10 Tails Obito + Edo Rinnegan Madara VS Current Meliodas + Demon King Zeldris

Juubito solos

Obito solo stomps.

Obito solos.

Black orbs = negates chakra techniques right? It was a while ago i read the breakdown of how it works and why it hardcounters so many things in detail.

My point is, the properties the black orbs hardcounter now also include magic. the feats with them should be difficult to apply outside of naruto world, but the rules in this battle pretty much makes this very one-sided since the orbs now hardcounter magic as well.

Team Madara wins.

None of their magic will work since he could easily absorb them with his Rinnegan. H2H is not advisable because Madara could also use his Rinnegan to take out their Souls. They also have no defense against Madara's Limbo.

This.

Juubito Vapes them. Mismatch.

Even Edo Madara solo stomps

Juubito solos.

No, Edo madara would get stomped by either one here.

@mattyboi: No he wouldn't.

Give me feats to back this up first, then we debate this.

Team 1 stomps hard, glad the NNT dead a little:)

@animefreak1: Meliodas in a far weaker form casually busting danafor and surrounding area, which is calc'd to island level with lowball since danafor was a country. Ban can casually do island level punches.

DK Meliodas casually makes small country level explosions

Show me feats from edo madara that compare to this then we debate.

@mattyboi: Edo Tensei Madara with his IMPERFECT SUSANOO ALONE (2nd weakest variant) was able to tank the 2nd Form Ten Tails's Tenpechii which was ravaging the entire planet (Calc'd to at LEAST Multi Continental)

@animefreak1:

Edo Tensei Madara with his IMPERFECT SUSANOO ALONE (2nd weakest variant) was able to tank the 2nd Form Ten Tails's Tenpechii which was ravaging the entire planet (Calc'd to at LEAST Multi Continental)

That wasnt the direct attack from it, just the shockwaves, even fodder shinobis could survive it and still be able to fight after.

@mattyboi: You realize Madara was LITERALLY in the center of it right?

And those fodder shinobi only survived it because a BM Naruto used the rest of his chakra for that form to power their Chakra cloaks to be able to survive said attack.

@joviolma said:

1. Demon King's The Ruler negates that with the power of "Inversion."

2. Meliodas' Full Counter and Vanish Counter also take care of that.

3. That takes Prep time.

@animefreak1 said:

@mattyboi: Edo Tensei Madara with his IMPERFECT SUSANOO ALONE (2nd weakest variant) was able to tank the 2nd Form Ten Tails's Tenpechii which was ravaging the entire planet (Calc'd to at LEAST Multi Continental)

Lol! that affected the shoreline of the country not the planet.

Meliodas and DK cause massive natural disasters to Britannia, even the earth is splitting, tornadoes are caused and weather is broken:

@kallinalli: The attack is AT LEAST MULTI CONTINENT Level.

It was calculated as such.

And whitebeard is casually continental... naruto calcs are actually nonsense pixel scaling that cherry pick frames and sizes that keep getting contradicted. Like in the movie or in Boruto, the tree is nowhere near as big as the calcs claim.

Even in the worst calcs the tree (which filled that seaside area of that country) was never actually country sized itself. That attack is not multicontinental even at best case scenario...

@kallinalli: Suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrrrrrreeeeeee.......................................

Watching these two fan bases go at it is always entertaining

@animefreak1: That attack is country at best(not) and its coming from a Naruto fan

Whitebeard, or anyone in One Piece being Continental, casually or otherwise, is the epitome of OP wank garbage.

@animefreak1: dude, its like posting a scan of some1 busting a mountain and say, look, he destroyed a continent.

People seem to be forgetting that magic being equal to chakra works both ways. The Ruler and Full Counter are now effective ways to deal with practically all of the other teams arsenal. I'd say this comes down to whether or whether not TSB's fall under the category of a conventional chakra attack and how Meliodas' destroyer magic would effect the 2 Shinobi, which is rather hard to tell given how it's been used exactly once so far and it's workings are extremely unclear.

Team 2 low diff

Obito solos.

Only 10 tails Obito is relevant here. Madara gets stomped by either of team 2.

That said, Obito stomps them both. They need more feats.

@kallinalli: I am still waiting for 50-80 × FTL Mayuri calc.

Obito solostomps

Perfect susanoo Ems madara is far stronger physically than anyone in the NNT VERSE

@animefreak1:

You realize Madara was LITERALLY in the center of it right?

No he wasnt, he just tanked the shockwaves.

And those fodder shinobi only survived it because a BM Naruto used the rest of his chakra for that form to power their Chakra cloaks to be able to survive said attack.

Again only took the shockwaves like madara, BM Naruto's chakra isnt enough to survive it head on.

DK and meliodas can do the same thing too, they can casually make storms and earth splitting etc.

Since chakra=magic, team 2 maybe able to take it unless obito uses taijutsu the whole fight.

None of NNT haxes would not work on Naruto team they don't have any potency higher than small country.

Even in tajijutsu battle both Perfect susanoo madara and obito can defeat the team.

About that tenpenchi which madara tanked has AP of multi continent level but I wouldn't say PS has that much durability but has easily around large country which is still far beyond NNT team reach

@mattyboi: And the small country level explosion isn't too impressive.

Even Kage Level Shinobi are Country Level.

@hittheassasin: Actually, FC could prove to be a death wish if Obito decides to go for his Juubidama in a barrier set-up. While Obito won’t be affected because of his TSB shield, if Meliodas FC’s a Juubidama, it will explode inside the barrier with amplified force, which would instakill Meliodas and overheal DK.

Juubito solos.

Full counter is directional, the blast going off inside the barrier would hit from every possible angle, he can definitely counter the undetonated bombs but after that hes screwed

@animefreak1:

And the small country level explosion isn't too impressive.

Even Kage Level Shinobi are Country Level.

No they aren't, only the ten tails and above are country level.

@mattyboi: Are you kidding me bro? They have statements scaling, and feats to back this up.

Orochimaru has been stated to be able to destroy a Small Country by himself from Hiruzen's words.

Akatsuki member are High S Rank Shinobi and are each worth thousand of shinobi as stated by the data book. And before you say that's just statement, they meant thousands of average shinobi like Genin and Chunin. Plus most of them (Except for maybe Hidan) are Multi Country level at least and actually have the statements and feats to back it up, Sasori just being one of the prime examples of this.

And Sasori is one of the Low-Mid Tier Members of the group. For Deidara who's on his level, Kakuzu, Itachi, Kisame, Konan, Obito, and Nagato who are above him, that would make them AT LEAST Multi Country Level. Plus Kage level ninja have displayed plenty of feats that are at least Country level..... Tsunade cracking Edo Madara's Imperfect Susanoo, 7th gate Guy's Afternoon Tiger which dwarfed the Island Turtle...... who is as big as Multiple Islands, etc, etc......

@animefreak1:

Orochimaru has been stated to be able to destroy a Small Country by himself from Hiruzen's words.

Referring to the people in the country, not the country itself, which is actually backed up by what he's shown to be able to do.

Akatsuki member are High S Rank Shinobi and are each worth thousand of shinobi as stated by the data book. And before you say that's just statement, they meant thousands of average shinobi like Genin and Chunin. Plus most of them (Except for maybe Hidan) are Multi Country level at least and actually have the statements and feats to back it up, Sasori just being one of the prime examples of this.

Again referring to the people in the country, not the country itself, which is irrelevant since databooks have proven time and time again to not be credible.

Tsunade cracking Edo Madara's Imperfect Susanoo, 7th gate Guy's Afternoon Tiger which dwarfed the Island Turtle...... who is as big as Multiple Islands,

These aren't country level, maybe multi island level at best, Ban who is basically fodder to current meli and DK zeldris can casually throw out island level punches. And this is before getting his sacred treasure.

@mattyboi:

You have no proof that it means just the people in the country dude.

Tsunade cracking Edo Tensei Clone PS is AT LEAST Country Level seeing as Madara is stronger than Kurama..... who can casually bust planets even with just half his power.

Also Guy Hiridouraed Edo Madara's Incomplete PS across the battlefield. That's at LEAST Country Level.

@animefreak1:

You have no proof that it means just the people in the country dude.

The way they used it implied people in the country rather than the country itself, plus this would make sense with what we see from orochimaru, since we see nothing country level from him.

Tsunade cracking Edo Tensei Clone PS is AT LEAST Country Level seeing as Madara is stronger than Kurama..... who can casually bust planets even with just half his power.

Kurama is a mountain buster at best. Cracking the susanno would barely be island level at best.

Also Guy Hiridouraed Edo Madara's Incomplete PS across the battlefield. That's at LEAST Country Level.

That would barely be island level.

@mattyboi: First off, you know that Naruto is a more AP based series right? Not to say they don't have good DC feats, but still.

Kurama is not a mountain buster at best. BARE MINIMUM he's Continent Level by actual feats.

@animefreak1:

Kurama is not a mountain buster at best. BARE MINIMUM he's Continent Level by actual feats.

He's barely a mountain buster by feats

@mattyboi: Kurama feats:

He can create at least a Continent+ Level TBB without charge time whatsoever.

Yes Gyuki/Bee helped out, but this was half Kurama for Naruto.

So a Full Kurama could easily spam multiple TBB of this level in just seconds

In his own personal Tailed Beast Cloak, he was able to go toe to toe with the Otsutsuki Golem which is PLANETARY WITH LOWBALL!

This was Kurama's own power, not Naruto using BM avatar. Here's proof he was outside of Naruto.

His Yang half alone was powerful enough to create a TBB over 10 times the size of his own body which had enough power to blow away entire countries to a small continent, and not to mention the fact it was still growing and getting stronger. And this was with less than 1% of his power left.

Proof that he has only has less than 1% power left

100 Jounin had the power to power up a canon powerful enough to destroy the Moon, even Yang Kurama sneezes 100 Jounin away by ACCIDENT!

@animefreak1:

Yes Gyuki/Bee helped out, but this was half Kurama for Naruto.

So a Full Kurama could easily spam multiple TBB of this level in just seconds

In his own personal Tailed Beast Cloak, he was able to go toe to toe with the Otsutsuki Golem which is PLANETARY WITH LOWBALL!

That attack is mountain level, maybe multi mountain level with insane wank, plus had help from bee for it. So kurama would only be mountain level based off that feat.

Quantify how strong the golem is, because if you can't that feat means nothing.

His Yang half alone was powerful enough to create a TBB over 10 times the size of his own body which had enough power to blow away entire countries to a small continent, and not to mention the fact it was still growing and getting stronger. And this was with less than 1% of his power left.

Those TBBs couldnt blow away countries lol, those TBB could barely destroy mountain range with HELP.

@animefreak1:

100 Jounin had the power to power up a canon powerful enough to destroy the Moon, even Yang Kurama sneezes 100 Jounin away by ACCIDENT!

This has been debunked countless times, I even debunked you using this point in another thread.

They werent even gonna destroy the moon, they were gonna use the chakra cannon to teleport it to another dimension(stated by the raikage himself). They just said they were gonna destroy it because it wasnt in their dimension anymore.

@mattyboi: while the other guy is wrong, Kurama is in no way Mountain lv at his best lmao