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Everyone's favorite soldiers of fortune are on their way to their next job to a place called "Gotham" after hearing word that a green-haired man has been using a chemical solution to give chickens teeth (and go completely, homocidally insane). So, they buckle up in get in their chopper, and they go off on their way.

Joker, through various hidden contacts, hears that a specialized team may be coming after him, but he knows nothing of their specific skills and identities. The clash in inevitable.

- In character for everyone, but everyone is fully willing to kill.

- Joker is still silly, but he's serious. Think Killing Joke or Arkham Asylum -- he wants these upstarts DEAD, so he isn't as likely to hit them with a partially-frozen trout as shoot them.

- Two weeks of prep for both, full equipment for both.

- Joker has nothing special to prove, and nothing holding him back.

- The A-Team will not let him off easy for being such a nutcase. When they find out how many people he's killing on a daily basis they'll take him as a very serious threat.

- The A-Team will get paid $2,000,000 to bring him down and shut out his operation.

Will their plan come together? Or will the Joker get the last laugh?

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#2  Edited By troller

A-Team send Mr T to stop Jokers' Jibber Jabber

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#3  Edited By Hero4life

Joker would destroy.

Complete Mind games to where they all shoot each other in the head.

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#4  Edited By Lasiurus

As Cracked.com once pointed out, the members of the A-Team never really shot anyone. they'd shoot around them, but even with this information coming from a comedy site, the point is that Joker I believe has the edge here. He's more likely to just smilex them, or actually shoot them, not shoot the ground and make them run away. I'm trying to say he'd actually kill them, not tie them up so they can improvise a cross between a flamethrower and a nailgun out of some old rubber bands, and a package of Oreo cookies.  Also Joker always comes back, if they do actually shoot him, even a headshot for the Joker is like a slap on the wrist. I'm not sure about hand to hand though. Sometimes Joker gets taken down pretty easily, other times he seems more than capable of holding his own, and seemingly losing more so because it's Batman he's fighting. 
 
>.> Wow I didn't know that level of bias was in me. I do like the A-Team, I just think Joker would win.
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#5  Edited By Joygirl

Bumpz!

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Really? So few?

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#8  Edited By daak1212

A-Team stomp, seriously did you not see that show? they're prep status is equal to that of Doom or Batman

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#9  Edited By _Psy_

Meh. The modern version would win, not sure about classic A-Team.

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@_Punk_ said:

Meh. The modern version would win, not sure about classic A-Team.

Classic is oh shit stomp

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#11  Edited By DedmanWalkin

This is spite, the Joker has outmaneuvered the entire plant before on a whim from a prison cell.The Joker should in most cases stomp whoever he is facing off against so long as he has some level of prep and he isn't fighting Batman.

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#12  Edited By willpayton

A-Team (old and new versions) were cool, but Joker wins.

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#14  Edited By Nefarious

The Joker.

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A-team Stomp Joker got nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Murdock Solos

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Joker.

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@daak1212 said:

A-Team stomp, seriously did you not see that show? they're prep status is equal to that of Doom or Batman

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#18  Edited By Doombot_666

The A-Team aren't unrelenting killers. They're as much about saving people as they are about getting the bad guy. The Joker would walk around with a dead-man trigger to a bomb wired to a hospital. When the A-Team disarms the bomb, the Joker would reveal that the dead-man would also detonate bomb rigged to an elementary school... Or something like that. Any victory by the A-Team, no matter how small, would come at a terrible cost. The Joker would delight in exploiting both the A-Team's (to him at least) rather flimsy morality and their greed.

The A-team don't really have secret identities. It wouldn't take much for the Joker to, say, go track down Baracus's mother and inject her with a slow-acting joker venom, the antidote to which he would administer only if Baracus did something for him. Everyone else's family? They're dead. Old war buddies? They're dead or receiving anonymous tips as to the whereabouts of convicted war criminals. Speaking of which, I don't think the Joker would be above simply calling the GPD if only to put them in a situation where's they'd have to kill cops or go back to prison.

Would the Joker stand much of a chance in a fire-fight with a bunch of ex-special forces operators? Nope. But, that's not how the Joker does things.

Edit: Okay, well they kind of have secret identities, but I maintain that it wouldn't take much for the Joker to find out who they really are.

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#19  Edited By Joygirl

Bumpz.

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A-Team would win fo sho.

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#21  Edited By ChaosBlazer

Mr T pities the fool....

I would post a meme, but hey, I don't want to bait the trolls or start a flame-war....

In all seriousness A-Team.

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@DedmanWalkin said:

This is spite, the Joker has outmaneuvered the entire plant before on a whim from a prison cell.The Joker should in most cases stomp whoever he is facing off against so long as he has some level of prep and he isn't fighting Batman.

This

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The Joker

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@DedmanWalkin said:

This is spite, the Joker has outmaneuvered the entire plant before on a whim from a prison cell.The Joker should in most cases stomp whoever he is facing off against so long as he has some level of prep and he isn't fighting Batman.

This

not that

The A-Team aren't unrelenting killers. They're as much about saving people as they are about getting the bad guy. The Joker would walk around with a dead-man trigger to a bomb wired to a hospital. When the A-Team disarms the bomb, the Joker would reveal that the dead-man would also detonate bomb rigged to an elementary school... Or something like that. Any victory by the A-Team, no matter how small, would come at a terrible cost. The Joker would delight in exploiting both the A-Team's (to him at least) rather flimsy morality and their greed.

The A-team don't really have secret identities. It wouldn't take much for the Joker to, say, go track down Baracus's mother and inject her with a slow-acting joker venom, the antidote to which he would administer only if Baracus did something for him. Everyone else's family? They're dead. Old war buddies? They're dead or receiving anonymous tips as to the whereabouts of convicted war criminals. Speaking of which, I don't think the Joker would be above simply calling the GPD if only to put them in a situation where's they'd have to kill cops or go back to prison.

Would the Joker stand much of a chance in a fire-fight with a bunch of ex-special forces operators? Nope. But, that's not how the Joker does things.

Edit: Okay, well they kind of have secret identities, but I maintain that it wouldn't take much for the Joker to find out who they really are.

the A-Team would find a way out, or maybe it'd just get to the point where Hannibal just up and shoots the clown

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This is one of those fights with no clear winner, each side could do a million different things to win, and you could make a million different arguments about it.

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This is one of those fights with no clear winner, each side could do a million different things to win, and you could make a million different arguments about it.

aren't battles like that the point of the forum?

@joygirl: this is actually a really great thread for the reasons listed above

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Aww, thanks.

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A-team. Joker's only alive because of the morality of the people that usually deal with him.

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@nickboxxycoleman:Nope, this is is blatantly wrong. Joker wins.

The ATeam have no counter to Joker Venom and the Joker won't be pulling his punches like with Batman so they giggle themselves to death.

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@nickboxxycoleman:Nope, this is is blatantly wrong. Joker wins.

The ATeam have no counter to Joker Venom and the Joker won't be pulling his punches like with Batman so they giggle themselves to death.

gas masks?

@joygirl said:

Aww, thanks.

thank you, if that comment was aimed at me

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Because Gas is the only way to get it into them? What's the A-Team to do when the Joker comes to the battle armed with little more than a detonator and a 4 course dinner?

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The A-Team with enough prep can defeat both TOAA and the Presence combind!!!!!!!!

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@diredrill: punch him and shoot the ropes holding the stuff above his head, make something to cancel the detonator signal

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@betatesthighlander1: When he tells them that the Detonator is a dead man switch, they won't touch him. That Detonator detonates a hospital or an orphanage or a school, he won't tell you which but it is likely all three.

First, how are they to know what strategy he is employing to create a jammer? Second, good dead man switches operate by sending a signal out at various intervals that deactivates the bomb. If you block the signal you detonate the bomb and you will have turned the A-Team into murderers of innocent women and children. They won't come back from that as no one can come back from that and the Joker will have won.

As they won't risk the bombs going off, they'll sit down to his dinner. He'll talk to them about something inane and they'll likely not touch any of their food expecting poison but the chairs will have been rigged with tiny injectors that give them a dose of the good stuff. As he continues his exposition, they slowly begin to laugh at his terrible jokes and then they find that they can't stop laughing. Eventually, the weakest of them dies as the other ones look on in horror as they succumb to the same affliction.

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@betatesthighlander1: When he tells them that the Detonator is a dead man switch, they won't touch him. That Detonator detonates a hospital or an orphanage or a school, he won't tell you which but it is likely all three.

First, how are they to know what strategy he is employing to create a jammer? Second, good dead man switches operate by sending a signal out at various intervals that deactivates the bomb. If you block the signal you detonate the bomb and you will have turned the A-Team into murderers of innocent women and children. They won't come back from that as no one can come back from that and the Joker will have won.

As they won't risk the bombs going off, they'll sit down to his dinner. He'll talk to them about something inane and they'll likely not touch any of their food expecting poison but the chairs will have been rigged with tiny injectors that give them a dose of the good stuff. As he continues his exposition, they slowly begin to laugh at his terrible jokes and then they find that they can't stop laughing. Eventually, the weakest of them dies as the other ones look on in horror as they succumb to the same affliction.

You are eeeeeevil.

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A-Team wins "i pitty the fool who says other wise"

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@betatesthighlander1: When he tells them that the Detonator is a dead man switch, they won't touch him. That Detonator detonates a hospital or an orphanage or a school, he won't tell you which but it is likely all three.

First, how are they to know what strategy he is employing to create a jammer? Second, good dead man switches operate by sending a signal out at various intervals that deactivates the bomb. If you block the signal you detonate the bomb and you will have turned the A-Team into murderers of innocent women and children. They won't come back from that as no one can come back from that and the Joker will have won.

As they won't risk the bombs going off, they'll sit down to his dinner. He'll talk to them about something inane and they'll likely not touch any of their food expecting poison but the chairs will have been rigged with tiny injectors that give them a dose of the good stuff. As he continues his exposition, they slowly begin to laugh at his terrible jokes and then they find that they can't stop laughing. Eventually, the weakest of them dies as the other ones look on in horror as they succumb to the same affliction.

again, I think the A-team could rig something uup to stop that sort of thing

Murdock's paranoia would stop that kind of trick from working on them

and again, all of this is presuming that The Joker can get them into his base, B.A. doesn't just tackle the guy and take the detonantor, and Joker manages to plant bombs

again, someone would have to plant those bombs, and face could pretty easily getall of those uys to blab the whole thing to him

even if your scenario does work as planned, Face would have already seduced Harley by then, so she'd probably intervene

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I just realized that you may think to have the A-Team simply copy the signal but the Joker will have encrypted it so that copying it without the right code will simply trigger it. But here is the crazy part, the detonator won't really be linked to anything but the A-Team can't prove it so they can't tale the chance. Good guys are so much trash to the Joker so don't expect any good guy who does not have ridiculous amounts of power to be anything more than a obstacle to him.

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@diredrill: again, what stops B.A. from just tackling the Joker, and Face from using his sdeduction skills to usurp Joker's empire?

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They either come to his base and sit down or they will be responsible for the deaths of dozens.

It is a Dead Man Switch, you can't touch him or his finger comes off the detonator and detonates the bomb. BA's strength is useless here. The A-Team can't do crap against a dead man switch.

You think that Face's charms will work against Joker Venomed Minions? Good luck with that.

Harley won't be involved as she is not listed here.

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They either come to his base and sit down or they will be responsible for the deaths of dozens.

It is a Dead Man Switch, you can't touch him or his finger comes off the detonator and detonates the bomb. BA's strength is useless here. The A-Team can't do crap against a dead man switch.

You think that Face's charms will work against Joker Venomed Minions? Good luck with that.

Harley won't be involved as she is not listed here.

hey, could you make your posts resonses to mine? I'm having a little trouble telling when your responding

just grab the guy from behind and keep you thumb on the switch while he's oin a headlock

I don't think taht's actrually standard for his goons. anyways, Joker would have to get his bombvs planted on the A-Teams watch to even start your plan

@joygirl:

can Harley be involved here?

also, how much do the two sides know when they prep for two weeks?

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#43  Edited By Joygirl

@betatesthighlander1:

Harley is not a part of this battle. She's her own character.

The A-Team know basically what's happening and that it must be stopped, and who is doing it. Actual details on Joker are fuzzy (e.g. "He's a madman!")

Joker knows next to nothing about the A-Team, simply that someone's coming to stop him.

Both sides can, however, use their prep time to dig up more info on their adversary.

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@betatesthighlander1:

Big words. How can someone be "ahead" when Joker can change his plan at any given time?

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@joygirl: just have to know all of his probable contingencies, even The Joker can only do so much without a little bit of planning

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@betatesthighlander1: You are going to have 4 people cover every hospital, orphanage, and school in Gotham? Good luck with that. Batman can't even do it and he has an entire team out patrolling the city and you are going to tell me that the A-team is better than Batman?

The Joker is faster than BA. The Joker was able to headbutt Ra's Al Ghul in front of Talia Al Ghul and get away with it before they could stop him. Did I mention he did all this while in a straitjacket? He then proceeded to murder 3 of Ra's armed guards while being unarmed. Damien Wayne once compared the Joker's fighting ability to Batman. He also took apart Ace who is a superstrong, superdurable, superfast android and the rest of the cybernetically enhanced Royal Flush gang by himself. The idea that BA will be able to grab Joker without him getting his bombs off is ridiculous.

The Joker has 2 weeks prep and he has access to all his gear so he can do whatever he needs to do to get the job done. Why do you think so many of Joker's goons are so willing to fight Batman despite his cripplingly good record against mooks? The Joker uses Joker Venom like a drug to keep them in line. We already know it can do this thanks to Last Laugh and the Chuckles.

Here is the kicker to all of this. The Joker is the one who set the A-Team up to come and kill him as a plot to lure in Batman. The A-Team are all just a cog in his overall plan to get Batman. As I said, the A-Team are just so much trash that the Joker can take out without much issue.

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@betatesthighlander1: You are going to have 4 people cover every hospital, orphanage, and school in Gotham? Good luck with that. Batman can't even do it and he has an entire team out patrolling the city and you are going to tell me that the A-team is better than Batman?

....yeah

The Joker is faster than BA. The Joker was able to headbutt Ra's Al Ghul in front of Talia Al Ghul and get away with it before they could stop him. Did I mention he did all this while in a straitjacket? He then proceeded to murder 3 of Ra's armed guards while being unarmed. Damien Wayne once compared the Joker's fighting ability to Batman. He also took apart Ace who is a superstrong, superdurable, superfast android and the rest of the cybernetically enhanced Royal Flush gang by himself. The idea that BA will be able to grab Joker without him getting his bombs off is ridiculous.

yeah, but B.A. would just lift Jokere aboive his head and throw him, Joker might be able to break his skin, but he's not hurting Barracus

The Joker has 2 weeks prep and he has access to all his gear so he can do whatever he needs to do to get the job done. Why do you think so many of Joker's goons are so willing to fight Batman despite his cripplingly good record against mooks? The Joker uses Joker Venom like a drug to keep them in line. We already know it can do this thanks to Last Laugh and the Chuckles.

I'm gonna have to request scans

Here is the kicker to all of this. The Joker is the one who set the A-Team up to come and kill him as a plot to lure in Batman. The A-Team are all just a cog in his overall plan to get Batman. As I said, the A-Team are just so much trash that the Joker can take out without much issue.

sop the Joker thinks until he finds out his entire plan was actually part of Murdock's

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The A-Team is better than Batman? I am going to need scans of them taking on gods among men and making them look like children or making Darkseid back down. Because until you do your supposition is crap.

He breaks BA's skin, he wins because the Joker Venom will get in. Remember, the Joker's blood is filled with Joker Venom and his highly toxic. Thanks for killing him for me.

During Last Laugh, the Joker uses his Venom to convert the entire prison population of the Slab in to Jokers. It is a process known as Jokerization and it works on everyone up to and including Grayven son of Darkseid.

Chuckles is the name of the drug that Maxie Zeus made using a stash of Joker Venom that he found. It was highly addictive and caused many overdoses.

Murdock has a beef with Batman so he sets up a fake 2 million dollar bounty on the Joker to lure in Batman?

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The A-Team is better than Batman? I am going to need scans of them taking on gods among men and making them look like children or making Darkseid back down. Because until you do your supposition is crap.

Batman is also beaten by people like Deathstroke on a regular basis, if you want to see the A-Team beat mercenaries, watch any episode of The A-team

(also, people like that don't happen to exist in that universe, not like Joker has eevr really ebaten a God either)

He breaks BA's skin, he wins because the Joker Venom will get in. Remember, the Joker's blood is filled with Joker Venom and his highly toxic. Thanks for killing him for me.

doesn't Batman punch open the Joker's face on a regular basis? I don't recall batman ever getting anything close to sick from that.

During Last Laugh, the Joker uses his Venom to convert the entire prison population of the Slab in to Jokers. It is a process known as Jokerization and it works on everyone up to and including Grayven son of Darkseid.

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? when did anything like that happen?

Chuckles is the name of the drug that Maxie Zeus made using a stash of Joker Venom that he found. It was highly addictive and caused many overdoses.

but did it actually amke anyone part of a gang?

Murdock has a beef with Batman so he sets up a fake 2 million dollar bounty on the Joker to lure in Batman?

I mean, it seems like something he'd try