5 Elder Stars vs August & Irene

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Win by any means

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#2  Edited By DerTilt

The Duo has so many ways to get rid of the Gorosei its not funny anymore

August alone can put them to sleep via sleep magic,copy their abilitys and makes himself immune to them,Crush which ignores regen,or the vapes them until nothing is left.On top of having better and consistent pre-cog as FS will ever has+Meteor.The gorosei will never be able to hit him.And barrier magic which makes the duo untouchable.

I dont even need to mention how broken enchantment magic is

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@dertilt said:

The Duo has so many ways to get rid of the Gorosei its not funny anymore

August alone can put them to sleep via sleep magic

Can and has been resisted with willpower.

,copy their abilitys

Literally can't do this they don't have magic

and makes himself immune to them,

Again they don't have magic.

Crush which ignores regen,

No it doesn't.

or the vapes them until nothing is left.

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On top of having better and consistent pre-cog as FS will ever has

Lol no.

+Meteor.The gorosei will never be able to hit him.And barrier magic which makes the duo untouchable.

literally never stopped him from getting tagged.

I dont even need to mention how broken enchantment magic is

Facts.

OT- I agree the duo wins for now but some of this is just untrue

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#4  Edited By J9

Bump raws are out

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Any Gorosei solos lol

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#6  Edited By dogsrus

gorosei are ass but augaust and Irene are worse august continental with his best attacck and irene weaker than that gorosei should win pretty easy but the fairy tail mismatches are insane

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#7  Edited By DerTilt

Lol at the top 2 SP12 are weak.

Strongest gorosei got stopped by the 2 giants

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Saturn steamrolls the S12

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#9  Edited By dogsrus

@dertilt: they are rewatch fairytail august the strongest one of the spriggan 12 was only continental with his suicidal bomb but you may be right the gorosei are weak

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Bump translations out.

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Not sure what this chapter changes. The giant duo fodders blocked and smashed one of them, and previously sliced the other Elder. The chapter just proves the Elders are glass cannons with low attack power.

August casts a sleeping spell or Irene enchants them into rats, either which bypass their regeneration and KOs them.

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Nothing has changed other than Saturn potentially dropping August with poison

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Saturn killing August with poison is like saying Cobra or Bloodman kill August with their poison. Not happening.

Weaker Spriggans solo these 5 fodders, let alone the top 2 strongest.

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@dimitri1220: bloodman very much could but he's weaker than August. Half the point of poison is for dealing with conventionally stronger opponents

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Any gorosie solos the springgan.

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@edgelord91: August canonically fodderizes Bloodman so that's wrong

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@dogsrus said:

@dertilt: they are rewatch fairytail august the strongest one of the spriggan 12 was only continental with his suicidal bomb but you may be right the gorosei are weak

No,Dragon Irene is the strongest SP12

Both scales to Suzaku as both are stronger as Gildarts

If Dory and Broggy can overpower a Gorosei,Team 2 fingerflix them away

Nothing has changed other than Saturn potentially dropping August with poison

Lol,August against a far more potent poison user

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#18  Edited By shirso

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No,Dragon Irene is the strongest SP12

Both scales to Suzaku as both are stronger as Gildarts

If Dory and Broggy can overpower a Gorosei,Team 2 fingerflix them away

I don't understand, do the giants have anti feats or something? August got stabbed by Brandish who has non existent physical feats lol.

Lol,August against a far more potent poison user

He doesn't need poison as the eye powers are enough but August is not even actually resisting the poison there and Saturn should scale above a more powerful poison user in Magellan.

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@shirso said:

@dertilt:

No,Dragon Irene is the strongest SP12

Both scales to Suzaku as both are stronger as Gildarts

If Dory and Broggy can overpower a Gorosei,Team 2 fingerflix them away

I don't understand, do the giants have anti feats or something? August got stabbed by Brandish who has non existent physical feats lol.

Lol,August against a far more potent poison user

He doesn't need poison as the eye powers are enough but August is not even actually resisting the poison there and Saturn should scale above a more powerful poison user in Magellan.

Being Mr.3 Victims?

Yet August took Gildarts strongest punch and just got a bloody lip

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No,being stronger does not mean Saturns poison is stronger as Magellans poison who ate the Doku Doku.

Just because Ruffy is>Ace,does not mean his Redhawk is>Ace Fire

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@dertilt:

Being Mr.3 Victims?

Mr. 3's wax only restrained a very injured giant who had taken an explosion right inside their stomach and a direct hit from their peer immediately before. And why can't they have grown stronger almost 1000 chapters later lol?

Also Mr. 3's wax has consistently been portrayed as very durable, well above Mr. 3's own physical tier, without any anti feats either.

No,being stronger does not mean Saturns poison is stronger as Magellans poison who ate the Doku Doku.

Just because Ruffy is>Ace,does not mean his Redhawk is>Ace Fire

You are using the same kind of logic with August being able to resist Cobra's poison lol.

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#21  Edited By Dimitri1220

Saturn's eye powers have feats of killing a normal human and knocking back Sanji/Bonney yet mfs find this impressive

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@dertilt: That's just August slapping him because of better stats not poison resistance

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Wow there's a lot of down play to Dorry and Broggy here but at the same time Little Garden was a long time ago. Well all remember Dorry drinking the ale and having the bomb blow up in his gut. What people forget is immediately after the explosion he accused Luffy of it and proceeded to attack him. The two fought and with a Gum GumRocket attack to the gut (right where the ale exploded) he was able to knock Dorry unconscious with the pain.

Moments later the volcano goes off and Dorry wakes up to go fight Broggy. Luffy was ready to stop him, but Dorry took the massive island skull and dropped it on Luffy, which requires some panels to emphasis just the strength needed to do this. This is a map of Little Garden. Those are the bones of the two sea kings Dorry and Broggy killed that eventually lead up to their dual.

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Dorry lifted the one he setup camp at and dropped it on Luffy:

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With the 2nd image we see some good scaling in sizes but also take note of the trees. They are as tall if not taller than Dorry. It is only then you can start to grasp just how massive these skulls out and how impressive of a feat it was to lift it and drop it on Luffy AFTER having his gut blown up and taking hits from Luffy minutes ago.

Let me remind you, those are the skulls of the sea kings they each individually killed!

Also, let's not forget that their signature move that killed the Island eater gold fish at the end of this arc is similar to the move kaido and Big mom used:

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On top of that now the two giants have fresh new weapons (there last ones broke). So seeing them hold their own against the Gorosei actually makes sense.

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base jupiter is enough to deal with them

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Gorosei immortality FTW.

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Irene immobilizes them and gg.

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The five elders overpower the sprigan due to their immortality, regeneration, and superior Ap, making it impossible for the sprigan to defeat them.

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Irene turns them all to mice, uses BFR, or instantly floods the area.

August can copy Irene’s magic and do the same, or he can vape them with his fire nuke, crush them to pieces, etc. While the Gorosei are immortal, there’s no evidence that they can regen from nothing like Zeref. Every time they regen, there’s always a part of them left to regen from, so a single nuke from August works until shown otherwise. Same goes for logias, people love giving them regen feats that they don’t have.

There can even be an argument that Irene can remove their devil fruits powers since she’s shown the ability to affect different power systems via conceptual enchantments.

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Venus alone is enough to win on his own. Far too fast and more than enough raw power to end the fight in seconds. Not only that, but most of their hax gets nulled when Elders naturally emit immense levels of Haki.

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2 Large Planetlevel beings vs 5 frauds...fair fight

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@dertilt: august and irene are large planet level?????????????

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@dertilt said:

2 Large Planetlevel beings vs 5 frauds...fair fight

No one here is large planet level. Lets not get carried away.

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@numbersmatter:

Good enough to survive being blown to pieces and reforming from that. Not only that, but good enough Haki like Garp's can already put long-lasting bruises on people like Marco who has no issue regenerating from having parts of his body removed or destroyed but did from those Haki-attacks from Garp which stayed on him for a good portion of the war, despite that though the Gorosei are regenerating constantly from Haki of the same level if not better which shows they have a counter to dealing with minor regeneration-null.

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@dogsrus said:

@dertilt: august and irene are large planet level?????????????

Scaling to Suzaku and co,yes

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@pics: oh
Then August's crush, Fairy law, Fairy Glitter, Aria's death wind, genesis zero or just vaping them works.
Crush and vaping them only if you wanna go with what august actually uses.

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@numbersmatter:

That’s all moot to me when I don’t realistically think they prevent Venus from just blitzing them off the bat.

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@pics said:

@numbersmatter:

That’s all moot to me when I don’t realistically think they prevent Venus from just blitzing them off the bat.

Boo

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@numbersmatter:

We've already been over this, there's no real reactionary feat in the Galaxia Blade summoning, in the manga it's not possible to tell it was reacted to, in the anime it's not possible to tell it was reacted to, the immediate summoning of the attack even conveyed by the anime showed that the light had visibly expanded already upon reaching their location and when we cut to Mard Geer's perspective, he's already hit by the light given off which means the attack could have already hit the ground and actively expanding in the duration we're shown looking at Mard Geer's reaction.

Fairy law, Fairy Glitter, Aria's death wind, genesis zero

Also, since you think these are win-cons, what is it that these abilities can do here? I'm a little confused on why these put down any Gorosei member.

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#42  Edited By nassergrant19
@dertilt said:
@dogsrus said:

@dertilt: august and irene are large planet level?????????????

Scaling to Suzaku and co,yes

Suzaku>>>

Shameless leeching

Don’t even

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@pics said:

Venus alone is enough to win on his own. Far too fast and more than enough raw power to end the fight in seconds. Not only that, but most of their hax gets nulled when Elders naturally emit immense levels of Haki.

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@pics said:

@numbersmatter:

We've already been over this, there's no real reactionary feat in the Galaxia Blade summoning, in the manga it's not possible to tell it was reacted to, in the anime it's not possible to tell it was reacted to, the immediate summoning of the attack even conveyed by the anime showed that the light had visibly expanded already upon reaching their location and when we cut to Mard Geer's perspective, he's already hit by the light given off which means the attack could have already hit the ground and actively expanding in the duration we're shown looking at Mard Geer's reaction.

Fairy law, Fairy Glitter, Aria's death wind, genesis zero

Also, since you think these are win-cons, what is it that these abilities can do here? I'm a little confused on why these put down any Gorosei member.

I was just messing with you with the csk stuff. But if we use your interpretation, mard geer is still reacting to the attack-
"the attack could have already hit the ground and actively expanding in the duration we're shown looking at Mard Geer's reaction."




Fairy law negs anyone that the user views as an enemy.
Fairy glitter is just a powerful attack that does soul destruction, you can add layers too.
Aria's death wind is like death hax, sucks up life.
genesis zero is ee.

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@numbersmatter:

I was just messing with you with the csk stuff. But if we use your interpretation, mard geer is still reacting to the attack-

"the attack could have already hit the ground and actively expanding in the duration we're shown looking at Mard Geer's reaction."

Well nah, It already made impact at that point, the dissipation of the beam of light doesn't exactly mean it's still in possession of that speed, unless there's no physical force in the attack which I doubt.

Fairy law negs anyone that the user views as an enemy.

Negs in what way and what are it's feats?

Fairy glitter is just a powerful attack that does soul destruction, you can add layers too.

Layers like what and it's just attacking the soul?

Aria's death wind is like death hax, sucks up life.

But-how does it put down immortals? "Life-Energy" in OP corresponds to lifespan in OP and immortals have an indefinite amount of that.

genesis zero is ee

Yeah, I remember it being able to devour souls and the very essence of the person and when have August/irene used this or is there any implications they did?

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#47  Edited By numbersmatter
@pics said:

@numbersmatter:

I was just messing with you with the csk stuff. But if we use your interpretation, mard geer is still reacting to the attack-

"the attack could have already hit the ground and actively expanding in the duration we're shown looking at Mard Geer's reaction."

Well nah, It already made impact at that point, the dissipation of the beam of light doesn't exactly mean it's still in possession of that speed, unless there's no physical force in the attack which I doubt.

Fair.


Fairy law negs anyone that the user views as an enemy.

Negs in what way and what are it's feats?

it destroys what the caster views as evil. It's like a conceptual attack.


Seems to have fear hax too cuz jose is so scared he's just standing there, trembling.
and it destroyed some goons.

Fairy glitter is just a powerful attack that does soul destruction, you can add layers too.

Layers like what and it's just attacking the soul?


Basic magic in ft uses soul manip.

2nd scan is just more evidene backing that up

Dragon slayers can affect dragons who are immune to magic, and harm their souls.

and fairy glitter is likely above dragon slayer magic.

and yeah ig it only attacks the soul, ofc the body as well. Curses too but that's not really relevant. it might function the same way fairy law does tho.

I put the anime scan cuz I did NOT understand what bluenote was saying in the 4th panel.


Aria's death wind is like death hax, sucks up life.

But-how does it put down immortals? "Life-Energy" in OP corresponds to lifespan in OP and immortals have an indefinite amount of that.

A weaker attack of Aria sucks up life force, and the more you have of it, the more it affects you. (his death wind would obviously be more powerful than this)

2nd scan is showing that both magic and life force are the same thing. (Cuz in the first scan it just says that magic=Life force but not that life force=magic, if that makes sense)

And Irene has shown to be able to suck up infinite magic.
So since August scales to Irene, he should also be able to do that aswell.


What type of immortality do the 5 stars have tho? Thought it was only regen

genesis zero is ee

Yeah, I remember it being able to devour souls and the very essence of the person and when have August/irene used this or is there any implications they did?

It's actually more than that.

August is said to be able to use every type of magic, and might know more than zeref.


He might be able to use curses aswell.

Since Zeref created fairy law, and cana used fairy glitter on him, August having those 2 abilities is more likely.

But as I said before, if you wanna go with what August uses, then that's fine.

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@dertilt said:
@dogsrus said:

@dertilt: august and irene are large planet level?????????????

Scaling to Suzaku and co,yes

Suzaku>>>

Shameless leeching

Don’t even

LOL

Dragon Irene>Red August>August>~Irene>Gildarts>Suzaku

The top 2 SP12 are still a special case amoung the high-tiers/low-god tiers

Wendy defeated Haku who is~Suzaku and Irene just called her a high enchanter while Irene is a Master Enchanter