Adam(ROR) vs Jin Mori(GOH)

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#1  Edited By Yungbaby

All statements, scaling and feats allowed.

They start at their most powerful with all their gear.

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Adam is really strong. He is not this strong. Jin oneshots the verse.

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Jin one shots lmao

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#6  Edited By Morningstar999

Just wait for the only two/three dudes arguing for Universal Adam, who just gets blitzed and oneshotted.

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Just wait for the only two/three dudes arguing for Universal Adam, who just gets blitzed and oneshotted.

That is something I really doubt with Adam at his best

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#9  Edited By Morningstar999

@rac95: Well, initially Adam is not that fast. And Jin reaches speeds around millions to billions of times FTL, so here's that.

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@rac95: Well, initially Adam is not that fast. And Jin reaches speeds around millions to billions of times FTL, so here's that.

Normally not. But he copied and countered a hit coming at him in 0.0000000000000000000... seconds, before he had that speed. And Adam starts at his best, so he posesses that speed instantly. And since we have the all statements part, this fist is faster than time.

So full-power Adam + all statements is too fast and could basically copy Jins speed, since he already copied someone (Zeus) who at that point was superior to him

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Jin blitzes and one shots the fodder

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Jin isn't blitzing Adam. Adam snaps Jins neck with a single strike with a time surpassing punch

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If all statements and feats are permitted jin still stomps.

Turned off the universe with a kick.

Is considered 4D.

Can trounce Zeus who could lift constellations etc

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@superprimetime:

Statement is clear cut.

He turned off the universe. You attributing it to only lights doesn't matter.

And 4 dimensional being > universal zeus

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#20  Edited By KillianDuclark

@superprimetime:

Again where was it stated he turned off the lights?

He kicked.

Then it's stated he turned off the universe. That's it.

We are using statements not your head canon.

Next Zeus and Adam aren't the same in power. Adam lost after all. So best Adam gets is the claim by Zeus that he hasn't had this much off a thrill since the big bang.

Also, you do realize the initial energy from the big bang is finite, it's the chain reaction it's caused that's still expanding.

http://teacherlink.ed.usu.edu/tlnasa/reference/imaginedvd/files/imagine/docs/ask_astro/answers/980211b.html#:~:text=One%20ton%20of%20TNT%20releases,**53%20Megatons%20of%20TNT.

Meaning mori would be the only one with viable claim to the still expanding universe

So once again.

4D casual endlessly expanding universal being with a kick >>> universal+ being

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#21  Edited By TheWatcherKing

By the stipulations in this Adam wins

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#23  Edited By KillianDuclark

@superprimetime: you are really grasping at straws now.

Energy required to turn off a still expanding universe even for a micro second with with a kick >>>> tanking the initial energy released from the big bang and possibly finding it dangerous hence calling it "thrilling"

Lol. Adams fastest feat is explicitly stated to be stated to be reacting to an attack moving at a quintillionth (18 zeros) of a second. Sounds impressive, until you realize that's just 2x nanosecond (a billionth of a second). Meaning only about 2x the speed of light. I don't even have to dig up statements to prove Mori is a good deal above 2x the speed of light lol.

Lol. Face it Mori is still soloing the verse even with everyone allowed statements and Mori only getting feats

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lol Mori "turned off the universe" relative to the people on earth. They can't see the universe, they only saw everything go dark for a fraction of a second.

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@rac95: The main issue is the eyes of the lords secondary ability which allows Adam to dodge anything. As a result anyone in the GoH verse trying to harm him wouldn’t be able too as we know it can dodge attacks happening in 0.01 attoseconds and that was Zeus’s speed and Adam blitzed Zeus. From there the primary ability of copying attacks and performing them better then the original makes Mori’s skill and AP irrelevant.

Jin already beat someone with pre cog, and also beat someone who can copy all of his skills and to a higher degree, and they could also read his mind as well. So I don't see how any of that is relevant considering Jin beat people who do the same but to a much higher degree.

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@maalik: I know I should ignore you but your obvious bait is too tempting.

Read the OP. Statements are allowed. A statement is made that mori turned off the universe. Therefore in this scenario Mori is on that level.

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#28  Edited By Morningstar999

Jin still oneshots the verse. For now at least.

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@maalik said:

lol Mori "turned off the universe" relative to the people on earth. They can't see the universe, they only saw everything go dark for a fraction of a second.

The statement is hyperbole, but because OP stated Statements are allowed, then turning off the Universe is taken as literal

If the statement said "to everyone on earth" then yeah, but it clearly said Universe so because of the rules we take that as literal.

Otherwise we wouldn't use the statement at all

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That doesn’t even matter its the level of the precog that matters. Jin was capable of reacting to Dean who had precog.

Dean's Precog is above Adams though, as he legit is seeing into the future, as opposed to simply reacting

Where as Adam reacted to a guy that literally either froze time or if you don’t buy that reacted in 0.01 attoseconds at the last second.

Even at that speed Mori would be faster as he is thousands of times faster than light

Eitherway, Adam is simply too fast, and his eyes of the lord would make it impossible for Mori to tag Adam, to suggest otherwise would mean you’d have to prove Mori can travel faster then Zeus and he can‘t.

I don't think so, Mori out skills them to a ridiculous degree

And even the whole copied Mori’s skills that doesn’t matter, Dean didn’t even copy them that’s not his ability he trained, and was a genius he was just watching and imitating to say he can copy a skill as an ability is out of context. Adam actually copies a skill and does it better then the original.

I was talking about Satan, Satan can copy any attack and it's amplified

Adam evades, copies, blitzed and oneshots.

Mori would give him the Dean and Satan treatment

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@maalik said:

lol Mori "turned off the universe" relative to the people on earth. They can't see the universe, they only saw everything go dark for a fraction of a second.

The statement is hyperbole, but because OP stated Statements are allowed, then turning off the Universe is taken as literal

If the statement said "to everyone on earth" then yeah, but it clearly said Universe so because of the rules we take that as literal.

Otherwise we wouldn't use the statement at all

The statement was made by someone on earth though lol.

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@maalik: no it wasn't

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it was stated by the narrator

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Adam if we include statements

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@maalik: no it wasn't

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it was stated by the narrator

The narrator in this case was the people on earth lol. Like how do you go through episode 291 and screenshot that section without reading the prior panels?

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@maalik: Ahh yes everyone on earth as a collective said the exact same thing.

Narrator was explaining the peoples feelings as to what they just witnessed.

Common tactic in writing, you are reaching as usual

Why do you hate God of Highschool so much?

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@killianduclark: How does being "4-D" do anything for power at all? How is it even a feat?

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@enviid:

Can a two dimensional being. A drawing on a sheet of paper. Harm a three dimensional being a human?

Same logic here

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#47  Edited By gelato_exotic

@maalik said:
@infinitemass said:

@maalik: no it wasn't

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it was stated by the narrator

The narrator in this case was the people on earth lol. Like how do you go through episode 291 and screenshot that section without reading the prior panels?

All this^.

Keep in mind that in the same set of chapters, all these statements immediately got thrown in the trash when they made the same type of comment for a a few quintillion human sized bodies supposedly covering the universe even though it's common sense that in totality that's not even continental LMFAO. This stuff is purely just perspective hyperbole.

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Mori stomps though

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#49  Edited By enviid

@killianduclark said:

@enviid:

Can a two dimensional being. A drawing on a sheet of paper. Harm a three dimensional being a human?

Same logic here

That isn't how dimensions work at all.

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#50  Edited By KillianDuclark

@enviid: don't know what you think dimensions are, but this is the one am talking about

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimension#:~:text=In%20physics%20and%20mathematics%2C%20the,specify%20any%20point%20within%20it.&text=In%20classical%20mechanics%2C%20space%20and,to%20absolute%20space%20and%20time.

"High-dimensional spaces frequently occur in mathematics and the sciences. They may be parameter spaces or configuration spaces such as in Lagrangian or Hamiltonian mechanics; these are abstract spaces, independent of the physical space we live in"

My drawing analogy is explained further here

https://study.com/academy/lesson/2-dimensional-definition-shapes-art.html

Basically for a supposed 4D being like Mori, adam is drawing on paper