Guy wrecks his shit.
7th Gate Guy vs EMS Sasuke
@grinningf0x said:
@limitlesssigil: it was one eyed Rinnegan SM Madara who fodderized Sasuke but let’s not forget that this same Madara beat
It was one eye'd Rinnegan Madara that beat him but he was still being fodderized by Blind Madara.
BM Naruto and this is after blitzing SM Naruto WHILE BLIND
Madara never beat BM or BSM Naruto (Extracting the 9 tails via Gedo Statue doesn't count), stop lying.
Tobirama
And oh I don’t know ALL THE OTHER TAILED BEAST
so Sasuke loosing to this Madara isn’t a bad showing for him
Yes, being severely overpowered by a Blind Madara is a bad showing.
if Sasuke can track Juubito he can track Gai
Awful logic with nothing to back it up. Juubito wasn't trying against Naruto/Sasuke as he was having conflicting thoughts (The fact that you ignored this shows that you're wanking)
Gai didn’t cause any damage to Juudara and had to be saved by Minato , Lee, and Kakashi. How in the fuck is that contention ?
Even doing this much against Juudara already puts him leagues above EMS Sasuke
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Maybe you shouldn’t call people wankers until you get your own wanking under control.
Maybe you should actually learn to debate with feats other than your own biased opinion.
@grinningf0x said:
@limitlesssigil: I legit LOLd at your post
I chuckled at yours
SM Naruto got blitzed in chapter 657 and that’s BEFORE blind Madara gets SM. blind SM Madara then goes on to actually get tagged by EMS Sasuke and even compliments his skill. Maybe you should read the manga before calling people liars. If it’s a bad showing for Sasuke then it’s an even worse one for Naruto who unlike Sasuke actually took damage.
Madara let his sword go through his arm, you can't actually be serious....
He compliments Sasuke's eyes since they're just as good as his.
You realize how much stronger BM/BSM is compared to SM right? SM Naruto getting fodderized literally means nothing, in-fact it kind of means EMS Sasuke is closer to SM Naruto as oppose to BM/BSM. Also, Madara could have easily demolished Sasuke, he even remarks how it would be a waste to kill him.
Post the scan that says Obito was holding back in that fight. The only thing I found was Obito say he wanted to make Naruto despair.
It's not direct, but it's obvious to anyone who has a reading age above 10, literally no other way you can interpret their fight, but since I'm so generous, I'll break it down to a level you can understand.
About Gai why don’t you post the next two pages that show Juudara without any damage and Gai flat on his ass?? Probably because it doesn’t help your “argument”. Gai had to Kamikaze himself using his strongest attack ( in the 7th gate of course) and dealt NO DAMAGE. 7th gate Gai didn’t contend with Juubidara , he basically blew himself up and had to be saved.
Because those next pages are irrelevant, making Juudara surprised and even worried at some points is extremely impressive, more so than anything EMS Sasuke ever did.
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Again, the fact that Juudara even bothered to dodge his attacks and was genuinely shocked is impressive enough to put him above EMS Sasuke.
Good day wanker
Why are you so angry lmao, I just respectfully debunked your entire argument, the least you can do is respectfully concede and cry in a corner in your own time.
@whatamiseeing said:
Sasuke stomps. Sasuke creates a complete V4 Susanoo and there is nothing Guy can do.
Heavily fatigued Guy did this to Madara's Susanoo which by feats has durability much greater than Sasuke's
Raikage is faster than 7G Guy and sasuke could react to him. Sasuke covers himself with enton and nothing Guy can do he loses his arms and legs
Based on?
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil: He hit madaras susanoo
Launched Madara's Susanoo a good distance (While heavily fatigued)
which doesnt mean anything. Kisame got hit with Afternoon tiger and was fine shortly
Why are you lying, Kisame was one shot by Hirudora
after he couldve kept fighting and did later on
No he didn't, he committed suicide, lie again.
and his durability does not compare to even V1 susanoos.
Based on?
Susanoo has a shield to absorb all the possible damage.
Sasuke's Humanoid Susanoo has no shield
Raikage was stated to be the fastest this includes 7 gated guy
Things change, by that logic Raikages faster than 8 gated guy aswell.
After reading your post I have concluded, that you know next to nothing about Naruto.
@limitlesssigil said:
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil: He could react to 8G guy, Night Guy and SM minato, 7 gates guy is nothing to him.
I never claimed 7 gate guy was equal to Juudara like you're implying, I'm simply saying that 7th Gate guy wasn't fodderized by Madara as much as a One Eyed Rinnegan pre-10 tails Madara fodderized EMS Sasuke.
He’s surprised how fast guy is thats all, did Guy hit him no he didnt and Afternoon Tiger was casually stopped.
Juudara had to actually pay attention against 7th gate guy and was vividly shocked anything else is just your headcanon. Do you think EMS Sasuke would have done equally as well/better against Juudara? (Chances are you do)
It means everything once susanoo is made Guy cant do anything its over. Sasuke has the reactions to keep up with Guy
Based on?
all he has to do is cover himself in enton and guy cant do anything but AT which gets blocked by susanoo. But guy has no knowledge on enton
He was present when Sasuke used Amaterasu against Juubito so it's not like he's completely clueless about it.
so he dies to it since hes not raikage who could cut his arm off.
Raikage doesn't have any ranged techniques like Hirudora/Morning Peacock
I never said anything about the physical enhancements from kurama chakra im talking about the avatars.
Okay.
He was shocked at how fast Guy was because he didnt think he was that fast. Doesnt mean anything here.
Guy didnt do well. EMS sasuke wouldnt do well.
Sasuke can react to juubito who is much faster than Guy, mindless juubito was blitzing SM hashirama and Tobirama who have much better reactions than Guy. This faster juubito Sasuke could keep up with. Curse seal only helped the Susanoo and kurama chakra does not increase reactions hence why when naruto was fighting the 3rd raikage he switched to sage mode from KCM to improve his reactions.
Okay. His knowledge of amaterasu and enton is low enough to be tricked into getting hit with it.
AT and MP get blocked by susanoo
Also Sasuke can use Kirin if he needs to which Guy wont be dodging
@limitlesssigil said:
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil: He hit madaras susanoo
Launched Madara's Susanoo a good distance (While heavily fatigued)
which doesnt mean anything. Kisame got hit with Afternoon tiger and was fine shortly
Why are you lying, Kisame was one shot by Hirudora
after he couldve kept fighting and did later on
No he didn't, he committed suicide, lie again.
and his durability does not compare to even V1 susanoos.
Based on?
Susanoo has a shield to absorb all the possible damage.
Sasuke's Humanoid Susanoo has no shield
Raikage was stated to be the fastest this includes 7 gated guy
Things change, by that logic Raikages faster than 8 gated guy aswell.
After reading your post I have concluded, that you know next to nothing about Naruto.
And what if he launched Susanoo show me the damage done to it. Kisame survived so will sasuke with V1+ susanoo and hes likely to use V3 and V4
You missed the part where Kisame was about to move and got punched. He was ready to continue fighting but was stopped. After being hit he was able to break out of yamato's wood jutsu, perform a water prison and summon sharks. He was fully capable of continuing a fight but he knew he would lose so he committed suicide. I said couldve fought. You dont know what a lie is you arent comprehending what im saying to you.
The fact a blow from Tsunade would knock him out or make him cough up blood, or Big Ball rasengan would severely damage him, a pencil could cut him, he would get killed by double lariat. None of these things would effect V1 susanoo.
The circular bow can be used as a shield and you say I dont know anything about Naruto.
Things changed when Guy used 8gates not 7gates. People know about Guys 7gates and Raikage still said hes the fastest so hes faster than 7gates guy. Guy never used 8gates. Again and you say I dont know what im talking about when you cant understand something that simple
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil: He could react to 8G guy, Night Guy and SM minato, 7 gates guy is nothing to him.
I never claimed 7 gate guy was equal to Juudara like you're implying, I'm simply saying that 7th Gate guy wasn't fodderized by Madara as much as a One Eyed Rinnegan pre-10 tails Madara fodderized EMS Sasuke.
He’s surprised how fast guy is thats all, did Guy hit him no he didnt and Afternoon Tiger was casually stopped.
Juudara had to actually pay attention against 7th gate guy and was vividly shocked anything else is just your headcanon. Do you think EMS Sasuke would have done equally as well/better against Juudara? (Chances are you do)
It means everything once susanoo is made Guy cant do anything its over. Sasuke has the reactions to keep up with Guy
Based on?
all he has to do is cover himself in enton and guy cant do anything but AT which gets blocked by susanoo. But guy has no knowledge on enton
He was present when Sasuke used Amaterasu against Juubito so it's not like he's completely clueless about it.
so he dies to it since hes not raikage who could cut his arm off.
Raikage doesn't have any ranged techniques like Hirudora/Morning Peacock
I never said anything about the physical enhancements from kurama chakra im talking about the avatars.
Okay.
He was shocked at how fast Guy was because he didnt think he was that fast. Doesnt mean anything here.
Guy didnt do well. EMS sasuke wouldnt do well.
Sasuke can react to juubito who is much faster than Guy
Sasuke was enhanced with Sage Mode by Juugo, which massively amplifies physicals.
, mindless juubito was blitzing SM hashirama and Tobirama who have much better reactions than Guy. This faster juubito Sasuke could keep up with. Curse seal only helped the Susanoo
Sasuke doesn't have the Curse Seal anymore, it was removed during his fight with Itachi, Juugo simply gave him Sage Chakra.
and kurama chakra does not increase reactions hence why when naruto was fighting the 3rd raikage he switched to sage mode from KCM to improve his reactions.
Lies, Naruto used sage mode because he can use the Nature energy in the air which is kind of like a sphere around him to allow him to sense attacks he can't even see.
Okay. His knowledge of amaterasu and enton is low enough to be tricked into getting hit with it.
Headcanon
AT and MP get blocked by susanoo
Lol, Madara's susanoo by feats has much higher durability than Sasukes and Madara's was sent flying, Sasuke's Susanoo would break. Prove it wouldn't.
Also Sasuke can use Kirin if he needs to which Guy wont be dodging
A pretty much dead Itachi could react to Kirin and you think 7th Gate Guy can't? Make's sense....
OP Stated Guy can maintain 7th Gate meaning it's pretty much infinite, Sasuke can't do anything against constant Hirudora spam.
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil said:
@whatamiseeing said:
@limitlesssigil: He hit madaras susanoo
Launched Madara's Susanoo a good distance (While heavily fatigued)
which doesnt mean anything. Kisame got hit with Afternoon tiger and was fine shortly
Why are you lying, Kisame was one shot by Hirudora
after he couldve kept fighting and did later on
No he didn't, he committed suicide, lie again.
and his durability does not compare to even V1 susanoos.
Based on?
Susanoo has a shield to absorb all the possible damage.
Sasuke's Humanoid Susanoo has no shield
Raikage was stated to be the fastest this includes 7 gated guy
Things change, by that logic Raikages faster than 8 gated guy aswell.
After reading your post I have concluded, that you know next to nothing about Naruto.
And what if he launched Susanoo show me the damage done to it. Kisame survived so will sasuke with V1+ susanoo and hes likely to use V3 and V4
Like I've said many times, Sasuke's Susanoo isn't even half as durable as Madara's by feats, prove Sasuke would tank it.
You missed the part where Kisame was about to move and got punched. He was ready to continue fighting but was stopped.
He twitched his finger lmao, you're clearly biased, twitching your finger doesn't mean you're able to continue fighting.
After being hit he was able to break out of yamato's wood jutsu, perform a water prison and summon sharks.
Yamato's Wood Jutsu is weak
Zabuza could perform Water Prison and he doesn't have 1/100th the Chakra Kisame does
He was fully capable of continuing a fight but he knew he would lose so he committed suicide.
Headcanon, no way was he "fully capable of continuing to fight", stop being biased k thx.
I said couldve fought. You dont know what a lie is you arent comprehending what im saying to you.
If he could have continued fighting he would have instead of committing suicide, your argument is moot.
The fact a blow from Tsunade would knock him out or make him cough up blood
Never happened
or Big Ball rasengan would severely damage him
Never happened
a pencil could cut him
"A pencil could cut him", Yeah when it's thrown by Killer B and enhanced with Lightning Chakra. You're pathetic with your obvious lowballing.
he would get killed by double lariat.
He didn't die to double lariat, that was a Zetsu clone lmao, how clueless can you be.
None of these things would effect V1 susanoo.
Prove it
The circular bow can be used as a shield and you say I dont know anything about Naruto.
Show Sasuke using it as a shield.
Things changed when Guy used 8gates not 7gates. People know about Guys 7gates and Raikage still said hes the fastest so hes faster than 7gates guy.
Lol, proof the Raikage knows about Guy's 7th Gate?
Guy never used 8gates. Again and you say I dont know what im talking about when you cant understand something that simple
Again, I just thoroughly spanked you in a debate. Literally the majority of your arguments are just lowballing such as "Kisame was cut by a pencil".
@great_black_star said:
It was one eye'd Rinnegan Madara that beat him but he was still being fodderized by Blind Madara.
Show me scan of blind Madara fodderising Sasuke. You sure, you are not mistaking with SM Naruto?
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It's funny how you guys keep bringing up Madara blitzing SM Naruto, SM isn't even close to Naruto's strongest form, EMS however is Sasuke's best.
Madara never beat BM or BSM Naruto (Extracting the 9 tails via Gedo Statue doesn't count), stop lying.
Why?
Because he withdrew the Tailed Beasts, that hardly counts as defeating.
Yes, being severely overpowered by a Blind Madara is a bad showing.
Please do show proof of this claim of yours.
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Awful logic with nothing to back it up. Juubito wasn't trying against Naruto/Sasuke as he was having conflicting thoughts (The fact that you ignored this shows that you're wanking)
And same Juubito has blitzed Minato, Hashirama, Tobirama. While Sasuke has reacted and block same Juubito's attack. Later he was able to fight more calm and collected Juubito. It seems your own memory is messing with you.
As I've already said, Sasuke was enhanced with Juugo's Sage Mode during his fight with Obito so you can't even use those feats, not to mention Obito wasn't trying to win.
Even doing this much against Juudara already puts him leagues above EMS Sasuke.
LMAO. So Juudara amusing himself is a feat for you? OKAY.
@limitlesssigil said:
@great_black_star: Are you all incapable of reading?
Juudara showed genuine shock and surprise, that alone puts him above EMS Sasuke.
Also this is probably infinite 7th Gate Guy as per op. Sasuke die's horribly.
Dude stop, seriously just stop. Learn how to read first. Madara wasn't suprised to his speed but his hirodora. Everyone will get surprised at such technique, but that doesn't mean anything. That is not even a feat.
Headcanon
Madara didn't even care to use a limbo against Gai, which will foddrize gai. Madara was simply giving Gai to go 8th Gate so he can enjoy the fight.
Again Headcanon with nothing to back it up.
1. I am 100% sure now that you have no idea how to read a manga nor you have any idea on mechanism of Naruto characters.
Madara was using his sage mode's danger sensing to predict Sasuke's attack and was dodging his attacks. But Sasuke at bottom left panel, aim for Madara's landing attack with his thrust, which Madara couldn't evade but have to defend himself by letting his own arm get stab, thereby diverting the attack.
This particular pattern of diverting attack has happened so many times that, any regular Naruto reader should recognize this.
So, blind Madara even with Sage mode, didn't manage to score even a single hit on Sasuke while its the opposite.
2. Now you want to know why we bring blind Madara blitzing Naruto? EMS Sasuke managing to hit Madara is simply way too impressive.
Its no surprise that you don't know how impressive Hashirama's sage chakra is. Hashirama's sage chakra buff far exceed BM buff of Naruto. Yet Sasuke was still capable of fighting that Madara on par.
3. So, Madara incapacitating Naruto and forcefully extracting his own bijuu is not a feat? LMAO. You make it sound like anybody can do it. For your knowledge, Obito also had access to Gedo, yet he was trying his best to get kyuubi but failed.
4. Sasuke was never enhanced by Juugo. It was his susanoo that was enhanced. For your kind knowledge Susanoo is a jutsu just like rasengan. One enhancing rasengan with sage chakra will not enhanced the user's sensory ability. So no, Sasuke wasn't enhanced t all.
5. Madara was shock at Hirodora not Gai's speed, as the scan shows it. Gai has never manage to even land a single blow on Madara, and we are talking about same Madara who let Gai charge Night Gai, while laughing and commenting on Gai's chakra.
Do you think Gai can escape limbo? Madara used limbo on Sasuke, same will also fodderize Gai.
This is really sad.
@great_black_star said:
1. I am 100% sure now that you have no idea how to read a manga nor you have any idea on mechanism of Naruto characters.
Madara was using his sage mode's danger sensing to predict Sasuke's attack and was dodging his attacks. But Sasuke at bottom left panel, aim for Madara's landing attack with his thrust, which Madara couldn't evade but have to defend himself by letting his own arm get stab, thereby diverting the attack.
This particular pattern of diverting attack has happened so many times that, any regular Naruto reader should recognize this.
Like I've already said, I'm inclined to believe Madara let Sasuke's sword pierce him, up to readers interpretation.
So, blind Madara even with Sage mode, didn't manage to score even a single hit on Sasuke while its the opposite.
This is laughable, Madara himself said he had no interest in killing Sasuke yet, he let him live.
2. Now you want to know why we bring blind Madara blitzing Naruto? EMS Sasuke managing to hit Madara is simply way too impressive.
If you assume Sasuke actually had the speed to hit Madara which only a Sasuke wanker would do.
Its no surprise that you don't know how impressive Hashirama's sage chakra is. Hashirama's sage chakra buff far exceed BM buff of Naruto. Yet Sasuke was still capable of fighting that Madara on par.
No he wasn't it was so evident that he could have destroyed Sasuke as easily as he destroyed SM Naruto had he wanted to, but like I already said, he didn't want to.
3. So, Madara incapacitating Naruto and forcefully extracting his own bijuu is not a feat?
Madara never incapacitated Naruto, why are you continuously wanking, he knocked the 9 tails Avatar away with Limbo, Naruto then immediately got up.
Extracting the 9 tails is a cheap way to win that only Madara could do. Why would you count that as Madara beating BSM Naruto?
LMAO. You make it sound like anybody can do it. For your knowledge, Obito also had access to Gedo, yet he was trying his best to get kyuubi but failed.
Obito was using Madara's Rinnegans, not his own, it's likely he doesn't have nearly as much control over it as Madara does.
4. Sasuke was never enhanced by Juugo. It was his susanoo that was enhanced. For your kind knowledge Susanoo is a jutsu just like rasengan. One enhancing rasengan with sage chakra will not enhanced the user's sensory ability. So no, Sasuke wasn't enhanced t all.
Wrong, he enhanced Sasuke with Sage Chakra, who then enhanced his Susanoo with it. So yes he did get the Physical boosts.
5. Madara was shock at Hirodora not Gai's speed, as the scan shows it. Gai has never manage to even land a single blow on Madara, and we are talking about same Madara who let Gai charge Night Gai, while laughing and commenting on Gai's chakra.
The same Night Guy that Madara admitted almost killed him? Yeah....
He was shocked as soon as Guy opened the 7th Gate, again your downplay is ridiculous.
Do you think Gai can escape limbo? Madara used limbo on Sasuke, same will also fodderize Gai.
No I don't think Guy could do anything about Limbo, but Sasuke doesn't have Limbo so it's irrelevant.
This is really sad.
Your Sasuke wank is really sad, I agree.
@ourmanuel: @ourmanuel: does this look like a guy who cant continue fighting?
He was on the ground and was going to fight back but he got punched in the stomach, he was defeated doesnt mean he couldnt continue
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