Ainz vs Rimuru (Slime)

Round 1: Random Encounter

Round 2: They both get full knowledge

Manga/Anime feats allowed for both.

Who wins and why?

Fight takes place at the Grand Canyon

Well ainz beats rimuru in both.Novel rimuru on the other hand shit stomps ainz

He has No resistance to Timestop nor will he survive GOALID

I just read his Novel feats and abilities.

And none of that is going to save him from the Plethora of Instant Death spells that Ainz will throw out at him.

Novel rimiru stomps ainz.He resists death spell,GOALID needs to charge and rimuru is way faster than ainz,time stop is something he resists

@demonbane: It says nothing about him being able to resist a timestop only that he himself can initate a timestop and stop all Cognitive movement.

Ainz can use Wish upon a star and then just Trigger GOALID immediately.

No going to happen rimuru blizes ainz

@demonbane: No he won't because Silent timestop Makes it to where no attacks can be done while time is stopped Ainz merely needs to think it, that's what he did to Gazef.

Ainz then can just Wish upon a star and then right as Time resumes GOALID instantly triggers.

rimuru resists time stop .He can move in stopped time and has an ultimate skill.Everyone who has an ultimate skill in his verse nulls all lower magic which include times stop and more

@demonbane: He still can't harm Ainz During the effect of Silent Timestop.

Ainz then needs only to wish upon a star and instantly trigger GOALID to take the W.

He can time stop is not going to affect him and he is way faster than ainz

@demonbane: not to mention the 12 seconds before the activation of GOALID would means... Thought acceleration (1,000,000 times) + Ciel analyzing the skills, copied it, and finding a way to counter the spell.

And he Really was able to move in the stopped time caused by someone else.

@diesirae: Ainz has defenses against information gathering, so Rimuru cannot analyze anything. Ainz also has items that removes the cast time of his super-tier magic in order to make them cast instantly, thus the 12sec delay of GALD is rendered moot.

@demonbane: was it just me or did Rimuru survived an Instant Death attack before? (Ramiris's Annihilation if my memory serves me right).

And killing the "present" Rimuru won't kill him eitherz right?

That is an OP slime... but I don't know enough to give an opinion this time...

@reikai: also, there's Precognition to help him sense danger before it happens. Coped with the fact that Rimuru would more than likely to leave a clone in his own pocket dimension to prevent things like instant death (he already got resistance against it anyway).

And he could also use his subordinates 's skills, and one of them has the ability to turn illusion into reality and the other way around. So using that to turn the illusion of GOALID being failed to activate with the reality is not a big deal.

rimuru also has holy attacks

Basically that...

Ainz beats anime and manga rimuru, novel rimuru after he awakens as a demon lord stomps, all ainz hax gets resisted, even if he kills rimuru that's merely a clone, with the real one being in imaginary space, rimuru copies all ainz hax, and is way faster being FTL.

Rimuru after evolving Raphael to Ciel and with Void God Azathoth overpowers any kind of hax Ainz will throw at him.

As a sidenote, the logic that Ainz explains that he cant use any magic and spells inside stopped time to hit his enemy but only able to cast them for when time starts moving(basically making Ainz completely vulnerable to any attack from his opponents in stopped time as he cant use any magic to defend himself), which is also applicable to Slime verse. Anyone except Rimuru, Yuuki and Guy Crimson is unable to use magic in stopped time. But Rimuru with the help of Ciel, can completely bypass that weakness

Ainz stomps.

Rimuru quite literally blinks the verse away.

"Because a long time has passed, Turn Null has accumulated an enormous amount of energy. Although Veldanava is said to have lost Turn Null by creating the world, there’s no problem since Rimuru-sama has Imaginary Space. Because Imaginary Space has an infinite capacity, it can’t be filled up. However, it has already been filled with enough energy that even recreating the world tens of thousands of times is possible. Additionally, it’s possible to reproduce the memories of those connected to Rimuru-sama and intentionally create a world that’s nearly identical from before. What will you do?"

End of Novel Rimuru blinks the entire Overlord verse away

@bigdudu: That's only true for emission type magics. Any other magic that are activated through contact can work just fine. Hence why Rimuru saying that Chloe is very strong in a scenario where she has to stop time because she has both time stop amd one of the strongest contact based skill (Absolute Severance). Ofc, this is not including Guy Crimson into the mix as he'd beat Chloe regardless of scenarios

@chaos239: Really? Some feats?

@rampagethefirst:

"Because a long time has passed, Turn Null has accumulated an enormous amount of energy. Although Veldanava is said to have lost Turn Null by creating the world, there’s no problem since Rimuru-sama has Imaginary Space. Because Imaginary Space has an infinite capacity, it can’t be filled up. However, it has already been filled with enough energy that even recreating the world tens of thousands of times is possible. Additionally, it’s possible to reproduce the memories of those connected to Rimuru-sama and intentionally create a world that’s nearly identical from before. What will you do?"

He is superior to the creator of his verse who created several universes

"He had created several different worlds, and yet all of them showed the same tendencies in the end. The reason for this was emotion. It was something that he had given as a means to stimulate people and to help them grow even more, but emotions that became too extreme had a tendency of wanting to eradicate the opinions of others. Different kinds of justice were born through different ways of thinking. That is what Veldanava thought. He decided that this phenomenon was a necessary evil, and so he accepted the way the world was as a testing ground for the soul. The warring would likely stop if humans were monitored completely.

However, their emotions would no longer be stimulated, and the world would turn into a dystopia that might be equal, but lacked free will. And that was not the kind of world that Veldanava wanted. He experimented several times after that, trying to push humans into growing in the way that he wanted. Several parallel worlds existed with small details changed in each, allowing them to evolve in different ways. Within this system, the humans with especially matured souls were selected to govern the souls with shorter life-spans. And so angels and demons were born. The system had been constructed so that the souls of all the dimensions would circulate. The watchers were limited to how much they could intervene, and commanded to prevent the basis of the world from falling apart. These were Guy, Ramiris, Dino and others like them. Because there was very little mana in the world that I was originally in, I never witnessed anything spiritual, but perhaps there were also guardians there. Well, none of that means anything now. In any case, the construction of the system is complete. The slaying of the giants who appeared irregularly is finished, and the world is now stable."

Those aren't inherently magic/spells though. That's why Unique and Ultimate Skills are the only ones one can use within stopped time. Unique and Ultimate skills aren't considered as actual "magic" as they are basically abilities granted to them by the Akashik Records, which surpasses spacetime in a Universe

Novel literally said

The use of emission type power is impossible inside the “Suspended World”, so magic can’t be invoked. Well, I might be able to do it if I become accustomed to it, but it seems to be very difficult.

Also,『Future Prediction』 cannot be used due to the activation of “Suspended World”. I could only depend on pure technique and physical ability. Although, any ability that activates through touch seems to be usable.

So yes, it can be used. Nothing ever points out to only outliers Unique Skills on par with Ultimate Skills or Ultimate Skills can be used under stopped time, contact based power can also be used. Heck, Rimuru outright said Yuuki sealed most of his abilities by stopping time in their final fight. And text said emission type power, not specifically magic. So that mean something like Black Flame (Extra Skill), Black Lightning (Extra Skill), Nihility Hazard (result of an Ultimate Gift), or almost everything in Dagruel's arsenal (which was an Ultimate Skill equivalent because Dagruel himself is an existence akin to one, much like the True Dragons); which happened to be an example of how an US tier hax can be restricted by this same rule, would fall under this restriction.

Also Chloe's Yog-Sothoth (both its king and god version) time travel function that cannot be used under stopped time. So your "only unique and ultimate skills can be used under stopped time" are canonically proven to be false.

But something like Magical Haki (magic), Melt Slash (not really a magic but not really a skill either), or Dim Stream Slash (neither a magic or a skill IIRC, smth smth swording) could work just fine.

Also what granted someone skill in any form isn't Akashic Record. It's the World System. Akashic Record was just the ruby text for Yuuki's Origin Skill - Information King.

It's not because the World System, that transcend space-time, granted someone skills that the skills became usable under time stop. Heck, it doesn't even have anything to do with it. You're confusing the perk someone gained after becoming a Spiritual Lifeform (usually accompanied by having at least 1 Ultimate Skill/Gift) with a form of power being usable under time stop. What makes something usable under time stop are:

1. As stated, activated through contact (Magical Haki or Absolute Severance)

2. Don't rely on a working World System or flowing time to work (Shion's Susano'o and Diablo's Paradise Time and End of World)

3. A move used in tandem with Space-Time based power (Individual moves used by Diablo, Zegion, Benimaru, and Dino. With at least 2 moves being something not stemming from their US)

Ainz is from a futur earth and was a salary man wellverse in his game really smart in term of battle tactics and else which rimuru isn't now let's take ainz use all goal of life is death which bypass any resistance and immunity whatsoever

Ainz has better spell

Ainz has can change his class as a warrior with 100 lvl

Ainz has world item

Didn't ainz has a second life if he's dead?

BUT rimuru is faster

And rimuru has unique Skills

Ainz has reality slash which could be a problem for rimuru

Rimuru is dead in his original world but not ainz

If i believe what people say about it's novel he sould be able to blink ainz but how to choose cause i heard ainz can resurect once dead and world item he is a great tacticians it's difficult to choose between uniqu skill and world item shit i can't

WN Rimuru treats Ainz and his entire series like the full force of the US military would a child with a water gun.

Anime/Manga Rimuru gets stomped tbh

Sorry but rimuru novels stomp overlord verse by a blink anything below or equal rimuru awakaned as a demon lord get stomp by ainz but anything above or equal via veldora or azathot stomp not only ainz but solo the entire overlord verse

Now it is a problem of which rimuru

Ainz> anime\manga rimuru

If it's Rimuru webnovel he curbstomp overlord verse with a blink

@areneacaulem: Tbh, Manga Rimuru is catching up to become stronger the manga Ainz.

Ainz stomps pre harvest festival. And then rimuru stomps.

Even pre-Hasvest Rimuru can beat Ainz if he plays it right. After all, he survived Hinata's Disintegration by transferring his soul into a clone. Ainz still requires to cast TGoALiD before the Time Stop, that gives Great Sage enough time to analyze the problem and start the countermeasure.

Post-harvest is just a stomp, even post-harvest Gabiru should wreck the whole Overlord-verse by himself.

RImuru stomps both rounds.

Rimuru stomps lol, fanboys will be fanboys

anime Rimuru loses for now , WN Rimuru blinks the verse.

Anime Rimuru gets haxstomped, silent timestop, WUAS, then GOALID for a gg.

WN Rimuru solos this verse and probably your favorite verse.

Meh, manga Rimuru might win rn. Chapter 68 basically sums up all of the new stuff he got from being a Demon Lord. He’s got resistances to basically anything Ainz can do(idk how his resistances would work with instant death spells tho) , and is at least somewhat comparable to Leon who could destroy a continent sized city. He also has a shitton of hax that idk if Ainz can handle. I’m not sure about his speed, but his clone was somewhat keeping up with Hinata(although she didn’t use Melt Slash, so it’s not a FTL feat). I haven’t read TSSDK in a while so correct me if I’m wrong but I think manga Rimuru could possibly win. Obviously web novel Rimuru one shots the verse tho

Not a fair fight, in one way or another. Anime/manga Rimuru is extremely weak. That particular Rimuru isn't on the same weight class as Ainz.

On the other hand, novel Rimuru is so much on higher plane than Ainz, that it's the other way around. Hell, even Demon Slime Rimuru completely outclasses Ainz, much less Ultimate Slime Rimuru.

@hmsong: Anime Rimuru is now a Demon Lord class.

But i still don't see anything he could do to out perform Ainz.

Did you just said that Ainz has a chance to beat Rimuru ? 😂😂 Currently I have Benimaru and Shion soloing all guardians ainz and black scripture at once.

First of Rimuru is omnpresent he has control over the concept of time space and reality he can rewrite the concept of time. Also can we stop with this non sense "timestop + instant death GG" first of all Rimuru has immunity to this kind of weak spells. Also we are not fools some people read Overlord Manga and WN. For instant death to work it needs 2 conditions

1. The person must be below level 100 (the guardians pretty much are immunity to this spell)

2. It can only ignore immortality for type 1 to 4 only. For immortality type 5 you need existence erasure.

Rimuru has Immortality type 9. He revieved himself after his concept was erased from existence so again how Ainz gonna beat someone who literally cannot die. Does ainz have a spell that force the concept of death in Rimuru oh I forgot that not even that would work on Rimuru.

Let's list some of Rimuru's abilities (Speed feats: I have Rimuru at irrelevant speed and after he became a god he is omnipresent)

As feats:

1. Void God Azathoth: Rimuru's main Ultimate SkillThis Ultimate Skill power revolves around Time-Space manipulation, Consuming power, and magical energy source.

2. Turn Null (Nothingness Collapse): By harnessing the power of a chaotic, nuclear dimension, Rimuru can bypass the need for mana when using magic while also increasing the potency of his spells exponentially. This energy is, in fact, the primordial energy which was used to create the several parallel worlds that exist. Turn Null can create and destroy everything. Using his Turn Null Veldanava create the world and the spirits, whose birth caused the existence of their respective elements. For example, time never existed until the Spirit of Time was born. In addition in the future, a new spirit will be born that destroys everything including the other spirits.

3. Harvest Lord Shub-Niggurath: This Ultimate Skill power revolves around skills mimicry and skills creation. Its subskills are the following:

Skill Creation: An ability that enables Rimuru to create new skills from information and skills that he has already gathered via his Analysis Expert & Food Chain skills.

Skill Duplication: The ability to duplicate any skills he's obtained and analyzed.

4. Evil Dragon Lord Azi Dahaka An ability that allows Rimuru to absorb the abilities and properties of creatures he has absorbed, adding them to himself and improving their efficiency beyond that of their original owners.

5. Hell Flare: A dome five meters in diameter which burns the target to nothingness with temperatures of several hundred million degrees ignoring durability

6. Time Warp: The ability to transcend time and space to reach the location he desires. He uses this to come back to the battlefield after being sent to the End of Time and Space by Yuuki. He also uses it to go to his old world to heal his dying old self, Mikami Satoru

7. Disintegration: An ability obtained from Hinata which targets everything from the atom to the soul, upon its activation, a brilliant white light travels to the target at a speed of light, and completely erases the target.

8. Avarice King Mammon: An ultimate skill ability obtained from Yuuki which specialised in depriving. It can be used to steal his opponents' souls, life, energy, abilities even their minds by re-writing the information in their soul.

9. Information King-Akashic Records This makes Rimuru able to use every ability and magic in existence.

10. Chrono Saltation: An ultimate super-dimensional magic that caused the target to jump to a space-time where time had ended. This ability takes his targets to the end of space-time, along with any of their clones wherever they exist in space-time

11. Prideful Lord Lucifer: Allows Rimuru to complete replication of abilities that he sees even once

12. Fallen Thanatos: An ability which causes the death of its targets, even if his opponent is using a virtual body, it’s an inescapable technique that will affect not only their virtual body but also their main body even if it is in a distant place also ignoring all types of immortality

13. Lustful King Asmodeus: A skill which governs over life and death, with it she can revive the dead, and apply instant death on her opponents. Also allows her to sense vitality and life energy. Can also increase others regenerative capabilities so even a fatal injury will heal in an instant.

14. Magic Nullify: An ability which automatically neutralizes all magic attacks, including abilities like death manipulation and existence erasure

15. Instant Death: Adalman's ability which can kill his targets just by looking, failure to resist, means instant death (Huh speaking about wolf Rimuru can also use instant death but leagues above Ainz obviously)

16. Chaotic Fate: An ability that manipulates fate. It is a slash that brings the results that the user wishes for. Even if fate said that something cannot be cut, this ability will still allow the user to cut through it.

Should I continue ? I gave you only a few of his thousands skills. You literally cannot prove me wrong about this tell me how Ainz is gonna counter this things and don't you dare to say "wish upon a star" again Rimuru has causality fate and reality manipulation that won't work

So again can you prove me again that Ainz beats Rimuru ?

Rimuru mid to high due to being restricted

Lol at these people. Ainz will not beat Rimuru.

Why? Because the powers that ainz have and his skeleton avatar are just computers simulations.even his floor guardians and the entire nazarick are just computer simulations.

Remember ainz was not actually teleported into another universe, his min was only trapped inside the computer game that he and friends used to play.

Evidence to support that ainz powers are just computer simulations.

1. He still has access to the admin menu. Hence he was able to reprogram albedo to become slutty

2. When he revived shaltear he used a lot of gold to respawn her since that's the mechanics of the game.

In short the magical world where ainz now operates as a magical skeleton being all those things are just computer simulations. Even the skeleton being that we read and watch it's just the computer game Avatar of mongga.

The only actual universe in overlord is the one where momongga's human body is currently located. But the as of now Momongga is still currently trapped inside a literal gaming console.

So rimuru even in Majin level can just destroy the console or unplug it and boom ainz is gone already.

Lol at this people. Ainz will not beat Rimuru.

Why? Because the powers that ainz have and his skeleton avatars are just computers simulations.

Remember ainz was not actually teleported into another universe, his was only trapped inside the computer game that he and friends used to play.

Evidence to support that ainz powers are just computer simulations.

1. He still has access to the admin menu. Hence he was able to reprogram albedo to become slutty

2. When he revived shaltear he used a lot of gold to respawn her since that's the mechanics of the game.

In short the magical world where ainz now operates as a magical skeleton being all those things are just computer simulations. Even the skeleton being that we read and watch it's just the computer game Avatar of mongga.

The only actual universe in overlord is the one where momongga's human body is currently located. But the as of now Momongga is still currently trapped inside a literal gaming console.

So rimuru even in Majin level can just destroy the console or unplug it and boom ainz is gone already.

Lol at this people. Ainz will not beat Rimuru.

Why? Because the powers that ainz have and his skeleton avatars are just computers simulations.

Remember ainz was not actually teleported into another universe, his was only trapped inside the computer game that he and friends used to play.

Evidence to support that ainz's powers are just computer simulations.

1. He still has access to the admin menu. Hence he was able to reprogram albedo to become slutty

2. When he revived shaltear he used a lot of gold to respawn her since that's the mechanics of the game.

In short the magical world where ainz now operates as a magical skeleton being all those things are just computer simulations. Even the skeleton being that we read and watch it's just the computer game Avatar of mongga.

The only actual universe in overlord is the one where momongga's human body is currently located. But as of now Momongga is still currently trapped inside a literal gaming console.

So rimuru even in Majin level can just destroy the console or unplug it and boom ainz is gone already.