Aizen and Madara vs Big Mom and Kaido

• Butterfly Aizen Only
• EMS Madara(Hashirama Fight) Only
• Current OP Duo
• In Character but Serious
• Location: Onigashima
• No Knowledge/Prep
• No Soul Crush, KS, or Genjutsu
• No Kurama
• Aizen is Visible
• Canon Feats only
• Win By DEATH or K.O

VS

@gilateen: either madara or aizen solo, this would be a better match up if u put aizen sama on team 2.

Lol at Aizen being able to solo. Without KS he gets pasted. On the other hand, Madara does solo. You can put Aizen with the Yonko and Madara would still solo low diff.

Madara just swings at his direction and they get cleaved along with the landscapes.

@citgo:

Nah, this is a good match. People would just come in and say “KS GG” or “Genjutsu GG” if I didn’t restrict them.

@gilateen: fair enough.

Aizen solostomps

Without those cheap shot haxes, Yonko duo stomps.

KS/Genjutsu GG

@hstgoddess: KS and Genjutsu are restricted here

@gilateen: they say "screw you" to your restrictions and mind fuck them anyway. ?

Yonko

Azien has a slap fest mismatch

Team 1 stomps.

They stomp kyuubi/susanoo? Definitely not

Team 1 stomps

@son_of_mori-jin: @keiser994: Restricted Kuruma

Susano kanzentai / Izo Susanoo was miles away from the mountains they destroyed .... stop being retarded don't compare One piece to Susanoo Madara!

@nausea: You really hate OP huh?

Madara and Aizen win until the yonko get better feats, and even if they were stronger they don't have a way to get past Aizen's immortality, unless Big Mom can scare him and take his soul.

Mihawk did this casually, so it's not like the OP verse is that weak.

@woodward:

Lol at Aizen being able to solo. Without KS he gets pasted.

How do they get past his immortality?

On the other hand, Madara does solo. You can put Aizen with the Yonko and Madara would still solo low diff.

Definitely not. It would at least be high difficulty with big Mom and Kaido both smashing on his susanoo from different angles, while Aizen could arguably teleport inside it and attack Madara directly.

Madara just swings at his direction and they get cleaved along with the landscapes.

This should work on the Yonko for now, but Aizen is immortal so cutting him in half wouldn't end him. It would have to be comboed with a seal.

I don't hate it, I just know what I'm talking about, you who are defending one piece don't know what they say. one piece went the same way as dragon Ball, a verse that is full of fanboys who are just jokes.

Aizen Solo

@nausea: Knowing what your talking about? Lol, not at all. You can’t just say it’s weak when they have good feats themselves. Naruto and Bleach also have fanboys so your point?

I’m not even debating on who wins Lol.

@alextheboss: Immortality is the only reason why Aizen is relevant.

I'm gonna need to see feats for those amazing smashing feats to suggest they can put a dent in PS, when it took the Shinsuusenju which did this out of raw strength:

@woodward:

Immortality is the only reason why Aizen is relevant.

And his arguably superior physicals and attack potency.

I'm gonna need to see feats for those amazing smashing feats to suggest they can put a dent in PS, when it took the Shinsuusenju which did this out of raw strength:

iirc that destroyed a good portion of Madara's perfect susanoo. Also potency needs to be taken into consideration, as Aizen is small, so his power is condensed into a tiny sword. It's the same principle as how I can push you really hard with my hand and do no damage, but poke you lightly with a needle and go deep into your skin.

As for feats, base Aizen could stab through Yamamoto who used his body to contain a multi large town/small city level attack, could destroy large portions of the ground without his sword hitting it directly, and create a deep crater with his fragor.

If we use scaling, we have VL Ichigo catching lanza in his hand, and butterfly Aizen should be a good deal stronger than VL Ichigo. I could see Hashirama's attack that you posted being around a dozen times bigger than lanza, but Aizen could easily be scaled to be a dozen times stronger than Ulquiorra.

Even if Aizen couldn't break it, it would be extremely hard for Madara to tag him with perfect susanoo due to Aizen's small size and teleportation. Big mom and Kaido can both fly so they could be hard to tag as well. Madara doesn't have infinite stamina so they just have to outlast his perfect susanoo. I could see why you would think Madara can solo, but I'm just saying it wouldn't be easy.

This isn’t even remotely true

Alive Madara during his fight with Hashirama couldn’t beat Kaido

PS is his only way of even being a threat to anyone here and I’m pretty sure Kaido can break it

Aizen doesn't solo anything. Either of the OP team would give him a hard time. Team 1 wins. Fragor spam+PS should do the trick.

@alextheboss: Shinsuusenju's punches are as potent as you well, since they are a punch as well.

Damage in Bleach is dictated by Reitasu amount and not by the level of attack, since that's the law Kubo put in his verse, which even has its contradictory. A lot of the things you said, like Aizen stabbing Yamamoto is because of that. Aizen's slashing feats are only in the city-block range.

Besides all that, the mere fact he was amazed by him cutting a small plateau (turns out Ichigo was the one who did) invalidates all of the scaling your premise is built on. Even a blunt force island-level like Hirudora couldn't destroy a V3 Susanoo, and PS is magnitudes above V3.

A regular Biju Dama from normal Tailed Beasts >>> Fragor. 50% Kurama's Biju Dama > combined Biju Dama of 5 Tailed Beasts. Madara with V4 Susanoo tanked 100% Kurama's Biju Dama without damage. Fragor isn't putting a dent on PS.

You do know Madara doesn't have to directly hit Aizen and Yonkos, right? The shockwaves alone would oneshot them passively along with the landscape.

You might actually just be really ignorant, a troll or very biased.

@woodward: dwarfing hill size moutians is nigh impressive

Either on team 1 solo the verse.

Aizen still solostomps

Madara or Aizen either can solos.

@woodward:

Shinsuusenju's punches are as potent as you well, since they are a punch as well.

What?

Damage in Bleach is dictated by Reitasu amount and not by the level of attack, since that's the law Kubo put in his verse, which even has its contradictory. A lot of the things you said, like Aizen stabbing Yamamoto is because of that. Aizen's slashing feats are only in the city-block range.

A character's reiatsu needs to be high enough to go through the opponent's passive reiatsu shield, but that doesn't mean it doesn't increase their physical strength, because it does. Even base Aizen clowned Komamura's bankai which had multi city block level striking power, and he blocked bankai Ichigo's sword with finger, and shikai Ichigo and Kenpahci's clash was city block level.

Besides all that, the mere fact he was amazed by him cutting a small plateau (turns out Ichigo was the one who did) invalidates all of the scaling your premise is built on.

The plateau was vaporized by the wind pressure of their swing. That is impressive. Show me a Naruto character, while human sized, doing that.

Even a blunt force island-level like Hirudora couldn't destroy a V3 Susanoo, and PS is magnitudes above V3.

Hirudora isn't island level imo. It was a big wind gust and every other time it was used the shockwave comparable to mountains.

A regular Biju Dama from normal Tailed Beasts >>> Fragor.

I disagree. The regular Biju dama were mountain sized, and while the fragor was thinner, it was far taller, and drilled hole deep into the ground, while beast bombs only left a shallow crater. At best regular tailed beast bombs are a bit stronger, and Aizen's fragor was casual and he can throw six at once.

Madara with V4 Susanoo tanked 100% Kurama's Biju Dama without damage.

When was this? Pretty sure 100% Kurama is in perfect susanoo's tier. Hashirama even said 50% BSM Naruto was almost as strong as he was, and he was above EMS Madara. So BSM Naruto should be around EMS Madara level in power.

You do know Madara doesn't have to directly hit Aizen and Yonkos, right? The shockwaves alone would oneshot them passively along with the landscape.

The shockwave would have to hit them directly at the perfect angle to do any real damage. If not they would just be blown away rather than being cut in half.

Leave it to Woodward to turn this into Madara vs Aizen/Big Mom/Kaido. Remember this is the guy that thinks Pain solo's One Piece, you'd have more chance of convincing a brick wall to change it's opinion than Woodward.

Madara solos, team 1 stomps

Madara solos team 2 then makes Aizen his cook.

All of this is what Aizen lets Madara see under KS.

Either of them Madara or Aizen would be able to defeat them.

I like the conditions because Madara just looks in their eyes and gets 2 new "Kyuubis"

Either Madara or Aizen completely god stomp.

I change my opinion: Aizen solos with immortality, madara is strong enough to fight the yonkos with susano'o, but kaido and big mom should have phisycals to break it

Team 1 mid diff

Aizen still solostomps