Poll 616 Wolverine vs Fully adapted Zod (55 votes)
Fight takes place in Metropolis, 50 feet apart
No prep, but Zod has info about Logan
Win by any means
Fight takes place in Metropolis, 50 feet apart
No prep, but Zod has info about Logan
Win by any means
@dcandmarvelcomicfan: I don't think Zod in character would BFR the guy who's 4'2
Is there BFR?
"Win by any means"
Yes.
@dcandmarvelcomicfan: 4'1, my bad
@dcandmarvelcomicfan: does it matter?
@wolverinebatmanftw: The fact that BFR is the only way he can win should tell you that it’s not wank.
@christianrapper: Spider-Man, more often than not, greatly struggles to KO and put Logan down. The only times he outright owns him is when he’s spamming webbing (outside of outlier bad writing moments). Zod will get one-shotted by the claws and can’t put Wolverine down. It’s that simple.
@noone1996: zod is hundreds of times stronger and faster. His claws might not even scratch zod in the first place. Even if they can hurry him zod can just flatten logan before wolverine forms a thought.
When did I say that was the only way for Zod to win??
I suggested that as a possible outcome.
The fight would be fair if flight was disabled and speed equalized, but otherwise, Zod KOs or BFRs him without trouble.
@christianrapper: He’s not hundreds of times faster and a strength advantage doesn’t always guarantee a victory in a fight. Lmao at Zod not getting cut by adamantium claws. How delusional are you? He’s cut beings infinitely more durable than the shitty movie version of Zod like 616 Hulk, Colossus, Iron Man, Namor, Thing, Thor, etc. But in your DC biased mind, I’m sure DCEU Zod is more durable than all of them, right? Just as Logan’s pierced all of those characters I mentioned, he’s stayed conscious after being hit by them too just the same. Zod’s striking power, strength, and durability PALE in comparison to even the worst mid tiers Logan has faced. This unskilled and rash idiot is going to get his head cut off after mindlessly punching and hurting his hand on a guy that will heal just about as fast as he gets hit.
@wolverinebatmanftw: Well that suggestion isn’t even realistic as he’s never done anything like that in character. But no, he’s not going to KO Wolverine as his striking power is absolute shit in comparison to 616 characters and impacts that Logan has stayed conscious through.
Honestly, think I gotta go Wolverine with this one. After looking at his showings with Gladiator, Kid Gladiator, and Hulk (and Speed Demon), I think it’s perfectly feasible for Wolverine to tag Zod at least once. I don’t believe DCEU Zod is as impressive as some of these others, and while he could pull out plenty of victories, I think Wolverine has what it takes to wound him and get the upper hand.
If nothing else, Zoe’s gloating could get the best of him and Wolverine can feign defeat or lure him.
@noone1996: zod is hundreds of times stronger and faster. His claws might not even scratch zod in the first place. Even if they can hurry him zod can just flatten logan before wolverine forms a thought.
Did you just say Wolverines adamantium claws might not even scratch DCEU Zod? Are you trolling? His claws have cut comic versions of Hulk, Thor, Gladiator, Thanos, Mangog, all infinitely more durable than DCEU characters lol.
@underfire47: He's not joking. He's legitimately that delusional. His DC fanboy goggles probably make him believe DCEU Zod would beat 616 Thor or Hulk.
Stalemate. Zod has absolutely no way of killing Logan but Logan aint killing Zod because Zod isn't going to go brawl with some clown in a dumb costume when he realizes how much of a threat adamantium is. Zod would probably just fly off and continue with his terraforming Earth into Krypton mission, ignoring Wolvernine and anytime Wolverine came to fight Zod, he'd just fly away.
That's a loss than. He BFR'd himself.
Stalemate. Zod has absolutely no way of killing Logan but Logan aint killing Zod because Zod isn't going to go brawl with some clown in a dumb costume when he realizes how much of a threat adamantium is. Zod would probably just fly off and continue with his terraforming Earth into Krypton mission, ignoring Wolvernine and anytime Wolverine came to fight Zod, he'd just fly away.
@underfire47: do you know how Superman’s power works? He has a biometric aura. Zod is not those heroes. Also, does it matter if his claws can actually hurt zod when zod can basically kill him before logan forms a thought?
@christianrapper: @underfire47: do you know how Superman’s power works? He has a biometric aura. Zod is not those heroes. Also, does it matter if his claws can actually hurt zod when zod can basically kill him before logan forms a thought? According to the rules they are in a shared universe with reasonable knowledge. Zod isn’t going to stand there and let himself get skewered.
@underfire47: do you know how Superman’s power works? He has a biometric aura. Zod is not those heroes. Also, does it matter if his claws can actually hurt zod when zod can basically kill him before logan forms a thought?
You mean bio-electric aura? Biometric is something else entirely and i am aware of Kryptonians having bioelectric aura(although i haven't seen it ever mentioned in the movies) but you do know Superman and other Kryptonians have been pierced plenty of times before by powerful metals and weapons, just last week Kara was pierced by Nth metal and in fact she got pierced saving Superman from getting pierced and killed by the same weapon. It does not make them literally invulnerable and i don't care how much you are willing to wank DCEU or comic Superman but he is not more durable than guys like Thanos or Mangog who have tanked things that would vaporize Superman..
Where do you get the idea that Zod is that much faster than Logan? And how is Zod suppose to kill him, do you know how Wolverine works?
@christianrapper: Is DCEU Zod stronger, and can strike harder, than Namor, Colossus, Rogue with Ms. Marvel's powers, Wonder Man, Titania, Gorgon, Thor's clone, Crimson Dynamo, Red She-Hulk, etc?
@noone1996: can we cut all the is he stronger than character x? We know comics have PIS and it seems even villains hold back. All zod has to do is break wolvie’s neck. Remember that scan of the fight with spiderman at the graveyard people keep posting? Wolverine said it himself. He said that all spiderman had to do was break his neck to win. Zod can definitely kill Wolverine before he can react. A lot of other characters could too but they don’t because there would be no story to tell. Wolverine is no match for someone who has powers like Superman. Spiderman easily beats Wolverine all the time except that fight that I mentioned earlier. Heck, Wolverine has problems with deaspool. He isn’t beating someone who can fight at hypersonic speeds and can crash through freaking mountains. I love logan but come on. Zod can just stick his fingers through Wolverine’s eyes and rip out his brains in under a second.
can we cut all the is he stronger than character x? We know comics have PIS and it seems even villains hold back.
No, we can't. Just like I wouldn't ask you to ignore feats that scale from Zod to Superman. Logan can pierce high tiers, mid tiers, and street levelers. Zod has no piercing resistance to indestructible claws. If he gets hit by them, he's getting cut like butter. Using blanket statements about every feat you don't like being "PIS" doesn't make you right.
All zod has to do is break wolvie’s neck. Remember that scan of the fight with spiderman at the graveyard people keep posting? Wolverine said it himself. He said that all spiderman had to do was break his neck to win.
Logan making that claim is not proof of anything. How would he know if that would kill him? Has someone done it to him before? If so, how was he alive in that moment to confirm it? He was just guessing that that's what it would take. A statement isn't proof of anything. Just like Spider-Man's statement about Sentry stalemating Galactus isn't proof of anything either.
Besides, the dude has been vaporized into a skeleton before by explosions. To the point where his neck was obliterated. How did he stay alive in those scenarios if it's that easy to kill him? How does he ever survive massive impacts like Hiroshima's nuke, re-entry, getting smashed across states, punched out of orbit, or straight up hit in the head by strong characters without his neck breaking and him dying?
Zod can definitely kill Wolverine before he can react.
No he can't. What speed feats does he have that put him in a tier so high above Wolverine that he won't even know what happened before Zod kills him? Blitzing Superman? A guy who was also blitzed by a flaming train car, bullets, missiles, etc. throughout the same movie?
A lot of other characters could too but they don’t because there would be no story to tell. Wolverine is no match for someone who has powers like Superman.
Oh you mean like Gladiator or his son?
Spiderman easily beats Wolverine all the time except that fight that I mentioned earlier.
He beats him due to web incapacitation. Wolverine is not physically strong enough to break free of it. When it comes to Peter hitting the guy, he couldn't get him to stop smiling with "everything he's got":
So baselessly saying "Spider-Man always beats him" is out of context and lazy scaling. Zod could overpower Wolverine and hold his arms down to prevent him from slashing, however, not only does he need to get very close in order to accomplish that (unlike a long range attack like web spam), but it's not even an in character way for Zod to fight. He will punch, kick, bullrush, use heat vision, etc. He's not going to attempt to grapple with Wolverine. Even with knowledge. Even if he does, he'll get slashed. Same with a BFR attempt.
Heck, Wolverine has problems with deaspool.
More out of context scaling. Funny though how you think I shouldn't be able to scale Wolverine's performance against 616 mid tiers though. How convenient and not hypocritical at all. Deadpool has an immediate healing factor. Stabbing, maiming, and waiting for him to bleed out wouldn't work like it would on someone like Zod. That's why characters like Lady Deathstrike, Daken, Sabretooth, Omega Red, and many other characters with good healing put up a better fight against him than some mid tiers. It's because they can just heal right away from being stabbed or slashed.
He isn’t beating someone who can fight at hypersonic speeds and can crash through freaking mountains.
Good thing he never did any of that. Also I find it hilarious that you think "crashing through FrEaKiNg mountains" is an impressive durability feat that helps against his claws. Do you think there isn't a single person that I mentioned on post #29 that cannot do that? Yet he cuts them just the same.
I love logan but come on. Zod can just stick his fingers through Wolverine’s eyes and rip out his brains in under a second.
That's not an in character move, he hasn't displayed millisecond combat speeds, and how would that even kill him anyway?
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