AFO Shigaraki vs Generator Rex

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Pre-God nanite Rex vs Peak Shigaraki

Who wins?

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#2  Edited By LordTwigo

Shigaraki. Rex should be able to deflect decay with his block party shields, but they won't last forever and Shigaraki has other ways of besting Rex

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Probably Shiggy.

Rex is versatile enough to annoy the heck out of him. The real problem is not messing up or getting tagged once.

Because without knowledge, Rex might get cocky and die.

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Feats for shigaraki?

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#5  Edited By DarkDementor101

I'd back shigaraki due to better raw stats like speed and strength, and far greater versatility, but Rex does have a solid counter to his decay which is the Block Party build. AFAIK, Shigaraki's decay works on the atomic level, but Rex's Block Party has shown resisting attacks of similar nature. Then again it would amount to nothing as Rex would have to focus heavily on his defence, leaving him to be taken down, eventually, since he cant really fight back

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Shigaraki should stomp now

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@depressedsleep: He never did. His best feat is Town level and destroying multiple city blocks.

Only his shield is island level because it blocked a fairly large beam from a molecular destabiliser.

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#18  Edited By eathantom30x11

@tighten_returns: I didn’t realize u had a Van kleiss pfp lol. Base form Rex has literally gone toe to toe with 5 Demi-gods and even overpowered all of them at once ( who were each grant control over gravity, matter and energy, space-time, elemental and technology.) and Fought overpowered and defeated a EVO god ( which had the combined power of gravity, matter and energy, space-time, elemental and technology into one and can take on a large scale particle laser powerful enough to contain and close a dimensional rift created by the alpha with the physics and power on it being compared to a star collapsing with out scratch ) in his full omega 1 EVO form and can even damage it with a single rocket powered fist so Rex wins. Since you know Van kleiss and how insanely powerful he is, Base Rex has fought him so many times already, and Van Kleiss has the power the size of a country in Abysus, being immortal as well, and his ability to turn anyone into an Evo.

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#19  Edited By eathantom30x11

@darkdementor101: Base Rex can certainly fight back. His rylanders omega Nanite grants him the ability to heal instantly and revive from the dead. His Block party has a secondary mode where he can create a huge dome around him or he can create two circular shields in both arms to block Shigaraki’s decay. His block party tanked hits from the 5Demi Gods’ Mech bot, tanked hits from Humangasour, which is one of Ben’s strongest Aliens, and he blocked/deflected the Molecular Destabilizer that kills atoms. He can combine his builds simultaneously so one arm with block and the other with a weapon or flight, etc. he was secondary modes for his builds and the omega builds are way more powerful. Builds: Smack hands, BFS (Big Fat sword), Battle saw, Punk busters, Rex rider, Boogie pack, Slam cannon, Blast caster, Funchucks, Bad axes, Block party, and Sky slyder. This is all base Rex btw. Evo form Rex and Omega form Rex would be a mismatch for Shigaraki. Omega form Rex defeated the combined power of the 5Demi Gods who had the power to control all matter, antimatter, energy, spacetime, and chemical elements of nature. Lastly, God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code is blinking Shiggy out of existence. God mode Rex is complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben 10 verse. He can do whatever he wants with a thought. He’s on pare with Alien x

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Moving this to Battles

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@darkdementor101: Base Rex can certainly fight back. His rylanders omega Nanite grants him the ability to heal instantly and revive from the dead. His Block party has a secondary mode where he can create a huge dome around him or he can create two circular shields in both arms to block Shigaraki’s decay. His block party tanked hits from the 5Demi Gods’ Mech bot, tanked hits from Humangasour, which is one of Ben’s strongest Aliens, and he blocked/deflected the Molecular Destabilizer that kills atoms. He can combine his builds simultaneously so one arm with block and the other with a weapon or flight, etc. he was secondary modes for his builds and the omega builds are way more powerful. Builds: Smack hands, BFS (Big Fat sword), Battle saw, Punk busters, Rex rider, Boogie pack, Slam cannon, Blast caster, Funchucks, Bad axes, Block party, and Sky slyder. This is all base Rex btw. Evo form Rex and Omega form Rex would be a mismatch for Shigaraki. Omega form Rex defeated the combined power of the 5Demi Gods who had the power to control all matter, antimatter, energy, spacetime, and chemical elements of nature. Lastly, God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code is blinking Shiggy out of existence. God mode Rex is complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben 10 verse. He can do whatever he wants with a thought. He’s on pare with Alien x

A lot of this is way off the mark

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Shigaraki destroys, only god nanite Rex can beat him

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#23  Edited By eathantom30x11

@thewatcherking: God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code is def beating him no Qs. But Shigaraki also isn’t beating omega form Rex, the same form he used to defeat the combined power/mech bot of the 5 Demi Gods who each had a Meta Nanite.

Base Rex is a better match up for Shigaraki. Rex’s block party energy can deflect and block Shigaraki decay attack and the same energy from Rex’s Bad axes so if Rex uses his Bad axes, plus combining his builds simultaneously, and then also using his secondary modes, he can match Shigaraki well. Base Rex is veryyyyy versatile, that’s benefiting him well here. Rex’s rylander omega Nanite can heal instantly and revive Rex from the dead, it’s sentiment and has all the defense mechanisms in smth is wrong with their user. Rex can use his Bad axes, Battle saw, BFS (Big Fat Sword), and Drill combat to slice and drill the hell outta peak Shigaraki. Rex has unlimited amount of Nanite creations so…

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Decay GG

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@edgelord91: Rex’s block party and Bad axes can block his decay attack. God Mode Rex can blink him outta existence. He’s on pare with Alien x. Ik for sure y’all don’t rlly know who Rex is.

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@eathantom30x11: shigarki can spread his decay through the ground. And the fact remains if he actually touches Rex that's it.

Nanite rex stomps sure but nothing suggest he's alien x tier

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@edgelord91: Rex’s Block party has secondary modes where he can make a huge dome around him and the decay won’t touch him. Or he can make two circular shields to deflect the attack since block party blocked the Molecular Destabilizer which kills atoms and is large island lvl. He can combine his builds simultaneously making him extremely versatile. He can use Sky slyder a build that can keep up with Xlr8 and Jetray to fly quickly with block party and other builds for attacks and defense. His BFS (Big Fat Sword) can slice through nanites that are microscopic so he can use BFS , Battle Saw, and Bad Axes to slice Shiggy into bits of pieces and not allow him to regenerate. Rex is nanites can revive him and heal him instantly, Nanite tech is on pare with Greymatter species tech and the Omega1 and Alpha Nanite are stated to be equals.

God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code: Spacetime, Technology, Gravity Matter, Anti- Matter, Energy, Elements of Nature. He’s complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben 10 verse. The creator of both shows Duncan, stated God Rex can do whatever he wants with a simple thought. God mode Rex now has God lvl tech against Alien x’s failsafe.

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@eathantom30x11: demi gods were pretty underwhelming, Energy guy's best feat is absorbing power from a nuclear reactor, gravity guy's best feat is blowing up 3 stories of a building and fire and ice guy's best feat is vaporizing a tank, which are all building level - City-Block level hence why rex was beating them fairly easily he only ever had problems with the guy who used time powers but even then he only used his reversing time powers twice. Once they combined rex was still able to stagger them with his attack and they only really managed to hurt him cause rex is sort of a glass cannon.

In the combined form their best feat is when they shot a wave of fire at omega rex which is Multi-City block level - Town level but rex no sells this In omega form. Omega form rex would definitely be a match for shigaraki.

Yeah caesar said "like a star in collapse-" and then he gets cut off. I don't think the laser is star level for containing that event though cause it makes no sense, at best the lasers scale to the damage bolts of lightning from that event caused. And they used a shield to block that laser anyway and rex never broke through their shields so rex doesn't really scale to the laser.

Just because kleiss could control abysus before doesn't mean he had country level durability, he just had really good regen but he was still vaporized by rex using the bfs and that feat is like 5.7 - 10 kilotons.

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"God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code: Spacetime, Technology, Gravity Matter, Anti- Matter, Energy, Elements of Nature. He’s complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben 10 verse. The creator of both shows Duncan, stated God Rex can do whatever he wants with a simple thought. God mode Rex now has God lvl tech against Alien x’s failsafe."

Lol

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#32  Edited By eathantom30x11

@tighten_returns: the Demi Gods each had a Meta Nanite so we know how powerful they actually are. It doesn’t rlly matter what feats they used bc they were still inexperienced with their powers and was just trying it out, they were not intending to go all out in the city lol they just wanted more power and was planning to take over the world. Base Rex was wrecking them bc he had stated quote, “I’m been using my powers a whole lot longer” with experience but Rex didn’t even use a lot of his secondary modes during the battle which is understandable. Base form Rex has dodged lightning twice in reaction speed, he knows hand to hand combat training with providence for so many years, and he’s very quick n acrobatic, plus very versatile with his machines at will.

For Van Kleiss, he’s an extremely powerful villain at his peak. He can revive himself from the Dead, he has the power the size of Abysus/plus environment manipulation at will. He also has this gauntlet that has so many abilities. He can extend the arm 10-30 for long range attacks, he’s an expert hand to hand combatant being acrobatic and quick. The gauntlet enhances his physical abilities and he can fire sharp spines from his finger tips that can take out an opponent. He can electrocute ppl at excruciating measures. Lastly, he has the ability to turn anyone/living organisms into an Evo with a simple tap. He can create an entire army with it. He was even powerful enough to absorb and control the full Meta Nanites at will if only they weren’t designed to obey Rex. Van Kleiss is a Genius-lvl intellect and was one of the creators of the Meta Nanites, so he can just make more.

He only got vaporized when he first met Rex, they both weren’t familiar with each other. And ur acting like Van Kleiss getting sliced by the BFS makes him pathetic or whatever, the BFS can literally slice nanites which are microscopic so he can literally slice anyone into pieces with ezz, even Shiggy

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@eathantom30x11: absolutely nothing suggest the sky slider is near jetray. My point is Rex can't and won't keep the block party active the entire fight.

Shigaraki only needs 1 hit and rex dies and he WILL land it

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Rex should be able to block Decay with Block party and his feats with trading blows when ben during the crossover are more enough to say he has superior stats

Rex should stomp even in Base

Giant Mecha Rex would finger flick him

Omega Nanite Rex passively solos almost all of Anime

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Shigaraki slams and evaporates

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#36  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: Base Rex has fought Ben 10 without using his secondary modes, nor did he use his omega builds and combine his machines. And Rex kept up with Xlr8 with Rex rider when they were racing back to save Holiday. Rex has defense mechanisms if smth is off with their user. Rex can’t die either bc his nanites will act on its own to heal/revive/restart his heart during extreme situations. And if somehow Rex gets touches by decay, Rex will be injured but his nanites will act on its own to heal and build new machines during extreme situations to save Rex. The defense mechanisms with his Rylander Omega1 Nanite can do all sorts of things if the decay spreads towards Rex. He can explode as a huge bomb too. Rex survived the Nanite explosion at age 10 and the explosion was so powerful it can be seen from space. Rex can’t be mind controlled or be infected by any type of virus bc his nanites heal/save him instantly.

The Base Rex that fought Ben 10 will give Shigaraki trouble and Rex didn’t even use his secondary modes/Omega1 builds/combining builds. Imagine Base Rex using it against Shiggy, Rex can slice him into bits of pieces with ezzz using BFS, Battle Saw, and His Omega1 Bad Axes!! That fight against Ben 10 shows Rex’s superior stats, even tho he didn’t use a lot of his other powers

Remember this is only Base Rex we talking here. Omega form Rex will make Shiggy in deep trouble and God Mode is blinking Shiggy out of existence

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@eathantom30x11: Did you watch the fight? He used the blast caster(an omega build) on Ben.

XLR8 isn't jetray. And none of the forms ben used against rex would stand a chance against rex. It's a literal plot point from the block party episode that Rex can't survive disintegration.

Shigarki tags rex ONCE and that's it

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#38  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: he didn’t use it to actually attack him, he used it to restrain him bc he wanted to cure Ben, thinking he was an Evo so he used Evo curing on Ben and not actually hacking it. Rex could’ve easily used his secondary mode for Blast caster and vaporize Ben with electricity. And even that, what abt his other builds? Plus his secondary modes? and he didn’t combine any of his machines nor did he use his evo or omega form.

Rex also overpowered diamondhead when hitting him flying thru the air and crashing to tons of vehicles and diamondhead actually overpowered Vilgax from Ultimate Alien. Rex overpowered Humangasour and he’s strong enough to throw objects all the way to space while laughing it off. Ben and Rex fought Alpha Nanite and it’s stated to be equals with Rex’s Omega nanite. Rex also fought mutated and stronger versions of Ben’s aliens due to Alpha hacking his ultimatrix and transforming into them.

Rex can’t die either bc his nanites will act on its own according to the situation to save him instantly. His rylander Omega Nanite can heal instantly. Van Kleiss tried to absorb Rex and disintegrate his entire body but he survived that and that was a weak version of Rex.

Rex can easily slice Shiggy into bits of pieces with his BFS, Battle Saw, and Bad axes. And even if he touches Rex, he can amputate the area affected by decay before it spreads to his body but even then his Nanites will easily heal him/revive by then. The Base version of Rex that fought Ben will be a problem for Shiggy. Base Rex held way back against Ben for not using secondary modes/Omega builds/combining machines and Ben held back too for not using his other aliens, but imagine Base Rex using it against Shiggy lol.

Again, this is only base Rex we discussing, if this is abt Omega1 form, All Evo form, and God Mode, Rex is winning.

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@eathantom30x11: Rex was overpowered by humunugasaur not the other way around. Absolutely nothing suggest rex can't be killed and he's been KO'd several times.

Shigarki has borderline instant Regen, can tank city level attacks and again has instant disintegration. Meaning he only has to touch rex directly ONCE and rex dies. It's a plot point of the show that he can't survive disintegration.

Base rex gets stomped.

God rex does the stomping

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#40  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: first off, Rex was not overpowered by Humangasour bc he got several hits on him and when he restrained him with the Blast Caster, he didn’t vaporize Humangasour with electricity. Rex has fought mutated and stronger versions of Ben’s Aliens too, due to Alpha hacking Ben’s watch and turning into his Aliens with unstable nanites. Rex being Ko’d was an early weaker version of Base Rex that didn’t even have the Omega Nanite yet, nor did he know how to activate it. Van Kleiss was actually the one who kinda showed Rex how to use it properly, informing him what other capabilities he has with it. And the Creator Duncan confirmed Base Rex can take out all of Ben’s non cosmic aliens, so we know how powerful Base Rex is lol.

Base Rex had gotten way stronger at the end of the series, and his Rylander Omega1 Nanite is stated to being able heal/revive and build new machines during extreme situations if he’s losing in a fight and yesss, this is stated by the creator of both shows. Rex survived Van Kleiss absorbing and disintegrating a weaker version of Rex. His Nanites saved him countless times already such as the Nanite Explosion the size of a country when he was only 10. And again if Rex is touched by decay, he can amputate the area affected by decay before it spreads to his body, but then again his nanites will heal him instantly. Rex’s Nanites are sentiment and have all sorts of defense mechanisms if smth is off with their user. For example when Alpha tried to absorb Rex, his nanites had defense mechanisms and caused a huge explosion to separate the two of them

Both Ben and Rex fought Alpha Nanite and Alpha had insane regeneration when his limbs and body were chopped off and Rex can do the same too bc it’s stated the Alpha Nanite and Omega Nanite are equals. The Base Rex that fought Ben is giving Shiggy problems bc he held way back against Ben for not using secondary modes, combining machines, and Omega1 builds. Rex can chop Shiggy to pieces yk that? With battle saw, BFS, and Omega1 Bad axes, those can slice easily thru microscopic nanites. Rex’s block party can deflect and block Shiggy’s decay, even his Bad axes can defend against it bc it has the same energized atoms on it.

Finally, Base Rex’s versatility is backing him up here. For Full Evo form and Omega1 form Rex, he does the stomping. God Mode With the Dominion Code is also stomping big time!

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@eathantom30x11: rex was losing the first fight to BASE Humungasaur which is why he switched tactics.

Rex got consistently overpowered by the evo aliens.

Rex's biometrics have explicit stamina limits (pointed out during the crossover) and the omega nanite can only give him more nanites. He himself can still be killed.

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#42  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: he was not getting overpowered by Humangasour smh, he got hits on him in the beginning and switching builds to fight doesn’t mean he got overpowered, he could’ve stunned him easily and his intent was to cure him bc he thought he was an Evo. Rex was not tryna attack him anymore. Rex overpowered DiamondHead too, plus his other Aliens and Diamondhead defeated Vilgax from Ultimate Alien. Lodestar was supposed to be a counter attack for Ben but got blitzed instead. Rex could’ve easily hacked Ben’s watch if he knew Ben wasn’t an Evo. When he touched Ben’s chest plate, he used Evo curing instead bc he thought Ben was an Evo. If he used technopathy, it would’ve been game over.

Well the Evo Aliens are far more powerful than Ben’s Original Aliens bc it was Alpha Nanite controlling them with unstable nanites. Rex and Ben were getting overpowered but like I said, they both didn’t go all out in the crossover.

The crossover isn’t the end of the series Rex and thats not just what the omega Nanite does. It give’s Rex unlimited amount of Nanite creations at will, it makes his builds a lot more powerful, and it heals him instantly and the nanites are stated to be able to heal/revive him and also making the right kinds of machine’s during extreme situations. His nanites have defense mechanisms. The creator even stated that smh 🤦‍♂️ Duncan also stated Rex has this ability bc he’s got more builds in his notebook that were never displayed so we know Rex has this ability. Duncan stated the way he designed Rex was supposed to have this ability where he can counter any attack from Ben’s aliens during extreme situations. The creator of both Ben and Rex just confirmed Base Rex can take out all of Ben’s non cosmic Aliens🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

At the end of series, Rex’s nanites again have shown they have defense mechanisms again if smth is off with their user, no wonder Rez turned into his full Omega1 form when he was fighting the combined power Mech of the 5Demi gods.

At the end of the series, Base Rex overpowered Hunter Cain, Gatlocke, Valve, and Noface at the same time while fighting and curing Evos for 24 hrs nonstop and also only resting for 55 mins.

Base Rex can match Shigaraki due to a lot of counters he has to his decay attack. Evo form and Omega1 Form is stomping. God Mode is stomping as well !!!

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@eathantom30x11: so rex switching after getting overwhelmed isn't getting overpowered but diamond head switching is valid?

Ben was nerfed during the crossover (no ultimates) rex wasn't.

Rex outskilled the demi 5 he didn't overpower them. AND HE STILL GOT KNOCKED OUT. Which you falsely claimed didn't happen post omega nanite.Do to his builds being mechanical they don't actually get stronger.

Rex has 1 counter to decay in the block party. Which he can't maintain and doesn't save him if shigaraki touches his actual skin

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#44  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: Rex didn’t have to switch, him and Humangasour were both trading blows. He switched bc he wanted to cure Ben. He used Evo curing on diamondhead and not bc he thought Ben was an Evo. Both of them were nerfed. Rex didn’t use majority of his Omega1 builds on Ben, he didn’t combine his builds simultaneously, and he didn’t use any of his secondary modes. Doesn’t matter bc Rex fought Ben again in the Reboot and he was winning the fight too, and he actually hacked Ben’s Omnitrix.

And Rex had a strategy that allowed him to overpower all of them at once, they all combined their powers into mech bc they couldn’t handle Rex at Base. They even stated that they were getting their butts handed to them, that’s why Black Knight insisted to combine their powers. And they didn’t ko Rex, Rex s block party tanked hits from the combined power of their mech until the entire build fell on him. And guess what? The defense mechanism arrived when his nanites turned him into his Evo Omega1 form and Rex defeated them afterwards, separating all of them. Again, the creator of Ben 10 and Generator Rex confirmed Base Rex can defeat all Ben’s non cosmic aliens!!!!

His Rylander Omega can heal him, the same type of healing for Alpha Nanite bc their both stated to be equals. Rex’s nanites have saved him from viruses, knock out gas, and more etc. his nanites will revive/heal him instantly if they sense a threat coming. His most powerful builds came from the Rylander Omega1 Nanite. His nanites were designed to heal him and save humankind, the nanites proved to save Rex’s life twice: fully healing him and restarting his heart after an almost fatal industrial accident when he was young. He survived the Nanite explosion when he was 10 and he was the only person to survive the Space-Elevator.

Shiggy didn’t even kill Aizawa with it bc he amputated the area before the decay could spread his body. Shiggy touched his arm in season 1, and he got out of it. And in season 6, he touched his face with all five fingers. Aizawa doesn’t even have the healing factors/defense mechanisms that Rex has, huge diff!

Rex can slice Shiggy into pieces with Battle Saw, BFs, and Bad axes. Rex’s combat drills can literally drill Shiggy to pieces too, the same drill he used against Quarry

Base Rex can defeat Shiggy. Full Evo from and Full Omega1 Rex stomps Shiggy. God Mode Rex with the Dominion Code can just use Space-time and freeze Shiggy in time.

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Shigaraki is island level and hypersonic.


Does Rex have anything against that???

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#46  Edited By eathantom30x11

@ultimateasskick: Base Rex is abt Country lvl at best and he’s hypersonic as well!

God Mode Rex is complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben 10 verse.

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@eathantom30x11: his healing isn't instant. He was knocked out after getting wrecked by the consortium and he explicitly can't come back from being disintegrated so shigaraki touches him once he's dead.

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#49  Edited By eathantom30x11

@edgelord91: Rex’s nanites have the same exact healing as the alpha. An early weaker version of Rex survived being absorbed/disintegrated by Van Kleiss.

And Shiggy didn’t kill Aizawa with it. He touched his arm in season 1 and he managed to get out of it with a knee to shiggy’s stomach. In season 6, Shiggy touched him with all 5 fingers to the face but Aizawa amputated the area befroe decay could spread his body. The creator of the show Generator Rex stated that Rex’s nanites will act on its own to save his life/heal him and build right kinds of machine’s during extreme situations. That’s why when Rex fought Quarry, his nanites automatically built the block party to counter his attack when he was losing.

Rex only got ko’d bc he fought the combined power Mech of the 5Demi Gods. They turned into a huge mech with 5 Master Control Nanites and it was a mismatch. And after that he turned into his Omega1 form and defeated the 5Demi gods and was healed after. Shiggy himself isn’t ko’ing Rex xddd. Rex can slice Shiggy into pieces with BFS, Battle Saw, Combat drill, and Bad axes and he’ll be dead.

The creator of Ben 10 and Generator Rex said that Base Rex can defeat all of Ben’s non cosmic aliens, Shiggy can’t even do that lol

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@ultimateasskick: no I’m not talking abt his Base form, Full Evo form, or Full Omega1 form. His God Mode Form with the Dominion Code is complex multiversal due to the cosmology of the Ben verse.