


- Takes place in Metropolis Man Of Steel
- Rules and Requirements
- Random Encounter
- Blood Lusted
- No BFR
- Adapted Zod
- Round 1 - Ikaris Vs Zod 1v1
- Bonus Round - Zod has his Kyrptonian soldiers Faora ect.
@heiqn said:
Reservation before big brain debates
Average Zod Fan:
-Noo, you can't just use one high-end feat of Ikaris, he has slower combat speed than Zod.
Average Ikaris Enjoyer:
- haha Island level bullrush go brr
OT = Andrew Garfield Spider-Man statues both.
Zod beats him up.
Ikaris consistently struggled overpowering Devients that couldn’t destroy buildings or lift a metal tree. He is not on Zods level physically. It may take a while because Ikaris was pretty durable, but Zod breaks him eventually.
Reservation before big brain debates
Average Zod Fan:
-Noo, you can't just use one high-end feat of Ikaris, he has slower combat speed than Zod.
Average Ikaris Enjoyer:
- haha Island level bullrush go brr
OT = Andrew Garfield Spider-Man statues both.
@allhellkingdox: you tend to downplay the deviants a lot though, to the point where they sound street level. The ones that gave Ikaris trouble were just that good. Ikaris wasn't damaged by getting close to the sun at ridiculous speed until he reached the surface but some deviants could hurt him.
OT: This is a good battle. Not sure who takes it, but I don't see anyone stomping. The force and heat of the sun feat means that heat vision probably won't work on Ikaris and he can take a number of punches from Zod. Zod more consistently uses his speed in combat, especially when enraged, but Ikaris should be able to react to any of Zod's movements. Ikaris has better heat vision damage output and control but Zod's punches seem more powerful on average.
Reservation before big brain debates
Average Zod Fan:
-Noo, you can't just use one high-end feat of Ikaris, he has slower combat speed than Zod.
Average Ikaris Enjoyer:
- haha Island level bullrush go brr
OT = Andrew Garfield Spider-Man statues both.
Reservation before big brain debates
Average Zod Fan:
-Noo, you can't just use one high-end feat of Ikaris, he has slower combat speed than Zod.
Average Ikaris Enjoyer:
- haha Island level bullrush go brr
OT = Andrew Garfield Spider-Man statues both.
Why are people still using the deviants as anit feats? It's outright stated that he wasn't serious and just stalling for time. His fight against the other eternals is what should be used
OT: likely zod. Ikaris could potentially take since he is more than willing to sit back and spam eye beams. His feat of destroying their ship is kinda underrated. That ship flew right next to the sun at the start of the movie and took no damage yet he casually destroyed it with his beams. Could be argued for an outlier though
Why are people still using the deviants as anit feats? It's outright stated that he wasn't serious and just stalling for time. His fight against the other eternals is what should be used
OT: likely zod. Ikaris could potentially take since he is more than willing to sit back and spam eye beams. His feat of destroying their ship is kinda underrated. That ship flew right next to the sun at the start of the movie and took no damage yet he casually destroyed it with his beams. Could be argued for an outlier though
The forest fight doesn’t look like he’s stalling to me. The Deviant had him completely pinned to the ground and he had to be saved Sersi. Like Ikaris stated he was stalling, they also made sure to state that he always underestimated Sersi. There’s no way he was leaving his life in her hands.
As for the ship… he attacked the top and bottom down the middle and couldn’t split it. That same ship had chunks break off (NOT where his cosmic eye beams hit) just from crashing into the ground. The ship only had good heat resistance, it’s blunt force durability is subpar.
@rebake: That makes no sense bro the sun destroys things via heat while Deviants pierce things so using that comparison makes no sense
@theemperor95: @rebake: That makes no sense bro the sun destroys things via heat while Deviants pierce things so using that comparison makes no sense
It’s not an outlier because the ship has great heat resistant feats but his cosmic vision busted through the ship not melt it
@rebake: not being damaged by getting close to the sun is irrelevant because whatever your going to try in scale him to falls way short of any energy output the sun would have so don’t even go there clown.
Feat for that deviant huh? Those deviants were stated to be weaker than Kro mind you was getting babyshook by street level Gilgamesh. Those deviants could not toss half a tree off of it. Same deviants could not break sersi metals walls or tag peak human speed Druig. Also a charged attack from kingo killed one mind you he never showed nothing a fraction of building level. Now you see why that isn’t a feat for them?
Like I said Zod claps
@theemperor95: Stop iKaris performed no better in the past against deviants he could only ever take 1 at a time with low to moderate difficulty while sustaining a big gash in his shoulder. So he wasn’t holding back and definitely wouldn’t be doing so to to point where he would be in moral danger.
@allhellkingdox: ikaris stomped the flying deviants in the past he was literally having his way with any of the deviants they showed in the past. Even ripping ones limbs off with his bare hands. I'm not sure where you're getting moderate difficulty from. Nor did he have any serious wounds from any of his fights.
Again this is still ignoring his fight against the other eternals to intentionally lowball him
@allhellkingdox: since we are lowballing
Deviants >>>>> bullet level Clark.
@theemperor95: stomped is not having a big gash in your shoulder, high diff = very close fight sustained heavy damage.
Moderate difficulty = a Challenge but nothing to serious
Low difficulty = Easy fight could end at anytime
Stomped = No match whatsoever
iKaris vs deviants clearly falls in the moderate difficulty range. What exactly does he fight against the other Eternals prove? They’re not impressive at all Either and all fall far below Zod.
@supermanwin1875: Boy your pathetic making alts on a comic website to troll you’ve been trying to get my attention for weeks now clown.
Even if we assume Clark was knocked out looool he was hit with a Warthog bullet which are Mach 2 and larger than a beer bottle. Vs Deviants which pierced by a measly double barrel shotgun shells not even in the same realm of comparison.
Now stop tagging me boy
@supermanwin1875: Boy your pathetic making alts on a comic website to troll you’ve been trying to get my attention for weeks now clown.
Even if we assume Clark was knocked out
looool he was hit with a Warthog bullet which are Mach 2 and larger than a beer bottle. Vs Deviants which pierced by a measly double barrel shotgun shells not even in the same realm of comparison.
Clark feels bullets like 60mph baseballs
Lol, you keep using the deviants one anti-feat and ignore superlame's 30+ anti-feats?
Clark is scared of a falling building, runs, yet gets hurt by some falling debris inside of it
Clark is rekt by a fodder tier explosion.
Clark feels bullets like 60mph baseballs
Clark is knocked out by a single bullet.
Clark is pinned by the gravity that existed on Krypton and exhausts his powers fighting it back.
Clark is knocked out by an oil derrick.
Clark is knocked out by impacts that barely damage the street.
Clark is hurt by a falling car and an impact that barely damages the street.
Clark is hurt by a Kryptonian blast and the impact is tanked by a truck. Blasts tanked by plane engines despite their fuel getting ignited, and multiple were needed to bust a door
Clark is hurt by a punch that barely shifts some tables
Clark is hurt by an punch that's no-selled by a restaurant floor.
Clark is hurt by hits that barely damage the street, and tries to avoid/run away from them
Clark's slam is no-selled by the street
Clark's bullrush barely damages the street
Clark is scared of a ground pound that is tanked by an already damaged part of the street.
Clark can't physically break out of a push that is no-selled by an already damaged part of the street.
Clark is knocked out by a train car in freefall
Clark is hurt by going through a gas tank
Clark's flight-assisted headbutt barely damages the memorial pavement
Clark's pimp slap tanked by a peak human and a police car
Clark's vice grip tanked by a peak human for nearly a whole minute
Clark's shoulder check no-selled by gravestones
Clark's 1 arm pull barely damages 1 stair
Clark's 2 arm pull barely damages 2 stairs
Clark's jump stomp is tanked by memorial pavement
Clark is knocked out after being thrown through a bunch of windows
Clark is hurt by a metal bar that, while significantly weakened by his heat vision, no-sells the impact
Doomsday, a Zod amped beyond his biological limits, expands with more force and damage than Clark ever hit Zod with, and is no-selled by extremely damaged dirt in his re-entry crater
Clark is knocked out by Doomsday's double-handed slam, which is either barely damaged or no-sold by pavement
Doomsday is also hurt more by 10 kg tnt missiles/bullets than Clark's flying punches, bullrushes, and cheapshots.
Speaking of cheapshots, Clark's orbital bullrush barely damages the roof of an already weakened building
Nuclear Doomsday forces Clark and Diana back from far away while failing to kill a peak human and a regular human
Nuclear Doomsday's punch is tanked by this very same extremely damaged dirt.
his bullrush barely damages some debris,
His slam(embeds his arm into the blade, connects with the ground after) is no-selled by extremely damaged pavement.
And it's not like the sword could do much either. He fled her attack earlier, and it barely damaged the ground.
How does Clark respond to such power? Well...
Nuclear Doomsday while amped with Clark/Diana's hits can't break free of a lasso pull that is held tight and no-selled by a stone block.
Now stop tagging me boy
@allhellkingdox: it wasn't even a large gash. He was tearing apart the deviant with his bare hands blasting it all over the place. It was a very one sided affair.
His fight with the eternals proves that his speed (due to his fight with makkari and his flight to the sun) is much higher then he actually showed against the deviants meaning he was holding back. He also showed that he eye beams can slam someone over a dozen feet (likely dozens) through solid earth with great ease. Again a level of power he didn't use against the deviants. Destroying a ship that no sold flying next to the sun is another level of power he didn't show against the deviants. Hell thena sliced that advanced deviant to pieces and yet he casually caught her blades with his bare hands. You're literally trying to use his fight against the deviants to lowball when the only time we know he went all out is against the eternals and as such that is what should be used
@samjackson: @supremekilla010: I mean we see that his heat vision primarily burns targets from when he hits one of the eternals and even whenever he hits deviants they are burning. I'll have to double check but I thought the ship even flew by a solar flare when it was passing the sun. Could be wrong as I don't remember the specifics of that scene.
Also he was never really in danger with that deviant imo. It only stopped him from shooting it with his beams. Ikaris didn't even try to fly or physically grab just only shoot with his eyes. In any case that was the primary fight they had against the deviants which he himself said he was just stalling for time
@theemperor95: it was a large gash and him beating that deviant again is not impressive when they are street tier level monsters my point remains the deviants which is street tier managed to damage him easily at that.
His speed he was shown to be the exact same throughout the film you can only say travel speed which is dead useless in combat as we saw, Makkari blitz ikaris at sub Mach speeds in they’re fight because we see the Mach cone after the initial blitz, Namek a kryptonian far slower than Zod bull rushes at Mach+ speeds casually meaning Zod would have no Problem tagging ikaris I mean slow ass deviants had no problem tagging ikaris throughout the entire film. Kro and Thena both tagged Makkari yet you don’t believe they’re statuing Anyone do you?
Deviants have withstood his cosmic vision quite well iKaris was not holding back against them he performed no better in the past then present he’s literally only able to take down 1 deviant at a time. Stop wanking that fodder ship that broke apart from falling a 100 feet, the kryptonian mothership fell through skyscrapers then crashes landed with no damaged at all and Zod and Clark casually broke tha, add it fell from a much higher altitude.
Thena cutting Kro and not iKaris (Which she did when the sharp part of her sword came out he clearly let go and said Och) means nothing but ikaris has better durability then said Deviant we saw bullets pierced them Gilgamesh even punched his jaw apart.
Literally not lowballing lol I’m using the bulk of his fights as a sample size which he was not holding back.
Like I said Zod is faster stronger and much much better durability and better AP he folds ikaris easily
@allhellkingdox: 1. Again we see him fight the deviant on screen and he's literally having his way with it. You make it sound like it's a life threatening would lol it wasn't anything as serious as you're trying to make it seem. Also if a deviant is able to cut him then that's a feat for the deviant as he was able to catch thena blade with his bare hands.
2. LMAO at makkari fight at sub mach speeds. We see her travel around the world in seconds (which was mach 8k iirc) and this time she's fighting for her life so there's no reason for her to suddenly fight at sub mach speeds. Again pitiful lowball attempt. Thena tagged makkari only because makkari was literally holding onto her as she took her away. Kro used an AOE blast to tag her lmao. Again more pitiful lowball attempts. Ikaris however physically moved to intercept her when he tagged her.
3. Him destroying the ship would be a testament to the heat but as I said before that could easily be an outlier for it. Also it's an outright lie to say that crashing did nothing to the kryptonine ship as once it crash all of the eggs inside were destroyed. Also again deviants withstand his vision is a feat for the deviants since he can literally push people over a dozen feet through solid earth with it.
4. No bullets ever pierced kro? And gilgamesh has hit deviants hard enough to topple buildings. This is also before kro absorbs gilgamesh
5. You are quite literally lowballing lmao we have one set of fights where we know ikaris is trying as hard as he can and that's against the eternals. His fights against the deviants earlier in the movie were him stalling. Even the fights back in time you're acting like he struggled lmao when we see him body a deviant ease. He was 0 issues whatsoever.
However if we are going to use lowball feats then faora was KOd by a building level missile. Which means building level missile>>>superman since he couldn't KO faora. All kryptonines have under building level strength. That's me using her main fight scene to now draw conclusions just like you
It would be generous to compare Zod's best feats to Ikaris's and realize that Zod is outmatched. It would be fair to compare Zod's shockwaves to Ikaris's, and then you realize that Ikaris solos this verse
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@divyansh13 said:
yo u back?
Yes, I came back after 2 months of peace.
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