616 Daredevil vs CW Squad

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ARROW TEAM

  • Slade Wilson
  • Roy Harper
  • Oliver Queen
  • Malcom Merlyn
  • Laurel Lance

The Rules

  • Bloodlusted
  • Battle takes place in an abandoned New York
  • Daredevil gets one hour of prep time.
  • CW Arrow and 616 Daredevil if this wasn't blatantly clear
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This is tough.

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I came in here expecting to see a ridiculous mismatch and I didn't. Good job.

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#4  Edited By nickzambuto

Arrow solos. Daredevil wouldn't stand a chance against powered grandmasters like Darhk, Vandal Savage and Ra's al Ghul all of who Oliver can defeat alone.

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Actually, explosive spam is an option for Oliver with bloodlust so I'm siding with the team.

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All comic book characters are overrated.

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@decaf_wizard: kinda trying to avoid Arrow threads, since I'm starting the latest season in a few days. Wanna avoid spoilers

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I'll side with DD, cw versions are not nearly as accurate, I believe they would have trouble tagging him

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Yeah, Arrow team because of equipment.

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Arrow solos. Daredevil wouldn't stand a chance against powered grandmasters like Darhk, Vandal Savage and Ra's al Ghul all of who Oliver can defeat alone.

Arrow > Solid Snake > Daredevil = confirmed.

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Siding with team Arrow, assuming this is standard gear.

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#14  Edited By nickzambuto

@educated said:

I'll side with DD, cw versions are not nearly as accurate, I believe they would have trouble tagging him

Oliver can make accurate shots from over half a mile away with ease. He's shot other arrows and even FTE speed projectiles right out of the air. He tagged Vandal Savage who is a near-effortless bullet timer. He even accurately ricocheted an arrow and can fire up to three arrows simultaneously and somehow aim them all at completely different angles and elevations to hit three different targets across a warehouse. What more do you want from him?!

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@nickzambuto said:

Arrow solos. Daredevil wouldn't stand a chance against powered grandmasters like Darhk, Vandal Savage and Ra's al Ghul all of who Oliver can defeat alone.

Arrow > Solid Snake > Daredevil = confirmed.

Solid Snake would defeat Green Arrow but it would be an interesting fight.

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#16  Edited By Educated

@nickzambuto: His feats still pale in comparison to his comic counterpart and it would be a toss up who would win that battle (would prob. highly depend on where the fight took place and distance, not to mention what arrows Ollie had available). A couple of these guys I see being fodderized as well.. I could see him losing without a shadow of a doubt but I think he would take a majority

Not to mention DC Ollie has much better hand to hand feats (not that Cw Ollie lacks any but...) If this were Netflix DD I could see Ollie soloing though

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@educated said:

@nickzambuto: His feats still pale in comparison to his comic counterpart and it would be a toss up who would win that battle (would prob. highly depend on where the fight took place and distance, not to mention what arrows Ollie had available). A couple of these guys I see being fodderized as well.. I could see him losing without a shadow of a doubt but I think he would take a majority

That makes no sense. Judge this fight on its own, not in comparison to another arbitrary fight that is completely unrelated. I can argue CW Green Arrow vs classic Green Arrow too. The feats I just listed do not pale in comparison to anything, you're insane if you think the things I listed aren't impressive. The fact of the matter is, you said he can't tag Matt. I brought up the fact he already tagged Vandal Savage who is superhuman and much faster than Matt. So there's no reason he can't tag Matt too.

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Arrow solos. Daredevil wouldn't stand a chance against powered grandmasters like Darhk, Vandal Savage and Ra's al Ghul all of who Oliver can defeat alone.

You know nothing Jon Snow Nickzambuca.

Daredevil stomps.

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Matt, there's no way they are tagging him with arrows.

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#20  Edited By nickzambuto

Matt, there's no way they are tagging him with arrows.

Okay Oliver will just beat him up with his hands than.

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@paragonnate said:

Matt, there's no way they are tagging him with arrows.

Okay Oliver will just beat him up with his hands than.

Yeaaahhhh. Not seeing that happen either. Matt can go toe to toe with Captain America for a respectable amount of time and take a beating like no other on top of that. On top of that his radar sense will prevent anyone from getting the drop on him and Matt is faster to begin with.

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@nickzambuto: I could maybe see Comic Ollie tagging him with some crazy ricochet shots.. maybe, but DD has feats bullet-timing marvels best marksman Bulleyes, it's very hard to compete with that..

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@nickzambuto said:
@paragonnate said:

Matt, there's no way they are tagging him with arrows.

Okay Oliver will just beat him up with his hands than.

Yeaaahhhh. Not seeing that happen either. Matt can go toe to toe with Captain America for a respectable amount of time and take a beating like no other on top of that. On top of that his radar sense will prevent anyone from getting the drop on him and Matt is faster to begin with.

So what. Darhk and Vandal Savage are both more powerful than Captain America and way more trained and experienced too. Oliver doesn't just "go toe to toe" with them, he can outright kill them both (only problem is that Vandal is immortal). It doesn't matter if nobody can get the drop on him, Oliver doesn't need stealth to beat him up. I'm fully aware of how tough Matt Murdock is, but he's nowhere near as superhuman and ridiculous as CW Green Arrow, unless I missed the issue where Matt had his throat closed, got stabbed through the chest and then fell off a mountaintop, and was fine the next day with only basic medical treatment "because will power."

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@educated said:

@nickzambuto: I could maybe see Comic Ollie tagging him with some crazy ricochet shots.. maybe, but DD has feats bullet-timing marvels best marksman Bulleyes, it's very hard to compete with that..

You have no idea what you're talking about.

Comic Ollie doesn't ricochet his arrows. And even if he could, how is that relevant? Daredevil has never faced comic book Green Arrow. Why do you keep bringing up Oliver's counterpart?

And Daredevil has never bullet timed Bullseye.

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#25  Edited By Educated

@nickzambuto: I know for a fact Ollie has ricocheted his arrows in the past but unfortunately I can't recall the scenes : (

As far as DD bullet timing Bullseye, they've gone toe to toe so many times I just assumed, mb if I was wrong >.<

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@educated: Daredevil bullet timed Bullseye very recently, with a freaking sniper nonetheless. Don't let Nickz mislead you.

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Arrow because I like the fight scenes in Arrow.

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The Arrow fanbase is probably one if the worst on CV, and that's saying something.

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@educated said:

@nickzambuto: I know for a fact Ollie has ricocheted his arrows in the past but unfortunately I can't recall the scenes : (

As far as DD bullet timing Bullseye, they've gone toe to toe so many times I just assumed, mb if I was wrong >.<

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Just because he dodged the round doesn't make it bullet timing. Oliver has plenty of those types of feats.

@educated: Daredevil bullet timed Bullseye very recently, with a freaking sniper nonetheless. Don't let Nickz mislead you.

Scans or it didn't happen bitch.

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@nickzambuto:

Comic Ollie doesn't ricochet his arrows.

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Ooh, you found two feats across 75 years of publication history. Big deal.

Guess what. CW Green Arrow only needed five years before getting a ricochet feat.

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#31  Edited By nickzambuto

The Arrow fanbase is probably one if the worst on CV, and that's saying something.

How dare I have a contrary opinion to you on a meaningless, arbitrary fantasy battle. I'm definitely one of the worst people for that, aren't I?

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Ooh, you found two feats across 75 years of publication history. Big deal.

Guess what. CW Green Arrow only needed five years before getting a ricochet feat.

Oh come on nick, you have to at least try.

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@nickzambuto:

Ooh, you found two feats across 75 years of publication history. Big deal.

Guess what. CW Green Arrow only needed five years before getting a ricochet feat.

But... Those aren't his only two. I'm just not going to spam the thread with every feat Oliver has ever performed. Those two are within years of each other and part of the same continuity.

And when has CW Green Arrow ricocheted an arrow?

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@nickzambuto said:

Ooh, you found two feats across 75 years of publication history. Big deal.

Guess what. CW Green Arrow only needed five years before getting a ricochet feat.

Oh come on nick, you have to at least try.

I'm trying more than you are if that's your argument.

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@nickzambuto: Read it yourself for once... Daredevil vol.5 #16.

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@lubub55 said:

@nickzambuto:

Ooh, you found two feats across 75 years of publication history. Big deal.

Guess what. CW Green Arrow only needed five years before getting a ricochet feat.

But... Those aren't his only two. I'm just not going to spam the thread with every feat Oliver has ever performed. Those two are within years of each other and part of the same continuity.

And when has CW Green Arrow ricocheted an arrow?

In the crossover when he fired an arrow underneath a van, skidded off the pavement and hit a gunman on the other side.

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@nickzambuto: I don't remember him ricocheting it. Scan please.

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Scans or it didn't happen bitch.

You need to calm down. Don't call users names.

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The Arrow fanbase is probably one if the worst on CV, and that's saying something.

Ehhhmmm, not even close.

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Maybe I'll come back when nick calms down.

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@jashro44 said:
@nickzambuto said:

Scans or it didn't happen bitch.

You need to calm down. Don't call users names.

I'm pretty sure he was joking.

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@nickzambuto said:

@lubub55: I can't scan a TV show.

Fizz does it with Buffy all the time

He's joking, because "scan" is technically the wrong term for getting GIFs from shows.

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@lubub55 said:
@jashro44 said:
@nickzambuto said:

Scans or it didn't happen bitch.

You need to calm down. Don't call users names.

I'm pretty sure he was joking.

I didn't interpret it as a joke. And him and ghostravage have never exactly been on friendly terms.

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@nickzambuto: I don't remember him ricocheting it. Scan please.

Also here:

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@nickzambuto: unless I missed the issue where Matt had his throat closed, got stabbed through the chest and then fell off a mountaintop, and was fine the next day with only basic medical treatment "because will power."

Resorting to lies now, are we?

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@nickzambuto: Read it yourself for once... Daredevil vol.5 #16.

I know why you don't want to post the scans.

Because you know that Daredevil bullet timed. You read the issue, and you know that Matt made it absolutely crystal clear that it is impossible for him to dodge a bullet, saying multiple times that, even though he's alive, he was already dead the moment Bullseye fired.

You won't post the scans because you don't want people to know this, you want to pretend that Daredevil bullet timed in that issue, and you're banking on the fact that barely anybody on this website actually reads comic books, so that nobody can disprove you.

But you underestimated me.

You didn't expect that I had the issue.

And now that I take a look at it, I can post this scan.

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It's too bad that Daredevil isn't Vandal Savage. That's a character who actually can deflect rifle rounds after they are fired very comfortably.

And what's this? Would you look at that. It's Oliver tagging Vandal Savage with arrows and fending him off singlehandedly, right after the Flash himself was beaten, Oliver was the one who handled it.

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@nickzambuto: unless I missed the issue where Matt had his throat closed, got stabbed through the chest and then fell off a mountaintop, and was fine the next day with only basic medical treatment "because will power."

Resorting to lies now, are we?

Prove me wrong.

Three days passed between Oliver fighting Ra's and returning to the city.

He woke up one day later and left. It took him two days to make his way back to the city.

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Daredevil can dodge/catch arrows. Also, no one on the team is as skilled as him.