616 Thing and Iron Fist vs Composite MCU Villain: Deathmatch to The Death

Rules

Thing and Iron Fist are bloodlusted, as well as their foe

MCU Composite has the powers of every existing villain in the MCU (apart from IG Thanos and ya boi Dormammu, the rest is fair game)

The Composite has 5 minutes of prep time in a standard science lab

Danny has the Iron Fist, and Ben is at his physical best

Takes place in New York, with each guy starting at the end of a street

No outside help, win by Death only

Takes place on a unbreakable planet (but can still be surface wiped)

Bonus round- Luke Cage and Human Torch decide to join the action, while the Composite gains the assistance of a DCEU Composite and CW Amazo to assist it

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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN THOUGHTS OR LIFE ADVICE? WHO WIN? WHO DIE?

Will Thing's new feats change things here?

Thing solos

So, a being that has the power of a Celestial, God, Titan, Ultron, Abomination, Dormammu and Surtur against Danny Rand and The Thing.

@johnsmjs36: Idk what you mean by "God" as there's no equal to TOAA in the MCU.

I wouldn't say the Celestials were villains but that's just me

If Dormammu and Surtur are fair game, then I don't really see the point of this.

@kevd4wg: How many durability feats does Dormammu have again?

@professorrespect: I meant the species. Wgo is a celestial and Asgardias are gods so. Ego and Hela are villains.

Imagine using that tag list

Thing solos.

Ben solos.

How does the composite villain NOT stomp? A composite of Hela, Surtur, Maw, Kaecilius, Ego, Loki and Thanos should be more than enough. And if you add in some of the villains from tv series like AoS this is spite.

Villain stomps with hax seems like people here are talking out of their asses

AOS Izel possessing flint tosses Ben into orbit. Or graviton can do it too

Beck's illusions (hah y'all slept on da boii) + Surtur's sword + Kaeclilalalala's magic + maybe Maw's TK should deal here. Hurting Ben will be the hardest thing, but Surtur'll get the job done.

Hela, is.MVP here for the villians winning. along with Surtur ego etc

@supremegeneration: Mysterio would be pretty effective tbh

Villains

Weak bait

Ben fingerflicks, Iron Fist can one-shot as well.

@professorrespect: can Ben or Danny take down Ego?

@kevd4wg: Why are you asking me when I obviously can't say yes or no?

How are they one-shotting Ego

@kevd4wg: considering these parts of OP:

The Composite has 5 minutes of prep time in a standard science lab

Takes place in New York, with each guy starting at the end of a street

Takes place on a unbreakable planet (but can still be surface wiped)

It seems like composite isn't planet sized like actual Ego and is supposed to be human-sized. So one-shotting it won't be troublesome.

So then wouldn't it just be the durability of a moon compressed into a human sized figure

How are they putting down Surtur combined with Hela and Ego ? Plus Beck's illusions which Ben and Danny have no way of knowing what's real and not, they get impaled by Surtur's sword.

People are forgetting that this composite being would also be an entire dimension as well ?. I’ve read maybe 40-60 FF comics, but I’m not aware of Ben ever punching his way out of a cosmic entity without form. Danny is a non factor here with all of those powers Ben either gets BFred or tormented by hax

Honestly Graviton is enough to solo Ben + Danny.

@kevd4wg: Yeah the Composite is a humanoid, otherwise it'd be some weirdo planet sized face on fire while also having the chin of Thanos

So how does Ego work

@kevd4wg: For the sake of my sanity, we'll just say that it has Ego's matter manip but he doesn't has the durability of the entire planet (cuz that would be dumb if he doesn't have the mass of the planet yet still had the durability of it)

@ecstaticgrace: Wait, which characters can use astral forms? Last I heard it was only Strange and Ancient One

What new feats from Thing?

Actually, killing humanoid Ego is a bit difficult. As long as he has energy or his brain isn't hurt he will endlessly reform.

Okay so Ego has the durability of a moon, but was in agony and blown apart from Starlord's blasters. Surtur has "multi-mountain leveling" durability because he no-sold shockwaves, but was casually pierced by Hela's blades (same ones that didn't one-shot or damage that refugee Asgard ship) and was taken back by Hulk's blitz. Graviton never TK'd anyone as strong as Thing (who could overpower it easily). The Celestial is featless without the power gem. Mysterio's drones get one-shotted by a thunderclap which ends the illusions immediately. This composite character has no durability or striking power anywhere close to beating Ben.

I never watched agents of shield but shouldn't MCU Graviton be able to just make Ben weightless? Or did he not show the ability to do that? Just looking at his power set on paper he should be able to BFR Ben pretty easily and send him floating into space and just leaving him to die.

@jashro44: For the record, Graviton has done that but it was only once tbf

@eredin12: Haven't these arguments been debunked before?

Mysterio solos.

Okay but actually...

We have:

Loki, Ultron, Thanos, Surtur, Hela, Ego, Kurse, Malekith, Destroyer, Mysterio, Strange's villain, Kilgrave, Hive, Ghost Rider, and Graviton.

Tons of ways to win.

The composite has enough durability to survive for a bit, has illusions that can ensure that they don't know where they are (from both Mysterio AND Loki) and easy ways to BFR and hax (wizard bois) and nearly instant regen of anything (Ego) and a sword that can bust entire country-sized planetoids (Surtur) and amazing TK (Graviton) and decent physicals (all) and also mind control that the team has never resisted (hormone-based TP from Kilgrave.)

They stomp. Even if the immediate "kill each other and then yourselves" from Kilgrave fails, they can't tag him due to illusions, since Loki+Mysterio can really make their lives hell. A direct stab from Surtur (which they can't see) should kill them both. Even if they do hit the villain, the villain regens instantly. Also, a black hole grenade should definitely at least phase Grimm temporarily.

So the team stomps hard.

@thespartanb345t: How about the bonus round?

@eredin12: Scaling Thor's durability doesn't work at all.

Kurse is stronger and better against Thor specifically in combat, sure, but nothing indicates that his durability is higher.