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#1 Edited by Gilateen (3707 posts) - - Show Bio

•TYBW Aizen

•In Character

•Edo Rinnegan Madara

•Chakra=Reiahsu

•No Knowledge/Prep

•Location: Akatsuki Hideout

•Akatsuki: Pain/Nagato, Obito, Itachi, Orochimaru, Kisame, Deidara, Sasori, Zetsu, Konan, Hidan, And Kakuzu.

•Starting Distance: 95ft

•Win by K.O or Death

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#3 Posted by EmperorMode (213 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen can actually wins this since Madara isn't an immortal yet, not with KS though. But if Madara pulls out his PS, aizen is a dead soul.

Akatsuki can cheer for madara on the sidelines, I guess.

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#6 Posted by ShisuiNoMaho (150 posts) - - Show Bio

Itachi alone can put a good fight against Aizen, since he can use Tsukoyomi and Aizen has no counter for Tsukoyomi. More importantly, Aizen also needs to fight against Madara who has both sharingan and rinenngan hax.

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#7 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17435 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen wins imo

Obito has intangibility, Nagato can be of some use due to his rinnegan, Itachi has izanami and the totska blade, Madara has his perfect susanoo, rinnegan, and wood style, and all that together could be a real threat. However if Aizen uses kyoka suigetsu effectively he should take it. Also the fact chakra and reiatsu were equalized means that most of their abilities won't even effect Aizen. So Aizen should take the majority here. Most of the Akatsuki would probably be crushed by being in Aizen's presence, and get vaporized if they directly touch him.

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#9 Edited by Undre (3229 posts) - - Show Bio

@gilateen: Aizen wreaks them in base aizen has superior stats to this madara in base fam

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#11 Posted by Shadow411 (875 posts) - - Show Bio

Tsukiyomi vs KS, whoever activates first.

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#12 Posted by MErulezall (3685 posts) - - Show Bio

@shadow411 said:

Tsukiyomi vs KS, whoever activates first.

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#13 Posted by Woodward (104 posts) - - Show Bio

Either Madara, Nagato or Obito can individually one-shot Aizen. Bleach isn’t on Naruto’s league.

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#14 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

@woodward said:

Either Madara, Nagato or Obito can individually one-shot Aizen. Bleach isn’t on Naruto’s league.

You're right... Bleach is a league above.

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#15 Posted by uchihaghost (836 posts) - - Show Bio

Edo madara soloed

- more versatile

- more hax (has immortality and illusion too plus more)

- more stamina due to edo perk

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#16 Posted by ZeromusEG (161 posts) - - Show Bio

Edo madara soloed

- more versatile

- more hax (has immortality and illusion too plus more)

- more stamina due to edo perk

Aizen + Espada vs Madara will be more fair fight.

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#17 Posted by LimitlessSigil (3932 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen wins this easily lul. Chair would solo aswell.

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#18 Posted by ovy7 (2912 posts) - - Show Bio

Muken Aizen? This isn't fair.

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#21 Edited by Earendill (1079 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara or Obito or Nagato solostomps. Spite.

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

If this is EMS Madara Aizen stomps.

If this is Juudara he solo stomps.

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#23 Posted by Gilateen (3707 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Edited by batmansolosall (278 posts) - - Show Bio

@shisuinomaho: What do you mean Aizen has no counter against Itachi Tsukiyomi? Aizen has Kyōka Suigetsu. Itachi and every member of the Akatsuki would immediately be placed under Aizen's perfect Hypnosis simply by looking at his sword's shikai. They wouldn't stand a chance. Btw, Aizen wouldn't even need to use his hyposis to beat the entire Akatsuki. Aizen's sheer intellect, power, speed, and spirit pressure alone would be overwhelming, not to mention Aizen's mastery of Kido. Aizen wins this fight low diff.

Edit. I'll also add, Genjutsu wouldn't work on Bleach characters. The simplest way to break Genjutsu is to have an outside chakra force disrupt it (i.e. a partner to break you out of Genjutsu). Same reason why Jinchuuriki's can break out of Genjutus is the same reason Shinigami can, Their sword is aseparate entity that can force reiatsu into them to break the Genjutsu.

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmansolosall: Aizen does win because this Madara isn't strong enough.

But Aizen has no counter for Itachi's high end Genjutsu.

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#27 Edited by batmansolosall (278 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:Aizen has two counters.

1. Kyōka Suigetsu: The Akatsuki will fight Aizen's sword the entire time while the REAL Aizen observes their techniques. Aizen is absolutely viscious. He could hit them with hypnosis, bind them in a poweful Kido, then wreck them..

2. Aizen's Zanpakto: Read my previous comment on this.

Actually there's third:

3. Hōgyoku: Another separate entity that makes Aizen Immortal.

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#28 Edited by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmansolosall:

1.) Not once has his own mental attacks countered something like Itachi's Genjutsu which can make you live entire life times in a pico second.

Both 2 and 3 won't work, they may work for basic Genjutsu which doesn't alter time but neither of these can react to a pico second.

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#29 Posted by Aristeaus (1028 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara in character is a weakness. Lots of these characters would be a little too complacent when dealing with someone with the hax and raw power as Aizen.

Where as Aizen in character is always going to use KS right off the bat. That is his default.

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#30 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

If you don’t recognize this as spite idk what to tell you.

They can‘t even scratch his chair.

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#31 Posted by batmansolosall (278 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage: Yeah, Itachis Tsukyomi is OP hax, I know. But what good will it do on a Aizen's Kyōka Suigetsu? @Aristeaus is right, that's Aizen's default move. Aizen will counter it easily.

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#32 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (3126 posts) - - Show Bio

Team takes it high diff.

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmansolosall: KS isn't a defense it's an offensive ability.

Ks does nothing to stop Tsu.

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#34 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

  • Itachi would fall under KS before Aizen falls under tsukuyomi. The starting distace, the fact it’s a 13 v 1 and Aizens condescending personality ensure he won’t look at Itachis eyes before Itachi looks at him.
  • The hogyoku would immediately counter Tsukuyomi.
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#35 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

Shairgan has feats of looking through stronger illusions

He doesn't need to look you in the eyes any part of Itachi's body will do

Hogyoku isn't countering anything, not does it have anyway to counter this, that's headcanon.

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#36 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

An illusion that couldn’t be countered by the Almighty won’t be countered by a sharingan.

Thats not the case for tsukuyomi where eye contact is necessary.

How so? It would immediately heal the damage and he would wish to for such an attack to not be able to harm him and the hogyoku would comply. (if he even suffers any damage.)

But yeah i don’t even see it really doing much harm to him in the first place. A few days of torture or a human lifetime spent in a “pico second” wouldn’t really be threatening to an immortal with Aizens mentality.

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#37 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

1.) The Almighty isn't a counter for everything lol this isn't proof.

2.) Yes it is the case, all Genjutsu is supposed to require eye contact but not for Itachi

3.) It doesn't do any damage. It removes the will to live.

4.) Baseless.

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#38 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

  1. They Almighty countered an attack that literally makes you powerless yet couldn’t counter KS which Yhwach was confident it can do.
  2. His stronger illusions have required Eye contact.
  3. It does physiological damage..
  4. You're telling me living a human lifetime in a short amount of time is going to affect an immortal who’s going to live forever?
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#39 Edited by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

1.) Those two powers are not the same and require two different resistances. Not compatible. Baseless.

2.) Even if we assume he has to look into his eyes your counter for this is bad, prove to me Aizen goes around avoiding eye contact, that's not condescending that's cowardly and beta male af, something Aizen isn't.

3.) Which Aizen has shown no ability to magically heal, he can Regen physical damage, mental damage is different there's nothing to actually heal.

4.) No I'm saying you're entire argument is baseless because it is. Itachi can make him live what ever hell he wants for an entire lifetime.

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#40 Edited by ourmanuel (11388 posts) - - Show Bio
@ovy7 said:

Muken Aizen? This isn't fair.

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#41 Edited by batmansolosall (278 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Yeah, Tetsukage really isn't making a sound argument. He doesn't understand that Itachi has to actually hit Aizen w/ Genjutsu....the problem is Itachi WON'T hit Aizen with it to begin with...

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#42 Edited by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@batmansolosall: Now you're backtracking.

First it won't work, now it's "he has to land it"

I never said Aizen lost in fact I stated that he wins. I'm just shutting down this ridiculous argument that Genjutsu won't work on Aizen.

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#43 Posted by Helloman (29755 posts) - - Show Bio

The team stomps.

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#44 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

  1. How is it baseless? It countered an ability that makes you powerless. There’s not even an actual way to resist that. Well actually Yhwach had a power to retrieve his power when it was reduced to half and it still worked on him.
  2. He’d sense their power and consider them ants like he did SS arc Ichigo. He‘d just crush them with his Reiatsu but if he was to look someone in the eyes it’d be their strongest which isn’t Itachi.
  3. It would cause him to stress or give him a slight fear which would trigger the Hogyoku.
  4. When he made Kakashi suffer it wasn’t as fast or for as long as he did with his gf so we can’t assume he can make him suffer for that long and living out a human lifespan won’t do anything to Aizen.
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#45 Edited by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

1.) It's baseless because he has no feats, you're reaching using the "Almighty" which also has no feats towards this kind of attack. Also KS stopped working on Yhwach.

2.) And Aizen looked right at Ichigo this doesn't help your case, and don't get me started on your cop out argument.

3.) And? It can't do anything about it, there's no damage to fix

4.) Kakashi was able to resist it with Sharigan just like Sasuke, Itachi even complimented Kakashi because of this.

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#47 Posted by MrViking (809 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: I think this madara woud get vaporized too , from Aizen presence . Since as Aizen stated , even Kyoraku , the captain commander , a (high) high tier character woud get vaporized if he come to close to him .

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#48 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@tetsukage:

  • Still not seeing how it’s baseless it worked on an attack that can nullify and make you amun’s to abilities what’s the sharingan going to do if an ability that can litteraly nullify and make you immune to powers couldn’t break it? And nah Aizen deactivated it.
  • Huh? In Ichigo’s case Aizen actually had a plan for him and heavily manipulated him. But everyone who was weak and who he wasn’t interested in got the fodder treatment without really any eye contact.
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Like i said if he’d look anyone directly in the eyes it’d be the strongest.

  • Psychological damage part 2.
  • In both cases he didn’t want to kill them so nah.

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#49 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4571 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Yeah, Tetsukage really isn't making a sound argument. He doesn't understand that Itachi has to actually hit Aizen w/ Genjutsu....the problem is Itachi WON'T hit Aizen with it to begin with...

Yeah, in his first post he said Aizen stomps idk if he really changed his mind.

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#50 Posted by deactivated-5c9e122a6bc32 (2290 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: like I said it's submissive to avoid eye contact is Aizen a coward or not?

Nothing else in your argument is worth addressing you're still reaching comparing KS to Ichibe.