2017 High Tier PYP Tourney RD1: @apex_predator vs @shirso(Open for votes)

@shirso: Your welcome. Keep up the good work

@jardinain2: @thorparker_82:

bump

@apex_pretador: Ill get my vote in soon, been busy sorry.

B4V

@jardinain2:

No problem. Just try to make sure it doesn't take too long.

bump

@shirso: @apex_pretador: Vote goes to Apex. Sam made a perfect list of reasons, ill try to add on to that.

For me what did it is Shirso's thoughts that the the creation blades would be effective against someone who has used cosmic awarenesses to detect stuff. (obviously the blades would hurt Thanos, but i don't think Zoro would get close enough for it to count) not to mention the Prep and mind link they would be fighting like a well oiled machine.

Shirso you made several errors when trying to "debunk" Thanos shields, it really sounded like you didn't know much about Annihilation and it hurt your argument. as for Spherical shields, you tried arguing that the ground was affected to it wasn't a complete sphere, which is bonkers, its not like the blast was wrapping around said shields, or that the force of the blow can push the shield down.

Deathhero tried to make it seem like Apex was "lowballing" midora and the like. i dont think he was, and since i have read blood and thunder and knew what he was talking about, a lot of feats you posted (black hole and planetary feats) have been preformed by people MUCH weaker that MIdora or Thanos, i don't think it was a low ball but i think other feats would have been better.

Apex, i think you countered everything and had much more knowledge on your characters (i was really impressed by Vulcan, who you made a compelling case for) overall you debated better i think.

Some mistakes you made were spending to much time on Thanos shields, and not enough time on his offensive abilities and trying to counter the creation blades (you made a good case for that as well, but it could have been much better) i also wish you had used used a prep argument a bit more.

Overall it was really close but Apex conviced more with his argumets, had Shirso gotten another post this might have been different.

Good job to both of you!

@jardinain2:

Thanks for the vote.

@shirso: @apex_pretador: Well I will leave votes open for one more day. But I need to start the next match soon.

@emperorthanos: I can vote, i have read through once and I will once more before voting

@apex_pretador: Whats the vote tally?

@jardinain2:

3-1

@blackestnight93, @cosmic_lantern, @jucaslucasa, @themultiversity, @major_hellstorm, @warlockmage :Quick read guys?

@shirso: i thought about it but i generally avoid anything with the Creation Blades not in Majestros' hands or an Amped Thanos (lightspeed)

i might give it a read, but i won't be voting (no offense)

@warlockmage: Ok, you can still share your thoughts, that would be really nice.

Yep

@shirso: I will try, but ET said he would give this one more day and this seems like a long debate so I may not make it in time.

No pressure really, but do drop a vote if you can.

@shirso: Yeah sure.

Bump, you guys need to be quick.

@shirso: @apex_pretador: My vote goes to Apex Predator, after giving this a quick read, he made fewer mistakes, better arguements and a solid case on why he would win. I agree with most of the stated reasons in others votes.

This was a good debate though, great job guys. Shriso you did good, but I would say Apex covinced me just a bit more than you did, sorry but better luck next time!

@major_hellstorm: Thanks for the vote.

I think this one is decided..the sad part is shirso did so well. He was not at all that behind.

@apex_pretador: NP. Sorry for the shortness, but after seeing you debate here I think I will see what you bring next round (might forget to vite though, lol).

Yeah, he did great and I was already thinking he'd win

Don't worry, I'd tag you.

@apex_pretador: you were being pessimist. You did so well and the last post with even less time, you succeeded to present well.

@shirso: @apex_pretador: Yeah it's 4-1 to Apex. He wins.