@etriel: See, that's the problem though, The Presence is just a character owned by DC, Superman is not a character owned by DC, Superman is actually real.
Monitors eat your heart out.
@einefaust: superman is just. Character an the actual comic proves ahl is the platonic concept of heroes. You prove that your unreasonable
Can you understand difference between real GOD and only a fictional character who seems to be GOD?
Real GOD is without Superman.
It can't be doubted.
But,Presence can't be without Superman because Presence is a only DC character based on judeo-christian GOD.
So,as long as Presence is DC/vertigo character, He can't be without Superman because it has been officially confirmed that everything in DC come from Superman.
@einefaust: Don't need to... we already have Ahl.
But I'll bite. The most metafictional thing for fiction to be is to be reality. In reality Dr Occult came first, other superheroes came later. In reality when something is first followed by others it means they started something.
For example, the first mark written in a book started the story being written.
Besides, explain how could Dr Occult be from Superman when he was already there?
If it is your logic, Darkseid is the omnipotent idea of evil.
So,Darkseid stomps AHL.
What a nonsense.
@einefaust: fictional god supposed to represent "real" but is less that something the representes a dude who hasn't been around for thousands of years or nearly affected as many lives boy you need to get slapped I said id rather not get into that everyone dc came up with be it cas or mandrakk to the overvoid to the presence himself is just a character wwritten by dc hello.
Again though AHL wins this
No matter how you deny,Presence is not real GOD. He is only a fictional
character.
And,As long as he is only a DC character, He can't be without Superman.It is confirmed fact supported by DC official.
CAS murderstomps fake GOD and fake platonic idea.
@einefaust: ha lol no especially considering its canon that he existed before. Concepts existed that would mean superman as well your derailing the thread my agruement is AHL is the concept for heroes he is the god of heroes superman is a hero ergo he would stem from him an therefore lose
@einefaust: also cas isnt real either he is just a character
Can you understand that AHL is only a character who is roled as the god of superheroes.
But,He is neither the real idea of superheroes nor The god of superheroes.
He is only a character written by DC.
So,as long as he is only a DC chcdaracter, He is only a byproduct of metaverse and Superman because everything in DC come from the idea of Superman as the idea of Superhero itself.
So,CAS murderstomps fake idea because CAS represents the platonic idea of Superhero and Superman himself.
Are you sure that Dr Occult or Zatara can be the idea and singularity of Superheroes like Superman?
In Superrobot genre, Mazinger Z is like Superman as the idea and singularity of Superrobot despite there has been many robot like Tetsujin 28.
Can Dr Occult or Zatara be like Superman.I want your
honest answer.
@einefaust: again superman is a character as well. AHL was created by retco the people who make changes to the multiverse an they created him to be the idea of heroes not superman sorry thats a retcon on superman again supermans idea inspired other wrriters to make other characters the universe itself came from the void that is nothingness aka the presence again no way around it AHL wins stay mad all you want you have the scans I posted them.
Can retco truly remove Superman from real history of DC comics and Superhero genre?
If not,Retco are only fake.
In the first place,Retco is metafictional characters based on the concept of retcon.
But,DC has never removed superman from DC history because Superman is too important and everything in DC come from him and his story.
So,No matter how Retco try to erase the idea of Superman,They are never able to remove Superman from existece.
So,CAS(representation of the idea of Superman) murderstomps Retco.
Nothing matters.
Retconn is a physical place you can go to. Its not even the concept of Retcon itself, it is a literal physical place. Limbo in Superman Beyond is the conceptual form of that place. Einfaust, you don't even have to ask them for information, just read the comic page. They are all lying just as they have been with Final Crisis. This single scan explains everything.
1. Retonn isn't outside of everything. It is inside of "existence". You were told the opposite by them, yet, here it the scan from the comic proving they are lying to you.
2. They can only make new hyper reality by hijacking and copying over others.
3. From that copy, they could only take a piece of it and not the entire reality.
Final Heaven is the Foundation of Creation. Implying it is still under whoever and whatever the ultimate Creator is (Overvoid)
Retconn is made to satisfy the beings who MONITORlittle Monitors of entertaining stories in the form of DC comics. Dang, that sounds precisely familiar to me.
So, we have a scan that says Retconn is the last place in existence above.
Here is Limbo, another word for Retcon, the meta concept of Retconn and not the physical place in a scan that says its the last place in existence.
Filth - Retcon, a place where stories are remade and continuity is in flux by other beings. It is the last outpost of existence before existence ends. Beyond it, are entities who consume stories and watch Monitors.
Final Crisis - Limbo, a place where stories are sent to be adopted into noncanon continuity and constantly in flux by other beings. It is the last outpost of existence before existence ends. Beyond it, are entities who consume stories called Monitors.
Yasindermann and Etriel have no clue what they are talking about.
Mr. Myxzptlk has better feats than they do. My favorite part is that Retco. Or Retconn as it is called, or also Oversphere (it has three names) is only in view of DC Comics. Haha. It has nothing to do with anything else or anything that Overvoid represents and was stated to contain by the authors. lol
Can retco truly remove Superman from real history of DC comics and Superhero genre?
If not,Retco are only fake.
In the first place,Retco is metafictional characters based on the concept of retcon.
But,DC has never removed superman from DC history because Superman is too important and everything in DC come from him and his story.
So,No matter how Retco try to erase the idea of Superman,They are never able to remove Superman from existece.
So,CAS(representation of the idea of Superman) murderstomps Retco.
Nothing matters.
More over. The beings of the Paperverse are looked at by higher dimensional beings just like Mr. Myxzptlk and Captain Atom.
Captain Atom doing the literal same thing
Etriels BS justification for their superiority is that they have the cosmic map. Great, so does Captain Atom. So does Mr. Mxyzptlk. So does the Justice League...haha. Gotta love it when Vertigo Wankers will stop at nothing to try to censor information and pass it along as something evidence based.
Here are Monitors giving the comic books back to the same comic book. Waiting for Retcon to give The Filth comic series back to the workers in Retcon. Until then, they are far, far lesser than the Nil Monitors.
So based on feats and comic statements, Nil Monitors > Oversphere by literal infinite magnitude. Based on facts and statements:
CAS > Nil Monitors by Infinite Magnitude.
/thread
Thank you,Michael.
I laugh at their logic that very minor setting(wanked by their personal interpretion) limited by one story, should be above official setting supported/confirmed by many main event and many author.
@michaeljulius@einefaust That is you:
Welcome. They don't ever post relevant scans for a good reason. It destroys their entire nonsenseargument. This is the censorship squad we are debating and talking to. They aren't here to debate comics and enjoy whatever the hierarchy is. They are here daily only to push their views and get the general concensus to be whatever they prefer.
Thank you,Michael.
I laugh at their logic that very minor setting(wanked by their personal interpretion) limited by one story, should be above official setting supported/confirmed by many main event and many author.
That is amazing! Let me recap how emotionally crippled you guys are by me:
- Makes countless threads dedicated to me
- Has a private message string that you think I can't read (lol) in which you bicker about me daily with about 12 other users.
- Leeching into Reddit and other forums to do the same as the above two
- Making songs about me
I'm flattered, really, but you need a new love interest. I don't want to be your God anymore, you are immensely creepy.
CAS still destroys.
That is amazing! Let me recap how emotionally crippled you guys are by me:
- Makes countless threads dedicated to me
- Has a private message string that you think I can't read (lol) in which you bicker about me daily with about 12 other users.
- Leeching into Reddit and other forums to do the same as the above two
- Making songs about me
I'm flattered, really, but you need a new love interest. I don't want to be your God anymore, you are immensely creepy.
CAS still destroys.
MANDRAKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK FACKINGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG REALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
If you can't debunk anything, You always begin personal bashing.
Typical Troll's logic.
''SUPERMANNNNNNNN MORE POPULAR, HE WIN!'' That is LOGIC! EXACTLY THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you understand that I have voted for Superman because DC official has treated him as The One of DC cosmology?
I am based on official setting comnfirmed canonically and metafictionally by many author and many works.
If you want to debunk me, prove it with official evidence, not your personal opinion or personal bashing.
If it is your tactic, You are an idiot.
lmao.
CAS stomps, Retconn and Oversphere are below Limbo. Love how Yasindermann says I am resorting to insults when someone literally made a shrine to me and sang a song for me. Haha.
I laugh at their logic that very minor setting(wanked by their personal interpretion) limited by one story, should be above official setting supported/confirmed by many main event and many author.
LOL. You're literally making up you're own personal theories that were never referenced anywhere and then call it ''factual and official stuff''. You try to shift the burden of proof on others and say: ''DEBUNK ITTTTT!'', when you claims are literally unproven and unbacked bullshit.
Read Infinite Crisis,Final Crisis,Multiversity,Doomsday Clock,Supergods,All Star Superman,etc.
Are they not enough?
Maybe you and Etriel should form a boy band and sing about me more. Until then, CAS stomps AHL because the story of The Filth isn't meta.
I laugh at their logic that very minor setting(wanked by their personal interpretion) limited by one story, should be above official setting supported/confirmed by many main event and many author.
LOL. You're literally making up you're own personal theories that were never referenced anywhere and then call it ''factual and official stuff''. You try to shift the burden of proof on others and say: ''DEBUNK ITTTTT!'', when you claims are literally unproven and unbacked bullshit.
@einefaust: don't see why not they have a button that can reset the entire of dc. Superman is apart of dc. Clearly theyre not fake. See your reasoning is horrible to a T retco could remove superman but why would they thats the question you must ask again you derail cause my whole point is that ahl is the concept of heroism an all that it stands for an superman falls under that category
Yea he has retconned a lot of things limbo is really no longer a thing retco is difference between them retco is caise of change in the multiverse limbo is where forgotten people go to mandrakk is apart of creation an got beat by someone in creation cas is made of nth metal note mandrakk states that even superman coated in divine metal could not stop him divine metal is nth metal. Monitiors are apart of creation so is nil. Perpetua can manipulate the overvoid so I guess he had a reason to be afraid after all Michael is an idiot he thinks retco or the enoyomus created dc when again wrong in some cases it was perpetua an others is the presence
@y3kthunder: So you are an illiterate drone who is biased and requires Hooked on Phonics? Thanks for letting us know. Here is a link to it on Amazon, it is only $150 or so.
https://www.amazon.com/Hooked-Phonics-Complete-Learn-through/dp/1940384087
Learn to read.
YOU LOSE.
@michaeljulius: wow according to your logic there called something different so they cant be the same. An oh limbo is where forgotten characters go retco is the people who are responsible for the changes. YOU LOSE
That's the point, you silly ninny.
Limbo is the last outpost of Existence and the damned scan from The Filth says Final Heaven IS NOT the final place in existence. All three of you are illiterate and should stop debating anything in the cosmic tier.
@michaeljulius: wow according to your logic there called something different so they cant be the same. An oh limbo is where forgotten characters go retco is the people who are responsible for the changes. YOU LOSE
@michaeljulius: never said it was the final place did I nope apparently you can't read I just said retco was responsible for the changes to the multiverse an they oversee it limbo is where forgotten characters go to either its a different place of they changed it no way around that prehaps you shouldn't be apart of these kind of debates. Also I long as I feel like being apart of them i will be you don't like thatbor what I have to say its as simple as ignoring me not hard to do I do it to people all the time
@michaeljulius: and again by your logic the properties nor the placement make no difference if theyre called something different
No, again, you miss the entire point of the argument. Your argument is that Oversphere > Limbo. One of them is the final edge of existence and one isnt.
Again, you and your crew can't see anything meaningful, even when it is jammed into your eye sockets. These topics are over your head.
@michaeljulius: and again by your logic the properties nor the placement make no difference if theyre called something different
@michaeljulius: you are retarded thats not my agruement in the slightest I've already stated it multiple times
@michaeljulius: herp derp neon confirms this as he proceeds to whoop him. Duhhhhhh ahhh
Already got retconned by synder
You sure about that, kid?
@michaeljulius: you are retarded thats not my agruement in the slightest I've already stated it multiple times
@michaeljulius: https://i.imgur.com/hudcsZE.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/o0ZSHtw.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/K3zcVuC.jpg
Yup
Again my argument for this thread was AHL is the concept for heroes superman is a hero therefore he cannot beat the concept that is heroism
This is for those that have troubles reading
So,prove it with actual evidence.
As long as everything come from metaverse and Superman, Retco and Oversphere are byproducts of them.
If you say otherwise, prove it with official stuff.
You have posted nothing to prove your personal view.
Thank you,Michael.
I laugh at their logic that very minor setting(wanked by their personal interpretion) limited by one story, should be above official setting supported/confirmed by many main event and many author.
This.
I need not repeat this.
@einefaust: prove what exactly i just gave proof that ahl is the concept for heroes an superman is a hero so...
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