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#1 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay so, I've been drawing a lot lately and I rather enjoy it now. Problem is that I've run out of ideas on what to draw, and everything I can think of isn't really a challenge to me anymore. I want to be challenged when it comes to my drawing, it's the only way I can improve. So I thought of a good idea where I post my drawings here, and you guys can do me a favour.

Can you guys please rate my drawings? Also if you guys can throw an idea my way so I can try to draw it?

Thank you much appreciated

Here's my first piece. Rate /10 ?

personally I feel like I've improved quite a bit since this piece, but this is the only drawing I thought I should upload.
personally I feel like I've improved quite a bit since this piece, but this is the only drawing I thought I should upload.

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#2 Edited by Lord_Adamantium (246 posts) - - Show Bio

7.25/10.

you definitely have natural talent and will be a great artist if you keep at it. You just need to work on your fundamentals.

  • You should get some books or watch some youtube videos on drawing bodies/anatomy and proportions.
  • Your feet a too small.
  • Your thighs are too long and calves too short.
  • You need to work on your hands as well.
  • The waist is a bit too narrow on supes also.

Your strong points are your faces which are good but need depth and definition/shading.

Idea: Try drawing a Blade/Wolverine amalgam?

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#3 Posted by BlueHope (2384 posts) - - Show Bio

6,5/10

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#4 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_adamantium: Thank you for replying!! Yeah I did this free hand, I dont really copy other art because I don't see how it'd help me improve. Thanks for the pointers I'll definitely keep them in mind when I draw again. What books do you recommend, if you don't mind? LOL hands are a pain in the ass XD

Thanks again!

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#5 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@bluehope: any pointers you can give, please?

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#6 Posted by Lord_Adamantium (246 posts) - - Show Bio

@lord_adamantium: Thank you for replying!! Yeah I did this free hand, I dont really copy other art because I don't see how it'd help me improve. Thanks for the pointers I'll definitely keep them in mind when I draw again. What books do you recommend, if you don't mind? LOL hands are a pain in the ass XD

Thanks again!

You are very welcome friend. You have a lot of natural ability. You are very welcome for the pointers and I respect you a great deal for handling them with such grace.

Honestly I would recommend you reading any Marvel and DC comics with John Byrne as the artist (google his work if you aren't familiar). He is, in my opinion, probably the best comic book artist ever, especially his Avengers and X-men runs.

I know hands are tough. You can do it though just stay persistent :D

You are very welcome and good luck! I can't wait to see your art evolve. You are really talented and I can see you being a solid 8/10 artist with 6-9 months of diligent practice and learning. You would benefit from taking some classes/courses also.

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#7 Posted by HeroUp2112 (10578 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm not going to rate you by number since there are too many unknown factors about you. I will ask some of them however.

  • How old are you?
  • How long have you been seriously drawing?
  • Have you had any training outside of a high school art class?

Lord Adamantium hit on some good points and some good specifics, and I'll expand on those but I'll give you a compliment or two as well.

Compliments:

  • You have a decent sense of form. While it needs work, you have a good overall idea of how an overall form goes together without getting lost in the details...this is a good thing.
  • General anatomy. Your anatomy isn't bad...especially in relation to overall form. What I mean is you basically seem to understand how the muscular system goes together and how it interacts over bones. You DO need work here, but you seem to get the basic idea. This is a very good thing.
  • The little bit of foreshortening you have in this is decently effective.

Criticisms. Honestly, Lord Adamantium hit most of these, I only have a few to add. These are mostly small tips/tricks for drawing figures...mainly comic book cartoon figures...though I think you need more work on the BASICS, I'll add them anyway.

  • You have Superman's left foot cut off at the ankle. You should never cut off a figure at any joint, it makes the figure look incomplete (don't ask me why, it just works that way). It's okay to cut the figure off at say...mid upper arm, mid calf, but not at the elbow or knee. Trust me, a comic editor will kick back a page if you have a figure doing this without a GOOD reason, or unless your Rob Liefield or something and you're pulling in a lot of money.
  • Your anatomy on Superman's head is pretty darn close to anatomically correct. HOWEVER, in comics (especially with heroes), they typically make male heads a bit smaller and shoulders and chests a bit bigger to give them a larger, more "heroic" appearance. Wonder Woman is also pretty close, but again with "heroic proportions" they typically make the neck a bit longer, and the torso a bit longer than realistic,

This being said. I'd concentrate more on getting the basic anatomy of human figures right first. It's much better (and easier) to exaggerate a correct human figure than the other way around.

Suggestions:

  • Like Lord Adamantium suggested. Get some drawing books (the Burne Hogarth series of "Dynamic" drawing books are a favorite but can be expensive, and there are about 8 of them, but ANY decent figure drawing book will help), and there are a LOT of good Youtube tutorials out there as well. As boring as they are actually DOING the tutorials and exercises will CHANGE YOUR WORLD as an artist. I know just sitting down and drawing is WAY more fun, but if you want to be a SERIOUS artist there simply is no substitute for putting in the work.
  • DRAW FROM LIFE. You can't just draw from comics if you want to be a serious artist. Get magazines, pictures of real people (not always muscular, good looking people) from the internet. If you need to draw a picture of a car or building? Get a picture of a car or building. I can't stress this enough.

ON THE OTHER HAND.

If you're just doing this for fun. Keep doing what you're doing. (Depending on your age and training) You have a decent set of skills and some actual talent, you're doing well.

However, if you're younger and really wanting to be any kind of serious artist...try STARTING with some of the things suggested and then DEFINITELY try and get some art classes, maybe even get into art school. You seem to have the potential.

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#8 Edited by Ultimate_Knight (7593 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat: Ohh...you run out of people to draw? What if people like me make requests? Would you be interested?

Since you asked for it...

The feet seem rather small from both characters. Superman's right leg seems to long and too twisted for the pose making it seem "awkward" a little. Wonder Woman's thighs seem too big and longer than the area below the knee. They are roughly equal in length from my perspective.

It is okay though. Legs are arguably the hardest and most frustrating part to perfect in drawing humans in my point of view, as I have a lot of difficulty with it as well.

Superman's underwear area seems to show a bulge on the right leg upper area.

Wonder Woman's torso is good for the most part, but the shading on the belly make it seem out of place.

Superman's torso is pretty okay when I think of you trying to make your own art style, but from another perspective, the belly part of the torso got too small.

Arms are pretty good and those hands get the same compliment.

Heads are pretty solid in my point of view and me thinks you spent the most time with, but minor nitpick: Wonder Woman seems to have no pupils. Maybe it was intended?

Cape seems okay and both cape and hair flow in the same direction. Just pointing out how I thought it was getting "minor details" right.

I would highly compliment your shading. It is pretty good from what I am seeing and I am no good at that and will be useful in enhancing the linework's beauty.

The artwork seems to be based on the artwork below by Jim Lee.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/5a/e8/14/5ae8148ee61a5898250b92d66ae875db.jpg

Kind of glad you did not outright seemed to try and copy every detail from Mr. Lee's artwork. It is good you did your own thing in my point of view.

What I got is that you seemed to rely on looking at pictures and trying to replicate it with your own hand.

I do not really like art like that in my point of view. It seems like the same thing. Roughly the same anatomy or same pose, just in a different filter or something (which can be easily done given technology these days).

Like I see a lot of doom artwork based on his 2016 video game cover. I see a lot of "the same" artwork of him holding his shotgun and looking at you. It seems like a rehash to me and the people who illustrate those seem to focus on trying to replicate the boxart's anatomy and everything else in their own twist instead of thinking of another way to illustrate Doomguy.

I like it when the artist draws something and is not basing all details of the artwork on a single artwork, but based on the character and his/her world instead. It gives you more freedom and ideas to play with than one artwork.

But anyway...trying to replicate an image is kind of basic, but I think it is okay for you. Starting with small steps will eventually get you to a point wherein you can make your own work based on what is in your head and not one picture you look at while illustrating.

You should also try making guidelines before refining the entire work.

I give your artwork a 6.9/10. Good job.

Oh...and I think you should also show you other artwork and not only your best. Your more consistent artwork.

"Strive for progress. Share your progress, not perfection."

Just something I made up based on a quote I saw in school.

All of what I said is in my perspective only.

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#9 Posted by Iara (680 posts) - - Show Bio

I realise this is a weird request but could you try drawing the following creature based on this description:

"vaguely skeletal in shape, with unnaturally long limbs that sprouted from granite shoulders. The eyes were deep red spots on the arrowhead face." It had "riblike protrusions from its chest" and its "hand was as long as a man was tall." The beasts had "ripped themselves free of the stone to join the fray"

There's no wrong answer since I can't find any artwork of it on the web but if you'd be willing to give it a shot I'd be very grateful!

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#10 Edited by ZZoMBiE13 (1343 posts) - - Show Bio

Others have covered the critiques as good or better than I ever could, and it's very impressive that you can take criticism well. That's how creative folks improve and it's great to see you seeking out peers for constructive help and suggestions. Keep doing that!

I just want to say "well done". These are a really strong start and it's plain to see you're extremely gifted. Now you just need to get some education and hone those natural abilities and you could honestly be a pro (if that's a goal of yours). Good luck and always remember that practice is the difference between a good artist who does their art as a hobby and a pro who does what they love for a living.

Practice practice practice!

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#11 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@iara: dude, that suggestion is lit! I'd draw it tonight and post tomorrow, it that cool? Thanks for that man, I'm honestly uncharacteristicly excited to draw that XD

Thank you all for your advice and tips! What would you guys rate artists like Greg Capullo and Ed Benes? just curious :)

I also drew the character LordAdamantium suggested.

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i messed up on the right shoulder, I know...i know
i messed up on the right shoulder, I know...i know

kinda look like lobo doesn't he? lol

@heroup2112 said:

I'm not going to rate you by number since there are too many unknown factors about you. I will ask some of them however.

  • How old are you?

I'm 20

  • How long have you been seriously drawing?

I guess you can say I've been doing it seriously for 2 and a half years now. A little bit after I graduated highschool I picked it up as a hobby. I used to draw a lot as a kid, but I stopped when I was 10 picked it up again when I was 18.

  • Have you had any training outside of a high school art class?

lol I never took classes at all, aside from doodling on my school work I've drawn inside a class room hahaha.

Criticisms. Honestly, Lord Adamantium hit most of these, I only have a few to add. These are mostly small tips/tricks for drawing figures...mainly comic book cartoon figures...though I think you need more work on the BASICS, I'll add them anyway.

  • You have Superman's left foot cut off at the ankle. You should never cut off a figure at any joint, it makes the figure look incomplete (don't ask me why, it just works that way). It's okay to cut the figure off at say...mid upper arm, mid calf, but not at the elbow or knee. Trust me, a comic editor will kick back a page if you have a figure doing this without a GOOD reason, or unless your Rob Liefield or something and you're pulling in a lot of money.

damn, I didnt know that was important. Now that I look at it though it does kinda look awkward lol thanks for that, I just cut it out because I didnt feel like drawing another foot LOL

  • Your anatomy on Superman's head is pretty darn close to anatomically correct. HOWEVER, in comics (especially with heroes), they typically make male heads a bit smaller and shoulders and chests a bit bigger to give them a larger, more "heroic" appearance. Wonder Woman is also pretty close, but again with "heroic proportions" they typically make the neck a bit longer, and the torso a bit longer than realistic,

hahaha it's funny because I usually draw people with the proportions you've mentioned, but you've just taught me that when I draw 'normal' people I should aim for the proportions i've shown in this picture. I appreciate that.

I kind of just draw for fun, but I feel like it's really something I want to improve myself on. Those books are really in depth, I'll definitely pick them up, thanks for that! I'll start drawing from real life like you suggested, I definitely feel like that'll help me improve, thanks for that.

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@itouchedtheboat: Ohh...you run out of people to draw? What if people like me make requests? Would you be interested?

absolutely, yeah. Hit me with an idea so i could draw it, because I feel like if others give me something to draw I'll improve more.

For some reason I find drawing legs really difficult, maybe because I dont look at my legs as much as I look at my upper body in the mirror, so maybe I just dont understand the figure of the legs yet. gotta work on that. shading is something I picked up pretty recently, it's still something I'm working on it. If I'm being honest sometimes I dont even do it :P maybe that's why I'm messing up on it hahaha. Nope, WW was meant to have pupils, I just didn't do it properly I guess. That's pretty insane you found that pic, I never really copied it I drew this piece when I was at home watching tv, I must've subliminally tried copying it from memory since I do admire Jim Lee's art most times. I don't copy work for the same reason you listed, I also don't see it helping myself improve as much as drawing from my mind....that's honestly the weirdest thing that you found that LOL. what do you mean by trying to make guidelines before refining the work? Did you mean by starting at the stick figure, and then building the human figure from there? Showing my consistent work and progress is exactly why I made this thread, I appreciate the quote and the rating :)

@lord_adamantium said:

You are very welcome friend. You have a lot of natural ability. You are very welcome for the pointers and I respect you a great deal for handling them with such grace.

lol I uploaded a personal piece of art to the internet, I had to prepare my anus for the worst of the worst criticism. Instead though, I got tons of great reviews and helpful tips, so I'm really grateful for that LOL. John Bryne is a great artist! I always admired classic comic art, there's just something different about them.

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#12 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

Thank you! I had to prepare myself for the worst of comment before I uploaded my art on the internet LOL it was actually refreshing to be met with users who were actually giving constructive criticism instead of negative remarks. So reacting to this kind of criticism makes me feel honoured tbh. Practice is exactly why I made this thread, I wanted to explore my skills by drawing things that users could only describe with words, making me have to convert their words into a physical piece is what i think would really help me (as well as what everyone is constructing me to do in this thread of course). I want you to know how much I appreciate your words of encouragement and help, I'll definitely look into getting classes asap :)

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#13 Posted by Iara (680 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat: You're welcome, it's from a book called the Way of Kings if you're interested. It's called a Thundercast if you want to give it a title. Also please take your time with it and then tag me when it's finished! I'm really looking forward to seeing what you come up with :)

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#14 Edited by Lord_Adamantium (246 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat said:

I also drew the character LordAdamantium suggested.

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i messed up on the right shoulder, I know...i know
i messed up on the right shoulder, I know...i know

kinda look like lobo doesn't he? lol

@lord_adamantium said:

You are very welcome friend. You have a lot of natural ability. You are very welcome for the pointers and I respect you a great deal for handling them with such grace.

lol I uploaded a personal piece of art to the internet, I had to prepare my anus for the worst of the worst criticism. Instead though, I got tons of great reviews and helpful tips, so I'm really grateful for that LOL. John Bryne is a great artist! I always admired classic comic art, there's just something different about them.

Nice! Wasn't expecting you to go with old-school Blade but it is really good! He does look like an ultimate universe version of Lobo: LoBro

Your faces and your 3/4 side torsos and shoulders/arms are your strong points.

It took a lot of courage to show your work and open yourself up to critiques for sure.

I agree and John Byrne is my all-time favorite. Yes there is something about the older/classic comics before computers and software were used to color and ink etc. They had more depth in my opinion.

I challenge you to read a book/watch a video on drawing proportions and another book/video on hands an feet and practice for a week and then draw an amalgam of Shang Chi and the Black Panther :D

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#15 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@iara: you said there are no wrong answers... well allow me to introduce you to the official, 'wrong answer'

I hope it fits what you wanted :)
I hope it fits what you wanted :)

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#16 Posted by Iara (680 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat: It looks great! The beauty of books is that no one visualizes something the same way and the description was a bit brief. I love the way you've scaled it. Putting it next to the mountain you get a sense that it is much larger than a human without making it look ridiculous. All the details on the skin look great and I like the way it's walking along menacingly. The rib cage and the hands are also really well done.

Truth by told I pictured more of a rocky, skeletal rhino thing. I think I immediately tried to make it more of an animal in my head because it sounded like a monster. There's nothing in the description, however, to suggest that it isn't relatively human in it's shape. I think you may have exposed one of my own prejudices strangely enough. Anyway, it looks brilliant and this is definitely what I'll picture while I finish the rest of the book!

Also I was wondering what exactly is sticking out in the forest? Is it a large tree or something else?

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#17 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

@iara: Thank you!! I don't think it's your prejudice that made you visualize it differently; rather it's exactly how you said that everybody sees things differently when reading it. I tried making it look rocky too, but I guess I textured it weirdly for it to be hard to tell, but I also imagined it rocky. yeah it's a giant tree sticking out of the forest lol, I watched an old video of Bob Ross and i remembered him putting some giant tree like that in his piece I just thought it was normal LOL

but thank you again!

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#18 Edited by mountlake (4 posts) - - Show Bio

I am not much of an artist so I can only give you feedback only from a layman's point of view. The strongest point of your drawing is the anatomy, the structure of your characters are properly defined especially in the first sketch. In the third sketch, the right hand could be a bit smaller and the left hand could be a bit bigger, this would make it look more realistic. But all the three are great sketches and you have done a good work.

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#19 Posted by Iara (680 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat: I definitely saw the rocky texture I just didn't know how else to describe what I saw in all honesty. If you got the idea from Bob Ross then it must be good and I guess it does add a bit of character to the environment!

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#20 Posted by Ultimate_Knight (7593 posts) - - Show Bio

@ultimate_knight said:

@itouchedtheboat: Ohh...you run out of people to draw? What if people like me make requests? Would you be interested?

absolutely, yeah. Hit me with an idea so i could draw it, because I feel like if others give me something to draw I'll improve more.

For some reason I find drawing legs really difficult, maybe because I dont look at my legs as much as I look at my upper body in the mirror, so maybe I just dont understand the figure of the legs yet. gotta work on that. shading is something I picked up pretty recently, it's still something I'm working on it. If I'm being honest sometimes I dont even do it :P maybe that's why I'm messing up on it hahaha. Nope, WW was meant to have pupils, I just didn't do it properly I guess. That's pretty insane you found that pic, I never really copied it I drew this piece when I was at home watching tv, I must've subliminally tried copying it from memory since I do admire Jim Lee's art most times. I don't copy work for the same reason you listed, I also don't see it helping myself improve as much as drawing from my mind....that's honestly the weirdest thing that you found that LOL. what do you mean by trying to make guidelines before refining the work? Did you mean by starting at the stick figure, and then building the human figure from there? Showing my consistent work and progress is exactly why I made this thread, I appreciate the quote and the rating :)

Okay. Can you illustrate "Sunlight on Snow" from Imperium?

Good shading in my eyes. You probably have potential to be good at coloring and shading as well.

I am kind of glad you agree with me on trying to re draw a certain piece.

Yes. Stick figure, mannequin, then refine the drawing then.

Thank you for the appreciation as well, even though the quote is not directly from my mind.

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#21 Edited by TinyFord (467 posts) - - Show Bio

Cool man

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#22 Posted by ITouchedTheBoat (792 posts) - - Show Bio

hey guys! I'm sorry this took very long, but I cut my hand at work and (to spare you from the gory details lol) I wasn't able to draw for that while. My hand has healed since then (Canadian Healthcare ftw lol) and I was able to take on the challenges you had given me :)

Okay. Can you illustrate "Sunlight on Snow" from Imperium?

Done. I must say; the hardest thing I've drawn in almost my entire life!! thank you :D

It took me a lit hour and a half to see what he looks like, and then draw out a proper pose that looked even remotely proper. I realllllly appreciate this one, cuz it was exactly why I felt like I needed to make this thread.
It took me a lit hour and a half to see what he looks like, and then draw out a proper pose that looked even remotely proper. I realllllly appreciate this one, cuz it was exactly why I felt like I needed to make this thread.

Yes. Stick figure, mannequin, then refine the drawing then.

yeah, I always draw from basic stick figures and then go up unless I'm just doodling around on some papers. I have a question though. Do you also find it troubling to erase the stick figure construct without erasing the second layer (body/muscles/clothes/etc.)? Do you have any solutions on how to deal with that? because I hate when I draw the stick figure and then move up to the second part, and accidentally erase a part of the second layer that I had drawn so perfectly.

Your faces and your 3/4 side torsos and shoulders/arms are your strong points.

thanks, that credits goes to me seeing my reflection in the mirror I just see how the upper body and face looks, I'd also think this is why I'm not too great at drawing legs because I cant see my lower body in the mirrors LOL

I challenge you to read a book/watch a video on drawing proportions and another book/video on hands an feet and practice for a week and then draw an amalgam of Shang Chi and the Black Panther :D

K so I did watch a lot of videos, but it was hard to actually practice because I cut my hand at work. Please do be honest with me if I've improved or not, because I need to see if just watching the videos have helped me in any way.

Thank you so much for the challenge! I know his legs are a little (understatement) messed up and out of place. And If his hands look un-proportionate it's because I read this book by Stan Lee and he said how drawing a hero with larger hands while they reach out gives it a more 'Action Packed' look, do you think I should tone it down, or does it look fine?
Thank you so much for the challenge! I know his legs are a little (understatement) messed up and out of place. And If his hands look un-proportionate it's because I read this book by Stan Lee and he said how drawing a hero with larger hands while they reach out gives it a more 'Action Packed' look, do you think I should tone it down, or does it look fine?

Thank you both so very much, again! Also what rating would you guys give artists like Jim Lee, Greg Capullo, and Ed Benes?

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#23 Posted by Thekillerklok (4977 posts) - - Show Bio

@itouchedtheboat: yeah... I would vote you cut back on the action packed arms... or at least have both similarly sized...