Aizen and Ichigo Vs Base CF Garou

Ichigo dies instantly but Aizen is immortal. I guess team eventually since BFR isn’t an option and Garou can’t put him down.

Aizen puts him under KS and destroys his soul. In other words he solos.

Garou low diff

Why is BFR not an option ?

@huntercuistot: Aizen can traverse dimensions. He can just open a portal and return to HM.

GRB gg. Stop putting HST characters against OPM god tiers it's not even close anymore.

@heykorby: Alright, shame. Otherwise he would've gotten this treatment :

Guess Aizen eventually solos.

Despite the AP advantage or whatever, Aizen can do whatever the hell he wants because of KS, and he cant be killed, so he wins eventually.

Either one solos.

LOL plz lawd no. CF Garou solo the HST.

Winged Garou solos.

aizen causes the most trouble ichigo gets one shotted even in his true bankia state.

and no strawberry nor aizen sama is getting no higher than planet lvl

Aizen solos. If you can't lose then you win.

Ichigo dies horribly, but Aizen is the true trouble here for Garou.

I see no possibility for Garou to kill Aizen but the other way around as well.

I guess Aizen has to keep the fight so long that Garou dies from age.

Garou wins in speed and AP, Aizen wins just because of Immortality.

@mcu-defender333: @deathu101: garuo large planet at best they stomp

Can't Aizen be K.O.'d?

Either of them one shots the fodder.

Do they tho.

@undre: Large Planet level in base with stat copying Hax. Aizen still wins since he cant be put down, Ichigo on the other hand dies.

He's probably atleast star level in base tbh.

Aizen and Ichigo slam

Yes. And no, Garou isn't star level either.

You're right, he's far above that with Saitama mode. He's only star level in base because he can replicate the same energy as supernovas and gamma rays. :)

@takenstew22

You're right, he's far above that with Saitama mode.

Not really unless you take the void in the night sky out of context.

He's only star level in base because he can replicate the same energy as supernovas and gamma rays. :)

Garou's main ability is to absorb and copy literally stated in the manga. Due to the fact that he gained knowledge of the flow of all energy and the behavior of the forces of the universe he is capable of copying a GRB but what gives the equivalence that he is also capable of copying the Exact power coming from phenomenon?

@rogue_prince:

but what gives the equivalence that he is also capable of copying theExact powercoming from phenomenon?

Because he did so with Saitamas stats? And even if you don't want to consider the GRB to be Star Level its at the very least Large Planet level due to the black hole it made.

@heykorby

Because he did so with Saitamas stats?

Not really. That would just mean that his Shakkei technique AKA "Modes" cant be compared to his ability to copy and reproduce the fundamental forces of the universe. And they are literally portrayed as to different abilities.

And even if you don't want to consider the GRB to be Star Level its at the very leastLarge Planet level due to the black hole it made.

That's literally where i have Garou's GRB tho.

That has all the context you need.

Not really.

Literally stated why

It was never stated that Garou can copy the exact power from the phenomenon.

Why is Bleach allowed to be universal but Garou's not allowed to be star level?

So Bleach and OPM have the same set of scaling now? cuz im not getting this comparisson.

@rogue_prince:

Not really. That would just mean that his Shakkei technique AKA "Modes" cant be compared to his ability to copy and reproduce the fundamental forces of the universe. And they are literally portrayed as to different abilities.

How would they exactly be different abilities? Its the same concept. He "Knows" of the Phenomena/Energy and is able to perfectly replicate it just like he can with stats stupidly above his paygrade. AP and DC exist so what's wrong with assuming the GRB is just as powerful as a real one? The argument of it would "destroy" the planet if one was even released nearby is practically incorrect. The power of a GRB resides in the jets that are produced from the Black hole which are basically the real life equivalent of a focused energy attack. If the beams pass by something its not going to effect it.

Garou stomps

Sword slashes from stronger tiers do damage

Garou is a stronger tier and his physicals scale to his AP meaning few hits team are goners

Also Aizen KS doesn’t physically restrain Garou he can just use a GRB for wide range attack to smoke Aizen when he realizes he is under a illusion

Aizen abuses Garou

also Lol at people thinking Garou is stronger or that he can resist KS

KS worked on someone that could see and manipulate infinite timelines simultaneously

@heykorby

How would they exactly be different abilities? Its the same concept.He "Knows" of the Phenomena/Energy and is able to perfectly replicate it just like he can with stats stupidly above his paygrade.

How Garou is capable of manipulating the fundamental forces:

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How Garou was capable of Copying Saitama's stats:

Despite being similar with all the copying bs they are different.. Just by simply reading both descriptions you should be able to understand that my guy. Thus both cannot be compared with one another, so this argument of trying to back up star level and above GRB through Garou using Shakkei doesn't hold up. Two different abilities.

AP and DC exist so what's wrong with assuming the GRB is just as powerful as a real one? The argument of it would "destroy" the planet if one was even released nearby is practically incorrect.

I know that AP and DC exists but DC comes before the AP imo. You need DC feats first for then later to establish one's AP. The GRB cant be as strong as a real one because again there is no confirmation of Garou being capable of copying the same amount of power of the phenomenons he recreates. Garou's Fundamental forces manipulation has shown weakness and defects like him not being able to pull off the time manipulation based technique.

The power of a GRB resides in the jets that are produced from the Black hole which are basically the real life equivalent of a focused energy attack. If the beams pass by something its not going to effect it.

Yeah but despite being focused energy attacks they still expand massive distances and are viewd as the biggest luminous phenomenon other than the big bang. These are qualities or characteristics that Garou's GRB didn't show. Garou GRB being solar system level doesnt really make sense and contradicts the later feats showed in the fight between the two.

@rogue_prince: Gamma Ray Beams expand as they travel through light years of space thats why they can affect entire Solar Systems from that far away

@rogue_prince said:

@heykorby

How would they exactly be different abilities? Its the same concept.He "Knows" of the Phenomena/Energy and is able to perfectly replicate it just like he can with stats stupidly above his paygrade.

How Garou is capable of manipulating the fundamental forces:

Gallery

How Garou was capable of Copying Saitama's stats:

Despite being similar with all the copying bs they are different.. Just by simply reading both descriptions you should be able to understand that my guy. Thus both cannot be compared with one another, so this argument of trying to back up star level and above GRB through Garou using Shakkei doesn't hold up. Two different abilities.

AP and DC exist so what's wrong with assuming the GRB is just as powerful as a real one? The argument of it would "destroy" the planet if one was even released nearby is practically incorrect.

I know that AP and DC exists but DC comes before the AP imo. You need DC feats first for then later to establish one's AP. The GRB cant be as strong as a real one because again there is no confirmation of Garou being capable of copying the same amount of power of the phenomenons he recreates. Garou's Fundamental forces manipulation has shown weakness and defects like him not being able to pull off the time manipulation based technique.

The power of a GRB resides in the jets that are produced from the Black hole which are basically the real life equivalent of a focused energy attack. If the beams pass by something its not going to effect it.

A GRB beam coming from insane distance of 3000 LY away would still be able to affect earth from what i know. So how would the beams while going through something not afect it at all?

If this is true, then Garou could just copy Aizen's movements and attain immortality.

@notthegodmadara: Garou doesn’t have eyes and y’all keep saying KS 1 shots no Yamamoto and Bach was caught with KS and both would have stomped Aizen if it wasn’t for wonderweiss and ichigo.

Immortality doesn’t mean win Garou bullies this fodder for all eternity

Again garou solos the HST. Stop putting him in matchs like this.

Barragan doesnt have eyes either lol

@notthegodmadara: he does in his human form and Gin avoided KS by simply closing his eyes lol the weakness is there.

Even when caught in KS Garou would still stomp so moot point add that Garou’s radiation negates healing and will knock Aizen out to began with so he gets stomped or simply put Mode : Aizen puts an end to him.

I too think that Garou wins this one. But what will that tiny ass GBR do? He is better off with a nuclear punch that he used in IO.

Ends in a stalemate since Garou can’t kill Aizen, Aizen could seal him.

@allhellkingdox: you don’t know what happened at the end of bleach! Do you?…

garou stomps

Barragan was placed under KS before being evolved by the hogyoku shown in the manga lol...

how will garou stomp someone he will not see

Aizen is truly immortal, radiation won't do anything to him lol, also radiation doesn't negate healing, garous radiation is regular cosmic radiation lol

also please never speak about bleach again because you did not read it, Gin never avoided KS closing his eyes lmfao what are you even talking about, the only way Gin undid KS was when Aizen still had the weakness of needing to touch the blade to deactivate the ability, and that weakness no longer exist in Aizen anymore as he is one with his Zanpaktou

Ks doesn’t matter, garou would still kill him by accident.

Aizen also has no feats of coming back from being scatter across a solar system or punted into a black hole

This is a completely ridiculous sentiment and a disingenuous statement that anyone can make about any matchup.

Does Garou have feats of surviving any type of soul hax or absorption, as well as resisting any type of mind hax? NO

Why do you guys always give the character with the AP advantage the benefit of the doubt, that somehow Aizen‘s gonna find himself across the Solar System and he‘s gonna find himself in a black hole?

Let‘s be perfectly real.

Garou does exactly what he did against Saitama, which is open up with a blitz punch via nuclear fission. I don’t care if it kills Ichigo, it DOESN’T kill Aizen and now Garou is in KS, in which Aizen can literally do whatever he wants (aka soul absorption via Goryutenmetsu)

Your sentiments for Garou winning this matchup involve nonsense like Aizen getting punted out of the Solar System (comical), getting thrown into a black hole or Garou destroying the planet (OOC), all of which make zero sense and all of which are things he never did or would never do

Aizen overcomes the AP and speed advantage alone via his hax

Garou still has hyper space gates right?

Can’t he just redirect the attack or move around faster than Aizen can see? Aizen shouldn’t have similar combat speeds am j correct in that assumption?

I’m giving it to Garou. I don’t care what hax Aizen has, Garou’s far more versatile and can just copy all of Aizens hax

@deathu101: garou has zero anti-TP feat. Aizen sends him to bottom of the ocean

this threads shows the nature of fan idiots. Garou has zero telepathy-blocking feats . He has no answer to KS, aizen sends him to bottom of the ocean