Warlock's limitations are still relatively unknown. Beings with magic like abilities are really difficult to judge. I'd never say he "can't" beat anyone short of Eternity or the Celestials, but whether his victory is likely or not is another matter.
I'd say Warlock has a good chance against Thanos, but could also be beaten by him.
If I'm not mistaken, in their previous battles aren't they 1-1?
I know a lot about Cosmic Marvel. Thanos has simply done more. Better performance feats, better fight feats, etc. Adam is also inconsistent, displaying various levels of power, so its hard to truly get a grip on what he can do. I know of their fights, and while this may seems biased(and I understand stand its not the way to win a debate) I just don't care. Adam simply hasn't done as much as Thanos, end of story. Thanos wins.
You actually do see his silhouette of Adam Warlock. Whether Galactus ACTUALLY blasted him or, not, I don't know. But you see it here:
Nope, Adam teleported (or moved really fast) out of harms way and ended up on top of Galactus's head. He then convinced the other cosmic entities to help him stop Thanos.
Misjudgement from both side, barring the surving Galactus blast during Infinity Gauntlet saga, Warlock is actually weaker than Thor/ Hercules. Warlock has lost to thor twice (both under warrior madness), was rather convincingly losing against Hercules before Vision interrupted, Brute nearly beat him as well.
Adam Warlock physically is absolutely no match for Thanos.
However, had this been morals off and Warlock had his soul gem, which he lost during his resurrection in Annihilation Conquest 01 (2007) , he could have likely won against Thanos via soul manipulation. Without it Warlock has nothing in his arsenal to put Thanos down, Thanos has everything to rather handily put Warlock down.
Commenting on this thread because it was recently pointed out to be. Anyone who think current Warlock is above Thanos is just simply misguided.
Warlock, on his own accord, has never been Thanos's equal or superior. Magus is a different thing.
As per soul manipulation, its not Warlock's own ability but rather than ability anyone who has soul gem would have, something Warlock hasnt had for about 5 years now.
The latest installment of Thanos: Revelations, appears to indicate that an alternate reality Warlock is now the 616 Warlock. According to Thanos, he suspects he is more powerful than previous incarnations of Warlock.
However, the slate is open in terms of feats for Warlock, so still going with Thanos at this point.
so there's a new Warlock? And he doesn't have feats yet but Thanos sees him as a threat?
Yes. Unfortunately, I don't have any scans because I actually bought the hard bound TPB :).
*mumbles under breath: "....and there's no way I'm putting my perfect Revelations book on my scanner to make copies*
But, yes Thanos stated that he sees the new Warlock as more powerful.
That could be very interesting for future stories.
From the post here, It says "thanos sees Adam as more powerful". That does not mean he sees him as a threat...at least one on one. Thanos considers Adam a threat because of his ability to thwart his plans at times. In a one on one fight Warlock has never been a threat
From the post here, It says "thanos sees Adam as more powerful". That does not mean he sees him as a threat...at least one on one. Thanos considers Adam a threat because of his ability to thwart his plans at times. In a one on one fight Warlock has never been a threat
Thanos specific words: "That is a different and, I suspect, much more powerful Adam Warlock than the one I am used to dealing with."
He may not have considered Adam Warlock as much of a threat, but his alter ego (the Magus) has always been a threat. And what the new Adam Warlock can do remains to be seen.
From the post here, It says "thanos sees Adam as more powerful". That does not mean he sees him as a threat...at least one on one. Thanos considers Adam a threat because of his ability to thwart his plans at times. In a one on one fight Warlock has never been a threat
@blackstaroblivion: He may not have considered Adam Warlock as much of a threat, but his alter ego (the Magus) has always been a threat. And what the new Adam Warlock can do remains to be seen.
Very true that thanos considers magus a threat. But this thread and the comic you mentioned are about Adam Warlock. People were using the word "threat" when that word was never used or implied in the comic.
@pooty: unless he had his soul gem or the power he retained from it, yeah?
Possibly. But the version with the soul gem was replaced by the most current version "Magic Warlock". Warlock(to my knowledge) never had soul gem powers without the soul gem
Adam Warlock was never a real threat to Thanos. They've appeared in tons of issues together, and it's always shown that Thanos is not just more powerful then Warlock, he's a LOT more powerful. Just because Warlock is seen by Thanos as more powerful, doesn't mean he's now greater then Thanos.
@pooty: After Adam came back to life because Death and her realm couldn't hold his soul, he awoke with the abilities of the gem; such as ability to manipulate souls and rip them from people when pushed to it.
He may not have considered Adam Warlock as much of a threat, but his alter ego (the Magus) has always been a threat. And what the new Adam Warlock can do remains to be seen.
Very true that thanos considers magus a threat. But this thread and the comic you mentioned are about Adam Warlock. People were using the word "threat" when that word was never used or implied in the comic.
The thread doesn't mention it, but I never said it did. What I mean, is perhaps Thanos considers Warlock a threat because of his alter ego in past encounters.
However, the context of the new book appears to indicate Warlock himself as powered up. But like I said, it remains to be seen how it will play out.
@pooty: After Adam came back to life because Death and her realm couldn't hold his soul, he awoke with the abilities of the gem; such as ability to manipulate souls and rip them from people when pushed to it.
Really? I missed that. Is current Warlock still the magic one? or is there a new version
@pooty: there's a brand new Adam Warlock but idk anything about it. Ive been trying to find out what I can but it seems he hasnt been in anything yet and the current 616 Adam is actually a more powerful alternate reality verison. So he will be the new Adam Warlock of 616. Anyway ive actually been more intrigued by Thanos' recent beating by Starlord. Albeit Peter had the Mandalay gem, but he's always got something up his sleeve.
@supermanwithatan01: Mandalay Gem. Marvel is always coming up with a item that's more powerful then the last one. it's celestial tech from what i hear. I have not read any of the legendary star lord. is it any good?
@pooty: haha exactly my thoughts. Thanos was written well in it. Clever and regal but still kind of scary. I like the aspect of Peter being as sly as Thanos but acknowledging he isn't as smart. It works as a story when you see Thanos' own power against himself amped by the gem. The story itself is fair but I'm not hooked by any means. Not yet at least. As for Thanos, I just want him to have a more balanced nemesis that is equal to his badassery. I am hoping Marvel makes thst Warlock. Evening the ground. But we shall see
From the post here, It says "thanos sees Adam as more powerful". That does not mean he sees him as a threat...at least one on one. Thanos considers Adam a threat because of his ability to thwart his plans at times. In a one on one fight Warlock has never been a threat
I think people are misreading into what the story says. Thanos sees this Adam Warlock as more powerful than the Adam Warlock he is used to seeing, which is different from suggesting he is more powerful than Thanos himself.
Thanos has seen Warlock as a threat because he understands Thanos better than himself, but the story ventures into a different path showing Thanos and Warlock complete each other, their fates are intertwined.
Thanos and warlock truly seem to be friends,if it ever came down to a real battle.Thanos would win,but it would be close,cause Warlock seems to have any superpower he needs at the present time!
@galactus1967: I don't think Warlock just developed powers as needed. The only time I recall him doing that is when he turned Thanos to stone. Any other time Warlock has been beat down by Thor, Vulcan and Thanos. IMO . Warlock isn't a gimmick character. I do agree that the two have some weird bond.
@pooty: do you recall in infinity gauntlet,when Galactus blasted him with hid eye beams(which can kill a sky father level being).Warlock wound up on the top of G`s head unaffected.You might be right ,but sure seems to have any power he wants when he really needs it!
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