@kingone: You do realize that Zeldris state’s that Meliodas was holding against Escanor in his One mode he was “toying with him” and when Escanor was in his ultimate one mode Meliodas was going to stop him with in base form so, even in the canon escanor state’s that he was beaten down by Meliodas many times so that escanor first win against Meliodas
Akainu vs Meliodas
@jbreezy said:
@boundless: First, you on chapter 328: The One: Ultimate Escanor said that and I quote “ I got clobbered by you SO MANY TIMES. I have the living daylights beaten out of me.” He saying that to Meliodas I can’t show the panel we’re he says that because I’m on my phone but he says that ok.
Dude don't take things out of context, in the very same panel where Escanor says that, he also says that was when he had no control of his power and was just a berserker:
@shirso said:
Doesn’t really matter on the damage release, it has to be soecifically justifie, just like the large country+ level attack that was needed to put down the dc.
???
Base estarossa heavily injured escanor at with 3 punches, that’s at least island level.
Why is injuring Escanor with 3 punches supposed to be island lvl? See this is the problem, you are not stating any feats or even arguments to back up your claims and then whining when people make fun of you.
sariel and tarmiel dimension isn’t “haved” but they created it, “Do YoU eVeN rEaD nNt?1?1”
And it doesn't relate to their attack potency at all, otherwise, again Brulee is Archangel level.
Now show the feats of Sariel and Tarmiel busting a large island
the evaluations you are giving are absolutely ridiculous regardless, a legit island level attack would destroy The whole headquarters area
No it wouldn't, because potency exists, and the attack was not directly aimed at the island with intention to destroy it.
who the fuck even opens vs battles wiki
Really? So please quantify Mael's cloud dispersal feat for me, go ahead, explain why it's impressive.
And you are the one who tagged everyone who disagreed and said AM Meliodas solos the Admirals or some shit, I even said this version of Mel beats Akainu. Now don't cry when you are getting called out and can't provide feats or even a shred of argument to defend your claims. If you are gonna step up and tag people, then waste time with your empty statements when they try to debate you, you are going to be ridiculed, as simple as that.
Now post the feats that I asked for, or don't bother replying.
Creating a Pocket dimension this big is island level and there’s really nothing to disprove, base estarossa is already island level scaling by hurting escanor that no sold a mountain multi mountain attack,
Brulee? Lmfaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoao. Her power is to bfr opponents in an already existing dimension. Also they killed estarossa, that has a power level greater than the one of escanor that again, no sold a mountian/multi mountain attack, that’s island/large island level.
Dispersing thick clouds over a whole country>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lifting some water
AM Meliodas was massively faster than base zeli and esta, completely humiliated them. His BoS Gil feat already put him as a high tier in OP in terms of speed, and since you are too dumb-, close minded to understand that Gil literally created a cloud, base galan is already mach 3600 by travelling 186 miles min approximately 0.2, the time to snap fingers, and 32k meliodas literally lolblitzed his ass, this meliodas is so goddamn faster that it isn’t even funny. He can negate logia, eat their soul, burn Them with fire that ignores durability and seal them. Now, you agree that this mel beats akainu? Congratulations, but unfo for you, this thread is a blatant bait to trigger y’all, DK mel already scales>>>>large island from bitchslapping mael, large island++ by cloud fea and being 200k in power level, king that is large island++ by fighting angry zel from 200 kms away while chatting with the other sins and one shotting 3 commandments mael + the other sins that where present. DK meliodas sighning Sage is better Than any feat displayed in one piece, it literally could kill 9/10 of the verse and current mel scales above that
did you really ask how base escanor is island level in durability? Lmao, a mountain/multi mountain attack scratched him.
People don't jump a tier because they no sold an attack of a particular level. And you are equating piercing resistance to blunt force. Mihawk's iceberg feat is leagues superior to Galand anyway and Jozu no sold that. Akainu low diffed Jozu and a bunch of other WB Commanders, and even current G4 Luffy is superior to Jozu, so yeah base Escanor is trash to even Commander tiers.
Creating a Pocket dimension this big is island level and there’s really nothing to disprove,
Wow seems like Animefreak was right after all, and Kaguya is at least star lvl in AP.
It doesn't prove they have island lvl AP, there's a reason creation feats are never much relevant in battles.
base estarossa is already island level scaling by hurting escanor that no sold a mountain multi mountain attack,
Stop
Brulee? Lmfaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoao. Her power is to bfr opponents in an already existing dimension.
That dimension is created by her DF power, so yeah, cry all you want but Brulee = Archangels coz mUH poCKeT diMensIonS
Dispersing thick clouds over a whole country>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lifting some water
Based on what? I mean I know you are not smart enough yourself to calculate Mael's feat so go ahead, cite the only source that has actually calculated it.
Anyway, deforming the ocean floor and causing tsunamis 100's of km away >>>>>>>> anything Mael ever did.
AM Meliodas was massively faster than base zeli and esta, completely humiliated them. His BoS Gil feat already put him as a high tier in OP in terms of speed,
It puts him at.............,Skypiea Luffy levels of speed. Wow.
and since you are too dumb-, close minded to understand that Gil literally created a cloud,
Nami also literally created a cloud, Enel is literally lightning, Kizaru is literally light.
base galan is already mach 3600 by travelling 186 miles min approximately 0.2, the time to snap fingers, and 32k meliodas literally lolblitzed his ass, this meliodas is so goddamn faster that it isn’t even funny.
Imagine arguing quad mach Galan in 2019.
He can negate logia, eat their soul, burn Them with fire that ignores durability and seal them.
He can do none of those if Akainu has already punched a hole through him.
Now, you agree that this mel beats akainu? Congratulations, but unfo for you, this thread is a blatant bait to trigger y’all,
It baited only one guy, and that's you, since you were the one who got all your panties in a bunch and started tagging everyone with "Meliodas solos the verse homie!!, I swear!!!" .
DK mel already scales>>>>large island from bitchslapping mael, large island++ by cloud fea and being 200k in power level, king that is large island++ by fighting angry zel from 200 kms away while chatting with the other sins and one shotting 3 commandments mael + the other sins that where present.
Large island lvl based on what? You hate VsBattles right, so explain the feat based on your own intelligence. This should be fun.
DK meliodas sighning Sage is better Than any feat displayed in one piece, it literally could kill 9/10 of the verse and current mel scales above that
Show me the crater of that explosion (hint: there's none). A large fireball means nothing.
because he doesn’t cause a tsunami, just an enormous splash. What you showed can’t be a tsunami, because at that eight it’d be dozens of times wider
This is quite possibly the dumbest, most desperate attempt at lowball I have ever seen. Yeah let's just ignore the entire basis of WB's powers, Sengoku's own words and all the hard numbers from real earthquake data, to insert my own headcanon just because the feat puts him above my favorite verse.
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@omnihater said:
@mevbi said:
@omnihater said:
@mevbi said:
@omnihater said:
@mevbi said:
Meliodas Danafor nuking would be put at multi-mountain+ ranges. This version of Mel, stated himself that he was weaker than when he was the leader of the 10C. That would imply to his Darkness too. We already saw Prime Mel's darkness matching Mael's light, so that should give you the idea that Mael passive light could reach the ranges of harming island+ level characters. By simple logic, Mael casual punch should operate on much higher level.
Now on the topic: Prime Meliodas and Elizabeth struggled with SD and the DK(old form), with both of the gods being super casual. The Meliodas we are using here is stated he surpassed even Prime Demon King. Akainu has no chance at all
That feat is island level.
That doesn't help the argument of Akainu beating Mel, in any way
akainu should be in the country level or small country level (for tying with a shirohige earthquake), akainu is island simply as collateral damage (when meliodas is island by a rage attack), Ace can make drum island stop snowing for a day just being on an island, and ace can also cover half of an island with entei, akainu foderrizes ace.
There isn't any country level character in One piece. How is Akainu island by collateral damage? If the Meliodas we are using here rages attacks, it would be many times above island lvl. And? Meliodas darkness was matching Mael's light, which was able to dispel clouds that covered a small country range.
Meliodas intercepted a bolt of lightning with a shockwave of punch. That puts him in high quad digits mach. This feat was accomplished in base. Does Akainu have any speed feats to be considered not a statue by Meliodas?
Akainu has the level to be a country level.
We are going to quote a real event, the tsunami of Japan released an energy equivalent to mountain level (which is a 1 gigaton), the recorded height of the waves of the tsunami of Japan varied between 8 to 9 meters, there is a direct relationship between the height of a tsunami and the energy and magnitude of an earthquake.
now the shirohige tsunamis is not 10 meters high, the shirohige tsunamis measure kilometers high, I repeat, the earthquake that caused shirohige to make these tsunami had to release energy to destroy a country.
Akainu just tied with shirohige quakes 2 times.
I don't remember at any time that Meliodas has fought or collided with Mael, could you bring the evidence?
Akainu reacts to Marco, Marco is able to intercept attacks at the speed of light from Kizaru.
OP top tiers are minimal relativists, to defend against someone like kizaru who can launch attacks at the speed of light.
"An upthrust of 6 to 8 metres (20 to 26 ft) along a 180 kilometres(110 mi) wide seabed at 60 kilometres" which was never implied to shirohige tsunamis and you can't scale both feats to each other nor you can scale fiction to real life.
And correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't all of this collateral damage done to the island after 10 days of fighting? How underwhelming, compared to current Meliodas.
Meliodas has two showings fighting Mael, first when he was the leader of the 10C
Gallery
And second when he was possessed by the Dk, but since i'm lazy i won't show you scans. It's on chapter 300.
Can you prove his lasers move at light speed? He was shown travelling lightspeed in short distance, but nothing else. If they were really lightspeed we wouldn't see them, just like what happened when he blinked right next to X Drake. Not only that, but fodders were able to see it too.
@omnihater said:
> plus @omnihater your waves arguments make less than 0 sense, because he doesn’t cause a tsunami, just an enormous splash. What you showed can’t be a tsunami, because at that eight it’d be dozens of times wider
What?
Based on what he make a "splash"?
You don't decide how wide the tsunami is.
which in fact were 2 tsunamis, not one.
There is no mathematical relationship between the width, and the magnitude of a tsunami, if you know it.
I would appreciate the evidence here, as I mathematically evidence the relationship between the height of a tsunami and the magnitude of the earthquake.
2 tsunamis? Bruh, a tsunami is a serie of waves, not define it as a tsunami because they are y’all.
@shirso said:
did you really ask how base escanor is island level in durability? Lmao, a mountain/multi mountain attack scratched him.
People don't jump a tier because they no sold an attack of a particular level. And you are equating piercing resistance to blunt force. Mihawk's iceberg feat is leagues superior to Galand anyway and Jozu no sold that. Akainu low diffed Jozu and a bunch of other WB Commanders, and even current G4 Luffy is superior to Jozu, so yeah base Escanor is trash to even Commander tiers.
Creating a Pocket dimension this big is island level and there’s really nothing to disprove,
It doesn't prove they have island lvl AP, there's a reason creation feats are never much relevant in battles.
base estarossa is already island level scaling by hurting escanor that no sold a mountain multi mountain attack,
Stop
Brulee? Lmfaoaoaoaoaoaoaoaoao. Her power is to bfr opponents in an already existing dimension.
That dimension is created by her DF power, so yeah, cry all you want but Brulee = Archangels coz mUH poCKeT diMensIonS
Dispersing thick clouds over a whole country>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>lifting some water
Based on what? I mean I know you are not smart enough yourself to calculate Mael's feat so go ahead, cite the only source that has actually calculated it.
Anyway, deforming the ocean floor and causing tsunamis 100's of km away >>>>>>>> anything Mael ever did.
AM Meliodas was massively faster than base zeli and esta, completely humiliated them. His BoS Gil feat already put him as a high tier in OP in terms of speed,
It puts him at.............,Skypiea Luffy levels of speed. Wow.
and since you are too dumb-, close minded to understand that Gil literally created a cloud,
Nami also literally created a cloud, Enel is literally lightning, Kizaru is literally light.
base galan is already mach 3600 by travelling 186 miles min approximately 0.2, the time to snap fingers, and 32k meliodas literally lolblitzed his ass, this meliodas is so goddamn faster that it isn’t even funny.
Imagine arguing quad mach Galan in 2019.
He can negate logia, eat their soul, burn Them with fire that ignores durability and seal them.
He can do none of those if Akainu has already punched a hole through him.
Now, you agree that this mel beats akainu? Congratulations, but unfo for you, this thread is a blatant bait to trigger y’all,
It baited only one guy, and that's you, since you were the one who got all your panties in a bunch and started tagging everyone with "Meliodas solos the verse homie!!, I swear!!!" .
DK mel already scales>>>>large island from bitchslapping mael, large island++ by cloud fea and being 200k in power level, king that is large island++ by fighting angry zel from 200 kms away while chatting with the other sins and one shotting 3 commandments mael + the other sins that where present.
Large island lvl based on what? You hate VsBattles right, so explain the feat based on your own intelligence. This should be fun.
DK meliodas sighning Sage is better Than any feat displayed in one piece, it literally could kill 9/10 of the verse and current mel scales above that
Show me the crater of that explosion (hint: there's none). A large fireball means nothing.
And then
This feat is objectlively island level, next
creating=busting, next
even if you cry this har, they still one shotted esta, that’s at least island level, next
Current luffy is mid quad mach, that’s galan speed. Now debunk how galan is mach 3600 with your outstandin logic
no one cares about creating clouds, a serious hit from kaido only went trough a small ass mountain, meliodas has been dogomg lighting since chapter 7. Kizaru can only travel small defined trajectories.
post a legit speed feat for akainu instead of sarcasm that put him above galan
only feat posted here was a really poor scaling from size of 2 waves and you crying and laughing hard instead of posting feats to support your bs. Can’t blame you tho, since the realmy aren’t much feats you can post, liké for example show me energy durability for op top tiers, i Think youd struggle to find em even on fanfiction.
mael feat is large island level, one shotting a 200k+ person is large island level++, nnt has reached mountain level since BoS Diane, chapter 1 meliodas displayed a feat that you need to go in OP 600ish chapter to find and now i dare you to debunk the escanor-estarossa scaling I posted above
merlin protected the sin in the PC for that attack, meaning that they’d have got hurt. It can be seen from the ocean 200ish kms away, above any feat in one piece
@shirso said:
because he doesn’t cause a tsunami, just an enormous splash. What you showed can’t be a tsunami, because at that eight it’d be dozens of times wider
This is quite possibly the dumbest, most desperate attempt at lowball I have ever seen. Yeah let's just ignore the entire basis of WB's powers, Sengoku's own words and all the hard numbers from real earthquake data, to insert my own headcanon just because the feat puts him above my favorite verse.
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@darkroseironavenger: Like this:
Ah you speak directly about the earthquake, I thought you were talking about the tsunami.
Using the Tsunami doesn't work, because you can only really scale to the vertical slip/amplitude of the Earthquake using it. Which in the case of Whitebeard's quakes, isn't consistent with the level of width and length it should have.
We really don't have earthquake information, so it can be more than you say.
On the contrary. We get to see the direct sizes of the earthquakes he creates multiple times. Even in the Tsunami imstance, this event, which is later explicitly called Whitebeard's Seaquake by Garp, allows us to draw conclusions regarding all of the major factors(amplitude, length and to a certain extent, wodth):
What I was saying is that you don't have a formula that makes clear the relationship between an earthquake and a tsunami, and the only one I found, I already put it.
The main issue being that your formula cannot take into account the other factors that go into an Earthquake besides its amplitude, and instead opts to use just that value and assume the others have values relative to it. In other words, it's not enough to draw a logical conclusion for Whitebeard's quakes, which don't adhere to those assumptions.
And the point of my argument, was the height of the tsunami, when earthquakes that are only mountain level reach a height of 10 meters, although they are longer and wider, that is because as the wave across the sea it gets bigger, but the initial mass lift (height) does not change much with respect to the energy released at the time of the rupture.
You mention a lot of other things that make the Tsunami calc even more qieationable here, but I'll just adress the main point. Yeah, Tsunami heights are (almost) exclusively dependent on the amplitude of the Earthquake, just like you say. That's exactly why scaling them backwards to the energy of the Earthquake only works in real life, where a certain increase in amplitude of the Earthquake is almost always corresponds with an increase in length and width and thus, overall magnitude. Whitebeard's quakes demonstratably don't follow these rules, their amplitudes are massively above the norm relative to their lengths and widths.
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