Aizen vs Ichigo vs Kenpachi

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Rules

  • Neither can't go Bankai.
  • Aizen is Shinigami and can't evolve.
  • Kenpachi is post Unohana training.
  • Ichigo is Post Royal Guard training.
  • Fight takes place in Soul Society.
  • Knowledge they had about each other's abilities in the series.

So which of the currently most powerful "Shinigami" would win in a fight?

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Aizen kyuoka suiegetsu gg

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Kenpachi wrecks

The other guys would get destroyed easily.

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@biggest_d: yep that's it, he's got the stats to compete with them in a fight, but they can't counter his shikai.

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im not sure that this aizen can even cut this kenpachi?

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@zill0678 said:

im not sure that this aizen can even cut this kenpachi?

if he can cut down Yamamoto very casually i don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

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Aizen still has the hax to take it, although Kenpachi by now probably outranks him in physicals.

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Depends if Kenny's bankai does anything else.

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For now kenpachi is the one with the best feats.

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#14  Edited By linsanel_Doctor

Ichigo hasn't done anything too impressive yet.. which is kinda sad since he's the main character, and he received the upgrade a long time ago.

Kenpachi has no answer to Aizen's shikai.. and probably never will. Pretty sure Aizen would have no trouble cutting down Kenpachi.

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@zill0678 said:

im not sure that this aizen can even cut this kenpachi?

if he can cut down Yamamoto very casually i don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

maybe so but Aizen didnt cut down Yamamoto. yamamoto was outsmarted into injuring himself.

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Aizen stomps

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Once Ichigo's plot armor kicks in he will surpass everybody except maybe Aizen. Aizen could become the Bleach Vegeta.

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#18  Edited By PhantomRant

> Neither can't go Bankai lel

Anyway, the team wins. Ichigo is not affected by KS and has the feats/powerscaling to overwhelm and take down base Aizen. Throw in Zaraki who can one-shot Aizen and tank whatever he throws at him (so long as Zaraki is not under the influence of KS) and the match's over.

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#19  Edited By NinjaWarrior268

Kenpachi. He's shown great durability even to piercing and he can slice either of the other 2 guys in half like they are nothing

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#20  Edited By MiracleComeBack

Aizen wins. To avoid his shikai, they will need to close their eyes and when they do, he cuts them down

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I don't like bleach becasue of Aizen but, Aizen wins this.

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@phantomrant: It's not a team, it's a free for all.

Aizen wins, by the way.

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Ichigo still isn't under Kyoka Suigetsu, while Kenpachi is, I say Ichigo.

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> Neither can't go Bankai lel

Anyway, the team wins. Ichigo is not affected by KS and has the feats/powerscaling to overwhelm and take down base Aizen. Throw in Zaraki who can one-shot Aizen and tank whatever he throws at him (so long as Zaraki is not under the influence of KS) and the match's over.

not really, by reiatsu they are at the very least equal. and it isn't a team is a free for all.

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#25  Edited By Biggest_D
@zill0678 said:
@biggest_d said:
@zill0678 said:

im not sure that this aizen can even cut this kenpachi?

if he can cut down Yamamoto very casually i don't see why he wouldn't be able to.

maybe so but Aizen didnt cut down Yamamoto. yamamoto was outsmarted into injuring himself.

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true he didn't kill him, but he didn't even tried to actually kill him. if he can stab him in the gut what make you think he can stab him in the heart, or in the throat. Kenpachi knows that works pretty well.

Now, Aizen definitely is at least as strong as eye-patched Kenpachi. Why? Reiatsu that's why. It sounds a stupid answer but it is a fact. Aizen in terms of Reiatsu was unbeatable. Ukitake in the door reiatsu thing, had pretty much at the very elast 50% of all the reiatsu working in. Same Ukitake that got one-shot by Wonderwisse. Logic actually applies.

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Aizen wins. Kenpachi was taken down by a Quincy. That would never happen to Aizen unless its Juha Bach.

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#27  Edited By Biggest_D
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Aizen wins. Kenpachi was taken down by a Quincy. That would never happen to Aizen unless its Juha Bach.

first quincy give Yamamoto a run for his money and was before Kenpachi obtained his real power, second time he was nerfed, third time it was hax, and what about Ichigo?

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Aizen wins. Kenpachi was taken down by a Quincy. That would never happen to Aizen unless its Juha Bach.

That's some odd logic right there.

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@biggest_d: Ichigo is featless now so I don't know.

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@sineyaprime: I agree, lol. But could you picture Aizen loosing to a Quincy that isn't the boss? lol.

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@alextheboss: lol, fair enough. I'm still annoyed Yamamoto got owned so easily, though.

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@alextheboss: lol, fair enough. I'm still annoyed Yamamoto got owned so easily, though.

Yamamoto what makes him powerful is the Zanpakutou. He is pretty tough but he is pretty much owned by Ichigo, Aizen and Kenpachi in a fight that doesn't involve bankai.

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@biggest_d: Not sure about that, H2H he shattered an espada level guy and he outspeeded two senior captains, plus even Aizen couldn't get out of his shikai fire cage thing.

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@biggest_d: That's a pretty good feat, but Kenpachi cut a meteor in half which is a much better feat and Aizen took on almost all of the captains at once, something I can't see current Ichigo doing without bankai.

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Aizen wrecks, not even close

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#37  Edited By Biggest_D
@alextheboss said:

@biggest_d: That's a pretty good feat, but Kenpachi cut a meteor in half which is a much better feat and Aizen took on almost all of the captains at once, something I can't see current Ichigo doing without bankai.

so we can actually say Aizen is the boss on Bleach. Besides Yhwach.

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@biggest_d: Not sure about that, H2H he shattered an espada level guy and he outspeeded two senior captains, plus even Aizen couldn't get out of his shikai fire cage thing.

Not really, Yamamoto said they would would die. Even though Yamamoto actually survive the full force of it. I would say Aizen is probably tougher. It was also implied that Yamamoto feared the real power of Kenpachi and feared not being capable of stopping him.

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Kenpachi got this if he takes off his eye-patch. He was already cleaving Shinigamis in Bankai and being able to kill Captain lv Shinigami as a kid before even learning the name of his Zanpakutou. His strength is probably superior, his speed is probably comparable. He has more chances than anybody else here.

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Bump

*Now watch as those of the present, see how mismatched this thread was in Ichigo's favor.*

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@thebalance: I was wondering why this was such a mismatch, now I see its 2 years ago. Ichigo stomps both

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Either Kenny one shots

Or Ichigo blitzes

Or Kyoka Suigetsu gg

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Aizen wins. Kenpachi was taken down by a Quincy. That would never happen to Aizen unless its Juha Bach.

I change my mind. If this is regular soul reaper Aizen Ichigo easily wins by having better stats and not starting out under Aizen's kyoka suigetsu influence. Then Kenpachi and Ichigo have a good fight with each other, not sure who would win. I might give it to Kenpachi due to better feats, as Ichigo is more about power ups and Kenpachi is more about base stats, so without his bankai and hollow form I would say Kenpachi wins.

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@alextheboss: This is basically dangai ichigo. Cant imagine kenpachi catching him and even if he does ichigo in this form is multi mountain+ in durability

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@jatom22: Yhwach said Ichigo regained the power he had against Aizen, but dangai Ichigo was already in bankai, so his statement could either meant

unseen shikai dangai Ichigo= true shikai Ichigo<bankai danga Ichigo=true bankai Ichigo

or it could mean

dangai Ichigo=true shikai Ichigo

Also base Kenpachi was already transcended, so at least around chrysalis Aizen level, plus shikai gives him a 5-10x boos which could put him close to dangai range anyways.

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@alextheboss:

he regained the power he used to defeat aizen, he defeated aizen in bankai so I read it as

dangai = true shikai

shikai kenpachi would need to be multi mountain in shikai and be able to catch ichigo

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Without bankai involved, Kenny wins low-mid diff.

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@jatom22: you're right for the most part but your power levels are wack as hell. If dangai Ichigo is multi mountain then I'd be a wank to say Ulquiorra is multi block level. Might as well put Jidanbo at pebble level and fodder hollows electron level.

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#49  Edited By LeoTheGreatest

True VL Ichigo? Yeah he stomps.

Just his true Shikai at full power stunted everyone even in the presence of Gerard who way above Shikai Kenny at this point.

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#50  Edited By TheBalance

@jatom22: by feats of physical strength, he's multi mountain. He swung his sword hard and vaporized those crags. Aizen was impressed by "his" power because he was never the physical type and he truly didn't think his own swings had so much "force" (mass×acceleration) behind it but his power (reiatsu) was incredibly far beyond that. Gillians could vaporize those crags.

By feats of physical strength, Kenpachi is country level but the series had gone beyond that since HM arc. The dude swung his huge blade and created shockwaves that had enough range and force to obliterate a meteor, no one else in Bleach could ever pull off anything even close to that except maybe Gerard or Meninas. Overall power in Bleach has nothing to do with one's physical strength. How could you possibly follow up the series without thinking it's inconsistent as hell when you use those "feats" to decide one's power?

Ichigo sends Jidanbo flying using only subconscious reiatsu but can't lift the gate. Grimmjow creates shockwaves that travel for miles while base Ulquiorra who's very similar in power based on scaling, can fight in a building without destroying it (Grimmjow's aspect of death is destruction so he's probably second to Yammy in physical strength, probably even stronger). Jackie can send people flying for miles with her kicks but Tsukishima who's much stronger hasn't shown a single thing near that level. This is all a bunch of plot holes and inconsistencies and straight up bad writing if you combine reiatsu with physical strength. This is the true plague in the fandom