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616 Bleeding Edge Iron Man vs Rinnegan Sasuke - Battles - Comic Vine

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Spider-Man 3' Working Title Officially Revealed By Kevin Feige

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MCU Spider-Man can't even beat 616 Spider-Man let alone fucking 616 Iron Man.

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Why?

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Iron Man solos all L.A Spideys.

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This is a good sign to never make threads again

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Hill level bleach stomps

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Come on... MCU Spidey's not this good...

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@valuable: @jaylinfreeman: @fangdanerd: @gangorca: @sar_annihilator:

Spider-Man is not fodder to Iron Man:

Spider-Man has been a peer, if not superior, to Iron Man (in any of his standard armors). Thanks to @noone1996 and @toratorn for help with the scans, I really appreciate it.

Whiplash: Whiplash is one of Iron Man's major villains, capable of fodderizing armies of previous Iron Man armors.

Iron Man vs Whiplash #4

Spider-Man stomped him.

Future Robot: Spider-Man easily beats up a robot that one-shotted Iron Man.

Marvel Team-Up Vol. 1 #9

Kang: Spider-Man instantly recovers from Kang's blast, while Iron Man is out of commission.

Marvel Team-Up Vol. 1 #9/10

Radioactive Man: Iron Man gets no-sold and stomped by Radioactive Man, while Spider-Man hurts him and tanks his hit.

Doc Ock: Iron Man gets stomped and humiliated by Doc Ock.

Invincible Iron Man #502/503

Spider-Man stomps Doc Ock.

Titanium Man: He stomps Iron Man, nearly pulling a Bane on him before he gets saved by the Black Widow.

Iron Man #315

Spider-Man stomped him and had him run away. This is actually an upgraded version of Titanium man as well, making it even better.

Amazing Spider-Man #531

He also stomped the same Scorpion that stomped Titanium Man.

Carol Danvers: We all know how Carol Danvers literally killed Tony Stark, but here's the scan in case you forgot. On the other hand, Peter made her look like a fool when they fought, despite Carol being the aggressor.

Ms. Marvel Vol. 2 Annual #1

Thing: Iron Man knocked himself out by flying into Thing, who instantly recovered.

Marvel Feature #12

On the other hand, Spider-Man tanked a beating from and even hurt a heavily amped Thing.

Nova Prime:Here's how Spider-Man made Nova Prime look useless. The same Nova Prime, under the same author in the same year, absolutely curbstomped Iron Man.

Thanos Imperative #6

Hercules: Half-Powered Hercules casually stomped Iron Man in Civil War.

Civil War #4

On the other hand, Hercules (at the time depowered) thinks having spider-powers (due to Spider-Island) would be enough for him to become a god again. Spider-Man in his armor also tanks hits from Hercules on multiple occasions.

Medusa: Iron Man gets stomped by Medusa on multiple occasions. On the other hand, Spider-Man had the upper hand against her and even overpowered her hair.

Amazing Spider-Man #62

Backlash: Backlash's costume easily absorbs the force of Iron Man's punch, but Spider-Man has no issue turning it to shreds.

Marvel Team-Up #145

Rhino: Iron Man couldn't even hurt him with a sucker blast, completely gave up on trying to fight him physically, and then struggled to hold him even after he was weakened from smoke.

Iron Man #238

Spider-Man stomped him when angry and matched his strength. He also built a weapon to one-shot an even stronger Rhino. He also overpowered Rhino's charge and KO him in his armor.

Whirlwind: Iron Man got wrecked by him until Mandarin told him to leave. We even see him catch Iron Man as he tries to fly away, and then smash him into the ground.

Invincible Iron Man #514

On the other hand, a teenage Spider-Man stomped him.

Amazing Spider-Man Annual #37

Terminus: Terminus was so far above Iron Man that he couldn't even notice Iron Man's presence/attacks, and casually one-shot him. Alpha easily soloed Terminus, and the shockwaves of his attacks would have killed all the Avengers including Iron Man. Despite that, Spider-Man easily stomped him.

Thor:Thor neg-diffed Tony, but while amped (Blood and Thunder), mind-controlled, and bloodlusted, he couldn't break through Spider-Man's web shield.

Hulk: Hulk was so much more powerful and OP compared to Iron Man that he had to resort to BFR, sending him to space.

New Avengers: Illuminati

On the other hand, Spider-Man stomped him pretty easily.

Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 3 #11

He also figured out how to kill him if he needed to.

Zodiac:Iron Man got one-shot by it, but Spider-Man has tanked plenty of attacks from it.

Regent:Spider-Man takes more hits from the Regent than Iron Man does, and recovers much faster.

Iron Man:

Dr. Doom:

Iron Man admitted the only one who could beat Doom is himself - even though this Doom was using outdated tech, but Spider-Man takes Doom down in his standard armor.

Wolverine:Bleeding Edge Iron Man gets stomped by Wolverine, and Iron Man gets wrecked by Old Man Logan (who doesn't even have adamantium claws) before calling the Avengers for help.

Dead Man Logan #3

On the other hand, Spider-Man neg diffs Logan when serious.

Daredevil:Matt Murdock casually blitzstomped and one-shot Superior Iron Man in Axis #6. On the other hand, Spider-Man statued and stomped him with ease while mind-controlled.

Captain America:Captain America could have stomped Iron Man every time they fought (Civil War II: The Oath). On the other hand, an exact duplicate of Spider-Man easily stomped Cap.

Avengers Vol. 1 #11

Hank Pym: Hank Pym has stomped Iron Man multiple times in his various guises: as Ant-Man, as Yellow-Jacket, and as Giant-Man, even Atlas did. On the other hand, an exact duplicate of Spider-Man (same one from the Cap feat) easily stomped him and Wasp at the same time.

Avengers Vol. 1 #11

The real Spider-Man actually stomped the duplicate later, just to further show that he could easily replicate any of those showings.

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any 616 solos

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Iron Man is wanked as shit. To think he's actually above Spider-Man.

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@mrpopo: Read OP, it's mcu Spiderman not 616

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@thirdeev: That does not matter. That still proves that Spider-Man>Iron Man. MCU or 616. It doesn't matter. There isn't that big of a difference between 616 Spider-Man and MCU Spider-Man tbh. So it could still apply to MCU version.

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There isn't that big of a difference between 616 Spider-Man and MCU Spider-Man tbh

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@thirdeev: What? I know 616 Spidey is stronger. I'm just saying he isn't like leagues above MCU Spidey. He's stronger and faster, but not like a massive amount of difference.

Anyway, this is 616 Iron Man vs MCU Spider-Man, not 616 Spider-Man vs MCU Spider-Man. MCU Spider-Man stomps 616 Iron Man.

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Might as well post more scans to prove Spider-Man isn't fodder to Iron Man, cause it seems to me people are just oblivious to this:

Spider-Man has always been a consistent peer or threat to Iron Man (in any of his standard armors). Thanks to @just_sayin and @krleavenger for help with the scans, it's much appreciated.

Obviously this thread is a response this thread, which completely misrepresents everything. Initially, I found it mildly amusing. It's satire and I don't think any experienced user on Comic Vine actually believes that Iron Man is a high/mid-tier. Even those involved in making this thread don't actually think Iron Man could beat Spider-Man in a random encounter. It's meant to poke fun at or troll everyone rational on ComicVine. However, when you take a deeper look at some of the feats, this isn't just a comedic or unserious wank fest of Iron Man at Spider-Man's expense. It's disguised as harmless fun, but the anti-Spider-Man sentiment/disdain is real. It's a disrespect or anti-feat thread covered up with an Iron Man cloak. The Spider-Man dislike is apparent imo. Just looking at the replies in the comments, and seeing users actually linking this thread as evidence of Spider-Man's inferiority, has shown that a lot of people just didn't get it. As a result, those involved in compiling this thread, just went with it. Instead of treating it as the joke it is, they doubled down and pretended like it was a legitimate analysis instead of admitting it took them an entire year to make or that it was just intended to piss people off. Now inexperienced, ignorant, or naive users are directed there and they don't know any better.

Life has been very busy since I started working on this, so I did what I could. In the end, the only criticism of this breakdown will be that it took me too long, but that's honestly just a massive cope. This did waste a few sweet summer hours for me. Don't really think it was worth it to miss out on the great weather and time that could have been spent with family and friends, but oh well.

Dinosaurs:

Dinosaurs have stomped Iron Man on multiple occasions. A T-Rex tanked repulsors and punches from Iron Man and hurted him with its teeth.

New Avengers Vol. 1 #4-5

Even much weaker dinosaurs like Pterodactyls can restrain Iron Man.

Avengers #200
Avengers #200

On the other hand, Spider-Man one-shots T-Rexes.

Secret Invasion: The Amazing Spider-Man #2
Secret Invasion: The Amazing Spider-Man #2

Graphene:

After doubling the force of his punch, Iron Man would only be able to crack bulletproof graphene:

Iron Man Vol. 6 #7 (this issue came out literally a week ago)
Iron Man Vol. 6 #7 (this issue came out literally a week ago)

Meanwhile, Spider-Man can effortlessly break Tony Stark's own unbreakable glass:

Amazing Spider-Man #522
Amazing Spider-Man #522

Ninja:

Iron Man gets stomped by ninja:

Invincible Iron Man Vol. 2 #4
Invincible Iron Man Vol. 2 #4

Meanwhile, Spider-Man casually curbs ninja:

Avenging Spider-Man #6
Avenging Spider-Man #6

Rogue:

Rogue can easily one-shot Iron Man:

X-Men Legacy #267
X-Men Legacy #267

However, Spider-Man easily stomps her via web incap, while fighting the rest of the X-Men:

Secret Wars Vol. 1 #3
Secret Wars Vol. 1 #3

Walls:

Iron Man can't even dent granite walls with his punches:

Tales of Suspense #50
Tales of Suspense #50

With his most powerful blasts, he can only blast through 6 walls:

Iron Man #249
Iron Man #249

But of course, Spider-Man is far above this level. He easily tossed a fake Spider-Man impersonator through half a dozen thick concrete walls.

Amazing Spider-Man: Who Am I?
Amazing Spider-Man: Who Am I?

Titanium:

Iron Man can't even dent titanium, as shown below:

Tales of Suspense #69

Meanwhile, Spider-Man easily rips apart Doc Ock's titanium alloy arms:

Peter Parker: The Spectacular Spider-Man #75

Taskmaster:

Iron Man has been fodderized by Taskmaster on two separate occasions:

Avengers #196; Taskmaster Vol. 1 #1

On the other hand, he's been fodderized by Spider-Man multiples times, including:

Deadpool Vol. 3 #10
Deadpool Vol. 3 #10

Blackheart:

Just the shockwaves of Blackheart's attacks were enough to take Iron Man down, while Spider-Man recovered quickly from a direct hit:

Spider-Man (Vol. 2) #1-2

Electricity:

Iron Man gets nearly killed by a lightning bolt (it stopped his heart):

Iron Man Vol. 6 #3

Meanwhile, Spider-Man survived the entire electricity supply for Manhattan coursing through his body:

Doctor Octopus: Negative Exposure #4

He also tanked an Ultron-infested Thor's lightning:

Avengers: Rage of Ultron

Gladiator:

Iron Man gets fodderized by Gladiator:

Annihilators: Earthfall #2

On the other hand, Spider-Man is just as strong as Gladiator and has even managed to statue him.

Amazing Spider-Man: When Heroes Clash; Fantastic Four #250

Tanks:

Iron Man can't lift 2 tanks:

Tales of Suspense #53
Tales of Suspense #53

Meanwhile, Spider-Man casually ragdolls tanks:

Amazing Spider-Man #320
Amazing Spider-Man #320

Planes:

Iron Man gets heavily injured by the explosion of a small private plane:

Iron Man #251

While Spider-Man manages to land an entire private jet on his own:

Amazing Spider-Man #694
Amazing Spider-Man #694

Cars:

Iron Man admits that a car crash would break all the transistors in his armor:

Tales of Suspense #64
Tales of Suspense #64

Meanwhile, Spider-Man can toss moving armored vans around even while heavily weakened:

Marvel Team-Up #72
Marvel Team-Up #72

At full strength, he can casually catch a car thrown by the Hulk himself:

Marvel Team-Up #126
Marvel Team-Up #126

Buildings:

Tony Stark's entire armory barely survives a skyscraper falling on it, rendering most of the armors useless:

Avengers Vol. 4 #17
Avengers Vol. 4 #17

Furthermore, Iron Man gets heavily hurt by a 200 ton building falling on him:

AvX: Versus #1
AvX: Versus #1

Meanwhile, Spider-Man doesn't just survive the Daily Bugle skyscraper falling on him, but literally holds it up and then stabilizes it.

Peter Parker: Spider-Man #98

Weapons:

Iron Man gets heavily hurt by a handgun:

Invaders #7

On the other hand, Spider-Man is just fine after being shot in the chest:

Amazing Spider-Man: Who Am I?

Iron Man has also struggled with swords:

New Avengers Vol. 1 #12
New Avengers Vol. 1 #12

While Spider-Man has said that regular swords can't pierce his webbing:

Spider-Man/Deadpool #1
Spider-Man/Deadpool #1

Black Panther: T'Challa turned Tony's entire armory into butlers.

Avengers Vol. 8 #11
Avengers Vol. 8 #11

His armors have also been one-shot by T'Challa.

Avengers Vol. 8 #23
Avengers Vol. 8 #23

Meanwhile, Spider-Man casually stunts on him.

Spectacular Spider-Man #299
Spectacular Spider-Man #299

Goliath:

Iron Man gets stomped by Goliath and runs away:

Iron Man Annual #7

Meanwhile, Spider-Man takes him down while fighting an entire team:

Web of Spider-Man #64
Web of Spider-Man #64

Intelligence:

Spider-Man is as smart as Tony Stark and Hank Pym:

Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 3 #9
Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 3 #9

Spider-Man equals Reed Richards' intelligence test scores - while Reed Richards is smarter than Tony Stark:

Spider-Man/Human Torch #3; Avengers Vol. 5 #43

Spider-Man is one of the few minds on Earth who can even grasp meta-science, which is Tony Stark's Kryptonite:

Amazing Spider-Man #658; Tony Stark: Iron Man #13

Iron Man is only slightly smarter than Human Torch, who admits Spider-Man is far smarter than he is (under the same writer):

Empyre #3; Spider-Man/Human Torch #5

Iron Man's billion dollar security system gets outfoxed by grapevines, while Peter's encryption was unhackable by multiple attempts of a terrorist organization with knowledge of the literal future.

Lords of Empyre: Swordsman #1; Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 4 #2

Spider-Man's OS is years more advanced than Iron Man's own:

Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 4 #13
Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 4 #13

Spider-Man hacks Tony Stark's firm's offices from a home computer:

Civil War: Front Line #9

Spider-Man overrides Tony Stark's software on the Iron Spider:

Amazing Spider-Man #536

Spider-Man easily hacks Loki's magical programming, while Tony Stark is unable to even counter magical programming when it infects his own armor:

Amazing Spider-Man #352; Tony Stark: Iron Man #13

Iron Man is unable to even detect Spider-Man's spider-tracers:

Invincible Iron Man Vol. 1 #7
Invincible Iron Man Vol. 1 #7

Iron Man needed Spider-Man's help to design his most dangerous superweapon of mass destruction:

Invincible Iron Man #500

Iron Man needed Spider-Man's help for investigative work:

Invincible Iron Man #500

Spider-Man needed to modify and upgrade Iron Man's Bleeding Edge armor to help project Invisible Woman's force fields:

Fantastic Four #600
Fantastic Four #600

Spider-Man is able to analyze SHIELD's data in his head to conclude Collective Man's powers even quicker than Iron Man in his Extremis armor:

New Avengers Vol. 1 #17-18

Spider-Man figures out the structure of synthetic vibranium before Iron Man can:

Web of Spider-Man Annual #7

Spider-Man figures out how to stop an "alien invasion" which the likes of Iron Man had no idea how to stop, by coming up with his own probability distribution for the attacks:

Amazing Spider-Man Vol. 5 #1

Doombots:

Tony Stark wearing an old Doombot as armor stomps someone wearing his Iron Man armor, despite barely trying to fight back:

Iron Man & the Armor Wars #2
Iron Man & the Armor Wars #2

Meanwhile, Spider-Man casually punches through a Doombot's head:

Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 3 #14
Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 3 #14

Trapster:

Iron Man gets curbed by a wannabe Trapster:

Iron Man Annual #12

Meanwhile, Spider-Man beats him with ease and makes a fool of him all the time:

Amazing Spider-Man: Extra! #1; Web of Spider-Man #65

Wizard:

The Wizard beats Dr Doom in an Iron Man armor:

Infamous Iron Man #6
Infamous Iron Man #6

However, Spider-Man has one-shot him:

Marvel Team-Up Vol. 1 #2
Marvel Team-Up Vol. 1 #2

Explosives:

Iron Man gets significantly hurt by a mortar:

Iron Man Vol . 4 #30

Meanwhile, Spider-Man punches harder than an exploding mortar shell:

Amazing Spider-Man #251
Amazing Spider-Man #251

Tony's super advanced Godkiller armor gets heavily damaged by an RPG:

Iron Man 2020 Vol. 3 #3

Meanwhile, Spider-Man tanked an explosion that took down an entire building:

Spider-Man Unlimited Vol. 1 #7

Finally, Iron Man has been KOed by exploding oil barrels:

Infinity War #1

While Spider-Man has tanked the explosion of an entire propane gas station:

Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #3
Marvel Knights: Spider-Man #3

Sandman:

Sandman, one of Spider-Man's most enduring villains, has one-shot Iron Man.

Fantastic Four #645
Fantastic Four #645

Spider-Man has tanked beatdowns from Sandman all the time, for example:

Amazing Spider-Man #154

And before I end this off, I just want to reinstate the fact that this is all backed up by rock-solid intent:

Stan Lee himself, the closest thing that exists to a Word of God on Marvel characters, has said only Thor, the Hulk, and Thing are stronger than Spider-man, and it mentions that Spider-man will grow in power. So current Spider-Man would be even more relatively stronger when compared to Iron Man since Iron Man's earlier armors have more powerthan his new stuff (Tony Stark: Iron Man #13) while Spider-Man has only gotten stronger since then.

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the fact that somebody thinks spidey is above iron man is funny

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MCU Spider Man > MCU Mysterio..

Nuff said

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Iron Man probably solos 99.9% of the MCU

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#40  Edited By Noone1996

The bait is pretty sad tbh. It's been over a month and the coping and seething still continues.

Spider-Man stomps Iron Man, Spider-Man shrugs off an Iron Man repulsor blast, Spider-Man's webbing traps Iron Man,

This was an awfully written story and I think everybody knows that. Spider-Man withstands serious hits from Iron Man and not only does he basically laugh them off, but then to add insult to injury, the guy rips and tears apart Tony's suit like it's made out of tissue paper. There is a ton of bad writing and inconsistency throughout this issue. For starters, his initial kick is no-sold:

Seriously?

But then throughout this fight it's clear that Peter's hits can hurt and fodderize the suit. After Spider-Man gets blitzed, and somehow overpowers Tony midair, they crash land and then Tony gets webbed up/trapped. He's then forced to use bomblets to break out of the webbing. This in itself is awful writing because even Spider-Man can break out of his own webbing. And again. Iron Man armors have shown time and again that they can easily overpower Peter Parker:

Like that time Punisher overpowered and ragdolled Spider-Man as his webbing stuck to War Machine's outdated armor (should be noted that Spider-Man is not seen for several pages after this) or that time Peter was pummeling Wolverine and in order to break up the fight Tony grabs and overpowers Parker to stop him.

Hell, he's even gone up against wrappings that he admitted could rival Spider-Man's webbing strength, yet broke out of them in his classic armor:

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Spider-Man's consistent strength level just isn't even on par with Iron Man in general:

Scan 1: He struggles to keep a small piece of a brick wall from falling on a civilian. All he can do is hold it off for a bit until the guy gets out of harm's way. It then collapses on top of him after he can't handle the weight anymore; Scan 2: Despite having Miles' help and the semi's cargo falling into the water, they still struggle to tug that truck back up; Scan 3: Spider-Man admits his webbing cannot stop a small airport truck and when he attempts to slow the trailer with his webbing and own strength he claims that it took all of his strength and concentration JUST to direct it away from the civilians; Scan 4-6: Spider-Man cannot break out of regular chains; Scan 7: A metal steel beam restrains him and someone of the Juggernaut's strength level can casually unbend it; Scan 8-10: Spider-Man, while in his fancy super suit armor, cannot prevent a skyscraper crane from falling. At best, all he can do is hold it until civilians get away so it doesn't fall on them. As soon as they are safe, he has to let it go instead of pushing it back in place or keeping it somewhere safe. Skyscraper cranes tend to weigh about 200 tons, by the way. The heaviest one in the world is only 1,200 tons. Those are used to lift ships or oil rig materials.

We're not even getting into the characters that have overpowered Spider-Man either like Rhino (who Iron Man overpowered), a weakened/slightly dehydrated Namor (who Iron Man has overpowered), War Machine (who has a worse suit than Tony), Titania (who Iron Man has overpowered), She-Hulk (who Iron Man has one-shotted and outlifted), or how he couldn't budge/hurt Red Hulk (while Tony has), or how he hurts his hand hitting Thing while Tony can consistently bother him with his repulsors or punches. Instead, I can just post Iron Man's lifting feats:

Scan 1: This one is first because it quite literally shows a correlation between Iron Man dealing with a brick wall and Spidey. A bigger chunk of an actual building is caught and casually held by Tony and then he proceeds to throw the entire thing at Nitro; Scan 2: Tony tows 5 battleships out to sea (these weigh tens of thousands of tons) in under 5 minutes out of range of an island busting explosion; Scan 3: While extremely low on power, he has no issue breaking chains (unlike Peter); Scan 4: While low on power through Tony's own admission, he manages to stop a giant rocket from falling on civilians until they get out of harm's way. Probably weighs more than a crane; Scan 5: Does the same thing but this time with an entire cargo ship. These range in the hundreds of thousands of tons; Scan 6: Casually lifts a tank with each hand and smashes them together. Spider-Man can't even lift one tank.

I already showed you Iron Man walking through Blacklash's gravity field that Spider-Man couldn't move in, the time he kicked down a door that was held and reinforced by Spider-Man's webbing, and even Iron Man with a small fraction of his energy managed to overpower Ock's tentacles, but these new feats I've posted just further reinforce the idea that Iron Man's strength is on another level. Forget even comparing their lifting feats where Iron Man pushes skyscrapers back into place, tows 5 battleships at once, or smashes tanks together with each hand; he is far stronger and wouldn't be overpowered by this poor excuse for webbing. Yet, despite all of that, he cannot break out of Spider-Man's webbing without using bombs. It's awful writing.

As the fight continues, after Iron Man breaks free he gets a truck thrown on him which damages the armor even more:

A truck being thrown by a 30-40 tonner should not do that much damage. Maybe it was the same truck which KO'd Hulk.

Iron Man then blitzes Spider-Man which misses, results in him somehow incapacitating himself, and that leaves him vulnerable for awhile:

That's right, simply flying through a wall nearly finished him. Totally good writing.

After Tony finally recovers and blasts Spider-Man (which of course Peter tanks), he then proceeds to overpower and rip apart Iron Man's armor. First of all, Tony is capable of one-shotting Spider-Man like he has during Civil War:

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Not to mention this idea that Spider-Man can tear apart and casually rip open an armor which no-sells nuclear explosions is just nonsensical. In scans and stories that YOU brought up, he's shown hurting his hand hitting Iron Man. He shouldn't be powerful enough to tear apart an armor which is far more durable than he is. Iron Man has stunned and harmed Spider-Man just by accidentally flying into him when he leapt in the way of his blitz. He no-sold the same energy blast from Ultron which KO'd Spider-Man and even an angry punch from Peter did absolutely nothing to his classic suit:

Scan 1: He says he has a headache after the hit. Iron Man is unphased; Scan 2: He's KO'd for so long that they have to carry him out of their base as it's bombarded by villains. That's SEVERAL PAGES; Scan 3: This angry hit was powered by his concern for Aunt May so you know it had some force behind it.

This idea that he can rip apart an armor like that so easily is just ridiculous and inconsistent. Especially when he struggles to bust far less durable objects and villains:

I mean we're talking about a guy that hurts his hand punching bricks...
This is a guy that couldn't punch through concrete and needed to web up his hands to handle the pain.
This is a guy that hurts his hand hitting Kraven's belt buckle...
This is a guy that hurts his hand hitting Kraven's belt buckle...
This is a guy that consistently hurts his hand hitting Hammerhead's skull...
A guy that hurts himself hitting Absorbing Man when he takes the texture of the airport runway...
A guy that hurts himself hitting Absorbing Man when he takes the texture of the airport runway...
...vibranium skinsuits also no-sell his hits (unsurprisingly).
...vibranium skinsuits also no-sell his hits (unsurprisingly).

I've got so many more scans of stuff just like this, but I think you get the picture. Spider-Man does not consistently tear off or punch through nuclear bunkers, bank vaults, tanks, or something like that. He shouldn't be tearing apart an armor that contains metals much stronger than anything listed above (except for the vibranium).

Spider-Man chips Iron Man's armor and messes up the sensors before leaving

First of all, you can see the "pieces" of armor chipped off near Spider-Man's hand, so who is to say that it wasn't Peter's suit that had pieces broken off? His suit was already in bad shape after falling from a skyscraper and you see no damage at all to Tony's suit after he gets hit by Spider-Man:

So if anybody is getting pieces chipped off their suit, it's likely Peter's. I mean Iron Man doesn't even get phased by Peter's punches during Civil War.

In Civil War 5, you see him hitting Iron Man and, even though he is wearing Tony's armor to amplify and protect him, the hit through the wall literally does nothing. He doesn't grunt out in pain just like he doesn't express pain in Amazing Spider-Man 536.

As for Iron Man's sensors being knocked offline, that's just a plot device so Spider-Man could escape and join Cap. He's literally been blinded before by Venom and could still use his scanners to see just fine:

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Venom's webbing is just as strong as his (also notable how Spider-Man and Iron Man is able to rip Venom's off, yet Iron Man apparently cannot for Peter's)
Venom's webbing is just as strong as his (also notable how Spider-Man and Iron Man is able to rip Venom's off, yet Iron Man apparently cannot for Peter's)

That's not the only time he's been able to see via his scanners despite being blinded:

Mandarin's black light is something Tony consistently deals with.

So yeah, bad writing and a plot device.

Spider-Man tanks a point blank Iron Man blast

Okay and? Punisher blasted him with a holding back repulsor from a single gauntlet. He obviously wasn't trying to kill Peter. The gauntlet isn't even hooked up to a central power source like an arc reactor which makes the attacks more potent. Let's see what happens when the Punisher blasts Spider-Man in a fully armored suit:

Well, would you look at that? He gets one-shotted. Again. He even claims he can barely fly the thing and yet he casually one-shots Spider-Man using an Iron Man armor he is unfamiliar with operating. Pretty pathetic. Spider-Man even lays there in pain long enough for them to walk out without worry.

That's not the only time the Punisher fought Spider-Man while wearing an Iron Man armor either:

Spider-Man is KO'd for 6 minutes by War Machine's blast and probably would have been out for far longer if the heroes hadn't found and woken him up lmao.
Spider-Man is KO'd for 6 minutes by War Machine's blast and probably would have been out for far longer if the heroes hadn't found and woken him up lmao.

Punisher even instructs his armor not to blast the heroes with deadly force when he fights them too:

He makes this clear when he fights Carol Danvers. He wasn't attacking heroes with lethal force.
He makes this clear when he fights Carol Danvers. He wasn't attacking heroes with lethal force.

While heavily weakened and with his powers not working properly, Spider-Man tanked a hacked Iron Man's repulsors

Peter gets stomped until Tony takes back control of his own suit. Not only does Spider-Man get casually tagged, grabbed, and overpowered by Iron Man in this story, but when Spider-Man attempts to punch him, he literally hurts his hand hitting the guy:

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Here is the scan that proves Iron Man got back control of his suit before it was too late:

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"Just in time". Tony would have killed him, but keep pretending like Iron Man tried and failed to kill a weakened Spider-Man. Nah, he was controlled for seconds and then overrode Tracer's control 'just in time'.

Also, Spider-Man went on to fight Morlun just fine while " massively weakened" several issues/days later, so I don't think mentioning that he was "weakened" is even relevant. We have no idea the extent of which he is "weaker" from his medical condition, but his performance against Morlun sure says a lot. Peter throws dumpsters, gets tackled through buildings/walls, gets thrown from the ceiling of a sewer tunnel out through to the ground of the street, smashes Morlun with an entire car, gets his head pushed through a USPS mailbox, tanks at least a dozen punches from Morlun, uses his webbing to slingshot Morlun deep inside of the street floor (to the point where he is underground), etc. This was all AFTER he fought Iron Man which would mean his condition would have progressed and worsened by the time he fought Morlun, yet he could still handle all of that. Sounds like a massive cope on your part. I'd say Iron Man defeats a "weakened" Spider-Man far quicker than Morlun could and Peter got stomped.

Spider-Man's webbing traps Bleeding Edge Iron Man for long enough that Daredevil could escape

That's Daredevil speaking and not Tony. It's not hard for Tony to break out of or melt the webbing off and chase Murdock who can't even swing and jump around that quickly. Tony can fly at massively hypersonic speeds and track people for miles with his scanners. His statement proves nothing and is wrong. It's also an unserious training exercise where there are no stakes.

Spider-Man's webs capture Iron Man armor, Spider-Man easily tanks a lethal Iron Man's attacks

Lmao you really used this as an example of Spider-Man's superiority to Iron Man? First of all, these are Iron Man knockoffs that aren't using the same Stark tech or built by Tony himself:

Tony and SHIELD agents call them knockoffs, wannabe, and cosplayer.

They may be the same "designs", but building Iron Man armors is not as easy as simply using the same designs. The Stark tech materials (like SKIN metals, a Stark tech arc reactor, or force-fields) are also a factor. Even without all of that material, the engineer building the armor also makes a difference. Reed Richards has admitted that Tony is the best builder and a better engineer than he is. None of these suits used Stark tech or were built by Tony himself. Spider-Man encounters one and even he admits that they look different or "older":

They're probably ripped off designs of Tony's old and obsolete armors too which makes it even funnier.
They're probably ripped off designs of Tony's old and obsolete armors too which makes it even funnier.

When one of these knockoffs fights Iron Man, he simply one-shots it after it fails to use an EMP on him (which is comical because Peter later on can't withstand the same EMP an issue earlier):

Fodderized.

Now let's see how Spider-Man fares against this fodder:

As you showed in your cropped images, he does tank a blast from the Iron Imposter, but you failed to show that after the targeted EMP wrecks his web shooter tech, he gets KO'd after a casual left hook. He's out cold and if not for Mockingbird and Melinda May to save him, he would have died. Not exactly a good showing. He got two-shotted by a knockoff and low grade Iron Man.

In fact, to give you an idea of just how much fodder they are, look at how they end up beating this guy:

After they beat him, via hacking within seconds, Mockingbird somehow manages to keep him busy with a headlock. Spider-Man finally wakes up and holds his arm in pain.
After they beat him, via hacking within seconds, Mockingbird somehow manages to keep him busy with a headlock. Spider-Man finally wakes up and holds his arm in pain.
Even this Iron Imposter is one-shotted by Melinda May's featless SHIELD gun after the Iron Imposter embarrasses Sam Wilson.
Even this Iron Imposter is one-shotted by Melinda May's featless SHIELD gun after the Iron Imposter embarrasses Sam Wilson.

Now, to address your stupid point that Iron Man blasted at an Iron Imposter and the blast was cancelled out, it's a simple answer. Iron Man was only blasting with ONE of his hands/gauntlets and he always holds back. So that means he matched the offensive output and repulsor rays of the blood-lusted Grant Ward without straining. If he was using his full force repulsors or both hands, then it's clear he would have overpowered those beams.

As for Spider-Man webbing up and overpowering this fodder, that's really not impressive. In the same batch of images we have She-Hulk, Sam Wilson Captain America, Ms. Marvel, and even Deathlok one-shotting them:

I already showed you nameless SHIELD agents one-shotting or hacking these knockoffs (as well as Iron Man wrecking them too), so the fact that Carol, Sam, Jen, and Deathlok can do it too just shows how poor their durability and defensive abilities are. Therefore, not impressive when Peter webbed them up and beat them.

It's pretty hilarious that somebody would actually try to gaslight others into thinking that Spider-Man getting stomped by a weaker Iron Knockoff imposter is actually evidence of Parker's superiority to Stark instead of his inferiority. Again, a single palm holding back repulsor beam matched the FULL double palm offensive output of a blast which wrecked Spider-Man:

Actually, now that I think about it, Spider-Man actually was fodderized by a SINGLE palm blast from the Iron Imposter instead of a double palm repulsor. So that just makes Spider-Man look even worse.
Actually, now that I think about it, Spider-Man actually was fodderized by a SINGLE palm blast from the Iron Imposter instead of a double palm repulsor. So that just makes Spider-Man look even worse.

Now, if you want to talk about Iron Man knockoffs doing better against Tony, then we should also include that time from Infinity War where the Iron Man knockoff (who Iron Man tanked many hits from both on and off-panel) one-shotted Spider-Man:

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Spider-Man's webs block Iron Man's repulsors

Repulsors that were being shot at Ghost, who has no notable durability feats (in fact he was even one-shotted by Spider-Man when he couldn't phase). This idea that he was blasting Ghost with his best and most potent repulsor rays is literally a brain dead notion. Ghost's best durability feat is tanking hits from street levelers. He phases through most attacks, so it wouldn't take much of a high level attack for Stark to KO him if he had the chance. Iron Man always holds back unless it is stated otherwise, so if anything this feat actually makes Peter's webbing look bad since it was vaporized by Stark's holding back repulsors. Here is proof that he tends to hold back:

He wasn't trying to kill Ghost just like he wasn't trying to kill these characters.

Debunked.

Spider-Man's armor would make Iron Man wet his pants

Oh wow a vague statement by Spider-Man without Iron Man having any say at all? So compelling. If Stark was there to confirm it that would be one thing, but that's not what happens. As for someone wetting their pants, let's take a look at what Spider-Man has done when going up against Iron Man:

He gets so scared by Iron Man simply aiming and warming up his repulsor ray to blast him that he literally drops Captain America's shield and jumps away. So who is wetting themselves? Certainly not Tony.

Especially with that "arsenal" Spider-Man has in his webbing which can apparently be countered with a simple EMP. On a consistent basis, too. Yeah, I'm sure Iron Man couldn't replicate those effects.

Spider-Man tanks Ironheart's repulsorsSpider-Man easily overpowers Ironheart

First of all, she doesn't even try to KO him (like she clearly does when she one-shots Rhino who is far more durable). She wanted answers as she tries to talk to him away from her neighborhood. Second of all, in that same page where she blasts him you can see that the artist drew a hole in the torso of his chest for his suit:

The next page might show his suit undamaged in the next issue, but that could just be an artist mistake or his suit self-repaired.
The next page might show his suit undamaged in the next issue, but that could just be an artist mistake or his suit self-repaired.

As for him "overpowering" her, that's just such an oversimplification of what happened there. Peter even states that she doesn't have "auto locks" to prevent her legs from being moved. All he did was move and pull her legs while she wasn't expecting it. There is no evidence that she was actively locking her legs into place or attempting to push back to keep them straight. He just took her by surprise here and the jet boots pushed them below. Not to mention the fact that she wasn't even trying to fight him. She was just trying to get him out of her neighborhood so people don't see them:

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This story then proceeds with Riri hacking and tracking the signal of a Stark phone that Peter thought was impossible and couldn't do himself:

When he hitches a ride with her, he can't hold on by himself (likely due to his poor strength), so he needs to web himself to her back in order to avoid getting pulled off:

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Hilariously enough, in this same run, the guy that supposedly tanks Riri's "best repulsor ray" in an armor that's "superior" to Tony's in every way, gets embarrassed by a regular human an issue later:

IIRC, Kingpin hurting him with his punches isn't even the worst of it within that run.

As far as I'm concerned, this Riri Williams showing is a non-feat. Especially since Riri's armor and intellect is in fact lower than Tony's. He and his AI (the same AI version of Stark which is confirmed to be less intelligent than the original Tony) are constantly shown as correcting her, outsmarting her, improving her suit, and there are times when she outright admits his tech is better than hers. There's this misconception that she replaced him because she was smarter or recreated/improved his armor with less and while only 15, but that's simply not true. He only took her under his wing because he saw her as a "kindred spirit":

He's felt a "kindred spirit" with a guy named Gabriel before due to their mutual interest in robotics:

So it's meaningless.
So it's meaningless.

She does manage to hack his armor and tech at times, but IMO that alone doesn't make her smarter.

Spider-Man traps Iron Man in webs, after tanking his max power uni-beam. He then rips off Iron Man's helmet and smashes it.

Glad you categorized this one in a single section so I don't have to. This is another example of writing where Spider-Man is wanked at Iron Man's expense. Like Amazing Spider-Man: Who Am I?, we see a story where Spider-Man's strength and webbing is portrayed at a far higher level than what we see on a consistent basis. The fight starts off with Iron Man blitzing Spider-Man, but then when Parker webs up Tony's legs (similarly to Riri Williams), the jet boots are clogged and can no longer fly. As a result, they free fall and just to overpower the simple, basic, and weak force of falling from skyscraper heights, Tony needs to direct ALL of his power to his repulsor gloves. A lot of bad writing so far. First of all, jet boots that are powerful enough to propel him to massively hypersonic speeds/intercontinental distances and can do this...

Stopping Sentry's blitz and briefly keeping him at bay, harming Vanguard, knocking Thor off his feet and into a pool (long enough for him to transform back into Donald Blake), accidentally KO'ing Human Torch, and making Hulk scream out in pain.

....should not be overpowered and dampened by Peter's shitty webbing. I don't care how amped he was by "The Other" or whatever the story is on his abilities at that time. Don't know and don't care. Unless it was stated that his webbing was like 10,000 times stronger than his old webbing which has been melted/burnt by all of this:

Electro, Jubilee, and Machine Man. Not to mention Radioactive Man who has also casually melted his webbing.

...it's no excuse that Tony's jet boots would get clogged and rendered inert from it.

Not only that, but Tony even goes on to say that them free falling could have "gotten them both killed" and you can see the desperation and concern that Tony experiences as they fall. Writing them as weak enough to get killed or damaged from a high fall seems familiar. Where have I seen that before? Spider-Man even claims that Tony's repulsor glove was overheated just by safely landing. Yeah the guy that regularly deals with re-entry would probably have a real hard time with a fall like that, sure.

Anyway, as the fight continues, Iron Man uses a maximum powered uni-beam blast which also gets dampened by Spider-Man's webbing. Again, it's another example of shitty writing because at 54% capacity his uni-beam not only burnt Graviton through his shields, but the heat itself also measured in at 6,327 Kelvin (which is 10,928 degrees Fahrenheit). So his webbing contains and dampens a uni-beam that can burn twice as hot as the surface of the sun. I'm sure that's consistent for his webbing, right? Not only that, but the feedback of his uni-beam being blocked actually knocks his repulsors offline for over a minute. When they come back online, somehow he's able to burn and melt through it casually and with one blast:

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So it's pretty inconsistent all around. One minute he is contained by the webbing and his max uni-beam is extinguished. The next minute, he casually burns all of it off without struggling. This story is all over the place and it is another one of those hate porn stories where Tony is beaten up or "given what he deserves" because hE iS a jErK DuRiNg CiViL wAr. Cry me a river.

I've already gone through why it's bad writing for Tony's suit to be casually torn apart when talking about the "Who Am I" storyline, so I won't do that again, but I'd also like to point out another strange inconsistency. At the end, after Spider-Man rips off Tony's helmet and he flies away, somehow he manages to punch through the same helmet that he was hurting himself, and bled hitting, pages before. Overall, this is just absolutely shitty writing. I mean hilariously enough, this same writer (JMS) portrayed Civil War era Extremis Iron Man as durable enough to tank 3 hits from an angry Odin Force Thor (who he wrote as Thor saying he was no longer holding back anymore). That was another hate porn story where Iron Man is humiliated for what he did during Civil War, yet JMS portrays Iron Man as FAR more durable there. It's just odd.

One of the Knauf brothers even commented on how Spider-Man was written too broadly and shined other characters at Tony's expense. He specifically uses the words "underwritten" and "weak" when describing JMS' writing of Iron Man.

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Here is the Yankee Stadium clean-up Daniel Knauf was referring to:

Dodges and two-shots Spider-Man casually. He could have easily arrested him here, but decides not to out of honor. Spider-Man, and several other street levelers, are absolutely embarrassed.

Since you posted a lot of instances of Iron Man "losing" to Spider-Man, I figured I'll do the same. As hard as it may be to believe, I've still got a lot more scans that show Iron Man is above Spider-Man:

Iron Man KO's Spider-Man with a punch (this was a time where Stan Lee wanked him too).
Iron Man KO's Spider-Man with a punch (this was a time where Stan Lee wanked him too).

Even in a reality where Spider-Man didn't exist, he gets trapped and overpowered by Iron Man's force-field:

In Peter's own book, and while wearing that
In Peter's own book, and while wearing that "armor" which supposedly makes him Iron Man's equal, he can't keep up with Iron Man and Tony even claims he could improve the web shooters to make him faster.

All in all, Iron Man has one-shotted Spider-Man alone more often than Spider-Man has actually beaten Tony through bad writing moments. If you count the victories and losses side-by-side, Peter has far more losses than wins. Iron Man's also embarrassed a number of Spider-Man's villains. I've already mentioned a few (like Doc Ock and Rhino), but there was also Kraven, Shocker, Carnage, Sandman, Electro, Venom, and has even embarrassed Kingpin in chess:

Kraven, a guy that consistently gives Spider-Man a hard time (and has defeated Peter a few times) as well as Agent Venom, gets harmed by Iron Man's repulsor rays despite holding a vibranium staff which absorbs the force of his blast. We don't have to imagine what would happen if he didn't have that staff because we see that fight happen in scan 2 where Tony's early armor no-sells his hit and then casually one-shots him in one of his oldest armors.
In a malfunctioning and incomplete prototype armor, Iron Man manages to absorb Shocker's blast and then redirects that power to defeat him.
In a malfunctioning and incomplete prototype armor, Iron Man manages to absorb Shocker's blast and then redirects that power to defeat him.

When Tony and the Mandarin go up against Sandman, they seem to embarrass the guy far easier than Spider-Man ever could:

As you can see, Iron Man blasts him one time which completely disperses his sand form. So much so that the sand actually gets stuck in the air and blinds Electro. This leads to him firing blindly at one of his allies. Gargoyle statues him, Iron Man slams him, and then Marko finally reforms a few pages later. He turns himself into a sandwave and slams him into another room. Tony tanks it without a problem and then pours water on top of him which then goes down the drain for the easy win.

This isn't THAT clear-cut since Iron Man ultimately uses the environment to defeat him (kind of like Spider-Man would), but what about the Mandarin?

Mandarin didn't even want to fight the guy and stomps him in a panel. His ring completely paralyzes and overpowers him. This is the type of power that Iron Man regularly deals with.
Mandarin didn't even want to fight the guy and stomps him in a panel. His ring completely paralyzes and overpowers him. This is the type of power that Iron Man regularly deals with.

There may have been a time when that same Makluan energy ring beam could fodderize Tony's earliest suits, but by Tony's 3rd/4th encounter when he uses his Model 4, he manages to withstand that type of power from the Mandarin's rings with minor difficulties. But hell, even an unarmored Pepper Potts has done well against Flint. Sandman, alongside Electro, struggled massively against Pepper Potts of all people with just an arc reactor:

She constantly dissipates Sandman's sand form and actually holds her own pretty well.
She dissipates Sandman again (which makes him grunt in pain) and ends up sort of helping them get away at the end, but she's not even wearing an armor and she's clearly inexperienced.
Look at that amazing track record Spider-Man has against Flint. One-shotted constantly, no-sold, fodderized.
He hasn't done so hot against Electro either. He usually needs extra gear or to fight dirty in order to beat Electro or Sandman.

Ultimately, Pepper doesn't do amazing against them, but it's pretty hilarious how an inexperienced woman who only has an arc reactor is capable of giving these guys such a hard time. That's not the only time Electro has been embarrassed though. He also couldn't escape a force-field that Tony erected. Max was even harmed every time he so much as touched it:

Spider-Man even admits in scan 2 that he needs to web up his hands to punch Electro without harming himself.
Even the Iron Spider's Stark tech is able to ground and redirect Electro's attacks to fodderize him (I imagine Tony's got much better toys in his own suit than this).
Even the Iron Spider's Stark tech is able to ground and redirect Electro's attacks to fodderize him (I imagine Tony's got much better toys in his own suit than this).

When Venom fights Iron Man in issue 302 volume 1, Tony smacks Venom away casually and hurts him with these hits:

It's clear that he's not even taking the fight that seriously either since he blasts at Venom with warning shots after he punches him away. He does much better than Spider-Man has against Venom.
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You might think it's not relevant to show Iron Man exploiting Venom's sound weakness, but Tony's tech seems to do much better than Spider-Man (actually I think this may be Fantastic Four tech which is even worse for Peter). Even Ben Reilly's strategy with a megaphone falls flat.

His force-fields no-sell many Venom symbiote infected civilians and contains a dog for analysis.

As for the Kingpin, a guy that regularly outsmarts and strategically embarrasses all sorts of street levelers (including Spider-Man I'm sure), Tony has consistently been able to stomp him in chess matches every single time they play:

I also wonder why they ask for Tony Stark's help to contain Spider-Man's villains:

This serves to prove that, if Iron Man ever went up against these guys in a random encounter, he could use his vast versatility to counter them without issue.
This serves to prove that, if Iron Man ever went up against these guys in a random encounter, he could use his vast versatility to counter them without issue.

Doc Ock: Iron Man gets stomped and humiliated by Doc Ock.

In that same issue, they literally show classic Iron Man fighting and stomping Ock in a one-shot:

He even makes fun of the fact that he has no imagination, is slow, stole his best ideas, and was a joke for struggling with Spider-Man all those years. Not exactly a good example of how Iron Man compares to Spidey.
He even makes fun of the fact that he has no imagination, is slow, stole his best ideas, and was a joke for struggling with Spider-Man all those years. Not exactly a good example of how Iron Man compares to Spidey.

As for Iron Man getting "stomped" by Doc Ock, maybe you're forgetting the part where he was using so little power and thickness of his Bleeding-Edge armor, that it was only 11 microns thin. Ock claimed that the more power he used, the more likely that it would detonate a nuclear device and level New York:

Tony even claims that he's not even using enough repulsor energy to power a flashlight, let alone the bomb.

So even when he's essentially not using any power and fighting the guy with slightly above his base human stats, he still manages to hurt, bloody, dodge, tank hits from, and even overpower Ock lmao:

Scan 1: A kick to the head makes Ock open his mouth in pain; Scan 2: An elbow to the back of the head seems to damage his bones or cause some sort of internal bleeding. It even forces Ock to stop fighting for awhile since Stark gets back to defusing the "bomb"; Scan 3: Simply hitting Otto in the head with a tile from the floor makes him let go of Stark, bloodies him, and allows him time to examine the bomb longer; Scan 4: As Otto's arms grab Tony, he simply jumps away which overpowers Octavius' grip on Tony. This makes him grunt in pain. He lashes out at Stark again, but is dodged; Scan 5: Tony is hit by 6 of Otto's tentacles into a wall and then is smacked in the face. He tanks it all like a champ and continues to fight; Scan 6: Otto throws Iron Man into the bomb which activates the timer on it. Once again, unharmed. This whole fight has Tony and his paperthin armor, undamaged.

If he wasn't using so little power, thickness of his armor, had access to his repulsor rays/flight, and wasn't attempting to defuse a fake bomb all at the same time, it's obvious who would have been the embarrassed one here. Definitely not Stark.

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If anybody wants to directly counter these points, without posting random or out of context anti-feats like of Iron Man fighting dinosaurs or titanium, be my guest. Iron Man one-shots Spider-Man far more often than the bad writing moments (two times) where Spider-Man wins. MCU Spider-Man gets stomped harder than the 616 version would.

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#42  Edited By TheBatmeme368

wat

iron man, no contest

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...From now on, let's just leave thread making to the professionals. XD

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#44  Edited By Dmnb2wavy

Mcu Spider-Man > 616 Ironman

Spider-Man hurt thanos

Thanos > iron man

Therefore Spider-Man one shots.......

Seriously tho why?

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You could add in Tobey Maguire Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, and Tom Hardy Venom, and 616 Iron Man would still stomp.

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616 version of most characters would beat up to iron man mcu. Even Iron fist and others.

‘So I’ll go with Tony comfortably here

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@geekryan said:

You could add in Tobey Maguire Spider-Man, Andrew Garfield Spider-Man, and Tom Hardy Venom, and 616 Iron Man would still stomp.

How when Spider-Man > Iron Man?

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