My JLA Vs Avengers book
Well my original plan was to incorporate my pages with the 21 original ones that George had, to help complete the original story, which is why the time egg is involved, and the recent series did leave open a door for a time egg story.
It's still a fexible idea, but my focus has been to only draw the fights first and come up with the complete story later. As childish as it may sound to some, YES, WE WANT TO SEE THEM FIGHT, and fight they will. Each major match-up is going to be pages, of action, not just panels.
there are 3 major sections of battles
1. beginning time distortions-no winners (1-3) pages each on average, depending on which characters involved)
2. tournament style one on one fights - clear victors(1-4 pages on average)
3. pursuing an object(time eggs) as teams and individuals - victory claimed with possesion of the object(1-10 pages on average, except Supes/Thor)
Basically, Something happens to activate/disrupt the time egg (open to plot suggestions), either it splits/self replicates itself across time/dimensions causing parallel places/earths to start merging Gotham/Wakanda, Asgard/New Genesis, etc (Battle Section 1)
The heroes may or may not remember each other (not sure yet), but for some reason (open to plot suggestions) once the worlds are merged they go after one another , like Wolvie hunting Bats down in his own cave etc (Battle Section 2) even the villains take each other on
Info is gathered about what's going on, and that's where we have the Scarlet Witch/ Zatanna pages lead into the time chases/battles to collect the time eggs for each respective side (Battle Section 3), now as to what plot device makes them continue to fight each other for the eggs instead of being sensible and teaming up then is (open to suggestions)
Some top tier villains get a hold of some of the eggs and tap into their power, Ultrainiac 7 creates the Sentinomacs, enlists villains, hunt down the heroes and take over, and the heroes are forced into hiding, striking back in small resistance numbers. On one such strike to save someone like Lois, who is being used as bait, Supes and Supergirl or Powergirl will attempt a rescue, only to run into the all new manga style kryptonite based Sentinomacs who overtake the weakened two and a heartfelt death of Kara takes places as a helpless Supes watches(Wow,that's original LOL). They are about to kill Supes, when he is saved at the last second by Darkclaw, who tries to make his way with a battered Supes to a safety portal. They make it to the sewers as some villains appear (maybe Deapool rematch, and/or some Sabretooth etc, maybe Daken too), he throws Supes through, deactivates it, turns to face Pool/Tooth, pops his claws, and a we get some very intense action
The heroes rally for a final strike as they get help when booster and spidey pop up with the LSH, all the Ultimates heroes, Image and Wildstorm heroes
The JLA and Avengers then go take on Thanos and Darkseid, where we can finally see some Thor vs Darkseid and some Supes vs Thanos
Once the eggs have been brought back together, the only way for all the multi-verse worlds can survive is for the Spectre or some cosmic being to help Sentry harness his true potential power with the egg and allow for the book ending with there being a main earth with all main companies characters co-existing,
and there being many parallel earth versions like back in the old days. Imagine spidey/spawn, ultimate cap/earth-1 cap, group meetings between JLA/X-men/Authority/Avengers etc
As far as my artistic style mixing goes-
I'm a mad scientist, purposely mixing and playing around with things to see what I come up with, it keeps things fresh and interesting for myself which is why my work looks so stylisticly schizo
No doubt I have many influences and it shows, and when I draw say thor I keep Walt Simonson in mind, I don't have to have a picture of his thor next to me trying to copy his style, haven't done that since I was 13, but I have a grasp in my mind to his line style, which is more scratchy, zig zag lines. From ages 9-13 I studied the line styles of George Perez, John Byrne, Arthur Adams, Todd Mcfarlane, Jim Lee, and Simonson, The problem may be that I studied them too well, and never really developed a distinctive one style to call my own.
I like some characters drawn a certain way, and even though I try to mix these styles together sometimes to come up with hybrid styles, they look too much like the style I have in mind. It's almost like having a photographic memory and being able to go to that image in mind of whichever style I'm thinking of and then applying it to the current image that I'm creating.
I don't think any of my mimicked styles look that close to the original, just related to them. I like the style mixing look, and since I am not activley pursuing a career in the comics industry, I can get away with it. It's fun being outside of the box, creating my own "JAM" comics
Here's the style breakdown of the page 3 of the cap marvel story I did and what I was trying to do-
panel 1- Perez-ish CM, a Lee/Mcfarlane hybrid on BA, Byrne-ish PG
panel 2- Adams-ish PG
panel 3- Perez/Byrne hybrid on Sentry, Perez-ish on Herc & MsM
panel 4- Lee-ish BA vs a Byrne-ish Sentry
panel 5- Simonson-ish CM & Byrne/Perez-ish Herc/MsM
panel 6- Adams-ish Herc, Mcfarlane-ish CM
I've swiped a pose or two in the past from other artists, but when I did that, i would try and not use the same style as them. I now use photo reference from digital stock sites.
So as to not try and post all 150+ pages, I will just post the latest section of stuff from the end of battle section 3 and the beginning of the hero huntdown, but other earlier pages can be found at
this thread
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/showthread.php?t=71698
thanks to all for stopping by and commenting
A far as coloring, I'm not that great at Wacom tablet coloring yet, but I'd like to see folks practice on these to see what they come up with
Oh I brought a new page too
Yes sir, yet another conclusive ending to a major match-up, sorry Rulk fans, but my Supes is more closer to Pre-Crisis than post
Amazing, amazing, and amazing.
Will there be a Deadpool VS Deathstroke show down? It will be frickin' awesome!!
Perfecto....ok 99% awesome. If you added talking it would be perfect.
PS I suck at drawing and I'm just saying it would be cool if there was text, PLEASE DON'T BASH :)
Perfecto....ok 99% awesome. If you added talking it would be perfect.
PS I suck at drawing and I'm just saying it would be cool if there was text, PLEASE DON'T BASH :)
You folks support and encouragement are freakin overwhelming, and I thank you for it
In page 1 of Bats vs Wolvie, there is a hint at the Pool vs Stroke fight, but not sure when or how i might actually show it
I put the pages out there across the internet because my artistic plan is to do a complete 200+ page first-run on pencils, whether messy, incomplete backrounds, anatomical issues, then a second penciling run through to fix and change things up using the input from the fellow fans and critics alike.
this is one of the few places where we can use the html code to run these in one swoop
So here they are in all their unfinished glory, starting from section 1 on to current
I'd like to run by some ideas about the next 5-10 pages here as well
-the next panel is going to show above ground, the hall of justice is under attack and the leftover surviving members of jla, jsa, titans, and outsiders being overtaken by a team of villains led by Count Nefaria and Maxima(or I was going to use Superboy Prime, but maybe I should have Ultrainiac 7 bring him into the book later on at the heroes big stand)
Alan Scott and John Stewart are protecting the hall with a giant green bubble, and below Cap comes up with an idea, he asks Zatanna, Strange, Wanda, and Dr. fate(who appears), to create an enchantment along with Thor's hammer, to transport the entire hall of justice to another dimension for retreat so that regrouping and plans of coordinated efforts can be made. They can do it, but it's going to take some time, time they don't have. So an already beaten down WW, Supes, and Cap, head topside to help buy some time
here's the list of some of the considered villains and heroes
Juggernaught
Bizarro
Absorbing Man
Parasite
Titania
Bullseye
Bane
Kraven
Lady Deathstrike
Taskmaster
Speed Demon
Graviton
Deathlok
Wrecking crew
The possible dc heroes left
Martin Manhunter
Cap Marvel
Vixen
Batgirl
Robin(drake)
Black Lightning
Hal Jordan
Power Girl
Supergirl
Flash
Troia
Wonder Girl
Geo-Force
I know i want to see-
a shot of Kraven vs Vixen, and Titania going at Power Girl
Nefaria will get the better of a battered Supes, who just finished beating Rulk not too long ago, and here are a couple of directions I can go
1- have Sentry(and maybe a couple of of avengers) appear after receiving Caps distress call for backup from any available Avengers, and have Sentry vs Count Nefaria
or
2-If Superboy Prime is used here, I will have JSA kingdom come Superman show up to take on Nefaria, and Sentry will come to take on Superboy Prime
So the major things in consideration are
1-Nefaria/maxima or nefaria/superboy prime led villains?
2-Sentry vs Count Nefaria
or
3-kingdom come Superman vs Nefaria, and Sentry vs Superboy Prime
4-villain/hero line-ups
What do you think and or any extra ideas?
Thanks as always, just checking in to see if any ideas on the upcoming page were out there, since I'll be starting on them soon
some great art and ideas
I think saving SMPrime till the end would be a good idea unless you have some big universal threat in the wings.
Everything looks pretty good to me.
its so good that if it was bound and coloured i would buy it , great job your a very talented artist
Thanks very much,
It would be interesting to see some folks besides me practice coloring some of them
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