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#1 Posted by violencejack (1083 posts) - - Show Bio

would you say he's on that level?

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#2 Edited by DarkPrimeSovereign (1107 posts) - - Show Bio

@violencejack: Yes he is. One of the top 5 in my opinion. Not a battle though. Move this to gen. discussion threads.

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#3 Posted by MiracleComeBack (2061 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes

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#4 Posted by AllStarSuperman (42493 posts) - - Show Bio

One of the few.

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#5 Posted by DragonbellZ (1038 posts) - - Show Bio

few ??? Theres a ton of characters who bullet time all the time in Comics and anime

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#6 Edited by lettsplay10 (20589 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman can make all runners like zoom and such look like a rock and he is even faster than omnipresent

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#7 Posted by serpinethegreen (5164 posts) - - Show Bio

@violencejack:

No. There's nothing casual about his bullet timing. He's definitly a casual aim dodger.

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#8 Posted by HighAccuser (9696 posts) - - Show Bio

Plot helps

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#9 Posted by King_Nomarch (2113 posts) - - Show Bio

BatGod can do anything.

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#10 Edited by a_marques (379 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly don't recall any genuine bullet timing feats for Bruce. He's a casual aim dodger.

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#11 Posted by larfleezy (687 posts) - - Show Bio

Not like it matters, his suit has been bulletproof for a while now.

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#12 Posted by chaos911 (4166 posts) - - Show Bio

Is MCU Thor a casual planet buster?

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5988def3424a7 (5386 posts) - - Show Bio

I would be surprised if he wasn't.

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#14 Posted by algorhythm511 (2479 posts) - - Show Bio

AFAIK, he's a casual aim dodger, usually. He does have some higher end feats where he does bullet time.

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#15 Edited by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

He literally has one bullet timing feat out of every comic book he's ever appeared in. Three if we count Gotham Knight and Under the Red Hood animations. No, he is not a bullet timer, let alone casual. Cassandra Cain is an example of a real bullet timer and all writers put her on a completely different level from Bruce.

Feat-nerds are the only ones who treat bullet timing like some casual thing. In reality most writers treat it as exclusive to superhumans like Spider-Man, because when you think about it, it's ridiculously over the top and if peak humans were actually doing it, it'd be immersion breaking (to everyone besides feat nerds.) Cassandra Cain is a VERY RARE example of the human who has been conditioned under SUCH inhuman circumstances that she has been able to transcend that boundary and just barely reach the superhuman level of speed required for bullet timing.

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#16 Posted by Chair-Sama (2281 posts) - - Show Bio

bullet timer? batman is FTL iirc. what is this.

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#17 Posted by depinhom (13506 posts) - - Show Bio
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#18 Edited by willpayton (21786 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a battle.

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#19 Edited by GothamCiti (2890 posts) - - Show Bio

He's mostly a casual aim dodger to low level bullet timer.

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#20 Edited by decaf_wizard (16525 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman isn't a casual bullet timer. I would say he is a trained aim dodger. He fights people with guns, sure, but that is because he is trained to do so and is skilled enough to beat them without getting shot.

I know much more about Bane's feats than I do Batmans and their stats are comparible when Bane is off Venom (with Bane having somewhat better stats, and Bats being much more skilled) Bane only has two feats that even come close to suggesting that he is a bullet timer. If Bane isn't a bullet timer, Bats certainly isn't.

Sure Bats has a few outlier feats that put him at bullet timer level, but as far as im aware he isn't written consistantly on that level

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#21 Edited by rogueshadow (28821 posts) - - Show Bio

You don't get to casual bullet-timing until you hit the likes of Iron Fist and Spider-man, who I don't consider street level anyway.

Casual bullet-timers tell one liners while dancing between bullets from a small army and snatch sniper rounds coursing towards the back of their heads clean out of the air.

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#23 Posted by Khael (15331 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by Pr0tocol (904 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by reaverlation (25225 posts) - - Show Bio

Not casual but he is one

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#26 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11526 posts) - - Show Bio

@chaos911 said:

Is MCU Thor a casual planet buster?

You tell me...

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#27 Posted by LlehDevil (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

Casual aim dodger, not bullet dodger. But yes to aim dodger. And in the New-52 it seems he can tank bullets to certain places as well.

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#28 Posted by decaf_wizard (16525 posts) - - Show Bio

Casual aim dodger, not bullet dodger. But yes to aim dodger. And in the New-52 it seems he can tank bullets to certain places as well.

Wouldn't that have more to do with his Bat Suit than his actual durability? And what do you mean tank exactly? As far as im aware Bats has never been able to no sell a bullet

Anyways Batman ( and some others like Bane ) has been ignoring the pain from bullets for awhile now, much before New-52

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#29 Posted by LlehDevil (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

@decaf_wizard: Really? Then I'm probably wrong. But yeah, bat-suit durability is different, so disregard that.

That is true.

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#30 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio

I wouldn't say so. The closest thing to full on bullet-timing he's ever done was punch a bullet out of the air, but because of how it was depicted it could still be written off as prediction, and even then it's an arguable outlier. I think for 'casual' bullet-timing we need to go a bit higher. Not as far as Iron Fist and Spider-Man, but more along the lines of Cassandra Cain, Blade, and Deathstroke.

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#31 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio

@decaf_wizard: IIRC, in Batman and Robin Bruce was shot clean through the gut out of the Bat-Suit and went on to beat up a young Morgan Ducard. Something along those lines. Not quite 'no-sell' but he can still operate after being shot, and even stabbed.

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#32 Posted by larfleezy (687 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Edited by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto said:

@elijah_c_washington: Deathstroke is a bullet timer?

> TL;DR: He's done everything short of catch one.

A pretty high-end one at that. His most blatant bullet-timing feat was in New Titans #62:

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He has a pretty similar feat in the beginning of his The Hunted arc, has a damn good bullet-timing feat in his 4th annual, aim-dodged 30+ bullets at once in another annual, has blocked bullets both with his staff and sword on separate occasions, was once sitting in a car when he was fired upon by three gunmen and made his way out of the car and killed his assailants without getting hit, blatantly perceived multiple bullets late in his first solo-series, Cassandra Cain said he was faster than herself, and he's blitzed a handful of bullet-timers.

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#37 Edited by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio

@nickzambuto: And his New-52 incarnation has full on cut bullets out of the air and blocked them with his sword on two separate occasions. He also went untouched by a Green Arrow who had been amped to superhuman levels while cutting and catching arrows out of the air, from both Ollie and Emiko.

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Oh dear lord. That had me choking on my beer. Kudos.

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#39 Edited by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio
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#41 Posted by Pipxeroth (8845 posts) - - Show Bio

Not a casual one, but he can still react to bullets.

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#42 Edited by FirestormFate1919 (6052 posts) - - Show Bio

He can do it, but I'm not sure I'd call it casual. I'd say these are somewhat accurate tiers (excluding clear superhumans).

Casual Bullet-Timer: Deathstroke, Cassandra Cain, Katana, Deadshot, Prometheus, Ozymadias, Taskmaster, Daredevil, Elektra

Bullet-Timer: Batman, Captain America, Nightwing, Red Hood, Winter Soldier, The Question, Ravager

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#43 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio
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#44 Posted by nickzambuto (29288 posts) - - Show Bio

He can do it, but I'm not sure I'd call it casual. I'd say these are somewhat accurate tiers (excluding clear superhumans).

Casual Bullet-Timer: Deathstroke, Cassandra Cain, Katana, Deadshot, Prometheus, Ozymadias, Taskmaster, Daredevil, Elektra

Bullet-Timer: Batman, Captain America, Nightwing, Red Hood, Winter Soldier, The Question, Ravager

I think your casual bullet timers should be bumped down to just bullet timers, and your bullet timers should be bumped down to just aim dodgers. "Casual" is not the word I would use to describe the feats of those characters. Also, Daredevil and Elektra are not real bullet timers at all, and I don't think Taskmaster and Deadshot are (Deadshot has one, single bullet timing feat).

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#45 Edited by katanalauncher (3430 posts) - - Show Bio

He's high end aim dodger or low end bullet timer, definitely not close to IF/Spidey level, a little below Cap and Shang Chi level.

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#46 Edited by FlashofTommorow (1650 posts) - - Show Bio

Nah.

Confirmed Lightspeeder.
Confirmed Lightspeeder.

Just kidding. He dodges bullets by reading the direction the gun will fire.

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#47 Posted by Elijah_C_Washington (4610 posts) - - Show Bio

Basically, all that's required for 'casual' bullet-timing is perceiving and reacting to a bullet distinctly after it was fired with apparent ease. I don't know what to call the super high-end bullet-timing we see in guys like Iron Fist, Midnighter, and Spider-Man, but there is a noticeable difference in there.

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#48 Posted by Nefarious (35611 posts) - - Show Bio

He is not a casual one.

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#49 Posted by MonsterStomp (36422 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope. He barely has legit showings. I don't take bullet timing lightly.

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#50 Edited by TheKinfing (11457 posts) - - Show Bio

I do think he is, but he isn't a casual one, when im thinking of casual bullet timer's im thinking of someone like Spidey, which Bruce clearly isn't on par. I think he is a very casual aim doger/bullet timer.

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