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Duo: Juubito + Juudara

- Juudara has 1 rinnegan, god tree absorbed

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Naruto blitzes and one shots twice.

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@mattyboi said:

Naruto blitzes and one shots twice.

like he did against Jigen? wait...my bad that didn't happen.

On topic Madara pretty much low to mid diff here

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Madara stomps easily

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@mygod000 said:
@mattyboi said:

Naruto blitzes and one shots twice.

like he did against Jigen? wait...my bad that didn't happen.

On topic Madara pretty much low to mid diff here

seriously?... this is just 1 rinnegan madara. he's losing to adult naruto, who has grown much stronger since then. he was already pretty relative to him in power as a teen. that's why i slapped juubito in there

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@themingebaron66: I'd say Teen Naruto was relative to if not above 3 eyed Madara. Could be even stronger seeing how well he did against Kaguya(who was confirmed to be FAR above Madara and over 2x his strength.)

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@mattyboi said:

@themingebaron66: I'd say Teen Naruto was relative to if not above 3 eyed Madara. Could be even stronger seeing how well he did against Kaguya(who was confirmed to be FAR above Madara and over 2x his strength.)

i highly doubt teen naruto is relative to 3 eyed madara. both him and sasuke as a tag team couldn't even stop 2 rinnegan madara, once madara got his 3rd eye without the PIS naruto and sasuke woulda got finished imo.

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i highly doubt teen naruto is relative to 3 eyed madara. both him and sasuke as a tag team couldn't even stop 2 rinnegan madara, once madara got his 3rd eye without the PIS naruto and sasuke woulda got finished imo.

If you read the fight again him and Sasuke hardly ever engage him at once and the 1 time they did Madara nearly instantly got sealed if anyone had PIS its Madara tbh pulling out his ability to switch with his Limbo out of his ass

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i highly doubt teen naruto is relative to 3 eyed madara. both him and sasuke as a tag team couldn't even stop 2 rinnegan madara, once madara got his 3rd eye without the PIS naruto and sasuke woulda got finished imo.

If you read the fight again him and Sasuke hardly ever engage him at once and the 1 time they did Madara nearly instantly got sealed if anyone had PIS its Madara tbh pulling out his ability to switch with his Limbo out of his ass

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If individually they were 3 eyed madara level or beyond, why did they tag team on him? that doesn't make sense. i'd say they're stronger then 1 rinnegan madara but thats about it.

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Naruto stomps

Idk why anyone would bring jigen in to this when he doesn’t scale to either madara or obito lol

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#12  Edited By NotCensored

If individually they were 3 eyed madara level or beyond, why did they tag team on him?

They didn't, they actually took turns on him and the one time they did attack him at the same time they nearly won on the spot, they aren't there to prove they as individuals are stronger than Madara they're there to save the world

that doesn't make sense. i'd say they're stronger then 1 rinnegan madara but thats about it.

Bruh Naruto literally stalemates 2 or 3 (its arguable since you can argue he had the 3rd Eye ever since absorbing the God Tree) Eyed Madara's Limbo's (who are equal to him) with his Shadow Clones easily and then goes on to fight relatively equal to Kaguya who's literally leagues above Madara by Sasuke's own words

Madara literally has nothing to suggest he's stronger than them

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#13  Edited By TheMingeBaron66

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Madara literally has nothing to suggest he's stronger than them

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Naruto and sasuke has nothing to suggest that they're stronger then dual rinnegan madara either. if naruto alone was fighting madara, he would've lost, because he was holding off the limbo clones however meteors were coming down at the same time. and naruto couldn't do anything about that because it was clear he was struggling with the limbo clones. thats why sasuke had to jump in and deal with the meteors. that's just dual rinnegan madara, once madara gets the third eye it becomes pretty clear to me he's stronger then them both individually.

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@themingebaron66: the thing you saying he can’t do he does he sends the clones to deal with the limbos then starts chucking bijuu rasenshurikens

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Naruto and sasuke has nothing to suggest that they're stronger then dual rinnegan madara either.

Naruto literally matched Kaguya on his own multiple times who's leagues stronger than Madara

if naruto alone was fighting madara, he would've lost,

Based on? He's literally faster, stronger and has the necessary stuff in his kit to get around all his hax

because he was holding off the limbo clones however meteors were coming down at the same time. and naruto couldn't do anything about that because it was clear he was struggling with the limbo clones.thats why sasuke had to jump in and deal with the meteors.

No him and Sasuke both dealt with the meteors he just sent some clones to keep the Limbo's off his back he was still dealing with the meteors along side Sasuke as well not to mention if the Alliance wasn't their they won't even need to worry about the meteors they're literally irrelevant to the duo

If Naruto wanted he could literally pull out 2000 clones and rat pack Madara and the man couldn't do a thing

that's just dual rinnegan madara, once madara gets the third eye it becomes pretty clear to me he's stronger then them both individually.

No it doesn't because thats the exact Madara that Sasuke said gets eclipsed by Kaguya its never made clear that hes stronger either he has nothing to suggest it

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@themingebaron66:

i highly doubt teen naruto is relative to 3 eyed madara. both him and sasuke as a tag team couldn't even stop 2 rinnegan madara, once madara got his 3rd eye without the PIS naruto and sasuke woulda got finished imo.

Well Naruto's shadow clones stalemated limbo clones. I'd say he'd be above Madara though since he was able to fight Kaguya and rip off her arm.

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#17  Edited By TheMingeBaron66

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Naruto literally matched Kaguya on his own multiple times who's leagues stronger than Madara

What?? not once has naruto matched kaguya on his own "multiple times." infact i'll just make a topic about this

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Naruto oneshots.

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What?? not once has naruto matched kaguya on his own "multiple times." infact i'll just make a topic about this

Bruh he literally matched her chakra arms with his own (albeit barely), over powered her with Boil Release and rag dolled her into a mountain, ripped off her arm with a chakra arm, and severely damaged her with 9 RS so yes he did match her Kaguya's stronger obviously but Naruto's relative which is more than you can say for Madara

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It's a hard fight, but Naruto could take it. He isn't stomping simply because of their crazy durability and the fact that Madara is superior in every category except raw stats.

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Madara solos. Adult naruto isn't above him and it's incredibly doubtful he can even sense limbo anymore since he couldn't sense a person shrink

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#23  Edited By UltimateSage

Juubito is low tier here, and 1 eyed Juubidara loses mid diff at best.

inb4" naruto got wEaKer dur"

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@mattyboi: @themingebaron66: current Naruto is deff not in his prime litterly didnt train for years. Naruto is not stronger than 1 eyed madara at all. Madara has the 10 tails plus the rinnegan.

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@undre: Naruto has 10-11 years+ of training before he became hokage. This is definitely prime Naruto, especially since he's above FUSED Momoshiki, who in base is above Kaguya. The ten tails nor rinnegan will help Madara here. Naruto makes a shadow clone to fight Madara while he sits at his desk at work.

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No version of Naruto is above Fused Momoshiki, and Momo is not above Kaguya. As far as the series goes, there are only two individuals above Fused Momoshiki, Kaguya and Jigen. Anyone else gets taken out eventually.

One eyed Madara gets bodied mid-diff. Juubito gets outright blitzed and murdered.

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@mattyboi: @azureus: Naruto isnt blitzing anyone lol. Jubito,Naruto and madara should be relative in speed. We seen obito and kage react to 6 paths madara. We seen DMS kakashi sakura and obito keep up so6p Naruto.

So blitzing is out of the question. In terms of strength there all relative aswell.

Charka and stamina Madara and obito takes it by alot. Naruto would just get overwhelmed by CT and obito spamming jubi bombs.

Boruto Naruto is weaker. Kurama calls him rusty in the fight against jigen and shin. Naruto got fatigued after a few resangans in his fight with delta. Ect he is but a shell of his former self. Momo is nit above kaguya especially not in base XD. Kaguya litterly blew jigen in half pre god tree amp.

So team takes it due to more stamina and overwhelming Naruto

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#28  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

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@mattyboi: @themingebaron66: current Naruto is deff not in his prime litterly didnt train for years. Naruto is not stronger than 1 eyed madara at all. Madara has the 10 tails plus the rinnegan.

What do you refer to as Prime ?

adult naruto has other half of kurama now and 50% of his power matched fused momoshiki who would give 1 eye Juubi Madara a run for his money.

Teen SPSM Naruto was already stronger than 1 Eye Rinnegan Juubi Madara and Teen Rinnegan Sasuke wrecked him. Hokage Naruto using both halves of Kurama + SPSM should be a good deal stronger than that same Sasuke n should be able to replicate the feat with pure speed and superior scaling.

Its like you are holding 1 eye Juubi Madara on a pedestal Completely forgetting he was blitzed n crushed by Teen Rinnegan Sasuke with chidori. A stronger enhanced version after he absorbed the entire Tree at that. While pre Tree 8 Gates Gai took all his power to make 10 tails pre tree Madara almost be defeated. Hokage Naruto scales above all 3 of these guys.

Even tho hokage lacks the tsb Hax he should still scale higher than his teen version in chakra level, combat scaling, n experience at least With ashura mode 3 headed Kurama excluded of course

But on Topic:

Hokage Naruto can speedblitz and smack them around through higher scaling but he has no way to permantely put them down due to his lack of tsb unless he can still use magnet release from shukaku

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@undre said:

@mattyboi: @azureus: Naruto isnt blitzing anyone lol. Jubito,Naruto and madara should be relative in speed.

Lol, naruto is beyond juubito and madara w/ 1 rinnegan in terms of strength and speed. 2 rinnegan madara was basically stalemating naruto.

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@themingebaron66: XD one rinnegan smack Naruto and sasuke a few times. 2 rinnegan is the same speed really it just has more charka.

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@undre said:

@themingebaron66: XD one rinnegan smack Naruto and sasuke a few times. 2 rinnegan is the same speed really it just has more charka.

madara landed barely any shots on naruto w/ 1 rinnegan, stop talking rubbish you wanker.

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#32  Edited By MattyBoi

@undre:

Naruto isnt blitzing anyone lol. Jubito,Naruto and madara should be relative in speed. We seen obito and kage react to 6 paths madara. We seen DMS kakashi sakura and obito keep up so6p Naruto.

Naruto is above teen Sasuke in speed, who literally blitzed 1 eyed Madara. So Juubito is fodder speed wise.

So blitzing is out of the question. In terms of strength there all relative aswell.

Again, Juubito is fodder here. Strength wise: Juubito and Madara are also fodder.

Charka and stamina Madara and obito takes it by alot. Naruto would just get overwhelmed by CT and obito spamming jubi bombs.

Juubi bombs would tickle Naruto, lol. CT is fodder aswell.

Boruto Naruto is weaker. Kurama calls him rusty in the fight against jigen and shin. Naruto got fatigued after a few resangans in his fight with delta. Ect he is but a shell of his former self. Momo is nit above kaguya especially not in base XD. Kaguya litterly blew jigen in half pre god tree amp.

Sure, he may be rusty compared to his prime(which isn't shippuden btw), but he's more than strong enough to kill this duo, in fact he never even got weaker, his fighting senses just got dull. Naruto was heavily holding back against Delta so I don't see what your point is there. Kaguya blew him in half off screen while he was off guard, it's implied she could only do this while he was off guard. Likely suppressed too, since Isshiki doesn't go around at full power all the time, not sure what this has to do with the duo here though.

So team takes it due to more stamina and overwhelming Naruto

Naruto takes it due to far superior strength and speed.

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@themingebaron66: XD one rinnegan smack Naruto and sasuke a few times. 2 rinnegan is the same speed really it just has more charka.

By smack you mean his limbo caught naruto off guard first time cos he didn’t know it was initially there ?

Naruto clones later sealed same limbo n later his clones were fighting even powerful limbo clones the dual Rinnegan juubi madara limbo clones since his clones didn’t disperse.

Sasuke Blitzed and wrecked post tree 1 Rinnegan juubi madara. Saying Hokage Naruto who scales higher than that same Sasuke isnt stronger than 1 eye Juubi Madara post tree isn’t debatable.

Its amazing how much you lowball the adults.

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@themingebaron66: XD one rinnegan smack Naruto and sasuke a few times. 2 rinnegan is the same speed really it just has more charka.

madara landed barely any shots on naruto w/ 1 rinnegan, stop talking rubbish you wanker.

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Inb4 hokage naruto is stronger then his EOS self because of non canon novel scaling and him being older.

He has nothing going for him and purely anti feats

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#36  Edited By TheMingeBaron66

Inb4 hokage naruto is stronger then his EOS self because of non canon novel scaling and him being older.

He has nothing going for him and purely anti feats

Gotta be kidding me

Adult Naruto has both halves of Bijuu Mode and Adult Sasuke has better experience n control over his Rinnegan.

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Duo stomp.

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Inb4 hokage naruto is stronger then his EOS self because of non canon novel scaling and him being older.

He has nothing going for him and purely anti feats

XD Naruto fans cant comprehend this

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@mattyboi said:

Naruto blitzes and one shots twice.

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Imagine thinking the novels are non-canon cause they debunk your trash scaling lol

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@undre said:

@themingebaron66: XD one rinnegan smack Naruto and sasuke a few times. 2 rinnegan is the same speed really it just has more charka.

By smack you mean his limbo caught naruto off guard first time cos he didn’t know it was initially there ?

Doesnt matter hes fighting 2 plp at once the number of times he got caught off guard by sasukes rinnegan he knew nothing about.

Naruto clones later sealed same limbo n later his clones were fighting even powerful limbo clones the dual Rinnegan juubi madara limbo clones since his clones didn’t disperse.

No both him and sasuke put down the clone. And okay madara clones would have won either way since they dont disappear after a certain ammout of damage.

Sasuke Blitzed and wrecked post tree 1 Rinnegan juubi madara. Saying Hokage Naruto who scales higher than that same Sasuke isnt stronger than 1 eye Juubi Madara post tree isn’t debatable.

No re-read the manga hes busy putting in his other eye. Had 0 concern for sasuke.

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Its amazing how much you lowball the adults.

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#43  Edited By RDCDesmond  Online

@undre: Teen Rinnegan Sasuke wrecked 10 Tails Tree Juubi Madara. This is Self Debunking.

Madara would not allow someone to chop in in half if he’s faster. Also Sasuke didn’t teleport to Madara he ran there sheer speed and blitzed Madara before he could fly away or use Kamui.

Sasuke is clearly the stronger one in this scene. Stop riding 1 eye Madara when he was literally sliced in half like my tomatoes when I make a salad.

Madara has enough time to make a statement that Sasuke is fast but not enough time to dodge ?

Like I said self debunking. Pre Dual Rinnegan juubi Madara never even got the upper hand at all against the duo. You have no proof that Madara wouldn’t of got his shit kicked in if he hadn’t stole the Sharingan from Kakashi.

N their power would have to be comparable enough to cut off a part of him let alone slice him in half in the first place.

Also this is 1 eye Juubi Rinnegan Madara post tree not Dual eyes. So don’t know why you keep bringing up dual Rinnegan to save your hide when it is irrelevant to this thread.

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#44  Edited By NotCensored

@azureus said:

No version of Naruto is above Fused Momoshiki,

In the Manga Naruto literally bodied him, in the novel its stated they're equal to him while weakened mind you and the Anime is pretty much the same as the novel with them going back and forth with him in weakened states

and Momo is not above Kaguya.

Sasuke literally outright implies that Kinshiki and Momoshiki are the ones Kaguya was prepping for in every medium, Urashiki was monitoring Earth the entire time and knew that Kaguya got sealed by her sons so they knew what Kaguya was like at the height of her power and still thought they could slap her and bring her back easily, Kaguya even wrote a scroll agreeing with them

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^This is the novel written by Kodachi which is still in continuity and is basically translating what Sasuke said verbatim that Kaguya literally can't compete with the duo without outside help and there's no reason to assume he's any weaker in other mediums when the same general statement from Sasuke is in all of them or that Kodachi as inexplicably changed his mind out of nowhere

As far as the series goes, there are only two individuals above Fused Momoshiki, Kaguya and Jigen. Anyone else gets taken out eventually.

Adult Naruto and Sasuke are on that list as well when they aren't weakened and Kaguya isn't stronger than him stronger than Base sure who cares but a composite of the two people who scared her shitless definitely not

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#45  Edited By Undre

@rdcdesmond: done with this debate you keep bringing up sasuke attacking a off guard madara. U ignore the fact madara is fighting them both at the same time.

One rinnegan jubidara was said to be comparable to hagromo. I dont wanna here no more headcannon

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madara solos. Together they stomp

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@themingebaron66 said:

What?? not once has naruto matched kaguya on his own "multiple times." infact i'll just make a topic about this

Bruh he literally matched her chakra arms with his own (albeit barely), over powered her with Boil Release and rag dolled her into a mountain, ripped off her arm with a chakra arm, and severely damaged her with 9 RS so yes he did match her Kaguya's stronger obviously but Naruto's relative which is more than you can say for Madara

With all due respect, this is a bit disingenuous. Naruto never matched Kaguya at any time. In his first clash against her, she broke through his tsb enhanced chakra arms and blew him back with ease. Boil release only managed to break through just one of her vaccum palms and send her flying-and this only happened because she wasn't expecting the counter attack. She literally wasn't any worse for wear afterwards.

His 9 bijuurasenshuriken never "severely damaged her". She was unharmed. She only morphed because of the bijuu chakra resonating with her and destabilizing her chakra. Cutting off her arm is PIS seeing as (1) she was weakened and depleted of chakra and (2) his strongest attack-the rasenshuriken barrage- failed to harm her.

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@undre said:

@rdcdesmond: done with this debate you keep bringing up sasuke attacking a off guard madara. U ignore the fact madara is fighting them both at the same time.

One rinnegan jubidara was said to be comparable to hagromo. I dont wanna here no more headcannon

Done

You are done because I proved you wrong

I proved individually Teen Naruto or Teen Rinnegan Sasuke >> Juubi 1 Eye Madara Post Tree

Naruto n Sasuke blitzed tree juuubi madara when they were about to seal him. Madara was suprised they appeared before him so fast they are implying here the duo are faster than Madara comprehension. So fast madara had to switch places with his limbo to escape from being sealed.

The statement of 1 eye juubi madara being Hagoromo equal is obviously flawed considering this statement was before Madara absorbed the tree and got other Rinnegan. That Madara was blitzed by Teen Sasuke who is only half Hagoromo power. So Madara at that point is still less than 50% Hagoromo power Through feats.

Your claim of Madara being “off guard“ is BS. He clearly saw Sasuke was behind him n had enough time to make a statement. It isn’t that he was caught off guard but Sasuke was so fast n so close to him Madara couldn’t dodge him. N his durability couldn’t do anything against Sasuke chidori.

For example Blind SM Madara was also “caught off guard” by EMS Sasuke but due to his superior speed managed to dodge Sasuke despite being blind.

superior skills n feats >> bs n headcanon

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#49 CyberBlades22  Online

Team wins with high diff to extreme diff.

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#50  Edited By Kidolio

Naruto wins, he outnumbers them and outstats them.

Edit: Also can I just say how happy I am that more people can see how Madara wasn’t really winning against Naruto or Sasuke, like I’ve been saying that since I got on comic vine.