(AAS) Mission Match - Major_Hellstrom v. StormShadow_X

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#1 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (13019 posts) - - Show Bio

Armstrong Academy Scenario - Mission Match: ESCORT

This is a mission connected to the Armstrong Academy, a scenario in which participants are students at a school for superheroes. For more information and to read the story thus far, view the main thread.

Teams

Team A - Major_Hellstrom / Peyton & Raymond

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Peyton Jones (@major_hellstrom)

  • Body: Nightwing
  • Skillset: Composite Sherlock Holmes
  • Power: Hobgoblin's Laugh

Raymond Wright (NPC/TTBA)

  • Body: Ultimate Captain America / Cassandra Cain
  • Skill: Ultimate Captain America / Cassandra Cain
  • Power: Leech’s Power Negation

Team B - StormShadow_X / H.O.L.M.E.S & Max

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H.O.L.M.E.S (@stormshadow_x)

  • Body: T-850/800
  • Skillset: Detective Chimp
  • Integrated Technology: Robocop (Composite including Flight Pack & Left Gun Arm)

Max Champion (NPC/TTBA)

  • Body: Damien Wayne
  • Skill: Damien Wayne
  • Power: MCU Quicksilver’s Super Speed
  • Gear: Mumen Rider's Cycle

The Mission: Escort The VIP

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  • Team A begins at the location marked Back Traffic along with the VIP; a human scientist. They must bring the VIP to the Factory.
  • Team B begins at the Factory. They must somehow "take" the VIP from Team A and bring them to the location marked Back Flowers.
  • There are no other civilians in the arena/location.
  • Both Teams will PM me their first posts
  • Both Teams are aware of the others starting location.

Rules

  • Team Members may not attack one another; if they do, they are DQ'd.
  • Travel Speed is limited to Mach 1/Speed of Sound.
  • Victory is attained when one team has brought the VIP to the location they were assigned to escort to.
  • Players may KO or Incap fellow students; they may not use lethal killing blows.
  • Powers and Gear are limited to the same limits in the sign up thread. If you showcase power(s) or abilities beyond those limits (and are not an NPC) then you will be nerf'd mid fight.
  • Match outcome will be determined by hosts (TTBA & Lunacyde)
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#3 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (13019 posts) - - Show Bio

Round One: Initial Post for TEAM A

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Well, well, well, it's detective vs detective, entirely intentional I'm sure. Should be interesting. The plan for my team is like simple and very reactionary first of all, Peyton and Raymond would split off, Raymond would keep the VIP while Peyton works as a decoy, we would be taking this path (Peyton - blue, Raymond - green).

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As you can see, both Raymond and Peyton will be heading towards the same location but using different routes, Peyton would stick to the outside, in order to better gain the attention of potential assailants, while Raymond will go the indoor route. As you can see, Peyton's path intersects with Raymond's at two points towards the middle, this is to further confuse our opponents and can serve as rendezvous points if need be where we can switch the payload around.

Peyton vs Max Champion

If Max Champion were to fight Peyton or attempt to intercept him or Raymond in any way, he will be stopped easily. MAx's only advantage is speed but MCU Quicksilver isn't even that fast, he died pushing Hawkeye away from gunfiremeanwhile Nightwing dodges gunfire easily (again) even dodges shots from a sentry gun like the gun that would have killed Quicksilver. Also owns the second Captain Boomerang who had super speed. Sherlock's fight precog deduction technique can also make up for any gap in speed. Not like it really matters, Peyton's laugh is AoE and is powerful enough to take Hobgoblin down near instantaneously, to the point where he can't even stop himself from getting decapitated.

So if Peyton sees Max he just laughs and Max goes down, just like that. Would be even worse if he was mid-run/cycle as that means he would be forced to suddenly lose focus (as Spider-Girl says, the laugh makes it so she can't even think straight in the AoE scan).

Raymond bodies Max even harder, he negates powers, is even faster than Peyton and has better movement reading.

Peyton vs H.O.L.M.E.S

If Peyton were to come across H.O.L.M.E.S it might be a slightly more difficult battle but I still believe Peyton would win. First thing;'s first, Peyton would have the speed advantage just based on the fact that Holmes is in the cybernetic class which lowers the speed cap. There's also the lunatic laugh again which can be used to break metal construction beams

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So the laugh should be durable enough to damage opponents like Holmes physically. But even if Holmes is too durable, I haven't seen T-850s resist sonic attacks at least from the RTs, which is unfortunate as Hobgoblin's laugh can fry electronics as Hobgoblin does to Spidey's suit, he needed specific tech to counter this.

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Here is evidence that Spidey needed specific tech to take the laugh

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So yeah if we encounter each other you're going to go down.

Peyton vs Both

In the unlikely event that I have to fight both opponents at once, I'll just have to turn up the bass. Using AoE the lunatic laugh can incapacitate multiple targets

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His laugh causes blood to pour out off normal people, also hinted that he can kill with it but I'm not aiming to do that here for obvious reasons

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At full blast, he can vibrate the Hand to shreds,

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So he can take down the two of you at the same time, also would help that he can use his fight precog against multiple assailants at once.

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Conclusion:

Unless you have a specific resistance to high-level sonic attacks, you will be taken out with relative ease. Even if you can resist, the point is to take a VIP from one place to another so even if I can just distract you, that would be more than good enough.

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#4 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (13019 posts) - - Show Bio
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#5 Posted by TheTrueBarryAllen (13019 posts) - - Show Bio

Round One: Initial Post for TEAM B

Initial Strategy - The Robot and Speedster

The First meeting -

Staring at the beginning of the match Both Teams know where the others are currently, unfortunately we don't know where both teams extractions points are which is a negative for both teams. My team however (Team Hero) are both superior in travel capabilities and can be there in seconds due to my own flight pack and Max's superspeed. If you're out in the open I'll see you from the sky but if you're using the buildings for cover I have the capabilities to see heat signatures through structures .

There's no getting away or hiding from us. Now for the strategy of combat neither of our pairs of characters probably know too much of what we can do. Max may be the only one whose common knowledge due to the personality and tactics displayed during the entrance exam. Peyton and Raymond didn't flaunt there powers much ( the ladder wouldn't of had a way to without messing up other classmates) so what they can do isn't purely known to us. However tactically we can assume at the very least teachers didn't pair us up for matches we simply would steam roll through. Which is why H.O.L.M.E.S ( A bot made more for solving mysteries) and a speedster whose practically a glass canon) would choose to take a less direct approach at first.

The First Blow -

After H.O.L.M.E.S finds you ( He will), He'll be the leading distraction using his gun arm and incredible ricochet skills to keep you on your toes. Thanks to his targeting system he's not going to genuinely hurt either of you or the VIP. Even so his objective is just to cause an initial distraction.

Max will be take the signal of gunfire and start his own hit and run assault focusing on Peyton because from an outside perspective he looks less intimidating than his comrade and with his superior skill and stats (Via super speed) He'll quickly overwhelm him and if Raymond is forced to use his power Negation H.O.L.M.E.S is still in the air as support keeping Raymond on his toes while a (possible)disoriented Peyton is left to fight a still adept fight in Max. Either way the only way either of you are putting up a fight is if you drop the VIP and defend yourself

Initial thoughts on how and why Team Hero wins -

  • Both teams know where the other starts off giving both teams an advantage but seeing as how my team doesn't start off with the VIP this is more so an advantage for us on the offensive note.
  • If my teams were to get the VIP, we pretty much win due to our travel capabilities - My flight and Max's Speed. Your team from my understanding don't have powers of any kind to transverse the area like we can.
  • Both of Team Villains powers won't work on me at the very least as I have no "powers" to negate and no true ears or organic body to be affected by Hobgoblins Laugh.
  • Max is a speedster which can never be underestimated and the only counter to him being a major supporting nuisance is for Leech's powers to come into play which will also leave Peyton unable to use his Laugh in which case the only advantage he has over Max are stats which I feel won't be enough for Max to at least hold his own due to superior H2H skills and even if he did have his powers that means Raymond is negating anything and Max has his superspeed to do as he will.
  • Raymond is definitely the most dangerous person hero as his stats and skill could defiantly beat H.O.L.M.E.S in Direct combat but H.O.L.M.E.S has gear, ricochet skills, and a way to use his own advantages to hold his own long enough to get the VIP out. (I'll get more into this the next post)

I don't believe my team can stomp and it won't be as easy as I portrayed but I believe due to our supporting nature we can possibly outdo a much more combative team ( Well Raymond :p) and I didn't go into too much detail especially concerning Max but we'll see how my plan has to change on the go when in your own plan.

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#6 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (18100 posts) - - Show Bio

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The game is afoot

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Strategy vs Strategy

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Our strategies are thankfully straightforward, non os basically just me and Raymond splitting up whilst yours is just a simple distract and snatch tactic.

Unfortunately your strat barely applies due to mine, in fact I see the battle going like this.

Your team spots mine. Max goes after Peyton, which you said yourself specifically, while Holmes goes after Raymond (since Raymond has the VIP, it would be more reasonable). So I will be going about this with a 1v1 mentality.

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Counters

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After H.O.L.M.E.S finds you ( He will),

I should just reply to the whole first part of your post here, just by saying that yeah it won’t be difficult for you two to find us, given your abilities. But we never intended on hiding.

He'll be the leading distraction using his gun arm and incredible ricochet skills to keep you on your toes. Thanks to his targeting system he's not going to genuinely hurt either of you or the VIP. Even so his objective is just to cause an initial distraction.

Unfortunately both myself and Raymond are bullet timers. You’ve got one of the most famous bullet timing feats in comics by Raymond/Cassandra

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Meanwhile Peyton can dodge shots point blank after they were fired

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As for them being “trick shots” well Dick has dodged boomerang throws from Captain Boomerang Jr

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Boomerang can ricochet shots better than you can.

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Max will be take the signal of gunfire and start his own hit and run assault focusing on Peyton because from an outside perspective he looks less intimidating than his comrade and with his superior skill and stats (Via super speed) He'll quickly overwhelm him

I doubt it, while I am not as skilled as Nightwin, I do have the ability to read movements and deduce what my opponents will do next (as shown previously) which should be a decent replacement for Dick’s actual skills. However in terms of pure speed, I already showed Nighteing blocking hits from Owen, so here he is dodging a kick from Jesse, though she may have been holding back she is 10x faster than Quicksilver.

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Not to mention I don’t even need to dodge, just laugh. That would keep Max from going near me, cause if he does he goes down hard. And if Max is already in range then RIP.

and if Raymond is forced to use his power Negation H.O.L.M.E.S is still in the air as support keeping Raymond on his toes while a (possible)disoriented Peyton is left to fight a still adept fight in Max. Either way the only way either of you are putting up a fight is if you drop the VIP and defend yourself

Unfortunately this is assuming that this is a 2v2 battle but my strategy negates that possibility. Now, yes, if Holmes started firing at us we would be distracted but without Max there is no snatching the VIP.

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Potential Counters:

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”Well, Holmes and Max just 2v1 Raymond.”

if you go that route, it doesn’t matter. Raymond can still dodge gunfire easily and since Peyton isn’t there, Raymond just actives his power negating field so when Max runs in, not knowing that his power is about to get negated, he suddenly loses speed and smashes himself in the head. Really Max doesn’t add much, and you already conceded that Holmes won’t beat Raymond in CQC so if he attempts to sweep down to get the VIP he would get destroyed. Basically Holmes can’t get the VIP himself without exposing himself and Raymond’s power makes it impossible for Max to do it either.

Now, you could argue that Holmes shoots Raymond away 10 towards from the VIP, which is extremely unlikely, given how effortlessly Raymond can dodge bullets. But even if that extreme case happens, it would take time and Peyton is only an earshot away, Raymond and Peyton already agreed to signal each other in case they encountered an enemy so this Peyton would be there in a snap making it 2v2. Meaning even if Max runs in and takes the VIP, Peyton would just give a little “Haha” and Max would fall.

”Well, Holmes and Max goes after Peyton in 2v1”

I covered this in my first post. But even if Peyton goes down, then it would be 2v1 against Raymond which won’t work given your strategy due to the reason given above.

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Bottom Line:

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My strategy makes up for Raymond and Peyton‘s powers negatively which you mentioned more than once, asides from that Max is weak to both of us.

  • Both teams know where the other starts off giving both teams an advantage but seeing as how my team doesn't start off with the VIP this is more so an advantage for us on the offensive note.

A small advantage if any, more than made up for in the fact that having the VIP forces your team to attack us.

  • If my teams were to get the VIP, we pretty much win due to our travel capabilities - My flight and Max's Speed. Your team from my understanding don't have powers of any kind to transverse the area like we can.

My AoE is a good counter to speed, in order to get the VIP you’d be in range. I laugh at your attempts and you go down. Raymond has small AoE as well which is more than enough to shut down Max.

  • Both of Team Villains powers won't work on me at the very least as I have no "powers" to negate and no true ears or organic body to be affected by Hobgoblins Laugh.

Yet to be proven. I could just short out your systems unless you have a special defense. Even if you do, I can smash through steel grinders, needless you won’t be unaffected.

  • Max is a speedster which can never be underestimated and the only counter to him being a major supporting nuisance is for Leech's powers to come into play which will also leave Peyton unable to use his Laugh in which case the only advantage he has over Max are stats which I feel won't be enough for Max to at least hold his own due to superior H2H skills and even if he did have his powers that means Raymond is negating anything and Max has his superspeed to do as he will.

If Raymond used his powers Peyton would be unaffected as his range is only 10 yards and they split up. Also Max has no resistance against sonics and AoE is a known deterrent to speed.

  • Raymond is definitely the most dangerous person hero as his stats and skill could defiantly beat H.O.L.M.E.S in Direct combat but H.O.L.M.E.S has gear, ricochet skills, and a way to use his own advantages to hold his own long enough to get the VIP out. (I'll get more into this the next post)

Assuming there is someone taking the VIP out, but again, how does Max get past the laugh? Or the power negation? As I see it, he gets passed neither.

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My Advantages:

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  • My team has greater AoE
  • My team can literally negate one of your team’s characters, without speed Max is useless. Peyton could own him with his powers and Raymond bodies him in every way imaginable.
  • My team has the VIP and this dictates the battle
  • My plan is for Raymond to travel through buildings as stated, meaning your flight is limited
  • Peyton is friends with Raymond, while we aren’t good friends yet, it’s better than being strangers. Which is what I believe Max and you are.
  • Peyton has met Holmes as well, knowing his dimensions uo close and memorising them.
  • Peyton also memorized the stats of every character in the exam.

Overall not game changing advantages but my strat already trumps ours, this is just topping.

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Roleplay

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This is a role playing game, so I roleplay, lol. This i based how I think the battle will go but doesn’t reflect anything on the debate.

Peyton splits from Raymond after briefly discussing their plan of attack with their mentor. “What did I get myself into?” Peyton thinks out loud, lazily stroking his hair back. He commuted the map to memory, as he takes strides walking across the battlefield, he couldn’t help but read his surroundings, as if he on autopilot, he started scanning the land for various details, the crevices, cracks and scratches on the ground. The smell of the air, the feeling of the wind, the heat of the sun.

Suddenly, however, he saw a dust cloud forming at the distance as the outline of a cyclist started zooming towards him, his heart began to beat faster as his lethargy left him. He heard the crackling sound of a speeding race car barrelling towards him, his body began to tense up,

“That’s Max Champion, the speedster with 62 points.” Peyton remembers.

He attempts to laugh, opening his mouth for a laugh but his throat came up dry and nothing would come out. “Come on Peyton, not again!” He thinks to himself desperately. He takes a gulp as the threat draws even closer “Sir Knight!” He thinks.

“Sir Knight Sir, I can’t use my powers at will, I’ve got to laugh, I can’t laugh!” Peyton starts, thoughts wobbling in silent desperation.

Instantly the brave Knight responds "Can't laugh at will? Well, boy, we shall help you! Think of the silliest thing you can! A knight who put his boxers on last so he's wearing them on the outside! A lancer whose riding his horse backwards! A dragon whose scales are polka-dots! If that fails you then by Alkazar think of how funny it'll be watching your two foes on trash duty!!! Summon your laugh! A hearty bellow! Chuckle them into submission!"

Peyton exhales, expelling all the negative emotions with it. “Right.” He loses up, imagining a massive dragon with polka-dot scales breathing fire at a unicycle riding knight in his underwear. Peyton smirks, regaining the confidence he so quickly lost as he began to bellow with laughter.

Max Champion was close now, at this speed he knows that he can take the scrawny kid across from him with one blow But Peyton started to laugh heartily, an ear piercing laugh that could shatter arteries and cause the most tolerant man to scream.

Max began to wobble, and grimace, holding in the pain. But he couldn’t do it, he started shaking profusely, as his eyes rang harder and harder. “Aaaaarggghhh!” He yelled as he quickly drifted away from Peyton on pure instinct, he tried to make a U-turn, regain his balance, but he lost it and quickly found himself tumbling into a nearby wall with a mighty *CRASH*

Peyton begins huffing, as he bent down. “I-I did it!” He smiled, as he looks as his fallen foe from the corner of his eye.

“Hope He isn’t too hurt.” Peyton thinks as he eyeballs him in case of serious injury. “Well, that is one down. But if this guy is here then.........”

Just then Raymond begins to shout “Peyton!” “Peyton, remember when I said I wasn’t that good with robots? Well there’s a flying one right here!”

Peyton probably blocked out the sounds of Raymond’s voice with his laughter but now that he hears the screams he begins to dash to its source, “Raymond shouldn’t be far, as agreed.”

Peyton finds the source of the noice, as Raymond pants in-between gunfire in the middle of an empty building. Peyton peaks inside, seeing a flying robot in H.O.L.M.E.S “Holmes?” Peyton thinks, remembers back to when he meet the robot. “Didn’t know he could fly.” Peyton taps his chin, racking his mind for ideas, “What can I do? If I laugh I’ll take the two of them out before I can take out Holmes.” He bites his lower lip as he once again feels helplesss.

"Focus your laugh!” Sir Knight’s booming voice enters Peyton’s head. “Don't just laugh because you can! Laugh with a purpose! When you find that purpose you can focus your powers! They tell you normally to laugh with people, not at them, right? WRONG! Laugh at people when they make mistakes! In this case they made the mistake of facing you! Laugh at them!!!"

Peyton stares puzzled for a second, “Control the direction of my laugh? This isn’t some power I can control it’s a curse, I wouldn’t even be here if it weren’t for.....if it weren’t for....” He sighs as he remembers about what he did to his father. “But I can’t.” He thinks “I make a point of never having prejudices.” Peyton remembers the words of his favorite character, Detective Sherlock Holmes, ironically the same man who I opened his current opponent “Never trust on general impressions my boy, only concentrate on the facts.” Peyton remembers another quote from his idol.

He takes amembt to shake his body loose, “I don’t know this won’t work, and I will never know unless I try.” He decides. “Just focus, laugh at your opponent think of the sound waves.” Peyton concentrates, “Pink giraffes!” he finally thinks, summoning his laugh and then *HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!*

His thunderous laugh boomed from his lungs in a straight projective line, straight to his enemy.

The sound waves crashed with H.O.L.M.E.S pack and knocked him off balance, he began uncontrollably barrelling towards the ground to the delight of Raymond and the VIP.

(I’m assuming you can resist electronics getting fried for the sake of RP)

H.O.L.M.E.S lands on the ground with a metallic thud, looking up with his robotic eyes. Smirk responds with a smirk, pounding his fists together “My turn robot.” Raymond dashes towards the bot and begins dealing dancing around it and pounding it with his fists.

Meanwhile, Peyton charges at the VIP and grabs him, “It’s not far.” Peyton says as he makes a mad dash for the finish line while Raymond keeps H.O.L.M.E.S at bay.

H.O.L.M.E.S tries to fire a shot at the pair, as nuts and bolts fly into the air, but Peyton ducks below and slips away. Able to bring the VIP safely, winning the battle.

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#7 Posted by Major_Hellstrom (18100 posts) - - Show Bio