Akainu and Aokiji v Fused Lilith

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Rules:

  • R1: Speed Equal
  • R2: Speed Unequal
  • Win by any means
  • Peak Manga versions
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Stalemate. They can’t kill fused Lilith and Lilith can’t hurt them as they will melt and freeze her magic

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lilith takes this

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#7  Edited By LimitBreaker1

@pics said:

they are faster, and their fire and ice is much more potent as they can even effect even concepts

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their fire and ice is much more potent as they can even effect even concepts

The whole "burning concepts" thing is vague in how I see it. While sure, concepts are burnt and frozen, this may only apply to magic-based abilities specifically, as the only concept freezing and burning them showed specifically worked on a spell-based attack, and given Asta someone who doesn't emit magic was completely unaffected by such. It's not a matter of Anti-Magic just being immune to all magic either as Mirror Magic has interacted with Anti-Magic in the past. I'd feel as if Aokiji and Akainu have more potent ice if not relative, to be honest, and I'd gladly make a case for them in that regards.

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#9  Edited By LimitBreaker1

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@limitbreaker1:

their fire and ice is much more potent as they can even effect even concepts

The whole "burning concepts" thing is vague in how I see it. While sure, concepts are burnt and frozen, this may only apply to magic-based abilities specifically, as the only concept freezing and burning them showed specifically worked on a spell-based attack, and given Asta someone who doesn't emit magic was completely unaffected by such. It's not a matter of Anti-Magic just being immune to all magic either as Mirror Magic has interacted with Anti-Magic in the past. I'd feel as if Aokiji and Akainu have more potent ice if not relative, to be honest, and I'd gladly make a case for them in that regards.

well sure but how can you scale aokiji's and akainu's potency to lillith?

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@pics said:

@limitbreaker1:

their fire and ice is much more potent as they can even effect even concepts

The whole "burning concepts" thing is vague in how I see it. While sure, concepts are burnt and frozen, this may only apply to magic-based abilities specifically, as the only concept freezing and burning them showed specifically worked on a spell-based attack, and given Asta someone who doesn't emit magic was completely unaffected by such. It's not a matter of Anti-Magic just being immune to all magic either as Mirror Magic has interacted with Anti-Magic in the past. I'd feel as if Aokiji and Akainu have more potent ice if not relative, to be honest, and I'd gladly make a case for them in that regards.

I think, I agree with this..?

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@limitbreaker1: Aokiji can freeze a Continent sized area of the ocean:

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It was implied to last a week, per his words. Aokiji's Ice would have to soak in the sun's heat per cubic meter, and the sun emits 1360 watts. Aokiji's Ice over a continent-sized area would be absorbing nukes level of energy every second, and that total energy can be anywhere between Large Island to Large Country, making his Ice that potent. Akainu even being capable of evaporating Aokiji's Ice and fighting against it for 10 days straight would make Aokiji's Ice and Akainu's magma worth teratons level of heat. Consistent with Ace being able to passively change the climate of an Island for a day, which yielded Island level results.

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@limitbreaker1: Aokiji can freeze a Continent sized area of the ocean:

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It was implied to last a week, per his words. Aokiji's Ice would have to soak in the sun's heat per cubic meter, and the sun emits 1360 watts. Aokiji's Ice over a continent-sized area would be absorbing nukes level of energy every second, and that total energy can be anywhere between Large Island to Large Country, making his Ice that potent. Akainu even being capable of evaporating Aokiji's Ice and fighting against it for 10 days straight would make Aokiji's Ice and Akainu's magma worth teratons level of heat. Consistent with Ace being able to passively change the climate of an Island for a day, which yielded Island level results.

ok i agree with aokiji's ice being that potent but wouldn't it not apply to akainu since he had en elemental advantage in the fight anyways

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@limitbreaker1: How does Akainu have the elemental advantage when Aokiji stalemated him for 10 days straight, as a matter of fact when is it ever implied Aokiji Ice gets countered by magma?

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@pics said:

@limitbreaker1: Aokiji can freeze a Continent sized area of the ocean:

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Continent size freezing lol, where does it say he freeze a continent? he says that the ice is frozen till the next Island and how do you decide the distance between this and another Island?

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Lilith wins this.

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#16  Edited By LimitBreaker1

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@limitbreaker1: How does Akainu have the elemental advantage when Aokiji stalemated him for 10 days straight, as a matter of fact when is it ever implied Aokiji Ice gets countered by magma?

oh nvm Iooked back and thought I remembered it stating that Aokiji was disadvantaged when fighting akainu

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@superprohero:

It's almost as if you didn't click the link, which outright states a Continent area was frozen:

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Even without this statement, you can still get the area he froze to a decent continent-sized area based on the horizon and the fact the guy needed to travel 2-3 islands, which are each split of a Continent sized sea of ocean.

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@pics said:

@limitbreaker1: How does Akainu have the elemental advantage when Aokiji stalemated him for 10 days straight, as a matter of fact when is it ever implied Aokiji Ice gets countered by magma?

oh nvm Iooked back and thought I remembered it stating that Aokiji was disadvantaged when fighting akainu

No it was never stated, this is all made up by fans just to downplay Akainu. you can just look at the Punk hazard it is half frozen and half on fire, if there devil fruits were not equal the result would have been different.

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@pics: i still say lilith wins bc the admirals have no way to put her down

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Lilith oneshots the op verse based off the overwhelming lvl of feats she has

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^lol