akainu vs aokiji vs kizaru vs fujitora

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Who takes it

Location: Marineford

Win by death/KO

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#2 juiceboks  Moderator

Borsalino due to his speed.

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Any of them can come up on top but my money is on akainu he's ruthless

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Fuji would have the hardest time not being a logia

I would say Kizaru > Akainu > Aokiji = Fujitora

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@arkbound said:

Fuji would have the hardest time not being a logia

I would say Kizaru > Akainu > Aokiji = Fujitora

This.

But Akainu vs Kizaru is very debatable. We have no durability feats for Kizaru while we know how tough is Akainu plus Akainu doesn't fu*k around lol!

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Logic says Akainu. Kizaru has always been wanked too much by the fan base.

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#7  Edited By Arkbound

@franky666: @shirso: Sure we know how Durable Akainu is but we also know how devastating Kizaru can be

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add in Speed and Kizaru will take the majority

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#9  Edited By Arkbound

@shirso: Strong World, Z, and Gold are canon iirc

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Chapter 0 and Character designs are confirmed, the storyline is unconfirmed

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But Oda wrote the entire character backstory for all three so the likely hood is they are canon

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@arkbound said:

@shirso: Strong World, Z, and Gold are canon iirc

Hmm, I still need to see more from the Admirals before I can say for sure. But by hierarchy Akainu should win because he is the Fleet Admiral.

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@shirso said:
@arkbound said:

@shirso: Strong World, Z, and Gold are canon iirc

Hmm, I still need to see more from the Admirals before I can say for sure. But by hierarchy Akainu should win because he is the Fleet Admiral.

Position doesnt equal power. Case and point Garp.

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I mean if we look at their powers as a whole, Fuji has the most OP power out of all of them. For this fight in this verse it would be Akainu>Fuji>Kizaru>Aokiji. Yes I rank Fuji>Kizaru.

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@arkbound: Garp is an anamoly, and being Fleet Admiral is no joke. Like old Garp and Sengoku were portrayed as equals and I think Akainu is probably stronger than current Sengoku. Also as of now there seems to be no reason for Kizaru to not try for Fleet Admiral (he is admittedly lazy but then so is Kuzan), so I guess Kizaru's strength is just shy of Fleet Admiral lvl.

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#15  Edited By Arkbound

@shirso: but thats not how it works. being fleet admiral isnt dependent solely on power. Politics, morales, the heavenly dragons ect all have a role to play. For example we have no Idea how strong Kong (the Commander and Chief) is. Without a feat or statement we dont automatically know he is stronger. It can be assumed but it isnt taken for granted.

same thing here

As to your second point. Aokoiji only fought Akainu for fleet admiral because he wanted anyone else but Akainu to have it. But Kizaru was too lazy/ not recommended by Sengoku. Not because he is somehow weaker. In fact didnt Sengoku recommend Aokoiji? the guy who lost? so no Sengoku didnt recommend fleet admiralty based on power (as evidence by Aokoiji) so we can assume the position itself isnt dependant on who is the strongest.

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@arkbound: True, but as of now I just can't buy Kizaru being as strong as Akainu. He has shown little Haki mastery for one, and Akainu seems far tougher and more ruthless. And of course his damage soak is just off the charts. In fact at the moment I would back Fujitora over Kizaru. He has an absurdly powerful DF to compensate for not being a logia, his Observation Haki is probably stronger than Rayleigh's, and he practically toyed with Luffy and casually held off Zoro and Sabo.

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Fuji is the most deadly here, his attacks can't be dodged and will remove the speed from his opponents, so they will likely take him out first(within 5 days). Kizaru is going to be extremely hard to hit and will likely use the attrition strat and take no damage for the first 5 days or so. Akainu vs Kuzan already happened so... I see it ending as kizaru vs akainu with kizaru winning(akainu will have taken much more damage before this point).

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@arkbound said:

@captain_redfists: interesting, explain Fuji > Kizaru

Gravity>Light A black hole has a strong enough gravity to pull in light. I'm saying the potential is there, but we will have to see how it turns out.

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@captain_redfists: Fuji has never demonstrated gravity on that scale. Even Sabo could escape him once he activated his logia and with a bit of effort. That said Fuji also was able to pin down the teleporting Law. so its up for debate

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#20  Edited By TheVivas

My money would be on a serious Kizaru coming out on top.

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Akainu is the most powerful.

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Doflamingo was afraid to fight Kuzan but not Fujitora, that makes Kuzan>Fujitora, then we all know that Akainu has beaten Kuzan, so Akainu>Kuzan>Fujitora.

Then Kizaru should be above them all but I don't feel that he is blitzing them.

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My money is on Kizaru or Akainu

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@arkbound: Well what about Akainu's and Aokiji's destruction as side effect of their fight? Punk Hazard has been fu*ked up lol. That's power!

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Doflamingo was afraid to fight Kuzan but not Fujitora, that makes Kuzan>Fujitora, then we all know that Akainu has beaten Kuzan, so Akainu>Kuzan>Fujitora.

Then Kizaru should be above them all but I don't feel that he is blitzing them.

Doflamingo wasn't scared, but i think he knew he would have lost that fight.

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#26  Edited By Erkan12

@franky666: They did that in 10 days long fight though.

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#27  Edited By Arkbound

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@franky666: They did that in 10 days long fight though.

dammit man you beat me too it! but yeah lol exactly, of course its hella impressive in canon but it isnt a great feat for this fight

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#29 juiceboks  Moderator

Still Borsalino.

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So it's basically Akainu vs Kirazu

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Kizaru

Akainu

Aokiji

Fuijitora

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I honestly don't understand why Kuzan is being brushed aside here

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#35  Edited By higherpower  Moderator

Akainu or Kizaru.

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@thevivas said:

My money would be on a serious Kizaru coming out on top.

this. I also think people underestimate Fuji while I think him bending light with his gravity would be a high feat, he hasn't shown that level of gravity control granted he casually held up the rubble of a destroyed kingdom while fighting Luffy I personally think he could handle Akainu strictly because of his DF

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Probably Kizaru.

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Sakazuki. I think Oda established Akainu as being the strongest Admiral the moment he had him defeat Aokiji and become Fleet Admiral. Borsalino's too carefree and his fighting style relies predominately on his devil fruit so someone like Fujitora who has OD Observation Haki would be able to counter him quite easily. In my mind it comes down to Akainu and Fujitora which Akainu wins high diff

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Akainu.

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Kizaru Yata mirror gives him the ability to dodge almost anything and blindside anyone especially when he uses his solar flare. Kicking at the speed of light plus firing those lasers while kicking at that speed is the most deadly power amongst the admirals. Kizaru is way stronger.

Akainu is too slow I don’t see how he can touch Kizaru

Aokiji is weak to Akainu

Fujitora gets beat by any of the other 3

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#41  Edited By Enemybird

Sakazuki is fleet Admiral for a reason.

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Kizaru

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#44  Edited By IceHeart_30
  1. Akainu/Aokiji (Their fight was off screen and they fought on par so I don`t think that they are superior to each other)
  2. Kizaru (Due to speed. Otherwise I could have voted for Issho)
  3. Fujitora
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#45  Edited By socajunkie  Moderator

Still Akainu and by feats Kizaru is in the fact the weakest Admiral- discounting Ryokugyo- he’s only the strongest via his implied power.

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Akainu gained fleet admiral for a reason, but at the same time Kizaru hasn't gone full out yet. We know Akainu is above Aokiji, and it's hard to speculate between the other 2 admirals against Aokiji or Akainu. My money goes on Akainu or Kizaru, Kizaru has a better devil fruit, but from what we've seen, Akainu has more experience and physical strength.

Although it is pretty hard to decide I think Kizaru would win, with Akainu wasting too much of his stamina because he is RUTHLESS, Fujitora and Aokiji trying to attack, but Kizaru dodges it all, so they would all take eachother out, and if Kizaru had to get involved his lasers would do enough damage. However, Fujitora has high observation haki so he could also dodge, but as I see it...

Kizaru >= Akainu > Fujitora >= Aokiji

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@kingzod:

Most likely because he lost to Akainu, so there's no way he could come 1st???

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@captain_redfists:

Well his devil fruit might be stronger, but Kizaru has trained his more and Fujitora cannot create black holes otherwise he would be 5x stronger than everybody in the galaxy combined. Doffy was not scared to fight Fujitora btw.

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#49 krisbishop  Moderator

Akainu > Aokiji > Kizaru >= Fujitora

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#50 Yray  Online

Akainu>=kizaru=aokiji=fujitora

People forget akainu has feats that suggest he has future sight at least on Katakuri's lvl pre time skip and he should be way above quadmach characters in speed he would probably be relativistic and with future sight he would easily keep up and match kizarus speed