Akatsuki Vs Gotei 13 Captains Vs. Admirals

• Morals Off
• Rules: Manga Only
• Akatsuki/Gotei could turn into there final forms
• Admirals & Obito cant use intangibility
• No Gedo (Juubi) For akatsuki

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This is such a mismatch. Bleach level characters are a much higher level than any Naruto or One piece characters. Yammamoto can solo

Not really Genjutsu and kekkei genkai are a difficult match up here since they do match up to the bleach level

the admirals are on there level of bleach

Yamamoto does not solo here

I believe it comes down to Tobi and Aizen. lol Two hax no jutsu users. Including Yamaji is not fair for anyone here.

I have to agree with ghost_rider1. OP has a few characters that can contend but will inevitably fall due to lower OVERALL base speed and Bankais, and the akatsuki only has really has Toby. Before the fans come on, Itachi is doing nothing here. Hes not as fast as Naruto like his fans seem to think which means he's getting blitzed by nearly anyone. Gotei 13 takes a strong majority.

Wait, Aizen is there?! Wow what are you thinking, OP?! Gotei 13 + Aizen himself as himself in his plan as planned?! Mismatch.

You're wrong....no one from one piece or naruto have even the slightest chance against the the Gotei 13. There power, speed, and durability is just too much for them. The Akatsuki has no one that could even hurt them except tobi because of kamui. Genjutsu wont do much here either. Itachi will get blitzed before he can even think to react. Same thing with the One piece characters. And to make matters worse.....you put AIZEN on the team. He can blitz the naruto and one piece characters before they can even make a move....this is a complete mismatch in the gotei 13 favor

@ghost_rider1: ikr. lets end the debate here. Inb4 fans of both OP and Naruto come here in order to battle it out.

Akatsuki > Admirals > Gotei

Jewbito has dat firepower

lolno

bottom of food chain actually after nardo got that KCM powerup and OP got lightspeed/meteor slashing feat

that thing is not even in hst

@carter_esque: Jewbito with omnyoten can null his hougyoku, and his explosions are bigger

judging from distance travelled along with speed he is leagues faster than aizen who only traversed a plain

bleach lost its firepower ages ago

people claim luffy to be slow, even though he dodged lasers shot in tandem by reacting to them, and went out unscathed from the center of an aerial explosion while he is entrapped

people in bleach just poof into blotches in the air every now and then

Aizen.......solos.

Had to say this guys, you need High TP or other kind of hax to beat aizen's and team does not have any of the two.

HAHAHAHA people are saying juubito>aizen?! Woooow....lol. Bleach lost its firepower?? Um....yamamotto bankai? Invincible fox guy? Aizen? Instant kill bankai? Shunpo? Lmao...

lol my sentiments exactly.

@thelocust619

Juubito and aizen are two different types of god tiers.

Juubito is creation, and destruction. he can remake an entire world how he sees fit. Aizen cant really make anything, he is only destruction. in terms of god-tier abilities juubito>aizen

also yes the explosions are bigger. and then theres that whole tree of creation thing and the dna sword thing and really any other technique juubito has over aizen.

@pierpat you mean the TP that obito can use? kamui? which is also a BFR technique? meaning something that can oneshot anyone obito chooses?

other than that akatsuki is mainly trash/fodder for gotei 13... only ones that pose threats are madera juubito kabuto itachi and pein

kabuto summoning an nigh endless army of the undead vs yamamotos zanka no tachi... south i think it was. the one whre he summoned those skeleton things. that would be unique to see. kabuto himself isnt very powerfull however and will most likely fall easily

or maderas... well anything. hes also, albeit relativly low, god tier. BFR? how about BFR, battle field RESET. those asteroids he summons down would be too much to cut through for anyone other than Yammamoto and his bankai. even kenpachi cant cut something that huge. much less two of them. Oh did I forget to mention, Maderas final form would most definetly be:

Madera + Kyuubi Summoning + Perfect Susanoo armor + Rinnengan + edo tensei

rinnengan means no energy/elemental projection technique will work on Madera. meaning: Yammamotos fire, Soi Fongs explosion, Komamuras entire bankai itself, Aizens super ceros, Toshiros ice. ALL of it would be absorbed and nullified by Rinnengan.

Also this is a theory. Everything in soul society is made of reishi. even zanpaktos. if madera could break down the bonds between the molecules he could theoretically absorb all of soul society. ALL of it... like i said its a theory. a sound one however.

perfect susanoo means even if there was a technique strong enough to break through shiinra tenseis repulsion breaking through susanoo would be too much even for Kenpachi or whoever. it took Hashiramas single strongest continuous barrage of attacks, to break off susanoo armor and even then the defense was strong enough to leave Madera relativly undamaged. weakened, but rather ok. and EVEN IF bleach attacks are strong enough to do that to susanoo? EDO fricken TENSEI. Madera cannot die nor can he be permanently damaged.

and while I'm on that topic. final forms for alot of Akatsuki (Kakuzu, Deidera, Sasori, Itachi, Nagato) would be edo tensei forms. meaning bleach is rather screwed and One piece is so far boned by either universe it might as well forfeit. Konan and orrochimaru werent edo tenseid nor was hidan.

Hidans only quality was that he cannot die, and if he gets your blood or dna in his mouth(lol oral sex) then you die if he is "mortally wounded" other than that hidan is relativly simple to nullify. just bury him. Still with no intel allowed hidan might take one with him. his is a unique technique and all he needs is a single drop for the ritual to work. who knows? i mean hes the only one that doesnt need to be edo since hes actually immortal

Kakuzus only redeeming quality was that he was psuedo immortal and is still fodder, his techniques are strong sure and with edo it will take a while to beat him down n subdue him

deidera might pose a threat if he keeps blowing himself and everything else around him to dust with his final art technique. seeing as how there was only one energy based zanpakto and all. and the explody thing makes it hard to subdue him.

Sasori... why was he akatsuki again? oh right the country take over thing... meh. well i dunno now that i think about it chakra strings on a live human seem to work by latching onto the central nervous system paralyzing you entirely... if sasori were to use this on say kenpachi hed be rather unstoppable provided there are actually no feats in naruto of anyone breaking out of the puppet jutsu and regaining their movement... it might not be doable afterall and sasori might actually pose a threat

Konan has that hundred billion paper sea thing going for her. 10 whole minutes of nonstop explosions. thats alot. it was enough to force obito to sacrifice an eye for izanami. other than that she doesnt seem to pose much of a threat. she isnt edo afterall

Kisame. The tailed beast without a tail. Samehada cant just absorb komamuras bankai itself. i dont see the swords absorption on level with the rinnengan since one swipe only took 6 tails from the hachibi in 7 tail cloak. but thats still alot. itd most likely block quite a bit. even toshiros ice. and maybe yamamotos fire. if not then he could at least drown a few water prison was enough to hold kakashi afterall

orrochimaru, more... difficult than threatening. his tenacity and

itachi and nagato.

rinnengan and EMS... Tsukiyomi mind rape, susanoo troll defense, ameterasu burning even fire itself. rinnengan... anything troll. and izanami/izanagi reality hax.

Actually Im most curious about ameterasu vs zanka no tachi... Supernatural flames vs the Sun. a rather unique match? Tsukiyomi is a more powerfull illusion than even aizens zanpakto. but with aizen god-ified his powers are boosted so it might be an even match up there. anyone other than aizen is royally fucked. ofc

while nagato admited his "moon" wasn't as grand as the one the sage of the six paths made, it still was enough to contain a kyuubi up to 8 tails. pretty freaking strong regardless.

tl/dr: madera juubito itachi pein kabuto are the real threats, they solo most of gotei13 but it ends in a tossup between them and yammamoto komamura kenpachi unohana. im pretty sure they take bleach verse simply because of edo tensei tho. OPverse looses because its just the 3 of them and they kinda suck without intangibility

Oh, no. Juubito is most certainly above Aizen.

Which is the reason he was disallowed in this battle. You bleach fans need to actually read other mangas if you want to have input.

@strongarm: No Gedo (Juubi) For akatsuki

The Groto 13 take this

1. numbers they outnumber bot other sides

2.bleach charicters base speeds are>>>>>> everyone here

3. Aizen those Haxs

4. Yammamoto obliterates any non flame restating characters in a single swing

5. the Admirals are lacking their only advantage in this fight intangabilaty they get killed because they lack one of their primary skills

6. Genjutsu requires charkra none on the outer teams have it

7.pain and toby are the only threats here

Bleach wins here

give the admirals intangibility and some allies

and Give the naruto team Genjustsus ( state that they can work)

to make this a fair fight

@cjdavis103: I agree, the OP should've included all of the Admirals and Vice Admirals to make this even remotely fair.

1) Kabuto nor Madara are in this battle.

2) Rinnegan means no ninjutsu will work.

3) Itachi doesn't have an EMS.

@ghost_rider1: @strongarm: @pierpat: @thelocust619: @skelebones: @cjdavis103: @odinsonnn: @lowlaville:

So since the consensus is that this is another mismatch, should it be locked as well?

@carter_esque: unfair for OP yes, but honestly if you take away aizen and juubito this could be epic.

You could:

Take out juubito

Use modern Gotei 13 or old gotei 13 with no aizen

Add Garp, Issho and smoker to the OP team.

They still will be under, but they'll be able to fight.

Too many variables in there to be a mismatch. Despite popular belief, the admirals should fodderize the Akatsuki really easily (not everyone). Add in some people like Garp, Smoker and maybe Kuma to even it out. Take out Aizen and Obito lmao hax. Anyway, thats my opinion.

@lowlaville:

in this match up

grotto 13 takes this easily in a bad match up Admirals and akstky are balanced for the most part besides the Haxs

the OP needs to lower the grotto 13 and give someone to the admirals

Gotei 13 >= akatsuki > Admirals.

(with kabuto/full obito: akatsuki> gotei 13 > admirals)

I'm pretty sure though, with current feats coming up,

Gotei 13 > Akatsuki > Admirals.

That was my point.

@lowlaville:

I was agreeing with you

Oh lol nvm.

I'm not seeing this happen, they don't feel as strong as they once were.

koma pretty much became immortal for a while, hitsugaya's ice is far larger than it used to be, byakuya, renji got makeovers, kyoraku/ukitake might reveal their bankai, and kenpachi has a bankai.. I'd say their power ups will be massive.

they mad bro

@carter_esque said:

@ghost_rider1 said:

@officialrikudousennin said:

@ghost_rider1 said:

This is such a mismatch. Bleach level characters are a much higher level than any Naruto or One piece characters. Yammamoto can solo

Not really Genjutsu and kekkei genkai are a difficult match up here since they do match up to the bleach level

the admirals are on there level of bleach

Yamamoto does not solo here

You're wrong....no one from one piece or naruto have even the slightest chance against the the Gotei 13. There power, speed, and durability is just too much for them. The Akatsuki has no one that could even hurt them except tobi because of kamui. Genjutsu wont do much here either. Itachi will get blitzed before he can even think to react. Same thing with the One piece characters. And to make matters worse.....you put AIZEN on the team. He can blitz the naruto and one piece characters before they can even make a move....this is a complete mismatch in the gotei 13 favor

@god_spawn

@lowlaville:

not really, with current update bleach is the weakest

Naruto is at the top, with jewbito casually throwing mountainbusters left and right

@strongarm:

No Gedo (Juubi) For akatsuki

read the OP please

@cjdavis103:

The Groto 13 take this

Nope, they can get spammed by both sides

bullcrap, give me feats or calcs that say otherwise... not blotches on screen

same as sengoku and tobi - you only took out jewbito because he is murking your favorites

he gets blitzed and headshotted by kizaru

Nope, speed and stats superior

they still have other offensive moves, like konan's one billion explosive tags trick

deidara and his nano-bombs, none of the captains have raiton

Bleach does not win

@cjdavis103: still same results, says captains 'can' turn into final forms

does not say they start as final forms

@strongarm:

why this is a 3 way and unlike both of the outer teams they can fly,in theory they could flash step up and let the two outer teams duke it out

the faster captain can flash step ( nigh teleport) distances in excess of miles .

I did not take out the ten tails it was the freaking OP I would have keept him in as a counter to yammamoto

hahahahahah his "light speed" has already been busted he can travel at light speed alright after he takes time to set up roads to travel on and he travles there then he has to revert back to normal form. and frankly he trys to punch yamamoto he burns unless you want to say he punch the mother f&*%$g sun! and with the intange ability gone he is actually trying to punch him with his bare hands that is suicide at it's finniest

I am trying to make this a fair match bu giving the admirals back their powers without them they lack some of their base moveset

and each can be cut by byruka's 100 million blade banki before they go off

no but they have the ability to tank explosions with ease various attacks that can speed blits him before he can breakout his nanao bombs

under the condtions given by the OP Bleach dose win but this would be a better fight if the OP made some rule changes

this is not fanboyisum I agree that this rule set is bad and I would like to see a match up with each team at full strength

@cjdavis103:

Some admirals can fly, pain can fly... captains just airwalk with shunpo

not teleport, but bursts of speed [explained by yorouichi] and that would be travel speed

Not busted, his roads are light speed and he still retains invisibility. How do you 'burn' light, when yama's bankai fail to do that?. He can lase the old coot from afar. Too fast for the old man to react,

same thing as the capts can be splashed by boat sized fists of lava or caught off by summoned cages

nope, the c3 goes inside their cells and breaks them down inside out. Even aizen is weak to that, seen with gin's poison. No such defense

Nope

pain hax shinra tensei

@strongarm:

some not all, repulsion based and that burns up chakra fast, and they are used to figting their and all of them are their as abosed to near the ground

that can cover miles nearly instantly

he is not intangible this time remember. no seting them up takes time, and destructive feats the guy made semi God Aizen nervous as hell he can tank a small explosion like that with ease and I don't see anyone her coming close to tanking the heat of the mouter f&^*^& Sun

boat sized lava please kenpatch cuts that in half without looking it ( on a side note where dose that come from I thought he was lava man not metor man?) feats for the summoning cages I don't see them holding any of the captins exsepaly the ones who are miles above the action

speaking of gin what's stopping his banki Which is faster then anything else in the bleach Universe ( including Ichigo) and has a ten KM rang from killing him before he can even put in one hand sign?

Captains win.

This is a mismatch....i cant comprehend why some ppl disagree here

@officialrikudousennin: not that, but his crew is more hax

@cjdavis103:

same with flicker technique

he can attack before the old man reacts

you mean the battle with ichigo? right, compare attacks with featless buildings

with everything going on he will be dead before he fires off as shot, aokiji can just flash freeze anyone that is not yama

@strongarm: mean the body flicker technique? The one that very few ninja know? And takes up a lot of Chaka?

I've already said that he cannot attack at light speed if he could he would be the strongest admiral instead of being the weakest admiral. He has to set up paths before he can travel which someone Yamamoto's caliber can react to easily. Also is not in his character to speed blitz the old man as opposed to others who look more like a threat in fact he's not serious enough to speed blitz most of the time. And even if he try's to he cannot punch Yamamoto who's wearing the armor of the sun without being burnt to ashes

It's a building!!! Made up of soul resisting stone! Lava is not solid. Eyepatch off he can cut it in half easy. Or the Fox guy. can use his giant Banki to cut it in half or Gin can just cut it in half with his Banki Hell half of the captains can deal with that without looking!

InCase you forgot the captains also have A captain with complete control of anything ice. A stalemate until aokji is killed or yammamo uses his Banki and takes them both out of play

Bleach wins here

(sorry are any spelling errors I am on my phone right now)

Captains or Akatsuki

@cjdavis103: everybody in the akatsuki knows, and they have own variation. captains might as well run off into a clay clone substitution and get their body caught in a big explosion.

Yata no kagami, he can spam shots to incinerate opponents. He can attack shown with scratchman apoo and diez x drake. Lightspeed paths, which people of yamato's caliber would not know [they have no knowledge of each other]. Look at the bleach fights, they all start in bankai and they all act stupid [giving free shots/kenpachi, explaining your move/hirako |twice to aizen and bambietta| and fooling around every now and then.] Admirals go for the kill.

it does not burn light, kizaru is accurate enough to snipe him multiple times in the head from across the battlefield [shown when he destroyed mr.3 candle keys from one side of the island to another]

Evidence? the only mention of soul resistance is when yumichika asegawa is duelling with ginjou. Eyepatch off? cut and he gets splashed with death. He has no bankai showing. Komamura gets damaged if his bankai gets damaged, going big makes him easier target. Even the new bankai is weak, time limit and he transforms into a fox. Gin gets sniped by kizaru or other shinobi.

Hitsugaya is weak compared to Aokiji, he lost to an arrancar who is not even a captain. He gets flash frozen or stabbed with an ice sword.

bleach loses

I think the Admirals win here.

preach!

@strongarm:

I would post scans that say otherwise but my computer is down ATM so I am just going to have to use words

Read the OP before you comment on Yamamoto can't burn light intangibility is off so he can and will be burnt to ashes as for the sniping kizaru is The least mature of anybody here and as he has no prior knowledge me one good reason why he would speed blitz of all the other characters in this battle Yamamoto before he pulls out his Banki? And his destructive power is nowhere near the kind of damage Yamamoto can tank. And if he insists on attacking Yamamoto after he's used Banki he will die. Unless you can prove to me that he without his intangibility he can tank the sun!

It is my computer at the moment that it is mentioned that the inner city of soul society is made up of a soul resistant stone. Kenpatchy with his eyepatch off has cut giants that make OP giants look like toddlers ( Yammy fight)he doesn't need a ban Ki showing he is just that BA. So? Meteors are still cut in half and he is just one Capt. And that giant can take a whole lot of punishment he will go down in this fight. But not after doing a hell of a lot of damage. Gin was able to keep up with a full Banki Ichigo he can avoid being Snuped easy and he can do some easy sniping on his own. His sword has 10K in range The destructive power to tear apart half the town The speed to reach the end of his reach so fast that no one can see it extend or retract. And In theory he could solo anybody that is not intangible

One The Vasto lord he was fighting was number three of all of them The fact that he stalemated her is an extremely impressive feat. And it gives him the advantage of knowing how to fight someone with a similar power to him The Adm. has no such advantage they stalemate as they both have complete mastery of ice heck in theory you should be able to control the Adm.

Bleach wins here due to the set up by OP