616 Thing takes a full powered blast from the Deathstar, what happens?

Not likely.

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@karkus If anything, this is evidence of SS being planet level+

King Thor was also put down by a nuke for several pages

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So this is twice that an amped Thor has been overwhelmed by a Nuke. At this point I might create a "Respect Nukes" thread.

@karkus: Yeah.

Also, if we are showing low ends, then you have these:

Thing admits that a construction beam is heavy (Page 2). This is from the Thing Freakshow mini.

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He also struggles to hold a tiny ass Ferris Wheel in the same comic (though he does have a back wound at this point in the comic).

He can't one shot a monster that is one shotted by a mid-sized building droppes on top of it by Invisible Woman. I mean he has to resort to cars and buses, kind of implies that his punches aren't enough on their own.

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And we can't even hand wave this away as it just being Invisible Woman's own power. If she was so powerful (in this specific issue at least), then she wouldn't need to use that building in the first place (the weight of the building obviously plays a role. She even says that the building is sufficiently heavy).

And not to mention she struggles to hold up some rubble in the same exact issue. So, clearly the impact that one shotted that monster isn't all that much.

@starsprime3: Yup. Also needed an hour to bust through titanium doors.

@karkus said:

King Thor was also put down by a nuke for several pages

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So this is twice that an amped Thor has been overwhelmed by a Nuke. At this point I might create a "Respect Nukes" thread.

Do it.

I will help you with the DC characters if needed.

@karkus: There are also some statements in the comics themselves (Tony Stark putting 90s Hulkbuster strength at like 300 tons or so. Thing trainig with like 100 tons or less, Spider-Man saying Rhino is a 90 tonner etc.). But I didn't personally read most of those comics in question, so I can't say if they have context (they don't seem to tho).

And honestly, the Handbooks stats would also count as low ends, considering how consistent and explicit they have been for years. Marvel has been approving them for years.

@mysterymeat said:

@karkus said:

King Thor was also put down by a nuke for several pages

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So this is twice that an amped Thor has been overwhelmed by a Nuke. At this point I might create a "Respect Nukes" thread.

Do it.

I will help you with the DC characters if needed.

PM me whatever showings you have. Try to include the issue number too.

Well this is just ridiculous.

Come on, guys. Marvel high tiers are jokes. Thing was getting chunks taken off of him from a barbell by Shatterstar, Surfer was downed from a brick and was staggered by a city level gum ball machine from scaled multi country level Rhino, and Hulk got choked out by an anaconda and KO’d from Captain America. And still Daredevil couldn’t pressure point a Nuke and Ben falls pray to them.

Come on, guys. Come on.

But on the flip side, the Deathstar couldn’t tank 2 little laser beams from an old man whispering sweet nothings to a sandy orphan child flying a letter of the alphabet. Does it deserve to KO the limitless Thing?

@intentdetector: lol sure buddy you have never read a comic have you

@god_spawn: and then surfer tanks worse,they are inconsistent as hell.

Honestly the problem with "high tiers are below nuke is that the nukes on that Earth would be stronger because there are superheroes so the government will have to make nukes if they go out of control.

Dead. He's not planet level in durability.

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limitless thing? bro you are the last person who i thought will use the thing memes

@mysterymeat@starsprime3:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/respect-nukes-marvel-and-dc-comics-2125046/

@karkus: @starsprime3:This isn't a nuke but i thought it was amusing seeing as it was written by Stan Lee himself, but Thor gets knocked out by a Vietnam war era mortar shell

The characters have certainly moved up since then although they have had their low dealings with a nuke, it's funny to compare Hulk who in his earliest comic couldn't bust through a wall designed to tank a nuke for hours and hours on end but then less than a decade later he was one-shotting his way through bunkers designed to withstand several thousand megatons of blast.

Either way Peter David is validated in thinking everyone should pretty much die in a nuclear apocalypse, high-tiers should fear the power of the nukes.

@starsprime3: Didn't know you read marvel aswell

OT: the beam doesn't dare touch him and runs back to the Deathstar