@XLR87T3 said:
Alan gets smacked around by Jay Garrick. Wally would destroy both of them in a fight.
All from Beatboks1
During Supertown Jay said this"A man with the ability to construct anything vs a guy who can run fast, you guess who won"(implying Jay lost)
@willpayton: except Wally has the ability to steal his kinetic enery. Not only freezing his body, but his mind as well. There's no version of Alan that wins against a morals off Wally. No auto shield that matters.. Wally can vibrate through them easily, he already has done so before, to Alan himself. This is irrelevant since it wouldn't come to that, Wally turns him into a historical landmark. Alan has no defense for that. He's the embodiment of the power or not, he needs his thoughts, which won't operate because the neurons (bundles of electrons that send messages to your body) will be immobilized once Wally steals the KE from said electrons. Or lends KE and give Alan a mental breakdown, causing the molecules in Alan to vibrate leading them to explode... He can do it all lightning fast... (Faster actually). A bloodlusted/morals off Wally West is practically a broken character, it'd take a bit more than Scott to worry him.
Dude if you want to debate about a character then learn about them. Alan doesn't have a "body". He is living magic, he manifests himself in his own minds image. No electrons or neurons to slow down man.
His whole being is nothing but pure magic. no motion or anything else to stop. Wally last time I checked can't do jack to magic energy ( which doesn't require motion)
Morals OFF Alan Soloed ALL DC earth including a flash WITH SPEED FORCE STEAL during blackest night. Christ the scans are up the page posted by Joeagentofhand1. Some of the heroes he soloed in those issues were Atlas , Atom Smasher , Batman , Blue Devil , Booster Gold , Captain Atom , Citizen Steel, Congorilla , Cyborg , Dick Grayson , Doctor Fate , Doctor Mid-Nite ,Donna Troy , Dr. Light (Hoshi) ,Felix Faust , Fire , Firehawk , Floronic Man , Frankenstein , Hourman , Ibis the Invincible (Khalifa) , Ice , Jade , Jay Garrick , Jeffrey Graves , Jesse Chambers , Kyle Rayner , Lightning , Mikaal Tomas , Mr. Miracle , Mr. Terrific , Naiad , Obsidian , Power Girl , Red Tornado , Samurai , Sebastian Faust , Shango , Stargirl , Supergirl , Teekl , Tomcat , Wildcat .
Wally cannot do any harm or damage to Alan unless he allows it. If Alan were blood lusted than he would no longer be Alan but the starheart entity itself ( an entity that is all chaos magic in the universe as gathered by the Guardians after Korna unleashed evil). Alan literally is what Alan believes himself to be. When he thinks of himself as young and vital that is what he is, when he "feels" old than he's that too. When he is injured he heasl if he wants to and only doesn't if that is what he wants. he laughed off the best blows of Supergirl and Powergirl while he was fighting dozens of other heroes in several places at once.
Finally there is a simply thing called Time manipulation. Alan has this ability to a far greater degree than Zoom. He once made life on a planet who's existence threatened Earth go by at an amazingly fast rate, so that he could destroy the planet and save earth without harming the lives on it.Thousands of years transpired around him in what was mere moments for him. Wally can't do jack to zoom because of his different rate of time and frankly because Alan can do this to a far greater degree he can be as much faster than Zoom as Zoom is to Wally. Wally is completely and utterly out of his league
During Underworld unleashed when Neron had his wife trapped in hell Alan went to get her. he first cut a swathe through hell destroying vast areas. He got beaten by Neron because he was distracted only by his wife's safety ( until that point he was kickin his proverbial). When he finally freed himself there was a dimensional rift that was destroying many universes. Alan used his power to seal it from many sides of the fissure
Please enlighten me to any time Wally has performed a multiversal level feat?? That's the field he's playing in here.
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