All Might vs DCEU Superman

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#51 Posted by DarkPsychicLord_Prime (4202 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might teaches him the meaning of plus ultra

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#52 Posted by FlashingSabre (3873 posts) - - Show Bio

All-Might blitzes the crap out of him, and can probably one-shot.

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#53 Posted by Skyggen (24 posts) - - Show Bio

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: No, he can't one-shots someone who survived a nuclear bomb even while being weakened. And Supes defeated Zod who was as durable as him.

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#54 Posted by Skyggen (24 posts) - - Show Bio

@flashingsabre :Blitz? The Batman v Superman Guidebook indicates that the Supes reflexes are equally fast at their flying speed. And he flew from Canada to Africa in seconds, that's Massively Hypersonic+. All Might is supersonic. Supes survived a nuclear bomb while being weakened by Kryptonite, All Might can not one-shots him.

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#55 Posted by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark has Speed, Durability, HV and FB

vs All Mights Striking strength and character

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#56 Posted by FlashingSabre (3873 posts) - - Show Bio
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#57 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18883 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might

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#58 Posted by Shadowwaker (2495 posts) - - Show Bio
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#59 Posted by Skyggen (24 posts) - - Show Bio

@flashingsabre: What is non-canon? The guidebook is official. And Superman actually did all the feats I quoted. All Might can not hit stronger than a nuclear bomb. And he's just supersonic. Pre-Awakening Wonder-Woman casually has supersonic+ feats. Post-Awakening Wonder-Woman is much faster, and still less than Superman.

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#60 Edited by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

Clark will eventually kill All-Might. Neither side is one shotting but All Might doesn't have the means to kill, K.O. or put down clark. Eventually, Clark's punches, superiors speed, superior durability and flight will secure the victory.

@skyggen: Non-canon. Feats or nothing.

when did a guidebook become non-canon?

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#61 Posted by Toratorn (8261 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman one-shots.

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#63 Posted by Hey_Thatsmildlyadequate (1813 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#64 Posted by MessiahBlack9 (194 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes. All might had 1 minute left before he fought nomu, and we don't know his true peak.

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#66 Posted by Voice_of_Death (663 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes takes round 1, but all might does win round 2 simply assuming he is without a time limit and has a strength and speed increase.

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#69 Posted by ThunderPrince (7097 posts) - - Show Bio

All Might both rounds.

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#70 Posted by cromulor (2660 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman round 1. dunno round 2

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#71 Posted by HoboJenkins (209 posts) - - Show Bio

My money is on All-might, but I dont think it's a complete stomp.

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#72 Edited by Lan_Fan (18117 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a very close match in my opinion, the fanbase though, apparently these guys would stomp each other lol

  1. I'm going with Superman in the first round because I feel like Superman can eventually outlast AM.
  2. For the second round, gotta lean with All Might although everything is still a pure speculation.
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#73 Posted by LDM (5362 posts) - - Show Bio

AM stomps him, both as a character and in the power department

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#74 Posted by Jueix (2669 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#75 Posted by Firedude17 (1543 posts) - - Show Bio

Sups

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#76 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8758 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: All Might wins solidly, he's got better combat speed feats and far superior durability and striking power, as well as better endurance.

Round 2: A single Detroit Smash puts a hole in Supermans chest.

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#77 Posted by Gamer-Guy (3354 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman blitzes the hell out of him

All might is what speed wise? Mach 3? maybe 5

Superman is in the Mach 25+

All might isn't touching him and gets ripped apart

frozen and shattered

or just sliced in half with HV

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#78 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

There's no indication of peak All Might's power, barring an off-hand braggadocious comment that he made while feigning his state of well being after a taxing fight. In reality Superman is a lot faster than Toshinori, as he can make supersonic opponents appear frozen to him in comparison. But Clark's fighting style, inferior skill, and reactions make All Might tagging him at least once entirely plausible, so he gets one-shot.

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#80 Edited by Aquatic_Pianist (696 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower said:

There's no indication of peak All Might's power, barring an off-hand braggadocious comment that he made while feigning his state of well being after a taxing fight. In reality Superman is a lot faster than Toshinori, as he can make supersonic opponents appear frozen to him in comparison. But Clark's fighting style, inferior skill, and reactions make All Might tagging him at least once entirely plausible, so he gets one-shot.

Uhhh...Wonder Woman wasn’t moving supersonic at all after Superman threw her aside. She was completely subdued and had no control over her own movement. She was a rag doll. She might as well have been a regular human in that moment.

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#81 Posted by God_Above (227 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman

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#82 Posted by Sy8000 (36003 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman is too weak to do anything to him.

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#83 Posted by DrPepperMan (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

AM one shots

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#84 Posted by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: Does allmight hit harder than a nuke?

Yes. Also this question is pointless even if he didn't (he does) because a) Superman was severely harmed by the nuke and b) a nuke is a heat/energy attack while punches are blunt force.

Uhhh...Wonder Woman wasn’t moving supersonic at all after Superman threw her aside. She was completely subdued and had no control over her own movement. She was a rag doll. She might as well have been a regular human in that moment.

This makes no sense.

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#85 Edited by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: nukes carry a lot of force, just like punches. They both carry energy.

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#86 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: Superfluous technicalities from physics zealots don't discredit the proven concept of split durability when discussing fictional characters. Nukes and punches both carry energy and force, obviously, but nukes typically release energy through large quantities of intense heat, whereas punches are just blunt force trauma. So they share qualities, but they are not the same thing and shouldn't be treated as such.

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#87 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: I'm sure you will prove split durability for superman, correct?

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#88 Posted by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio
@jashugan said:

@higherpower: I'm sure you will prove split durability for superman, correct?

This sentence is mildly incoherent and has nothing to do with what I just said.

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#89 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: you said there's a proven concept of split durability among fictional characters henceforth you'll have no problem proving the split durability of superman

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#90 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: Split durability is primarily an argument. It's also a "concept" in the sense that arguing split durability is a debating mechanism that (on Comic Vine) can be used in regards to any character. I can not "prove the split durability of Superman" the way a debater proves that a character has a certain level of durability. But split durability applies to him simply because there's a difference between blunt force attacks, energy attacks, and piercing attacks—a fact that's already proven.

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#91 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio

@higherpower: and here's where you prove that split durability of "blunt force" attacks that would allow all might to "one shot" superman as you said given that a nuclear bomb doesn't only give off heat.

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#92 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: All Might one-shots Superman regardless of whether you believe in split durability or not. The DC of All Might's best punches are superior to any man made nuke and one of those already left Superman mummified.

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#94 Posted by jashugan (6652 posts) - - Show Bio
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#95 Edited by HigherPower (12407 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashugan: DC in this context stands for destructive capacity. It is the damage output or potency of an attack.

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#96 Posted by Gaoron (9916 posts) - - Show Bio

There is no such thing as split durability unless it's directly said to be within certain world of fiction. Punches usually do more damage than explosions and energy attacks because they are concentrated at one point while energy attacks are big aoe's. All Might still wins and Superman can't tank a nuke as shown in BvS, he was knocked out and needed to regen to survive.

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#97 Posted by Red_Ruby_Petal (8419 posts) - - Show Bio

since JL this isn't actually fair tbh.

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#98 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8758 posts) - - Show Bio

This wasn't ever truly fair, All Might would body him.

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#100 Posted by Gamer-Guy (3354 posts) - - Show Bio

superman is still too fast and durable