Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice Review

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#251 Edited by The_Valeyard (736 posts) - - Show Bio

Just thinking about the Justice League movie, if they already taking it to a so much powerful Doomsday in fighting Wonder Woman and Superman, what kind of overpowered mess they would make to fight the Justice League?

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#252 Posted by zackisme (374 posts) - - Show Bio

In the perfect world, everyone would form their own opinion about a movie only after it's seen. In the perfect world, people would never let someone else influence their opinion about a movie. In the flawed world, people need someone else to do the thinking for them. Those same people give unlimited power to film critics.

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#253 Posted by AbdullahZubair (1039 posts) - - Show Bio

@edstone1 said:

@abdullahzubair: MOS featured a boring and brooding hope-guy,not my Superman. Marvel.s Daredevil respects the source material and shows a love for the comics.

Man Of Steel also respected the source material....Before you reply, you should check what respecting the source material means...It means paying homage and relating to the original material yet offering something completely new and not a complete copy of the original material.... And that boring and brooding hope-guy added new layers and dimensions to a fairly same-same guy in comics...

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#254 Posted by Ashik (25 posts) - - Show Bio

@doc-holiday: Kudos, man! U just made my day by ur statement. I couldn't agree more. She's attractive; I will give her that. But she's just aint Wonder Woman material.

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#255 Posted by AbdullahZubair (1039 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: spoilers:

As a Batman fan does Batman using firearms not trouble you?

Batman not using firearms is what actually bothered me in comics....Especially since he had mastered his aim with all of them...

PS: Watch honest trailer of Batman movie....Keaton killed people in that too and even tried killing Joker

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Well....I didn't expect it to get SO many bad reviews, but a few bad reviews were expected...And the problem with this movie is that most people are used to the kiddish fun movies like GotG, Avengers, IM,etc...So when a darker and more serious movie comes out, they don't have anything good to say about it...Marvel has also made Captain America 2 which was quite dark, yet people liked it... The problem might be that Marvel fanboys have literally killed DC Universe by finding faults in all their previous movies and putting them in your face....Why is it a must now-a-days that before someone saves the universe, he needs to make a joke...?? Why..?? I watch movies with the thought that they can happen in real life...I can't see that happening in real life and looks too fake for the Movie meduim (But still cool in comics tho...Stick to that)...I thought Civil War was going to be serious, but just before they started battling, Iron Man had to shout: "Underoos" instead of kid or spidey or anything at all...

why can't it just be the movie's fault for not being that good? You can have a well written light hearted film (GotG) and you can have a well written dark and gritty film. From what I'm hearing BvS just isn't that well written. Also just want to point out that the reviewer never once compared it to any Marvel films

I haven't watched it yet so can't comment on that...But since the main fault of the movie is the dark theme from most reviews, it is very obvious...

You don't have to say it to make it clear...People now-a-days expect every comic movie to be a funny movie....GotG had it's faults too...The story wasn't that great if you take away the humor... The people shitting on this are the same people who didn't like Man Of Steel...And that was a good movie if you ask a person who likes dark and gritty movies...

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#256 Posted by Doc-Holiday (3850 posts) - - Show Bio

@ashik said:

@doc-holiday: Kudos, man! U just made my day by ur statement. I couldn't agree more. She's attractive; I will give her that. But she's just aint Wonder Woman material.

Seems you're one of the few who agrees.

Most seem to just shrug at poor actor choice.

Thanks for the comment :) I appreciate it

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#257 Posted by CoRo (405 posts) - - Show Bio

@haha_cha_cha: What 5th installment though? MFrank Miller only wrote 3 Dark Knight series: Dark Knight Returns, Dark Knight Strikes Again and DK3. You talking about 5th issue. I don't know. But u should check out my Teen Titans march madness bracket when u get the chance.

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#258 Posted by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:
@gotham331 said:

@farkam: marvel clearly makes a more superior product. Why even entertain anything else

Phase 1 Marvel was great. GotG is the only thing I like from Phase 2. Marvel is getting kind of stale imo.

Blade trinity , Thor , Iron man , Hulk, and Cap

Blade sucked, thor sucked, Hulk sucked.

That a great phase one there kiddo.

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#259 Posted by Frozen (21134 posts) - - Show Bio

@timelordscience: Yes, it bothered me. Spoilers ahead:

It would have been easy if Snyder had just clarified that he uses rubber bullets, but he didn't. So it did annoy me that this version of Batman was so inhumane; even the Dark Knight Returns Batman wouldn't kill, and witheld himself from killing The Joker.

DKR Batman is supposed to be a version of Batman who comes CLOSE to killing but restrains himself from doing so. So there was no reason why Batfleck should set guys on fire AllStar style.

Every single live action version of Batman has killed, but I would have liked some justification or commentary on it. In Batman Begins, we got the scene where Bruce refuses to kill, and although he killed Talia in TDKR, I felt that was justified; I just don't see the idea of Batman killing random thugs as justified.

Batfleck was supposed to represent humanity in this film yet he came across as a savage; he would have been perfect had he not killed in the film.

However I do think Batfleck was the best live action Batman so far, but he is not really that similar to The Dark Knight Returns Batman as I thought he would be.

BvS was a good film too, solid improvement over MOS.

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#260 Posted by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman kills people in this movie. How does this get a pass from anyone who has ever picked up a comic book in their life?

@thearchon: But it's not Batman, simple AS that. Pre-52 Batman didn't kill either, so what's your point?

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Batman never killed huh?

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#261 Posted by Mfundroid (2916 posts) - - Show Bio

@heatforce: Oh the action, lack for a better word, was fabulous. They made sure to use every single cent of that 250 million dollar budget on visuals.

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#262 Posted by tchalla3000 (119 posts) - - Show Bio

Since when is being too serious a bad thing for a movie? Because it's a comic book movie? Batman is a serious character, and he deals with dark issues. The whole mythos of Superman is based on the struggle of ordinary people, a serious issue. Am I missing something? Too many people are so use to Disney movies that they forgot life is serious, and at times hardcore.

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#263 Posted by Jean199999 (571 posts) - - Show Bio

Just thinking about the Justice League movie, if they already taking it to a so much powerful Doomsday in fighting Wonder Woman and Superman, what kind of overpowered mess they would make to fight the Justice League?

Everything in the movie points towards Darseid.

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#264 Posted by CaptainMarvel4Ever (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jestersmiles said:

@alkusanagi said:

Batman kills people in this movie. How does this get a pass from anyone who has ever picked up a comic book in their life?

@captain_batman_ftw said:

@thearchon: But it's not Batman, simple AS that. Pre-52 Batman didn't kill either, so what's your point?

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Batman never killed huh?

Darkseid's the god of apocalypse and the ultimate evil in the DC Universe, pretty sure that's an exception worth making and not a normal circumstance.

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#265 Edited by Ashik (25 posts) - - Show Bio

@doc-holiday: Anytime. Most people probably haven't read a Wonder Woman comic. And just bash out with the feminism lecture & these sorta absurd comments - "u don't know anything, u pervert u disliked her because she doesn't have boobs & ass, right"? I mean what the hell; ladies? Does feminism only depicts how to be a skinny girl & have grudge against men? Give me a break. Does female empowerment ring any bells 2 u ladies, the "I CAN DO" concept..anything? Does gadot depict the "I CAN DO" image much, does she look like she can handle any challenge completely on her own.. NO. Cause she looks more like a slim model than an actual "inspiring in all ways" woman.

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#266 Edited by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

@captainmarvel4ever: Still he killed and he killed more than just here. You also got to take into account that BvS batman is model after the frank miller batman who way more brutal than regular batman. You also got to take into account that his partner was killed, how you think someone with batman already on edge mental state would deal with that? Exactly.

It not like his reasons for killing are not totally unfounded.

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#267 Posted by Doc-Holiday (3850 posts) - - Show Bio

@ashik said:

@doc-holiday: Most people probably haven't read Wonder Woman comic. And just bash out with the feminism lecture & these sorta absurd comments - "u don't know anything, u pervert u disliked her because she doesn't have boobs & ass, right"? I mean what the hell; ladies? Does feminism only depicts how to be a skinny girl & have grudge against men? Give me a break. Does female empowerment ring any bells 2 u ladies, the "I CAN DO" concept..anything? Does gadot depict the "I CAN DO" image much, does she look like she can handle any challenge completely on her own.. NO. Cause she looks more like a slim model than an actual inspiring woman.

It feels like they're going for her purely because of how famous she is right now.

It's like how Chris Pratt was recently in everything and before him it was Keanu Reeves or Christian Bale or Hugh Jackman. Whomever is the biggest/hottest thing gets the best parts, kind of sucks.

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#268 Posted by CaptainMarvel4Ever (9890 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jestersmiles: Just because you can find a few instances where he does dosen' make that part of the character's core concept, or justifies those stories. If we went by that logic it would be ok for Superman to get raped in a porno.

You also got to take into account that his partner was killed, how you think someone with batman already on edge mental state would deal with that?

He's not real, this isn't actually happening, real world logic need not apply here (and if it did there'd be way more problems, not to mention there are plenty of real world people who have gone through intense sh!t and upheld their moral compasses) this is a work of fiction in which the creators have complete control, and if those creators are going to break a core aspect of a character then you can bet I'm going to be vocal about my displeasure. Besides, having a moral character break that morality for the sake of shock value is a lazy writing trope as it is, so from a critical analysis standpoint it gains no quarter there either.

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#269 Posted by Ashik (25 posts) - - Show Bio

@doc-holiday: The real reason is most Americans have a weird obsession or should I say 'fetish' with the skinny body type...mostly for women..I guess. It's considered being skinny is healthy & being healthy is fat. Weird..right?

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#271 Edited by Jestersmiles (9826 posts) - - Show Bio

@captainmarvel4ever:

He's not real, this isn't actually happening, real world logic need not apply here

How is this even a defense? Why won't real logic apply here? I am pretty sure some people would and have snap if someone killed a loved one. Especially when you are trying to make a character seem more relatable. Also like how you contradict yourself by saying don't apply real world logic then immediately follow up by applying real world logic.

not to mention there are plenty of real world people who have gone through intense sh!t and upheld their moral compasses)

Which in reality is not even close to being a good argument because no real life person has gone through what this version of batman has gone through or dealt with.

Fact of the matter is this is BvS take on a already violent take on the original batman, and his actions seem to be justify.

Also this not even the first Movie batman to kill, Keaton's batman killed in his movie also, yet I don't see no one complaining about that little fact.

Fact of the matter this is just "fans" looking for an excuse to hate the movie , when Snyder gives you plenty of real reason to hate on it already.

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#272 Posted by Doc-Holiday (3850 posts) - - Show Bio

@ashik said:

@doc-holiday: The real reason is most Americans have a weird obsession or should I say 'fetish' with the skinny body type...mostly for women..I guess. It's considered being skinny is healthy & being healthy is fat. Weird..right?

Yeah. When ever I see a woman who isn't skeleton thin (regardless of how they look, whether toned, simply full figured or really fat) the general public calls them fat.

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#275 Posted by Edstone1 (228 posts) - - Show Bio

@abdullahzubair: "Hope guy" was Mark Waid's Superman only devoid of colour and personality. I love DC, I just wish they had a young Spielberg to work with and ditched the Nolanverse approach. Lottsa love from Norway:)

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#276 Posted by Frozen (21134 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jestersmiles: Frank Miller's Batman only killed when Milldr jumped the shark.

In Miller's best Batman stories (Batman Year One, Dark Knight Returns), there are several scenes which assert Batman's nokill rule.

Even the older brutal Batman in DKR refused to kill Joker, despite coming close to.

When Miller turned insane with DSKR and All Star, he abondonned the rule.

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#277 Edited by Talonbuster (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually think that a serious, realistic Superman is possible to do. I just don't think making him a brooding husk of himself is the right thing to do that.

I always thought that this DC Cinematic Universe had only one directive to adopt in all its movies: repeat what made Nolan's Dark Knight's trilogy in all of the Cinematic Universe (but I really hope I'm wrong, and I'm glad for seeing Suicide Watch going in another direction).

I didn't like Man of Steel, it felt like Nolan-lite all around. I'm hoping to see this movie soon enough and being proven wrong, but seeing as it apparently didn't change very much from MoS to BvS, I don't hold my hopes high for this one. And the trailers spoiling that the conflict between Batman and Superman indeed happens, but both parts change their minds very soon once Doomsday's around... I mean, why couldn't they keep THAT part hidden?!

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#278 Posted by Frozen (21134 posts) - - Show Bio

@Jestersmiles: Actually, a lot of people explicitly cite Keaton Batman killing as a major criticism; especially the henchman scene where he throws some dude down a well and blows him up.

Bale's Batman also killed Dent and Talia, although I felt they were justified, Nolan decided to include that stupid scene of Bruce blowing up and killing the League of Shadows after promising not to kill.

I think Batfleck will widely regarded as the best Batman on screen, even the negative reviews attest to how good he was; Snyder nailed his fighting skills, psychology and physicality.

But the nokill rule is an issue with all live action Batmen, it's just worse with Keaton and Affleck.

If Affleck's Batman stuck to the nokill rule, he'd be perfect. But as it stands, I think he was better than Bale and Keaton; although I think Bale's portrayal felt more relatable and humane.

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#279 Posted by johnny_blaze (1357 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not surprised by this review. This is Marvel Vine after all.

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#280 Posted by k4tzm4n (41766 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@Jestersmiles: Frank Miller's Batman only killed when Milldr jumped the shark.

In Miller's best Batman stories (Batman Year One, Dark Knight Returns), there are several scenes which assert Batman's nokill rule.

Even the older brutal Batman in DKR refused to kill Joker, despite coming close to.

When Miller turned insane with DSKR and All Star, he abondonned the rule.

To be fair, he does kill once in The Dark Knight Returns - it's when the child is being held hostage.

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#281 Posted by sungod1988 (241 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not a movie reviewer but I am a movie and comic fan. I understand that different types of movies have their place in this world. Not everything can be dark and not everything can be brought and awesome for babies with giggles and 1 liners. But to bash a movie because it isn't "joyous" when 1 of the characters is pretty generally void of that emotion is silly. Superman doesn't need to be all gloom but I can understand that if that character was juxtaposed into our current reality that the way he is portrayed may be accurate.

Think about it this way. Would the world as we live in it really be ok with Superman? We barely like 1 another let alone a super powered alien who could kill us all. Think of this set of movies from MoS on as a real take on comic characters if they really had human emotions.

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#282 Posted by AbdullahZubair (1039 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: spoilers:

As a Batman fan does Batman using firearms not trouble you?

Batman not using firearms is what actually bothered me in comics....Especially since he had mastered his aim with all of them...

PS: Watch honest trailer of Batman movie....Keaton killed people in that too and even tried killing Joker

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Well....I didn't expect it to get SO many bad reviews, but a few bad reviews were expected...And the problem with this movie is that most people are used to the kiddish fun movies like GotG, Avengers, IM,etc...So when a darker and more serious movie comes out, they don't have anything good to say about it...Marvel has also made Captain America 2 which was quite dark, yet people liked it... The problem might be that Marvel fanboys have literally killed DC Universe by finding faults in all their previous movies and putting them in your face....Why is it a must now-a-days that before someone saves the universe, he needs to make a joke...?? Why..?? I watch movies with the thought that they can happen in real life...I can't see that happening in real life and looks too fake for the Movie meduim (But still cool in comics tho...Stick to that)...I thought Civil War was going to be serious, but just before they started battling, Iron Man had to shout: "Underoos" instead of kid or spidey or anything at all...

why can't it just be the movie's fault for not being that good? You can have a well written light hearted film (GotG) and you can have a well written dark and gritty film. From what I'm hearing BvS just isn't that well written. Also just want to point out that the reviewer never once compared it to any Marvel films

I haven't watched it yet so can't comment on that...But since the main fault of the movie is the dark theme from most reviews, it is very obvious...

You don't have to say it to make it clear...People now-a-days expect every comic movie to be a funny movie....GotG had it's faults too...The story wasn't that great if you take away the humor... The people shitting on this are the same people who didn't like Man Of Steel...And that was a good movie if you ask a person who likes dark and gritty movies...

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#283 Posted by illmatic4177 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@zeeguy91: Yea IM3 was generally very well liked by general audiences, the only place anybody complains about it is comic book fan groups online.

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#284 Edited by AbdullahZubair (1039 posts) - - Show Bio

This is better for everyone....You do know that it is very hard for a movie to have a half dark theme and a half light theme....They went with complete dark and this even makes Superman more fun to watch as compared to his current comics.... They can't pull him off with that sort of personality when he is watching 1000s die....In the comics, it is possible as it is rare that large number of people die and he is fighting villains all the time, but when you get a movie after 3 years, then you have to show 1000s die and that personality is not soothing to see in those times....

@edstone1 said:

@abdullahzubair: "Hope guy" was Mark Waid's Superman only devoid of colour and personality. I love DC, I just wish they had a young Spielberg to work with and ditched the Nolanverse approach. Lottsa love from Norway:)

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#285 Posted by illmatic4177 (429 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam: I feel like your trolling, but I can't quite tell...

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#286 Posted by sungod1988 (241 posts) - - Show Bio

My biggest grip about the reviews isn't that they are bashing the movie or that some people don't like it, people have their opinions. My biggest grip about the reviews are that they seem to be bashing the movie based on something that is a different style of movie.

I wasn't a fan of Deadpool. It was good but it wasn't amazing like everyone claimed it was. It was predictable and pretty basic but it was still enjoyable. To say a movie can't be enjoyed at all is a big friggin stretch and very heavy handed.

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#287 Edited by harashkupo (86 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry if this has been asked already, so who is the guy that reviewed this? Is he a new part of the crew? Are any of the regular comicvine guys going to share their thoughts/review BvS also?

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#288 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

@ashik: She had a limited showing, though. We barely got to see her. But in the picture Batman found in Lex's files, Wonder Woman was on the front with her shield and swird while all the men stood behind her, so it seemed like she was leading them, including Steve Trevor. We should wait till the standalone Wonder Woman movie, because she barely had screentime. Matter of fact, she led the way against Doomsday when fiercely jumping at him and attacking it with bravery. Even in the barely 15 minutes she had screentime, she seemed to be a good Wonder Woman who symbolizes bravery of women. Basically, let's just wait till the standalone movie so we can actually judge how her portrayal of Wonder Woman is.

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#289 Posted by TheNoobStomper (795 posts) - - Show Bio

Just got back from the theatre

BRIEF OPINION:

Started of well,nightmare sequence was confusing as fuck,too much stuff packed in the movie,way too rushed,almost no character invested,plot was all over the place if non existant at all,editing despite what most people say was fine,Doomsday was mediocre at best,acting is fine,visuals are fine,the bad guy has no motive,destruction porn,a few CGI scenes aren't that good but they re not bad either in short i would give it a 3/10.

Now,take into account i prefer Marvel over DC,but even though i didn't expect it to be like a Marvel Film,i was hoping it would be balanced but oh boy it wasn't.Its better than GL and almost like MoS in tone but THE FUCKING PLOT IS AAAAAAAAAAAAAALL OVEEEEEERAAAAAAAAA THA PLACEEEEEEEE!

SPOILERS AHEAD:

So at best i could say its an average movie,and you will probably need to be a little high to enjoy it.The opening sequence that shows Bruce's early childhood and his prespective on the Metropolis destruction was really good.Then we are introduced to the kryptonite though and Lex who appears to want it to make a weapon that will kill Superman for reasons,cause there is no actual motive shown behind his actions.He is more of an amalgam of the Joker and the Riddler rather than the serious menacing Luthor that we know.Then,we get to see how people view Superman which is another interesting element of the whole movie.AND THEN,WE SEE WONDER WOMAN.I dont recall the last time i saw Diana acting like a spy,and more than that,she was able to find the device Bruce placed in Lex's servers while she was more than 1 floor away from him when he placed the tracker/decrypter.Apparently,she was after a picture of hers from World War 2 i guess,for which picture though she looked like she posed actually.Meaning it wasn't actually a pic taken against her will or something.Anyway,moving forward.Lex proceeds to blow up the Senet,making it look like Superman did it and Batman actually takes the bait,even though its plain as the sky that such an explosion was not caused by Superman but by a freaking bomb.I just remembered,earlier in the film there is a tracker placed inside a reporter's camera who assists Lois Lane so that if she is in danger,Sups can save her.Who put that tracker in there and why is beyond explanation.Its supposed to be placed by Lex to lure Superman in there,after Lex's agents have taken out most of the terrorists to make it look like Superman did it.But how did Lex know that Superman would appear when Lois was in danger is also beyond explanation.

Moving forward,Batman finally decides to take on Superman and opens up the bat signal to lure Superman in.Meanwhile,Lex threatens Superman that if he doesn't fight Batman,he will kill his mother(step mother) who again we have no clue as to how he identified her.Superman proceeds to fight him,ends up getting almost killed but then all of a sudden Lois appears at the right place at the right time out of PURE CHANCE to prevent Clark's death.After she talks Batman out of killing Clark,Batman proceeds to save Clark's mother while Clark goes after Luthor.The spear Batman would have used to kill Clark is thrown in a water pit and you get this feeling that this weapon will be used as a finishing tool in the final fight.Anyway,Batman fight afterwards,great sequence and then o my God,we get to Doomsday...To start of with that atrocity,he was born out of a mix of Zod's corpse and Lex's blood,which he dripped in Zod's face by slicing his palm BEFORE the mainframe computer told him anything about the procedure.Actually,the blood could have nothing to do with the whole transformation but anyway.The mainframe states it hosts information from over 100.000 different worlds(hold than in mind).We then get Doomsday who looks like an oversized grey troll,who for some reason produces a huge energy explosion when under attacked for whatever reason(they said he absorbed the energy,but clearly he emits much more than he "Drains"),he grows bones every time he gets attacked and is your casual total savage monster you would expect.In the end,the military sees that weapons cant do anything to it,and Batman with Superman realize than ONLY KRYPTONIAN weapons can kill it.They get the spear back(which is not kryptonian by the way,it just has a kryptonian rock on top of it),and proceed to stab Doomsday in the chest with it,which for some reason seems to be killing him,even though Wonder Woman's sword was able to also cut through his skin pretty easily but hey,lets make it dramatic.Then of course Superman gets stabbed to the chest as well by one of Doomsday's bones that replaced the hand Wonder Woman cut off,which took out almost his entire thorax as it went fully through him.So,Superman should be dead now.He wasn't knocked out,he HAD A HUGE WHOLE IN HIS CHEST,AND IT WAS NIGHT,SO NO SUNLIGHT TO MAGICALLY REVIVE HERE.After the whole drama funeral music,Batman visits Lex in prison and Luthor seems to be going crazy as he starts spewing crap like "HE IS COMING!# AGHAHAHA! THE BELLS HAVE RUNG AND U CANT UNDO IT!" probably talking about Darkseid,about which only God knows how he knows that he is coming on earth,since he didnt really have much time to study all the information on the kryptonian database and plus,that database was limited and the ship functioning to 38% of its capacity,so how the fuck could the spaceship computer know that a galactic god will come towards earth 1 year after it(the ship) was nearly destroyed and received no new information from any outside sources for the last year,is mind blowing.Then we get to the final scene where Batman tells WW to help him find all the other meta humans cause they will need to fight,she asks what,and he says i have a feeling,and then we see underground Superman's corpse case and the dirt of top of it starts to levitate for a brief second indicating he is alive.How the fuck did he recover from a whole in his chest is beyond the average viewer.

Let me also say,the Flash's cameo was fine,Aquaman's was shit,he acted like a caveman in his scene where he was poking an underwater droid with his trident like what the fuck,and Cyborg's also weird,showing a cube that acted like it was made of living nanotechnology and started fusing with a crippled body without any reason at all but anyways.

Now on to the big shit with Batman's nightmare sequence.He gets apprehended in a world where the world is taken over by Darkseid(which only fans will understand,by the huge omega on a deserted spot on the face of the earth) and Superman works for him.As he(Batman) wakes up from that sequence a form appears(which seems to be either the Flash or Cyborg) telling him that she (Lois Lane) is the key and that he has to stop him (probably Superman).This form appears to be time travelling to warn Batman of future events.But even that event is happening in a freaking dream.Its almost like an inception level thing.Which makes no sense.

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#290 Posted by PrimeEarth2016 (244 posts) - - Show Bio

@johnny_blaze: Yeah cus theres no way someone can dislike a DC movie, just call them a Marvel fanboy instead of just allowing them an opinion, you may not know but there are people that like both DC & Marvel, but they arent going to love every single film either one put out.

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#291 Posted by ArkhamWrath (723 posts) - - Show Bio

Just what i expected... movie unnecessary long-drawn with again a lot ''unnecessary'' story, which lead to expected fight - where we all expected that... Batman will beat Superman !!! And again... lets say ''honestly'' satisfied with the action scenes... and specail effects :)

And HONESTLY thismovie don't needed 2h 33m, it all can fit in ordinary 1h 30m !!! Waiting so long for sth fun/interesting to happen before battle of millennium... and almost was in mood to leave and get out from cinema :P Honestly i do that in TASM 2 at half of movie, where another 10-15 people join my !!! But let's back to BvS...

I don't know what Eisenberg doing in all movie... there is nothing of Hackman, Rosenbaum, Spacey... this Lex L. dont have poise, cruelty, severity... its just like Ledger, Ledger, Ledger, Ledger, Ledger as The Joker ! All his look ( not that he is stupid) give you picture that he don't look like intelligent person, what Lex Luthor is !

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#292 Posted by captain_batman_FTW (8905 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: What did you think about Batfleck? I, personally, didn't like him. The fact that Batfleck has no morality and ethics ruined the whole portrayal for me. Sure, all the other stuff were done correctly (Batman's paranoia, his stuborness, intelligence, fighting, physicality etc), but the fact that this Batman kills made me feel like I was watching or reading something with Punisher in it. Honestly, it felt like Punisher was underneath this mask. Morality and ethics is something that makes Batman who he is, and is one of the biggest reading, if not the biggest, Batman is my favourite fictional character, and I'm sure many Batman fans (who reads Batman comics) can relate to what I'm saying. This Batman wasn't about that. The lack of morality and ethics is the only reason I don't like this Batman, even though Snyder managed to hit most of the places. This would've been the perfect live-action adaption of Batman if not for the killing. But what do you think of Batfleck?

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#293 Posted by deactivated-5d2b83d5a0d79 (12104 posts) - - Show Bio

@farkam said:
@gotham331 said:

@farkam: marvel clearly makes a more superior product. Why even entertain anything else

Phase 1 Marvel was great. GotG is the only thing I like from Phase 2. Marvel is getting kind of stale imo.

Blade trinity , Thor , Iron man , Hulk, and Cap

Blade sucked, thor sucked, Hulk sucked.

That a great phase one there kiddo.

Blade isn't an MCU film. The rest is a matter of opinion.

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#294 Edited by Captain13 (4775 posts) - - Show Bio

A fair, spoiler-free review:

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#295 Edited by Captain13 (4775 posts) - - Show Bio

Give Marvel the rights back!

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#296 Edited by lordraiden (9664 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordraiden: i have. And i will say its awesome. GA loved it.

Glad to hear it. Can't wait till tonight, easter has taken a back seat lol

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#297 Edited by TheExile285 (4353 posts) - - Show Bio

I just saw. Enjoyed most of it and I never found myself bored with the film but it does have a lot of issues. I'd give it a 3/5 as well.

WB/DC need to find a new Director because Zack Synder just doesn't get these characters and he won't do JL justice. I hope they don't reboot everything because I like the cast but a soft reboot may be necessary.

The film isn't very newbie friendly. There are several things about the movie that may make sense to a big DC comics fan but will leave viewers new these characters and world confused.

Also, we need a new Luthor. I get what they were trying to do with this portrayal and Jesse isn't a bad actor or anything but this depiction of Luthor just doesn't work.

Oh, I did like the philosophical aspects and how Superman's impact on the world was called into question. I think that was one of the highlights for me.

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#298 Edited by sentienttshirt (194 posts) - - Show Bio

Snyder and everyone involved cared about this movie and knew the characters and it showed. Afleck's age and the bulky suit made his fight scenes not feel credible (despite excellent choreography and them still being enjoyable) but apart from that there were very few flaws. I would say 3 and 3/4 stars.

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#299 Edited by sentienttshirt (194 posts) - - Show Bio

The whole point of SM and BM have "annoying" world views/attitudes is something for them to overcome during the movie.

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#300 Posted by chrisburgess99 (105 posts) - - Show Bio

Great movie. Very somber, but many iconic comic book references over the decades. Three hours long and well worth the time and money. DC is making sure they are not following the Marvel script of movie making. The stories are character driven and very reminiscent of the characters they were based on prior to the New 52.