Adult Loki vs Adult Apocalypse

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#1  Edited By owie  Moderator

OK, everyone agrees that Kid Loki would beat Kid Apocalypse.

Apocalypse
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Loki
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But how about the adult versions?  (This is before they were both killed and reincarnated as kids, obviously).
 
Battle is the same as when they were kids:
They have an agreed-upon one-month contest to defeat the other.
They can win through personal direct fighting, use of manipulated minions and other people to achieve their goals, long-distance spells, long-distance weapons, whatever it takes to incapacitate, KO, or kill the other.  
 
Who wins, and how?  Please explain your answer, thanks.
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#2  Edited By owie  Moderator

Bumpety bump. 
 
No love for a Loki vs Apocalypse prep battle either? 
 
I honestly don't know which way this would go.  In a random encounter, I think Loki would take it. 
 
But they're both pretty good at prep.  They've both proven to be highly skilled at the long con (having had thousands of years of practice each) as well as the short term manipulation of individuals.  They both have a lot of resources at their hands, one in the form of Asgardian magic and the other in the form of Celestial tech.  They both have their weaknesses: Loki is a bit flighty and twee, and Apocalypse is a bit overly bullish and alpha-male. 
 
I think I would maybe go with Loki though; his manipulations often take him to higher levels of power (dealing with Mephisto, Hela, Odin, Surtur) and different planes of existence than Apocalypse, who usually deals with mutants (albeit sometimes high-end ones) on Earth.  So I think Loki could manipulate some more powerful entities onto his side than Apocalypse could for his.

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#3  Edited By Greendevil

@Owie: Kid Loki is a genius. Dude, he PUNKED Odin and Surtur. Imo he STOMPS!

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#4  Edited By D3athstroke

@Greendevil: hes not kid he has shape of kid and that was kind of a dumb idea

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#5  Edited By daak1212

@D3athstroke said:

@Greendevil: hes not kid he has shape of kid and that was kind of a dumb idea

Really? I thought he was a kid. To be fair he did change up his attitude as he is no longer evil, just falls into bad situations and gets caught at the wrong time.

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#6  Edited By owie  Moderator

@Greendevil said:

@Owie: Kid Loki is a genius. Dude, he PUNKED Odin and Surtur. Imo he STOMPS!

I agree. But this battle is now between the adult versions. (The kid version was a previous battle I did.)

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@D3athstroke said:

@Greendevil: hes not kid he has shape of kid and that was kind of a dumb idea

Really? I thought he was a kid. To be fair he did change up his attitude as he is no longer evil, just falls into bad situations and gets caught at the wrong time.

Yes, he is actually a kid. He has the shape of a kid, but his mind/spirit was also reborn anew.

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#7  Edited By Greendevil

@Owie: Grownup Loki Stomps even harder imo. When you make Lokies shit-list, your done for. Give him a month prep.......Its a STOMP in the making!

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#8  Edited By Edgeworth_11

did they not fight before? I mean Loki and Apocalypse?

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#9  Edited By owie  Moderator

@Edgeworth_11 said:

did they not fight before? I mean Loki and Apocalypse?

Yeah, in Acts of Vengeance, but it was interrupted with no real result, I believe. In any case, the emphasis here is on prep. Which one is better with prep? They're both experienced in making plans over thousands of years.

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#10  Edited By jeanroygrant

Adult Loki.

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#11  Edited By _Black

Loki is better with prep in my opinion.

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#12  Edited By yodagod

I have to go with Loki here. Apoc would probably try to work through minions, and build some tech. Loki would plan for that, and just show up with Norn Stones or an Infinity gem or something. Loki should win 8/10 IMO.

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#13  Edited By Bo88gdan

@jeanroygrant said:

Adult Loki.

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They already fought and it was just about equal.

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@_black said:

Loki is better with prep in my opinion.

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