All Might (MHA) vs Drive Knight (OPM)

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BoS All Might vs Current Drive Knight
BoS All Might vs Current Drive Knight

Rules:

  • In-Character
  • Standard Gear
  • Random Encounter
  • Location: Abandoned NYC
  • No BFR
  • Win by KO or Death
  • Who Wins and Why?
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DK destroys lol

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#3 NWName  Online

DK can’t damage All Might by feats or scaling and he gets one shot when he gets hit. But DK can statue all day so he stomps when AM runs out of transformation time.

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@nwname: By scaling, Drive Knight statues and instantly obliterates All Might.

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@devoidruby: He only statues. He can’t do slightest damage to BoS AM.

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@nwname: Because BoS All Might has what feats against poison gas? Against piercing and slicing damage?

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@devoidruby: Oh i forgot about the poison gas. But piercing won’t do, the piercing feats of DK’s weapons are far below the pressures billion ton punches like AM’s would cause. Poison gas solos

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Drive Knight is too fast and versatile.

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@nwname said:

@devoidruby: He only statues. He can’t do slightest damage to BoS AM.

To be fair Nyan was destroying buildings with the air pressure of his slashes. Drive Knight's strikes were actually shaking the city block it looked like.

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#10 AlexTheBoss  Online

All Might is stronger, but Drive Knight is way more versatile, and pretty strong himself. If All Might was bloodlusted I might go with him, but in character I think Drive Knights battle intelligence probably gives him the win.

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Drive Knight takes the majority over All Might.

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#12 Magian  Online

Any feats for Drive Knight? I'm anime-only and he only didn't appear much there but he looked cool.

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@magian said:

Any feats for Drive Knight? I'm anime-only and he only didn't appear much there but he looked cool.

He got feats in the most recent chapter if you don't mind spoilers.

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#14  Edited By NWName  Online

@jashro44: Nyan was only cutting them which takes far less energy than crushing the entire structure. And AMs shockwaves level entire city blocks and not just individual buildings. And "shaking" doesn't mean much. Some large non nuclear explosions can shake kilometers.

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@nwname said:

@jashro44: Nyan was only cutting them which takes far less energy than crushing the entire structure. And "shaking" doesn't mean much. Some large non nuclear explosions can shake kilometers.

I've never been good at calcs or science in debates but is there really a huge difference between those feats? It seems to me like there effectively doing the same thing except Nyan is using claws and not using a solid punch. And do you think it takes nuke levels of force to hurt All Might?

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@jashro44 said:
@nwname said:

@jashro44: Nyan was only cutting them which takes far less energy than crushing the entire structure. And "shaking" doesn't mean much. Some large non nuclear explosions can shake kilometers.

I've never been good at calcs or science in debates but is there really a huge difference between those feats? It seems to me like there effectively doing the same thing except Nyan is using claws and not using a solid punch. And do you think it takes nuke levels of force to hurt All Might?

They are both good in their own way. Cleanly cutting concrete with just air pressure is a good attack againts low piercing durability foes at distance. But in the energy and total force behind them instantly crushing buildings with air pressure is better. You can think of it like cutting a bread loaf vs punching it hard enough to just blow it up (to be fair the difference in the concrete example is lower since concrete is less ductile).

It should take small nukes (few kt) to hurt him. It can be much lower tho if an extremely hard (enough to not bend or break) and sharp blade is used.

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@nwname:

They are both good in their own way. Cleanly cutting concrete with just air pressure is a good attack againts low piercing durability foes at distance. But in the energy and total force behind them instantly crushing buildings with air pressure is better. You can think of it like cutting a bread loaf vs punching it hard enough to just blow it up (to be fair the difference in the concrete example is lower since concrete is less ductile).

Eh, bread is soft and squishy. I agree All Might's feat has more force behind it but my impression would be the feats are in the same tier.

It should take small nukes (few kt) to hurt him. It can be much lower tho if an extremely hard (enough to not bend or break) and sharp blade is used.

Eh, we've seen Bakugo's explosions hurt All Might. A blast from Bakugo's gauntlets left all might coughing up blood. I think All Might is durable but he's been hurt by less than a nuke:

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#18 AGrape  Online

Drive Knight stomps if All Might is in character. He'll just poison and blitz from the start. You should make him bloodlusted.

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@agrape said:

Drive Knight stomps if All Might is in character. He'll just poison and blitz from the start. You should make him bloodlusted.

I don't think poison is a big deal. All Might could disperse it with his punches or by creating tornado.

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@jashro44: Thats why i noted concrete is not as dustile and the difference would be less.

I can't use imgur. Its banned for some reason. Can you post from another source?

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#23  Edited By AGrape  Online

@nwname said:
@jashro44 said:
@nwname said:

@jashro44: Nyan was only cutting them which takes far less energy than crushing the entire structure. And "shaking" doesn't mean much. Some large non nuclear explosions can shake kilometers.

I've never been good at calcs or science in debates but is there really a huge difference between those feats? It seems to me like there effectively doing the same thing except Nyan is using claws and not using a solid punch. And do you think it takes nuke levels of force to hurt All Might?

They are both good in their own way. Cleanly cutting concrete with just air pressure is a good attack againts low piercing durability foes at distance. But in the energy and total force behind them instantly crushing buildings with air pressure is better. You can think of it like cutting a bread loaf vs punching it hard enough to just blow it up (to be fair the difference in the concrete example is lower since concrete is less ductile).

It should take small nukes (few kt) to hurt him. It can be much lower tho if an extremely hard (enough to not bend or break) and sharp blade is used.

Human Flesh does not have good piercing durability and All Might lacks piercing feats. And how is placing force over a large area better? Also where are you getting this few kt nuke stuff from,, can you show calcs?

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@agrape said:
@nwname said:
@jashro44 said:
@nwname said:

@jashro44: Nyan was only cutting them which takes far less energy than crushing the entire structure. And "shaking" doesn't mean much. Some large non nuclear explosions can shake kilometers.

I've never been good at calcs or science in debates but is there really a huge difference between those feats? It seems to me like there effectively doing the same thing except Nyan is using claws and not using a solid punch. And do you think it takes nuke levels of force to hurt All Might?

They are both good in their own way. Cleanly cutting concrete with just air pressure is a good attack againts low piercing durability foes at distance. But in the energy and total force behind them instantly crushing buildings with air pressure is better. You can think of it like cutting a bread loaf vs punching it hard enough to just blow it up (to be fair the difference in the concrete example is lower since concrete is less ductile).

It should take small nukes (few kt) to hurt him. It can be much lower tho if an extremely hard (enough to not bend or break) and sharp blade is used.

Human Flesh does not have good piercing durability and All Might lacks piercing feats. And how is placing force over a large area better?Also where are you getting this few kt nuke stuff from,, can you show calcs?

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Because its a force several orders of magnitude greater with a comparably less surface area increase. Without getting into the airpressure feats All Might and Deku stopped a supersonic, roughly 40 meter steel cube that would weight half a million tons. So for low end supersonic speed of 350 m/s and 500 000 000 kg mass the energy is 30 625 GJ or 7.3 kt. Half of that is (since its a combined feat) 3.65 kt. All Mights punch stopped with around 2-3 meter deformation of the cube so the force should be 5.1 TN or 520 million tons. Just due to the immense force the pressure will be extremely high despite the large surface area.

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#25  Edited By Oreoghoul

@nwname said:

@jashro44: Thats why i noted concrete is not as dustile and the difference would be less.

I can't use imgur. Its banned for some reason. Can you post from another source?

Here’s the scans cropped

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#26  Edited By iusemyeje

AM gets burned alive, acid melts his eyes, inhales poison, punched around and cut with electricity quicker than he can react, and completely stomped. It's not even close to being close.

Drive Knight was hardly trying in his fight with Nyan and showed more versatility and speed than any character of MHA.

All Might will have absolutely no clue what's happening when he's fighting Drive Knight and he's not quick or elusive or smart enough to run away before he gets killed like Nyan was, who still couldn't escape Drive Knight.

Bloodlusted doesn't matter.

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@nwname said:

@jashro44: Thats why i noted concrete is not as dustile and the difference would be less.

I can't use imgur. Its banned for some reason. Can you post from another source?

Here’s the scans cropped

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Ok i take it back. Something like 0.1 kt explosion can hurt him but you need a few kt to put him down. Makes sense considering their combined hit was a special move which are stronger for some reason.

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@nwname said:

@jashro44: Thats why i noted concrete is not as dustile and the difference would be less.

I can't use imgur. Its banned for some reason. Can you post from another source?

Oreoghoul got them. I can upload them to discord if you want to see them uncropped. I can't upload them here because of the scan rule.

@jashro44: So biltz is his only option ?

Who Drive Knight or All Might?

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@jashro44: Do tell, I don't mind at all.

He beat a dragon level threat in the recent chapter and showed some versatility off.

https://imgur.com/a/1wArz3I

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@jashro44: Cropped ones were good enough, thanks.

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Most of S class heroes of OPM godstomp MHA each solo.

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Drive Knight. Superior speed and a lot more versatile. Acid, poison gas, missiles, heat, blades for piercing and cutting, and has the physical stats to keep up with AM too, at least in his Bishop form.

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@nwname: All Might yet again takes another L from a robot

Air pressure attacks in MHA are not PIERCING/CUTTING since anyone hit by them didnt suffer a single cut. Not to mention pressure is never equal because there are humans IRL who got pummeled by repeated blunt force attacks that didnt cut them but would easily get their skin pierced by a centipede bite. Does that mean the centipede can destroy huge blocks of concrete? no

I think you're also forgetting DK can keep up with Nyan who can casually deflect a mach 2.5/6 (probably faster) barret .50 cal bullet like its nothing

https://yzgeneration.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/One-Punch-Man-158-3.jpg

👆This reaction speed is abive anything in MHA and DK even managed to blitz Nyan whilst transforming without going serious