Alita (Imaginos 2.0)
VS
Son Goku (23rd Budokai)
In character
Winner by KO, Incapacitation or Death
Random encounter
Standard gear and abilities
Fight takes place at an unpopulated city setting at night
Who'd win? For what reasons?
Callouts:
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Penny for your thoughts on this battle? Since she is the more obscure character in this battle (Which will hopefully change when the movie BAL comes out. GO CHECK THE TRAILER), Here is Sightless's Alita vs Sirfizzwizz's Ventress CAV for Alita feats if anyone's interested in this battle.
Teen Goku should wreck.
Teen Goku should wreck.
Still Goku.
@king_saturn: 100 tonner.
@king_saturn: 100 tonner.
If that's the case, then Goku is in trouble here.
Any feats to back this though ?
@king_saturn: She's beaten 100 tonners. I don't remember Alita lifting something that weighs 100 tons though. She should be physically above this Goku and mixed with the fact that she should be as fast or even faster then the regeneration, vibrations and plasma, near limitless stamina due to worm-hole reactor and I'm leaning towards alita again.
She's most likely going to put a vibration in his head that will explode his brain or heart.
@king_saturn: She's beaten 100 tonners. I don't remember Alita lifting something that weighs 100 tons though. She should be physically above this Goku and mixed with the fact that she should be as fast or even faster then the regeneration, vibrations and plasma, near limitless stamina due to worm-hole reactor and I'm leaning towards alita again.
She's most likely going to put a vibration in his head that will explode his brain or heart.
How do you know that the people she beat was Class 100 Strength ? What feats did they have to show this ?
@king_saturn: Alita beat Toji who beat the 12 meter dick monster and the giant robot group
@kothoga: Neat she is K.O. for all of 1 sec and reforms with a stronger more powerful body.
@king_saturn: 100 tonner.
If that's the case, then Goku is in trouble here.
Any feats to back this though ?
Piccolo is at least 113 tons with Super powers and super speed.
@king_saturn: 100 tonner.
If that's the case, then Goku is in trouble here.
Any feats to back this though ?
Piccolo is at least 113 tons with Super powers and super speed.
I mean that's nice but Alita in a weaker body plays chicken with a hundred tonner.
These scans show case that even for a bit, Alita can match the robots electromagnetic field with her own. I won't argue that she isn't getting pushed back but this is more testament that if it came to a pure strength contest although she'd lose it wouldn't be entirely oneside(not to mention the use of plasma in such an instance....)
@king_saturn: 100 tonner.
If that's the case, then Goku is in trouble here.
Any feats to back this though ?
Piccolo is at least 113 tons with Super powers and super speed.
I mean that's nice but Alita in a weaker body plays chicken with a hundred tonner.
These scans show case that even for a bit, Alita can match the robots electromagnetic field with her own. I won't argue that she isn't getting pushed back but this is more testament that if it came to a pure strength contest although she'd lose it wouldn't be entirely oneside(not to mention the use of plasma in such an instance....)
None of these compare to Teen Goku who is above Roshi who blew up the Moon.
@thedeathstar: Yes..........Roshi............the one with the biggest outlier feat in all of Dragon Ball........
Though if I must do you want me to bring you to Jupiter and what she did there?
@thedeathstar: Yes..........Roshi............the one with the biggest outlier feat in all of Dragon Ball........
Won't really call it an outlier since Piccolo in Earlier Z blew up the moon casually. King Piccolo aka Daimo in Dragon Ball was playing with cities and was said to be able to destroy the entire Earth's surface.
Alita at her Strongest is billion times weaker and slower than Goku at his max.
Alita at her Strongest is billion times weaker and slower than Goku at his max.
Yes and? This isn't Z Goku, this isn't GT Goku, Nor is it Super Goku, this is Goke at the end of DB.
Alita at her Strongest is billion times weaker and slower than Goku at his max.
Yes and? This isn't Z Goku, this isn't GT Goku, Nor is it Super Goku, this is Goke at the end of DB.
Yea who is above a Casual City Buster when he was a Kid let alone his Teenage years where he was fighting with opponents above Kami.
This guy gets beat by Kid Goku who is nothing compared to Kami who does this to him.
Teen Goku surpassed everyone in Dragon Ball including Kami.
@thedeathstar: King Picollo is more powerful than Roshi but he can't and has never been shown to destroy a moon. Roshi's feat is an outlier than nearly everyone agrees with except for hardcore DB fans, such as yourself.
@thedeathstar: Yes..........Roshi............the one with the biggest outlier feat in all of Dragon Ball........
Though if I must do you want me to bring you to Jupiter and what she did there?
How is it an outlier when it took all of his strength, then, in early DBZ Piccolo does it casually? Piccolo wasn't massively higher in power than Roshi at the time.
@jashugan: Why does it matter, Alita doesn't have feats to compete with this Goku either way nor she has enough Destructive capabilities. Alita isn't the one above casual city busters or the one to have incredible combat skill that this guy holds in his bag
@thedeathstar: she does
How is it an outlier when it took all of his strength, then, in early DBZ Piccolo does it casually? Piccolo wasn't massively higher in power than Roshi at the time.
@thedeathstar: King Picollo is more powerful than Roshi but he can't and has never been shown to destroy a moon. Roshi's feat is an outlier than nearly everyone agrees with except for hardcore DB fans, such as yourself.
@jashugan: Please don't embarrass yourself even the majorities do not agree with you.
@thedeathstar: Yes that's nice but so what? City busting will kill Alita? Nah, her body will reform without a problem. Nice speed, wanna calc that?
Here's an actual quantifiable speed feat
In the first two scans we are noted with Zazies condition, due to an event on Mars, someone implanted 10s of thousands of waves into her skull. A single one of these waves would have been enough to kill her but the person in question had used that method in order to implant a message which the above scans don't provide.
Anyways, with the use of Alita's link to Melchizedek she links her mind with Authors(an Avatar of Melchizedek) to significantly amplify her speed and reaction time to cancel out the waves just before they were going to explode in Zazies skull. Each of these waves were moving at Mach 5 as shown in this scan. Goke has no speed feats that even come close to this in DB.
@thedeathstar: barely a majority and Alita has more combat skill than Goku anyway
@thedeathstar: Yes that's nice but so what? City busting will kill Alita? Nah, her body will reform without a problem. Nice speed, wanna calc that?
Here's an actual quantifiable speed feat
In the first two scans we are noted with Zazies condition, due to an event on Mars, someone implanted 10s of thousands of waves into her skull. A single one of these waves would have been enough to kill her but the person in question had used that method in order to implant a message which the above scans don't provide.
Anyways, with the use of Alita's link to Melchizedek she links her mind with Authors(an Avatar of Melchizedek) to significantly amplify her speed and reaction time to cancel out the waves just before they were going to explode in Zazies skull. Each of these waves were moving at Mach 5 as shown in this scan. Goke has no speed feats that even come close to this in DB.
Goku has no speed feat that comes close to what again? That's not even impressive if you compare it to Kid Goku let alone Teen Goku. Teen Goku is far above casual city busters do you understand what that means? Even Kid Goku blitzed people way above this.
This Tao Pai Pai got blitzed by Kid Goku who's combat speed is above Mach 20. Throws a pillar at massively supersonic speeds and jumps on it casually. Reacts to bullets casually by throwing shoes.
A damaged Kid Goku survives Nuke Level Attacks. This attack won't even tickle Teen Goku.
She doesn't even have a feat of surviving attacks of this caliber and all of this is way below Teen Goku.
@thedeathstar: Brings in a Mach 20 feat vs a Massively Hyper Sonic Feat, Goku would be a statue compared to that feat I posted of hers
All you seem to care about is the size and area of an attack. Which is nice when you face opponents that do that. But when you have such a character that doesn't go for the big flashy AOE but instead the internal defense bypassing destroy from the inside type like Alita does. Welp than that big AOE guy is going to die.
Oh also, bullet dodging, that's a laugh
@thedeathstar: barely a majority and Alita has more combat skill than Goku anyway
Please don't embarrass yourself further.
@thedeathstar: Is this supposed to be impressive? BAA is also a martial arts manga too and has better fights than this
@thedeathstar: Brings in a Mach 20 feat vs a Massively Hyper Sonic Feat, Goku would be a statue compared to that feat I posted of hers
All you seem to care about is the size and area of an attack. Which is nice when you face opponents that do that. But when you have such a character that doesn't go for the big flashy AOE but instead the internal defense bypassing destroy from the inside type like Alita does. Welp than that big AOE guy is going to die.
Didn't know dodging lightning was slower than Hypersonic. Learn something new everyday(sarcasm). And since when is Mach 5 faster than Mach 20?
@jashugan: Certainly far more impressive than your empty claims.
@limitlessedge: Lmao you don't even know what a Hypersonic speed is. It's in or above mach 5. Mach 20 is 4 times that and this was Mercenary Tao who is below Kid Goku who is massively slower than Kami who couldn't see Teen Goku. Bring better arguments next time. She doesn't even have combat feat near mach 20.
@limitlessedge: Mach 5 isn't enough. Tao could throw pillars and trees at multi-mach speeds and he couldn't even keep with end of DB tien, let alone Goku.
@bluekey: I don't think you actually get the feat I provided.
Each of the Waves bouncing around in Zazies skull were going Mach 5, & there were 10s of Thousands of them. All of Which Alita Canceled out in meer seconds.
@limitlessedge: Lmao you don't even know what a Hypersonic speed is. It's in or above mach 5. Mach 20 is 4 times that and this was Mercenary Tao who is below Kid Goku who is massively slower than Kami who couldn't see Teen Goku. Bring better arguments next time. She doesn't even have combat feat near mach 20.
I don't think you actually get the feat I provided.
Each of the Waves bouncing around in Zazies skull were going Mach 5, & there were 10s of Thousands of them. All of Which Alita Canceled out in meer seconds.
So why don't YOU come back with better arguments next time. ^_^
@limitlessedge: Don't overhype the feat, it says all at once. Dodging waves only at mach 5 at once doesn't mean much. She didn't dodge it in seconds by going "one by one". Goku was tanking and dodging Nuke level attacks when he was almost half dead near the End of DB. Each of uncountable wave particles were moving way above mach 20 if that's the logic you are using and Teen Goku dodges that.
@limitlessedge: Lmao you don't even know what a Hypersonic speed is. It's in or above mach 5. Mach 20 is 4 times that and this was Mercenary Tao who is below Kid Goku who is massively slower than Kami who couldn't see Teen Goku. Bring better arguments next time. She doesn't even have combat feat near mach 20.
I don't think you actually get the feat I provided.
Each of the Waves bouncing around in Zazies skull were going Mach 5, & there were 10s of Thousands of them. All of Which Alita Canceled out in meer seconds.
Going by Kid Goku dodging lightning, there would have to have been about 60,000 of those waves neutralized literally at the same instant to keep up with the speed Goku showed as a kid.
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