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#1 Edited by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

So I really like the art deco style, and I had a bunch of free time so I experimented and got this. I'm pretty proud of it considering I have never done anything in the art deco style before. In retrospect I should have made it a much larger image so the lines look cleaner but oh well.

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Critiques, tips, questions, comments, and concerns are always welcome.

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#2 Edited by BumpyBoo (14791 posts) - - Show Bio

Hehehehe! Aw this is brilliant :)

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#3 Posted by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by BumpyBoo (14791 posts) - - Show Bio

@reddeadjoker: As you should be, is well drawn and really funny ^_^

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#6 Posted by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@deadcool_xd:

O hey a notification. I assuming the contest is probably over now huh.

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#7 Posted by Cutter (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

jaja cool...

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#8 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

the idea and composition are great, but to be truly art deco it really needs to be hand done (not vector) or at least have the angles smoothed out in the outlines which should be smooth but are rather angular. at the moment it is retro and kitsch , but it is not actually "art deco".

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#9 Posted by deadcool_XD (2503 posts) - - Show Bio

@reddeadjoker:

I actually ended up deciding to make my own image, but I still love your art!

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#10 Edited by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

could we see some work done by hand from the artist, please? maybe some coloured ink work and guoache in the old-school style? which is classically "deco" too, btw?

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#11 Edited by AwesomePerson (2767 posts) - - Show Bio

Looks Unique

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#12 Edited by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: Art Deco was the best way the describe it as short as possible, it most resembles art deco to me. Also, I have a bunch of work that is done in the traditional comic style, pencil and ink. I have never tried Art Deco in its true form though.

my inspiration was stuff like this, so you can see where I'm coming from,

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#13 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

Well, as someone who occasionally has been paid to do some panels for companies where they wanted art deco, a better description would be neo-pop-art, as it's more Warhol.

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#14 Posted by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: Ok, I am obviously not as educated on this type thing as you are.

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#15 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been published, so I ask you to excuse me for looking at it through that lens. It was an open question you posted so it's be rather unfair to hold such against my reply.

Have you tried lascaux guoache mixed with some ox gall fluid medium yet, for the hand done work, on illustration board or watercolour paper?

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#16 Posted by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: I don't even know what most of those words mean, generally I work in pencil and ink in a more traditional comic style

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#17 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

what I mentioned is a tradition comics thing. Bisley and Sienkiewicz have used what I posted for comics in print. as for inking in a more traditional comics style, that would not be digital inks or marker pens. it'd be brushes and dip-pens. which dip pens do you use for your traditional art for the inking?

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#18 Edited by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: Im not very good with a quill, I use one my school has occaisionally with india ink, Ive done a bit of inkwash, but for most of my inking i use sharpie. i have colored before with paint markers. I guess sharpie isn't that traditional. when I said traditional I meant not neo-pop art.

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#19 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

sharpies are totes non traditional. quills come in MANY varieties from several companies, and your problem was likely being saddled with the wrong nib. Not to mention that all nibs behave or screw up horribly depending on what paper/board you are inking on. "Bristol" means nothing as comico board and Dark Horse Board and Marvel Board and DC Board and more all all different and many SUCK.

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#21 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

well, on a budget I understand. I'm sorry about that. What you need is some 2 ply Bristol from a real company like Beinfang and a Hunt #100 nib and a Hunt 22 nib. You honestly WILL see a destinct improvement in the final product.

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#23 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

having inked for DC on occasion, trust me, you can take my word.

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#24 Edited by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: I would appreciate your input on some of my other work if you get a chance.

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#25 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

link me.

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#27 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

That's okay, I think in the future you will.

First off, the space shuttle pic, if you did that, is primo. top shelf work.

When you have the chance to do so, life drawing work will improve what you can do greatly. In the meantime, one needs to being layout and panel to panel composition as early s possible, following the work of the best in the field for layout like Kane, Wood, Frazetta, Adams, Colan, Kirby, Byrne, Cockrum, Steranko, Aparo, Rogers, P. Craig Russell and more.

You are getting the basics down but remember there is a fine line: start the difficult stuff as soon as possible, but be forgiving of yourself.

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#28 Posted by RedDeadJoker (248 posts) - - Show Bio

@jugjugbanks: The one with the cat i made. As you may be able to tell, ive been focusing on anatomy and drama as of late.

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#29 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

The drama is good, but you'll need to do life drawing classes when you are able to as soon convenient to you, not merely for anatomy.

You haven't said if you want a future career in comics, but if you do, the only things tht the people whom hire you look at are seqquential pages, with panels (and they don't like seeing spalsh pages or power poses until they ask you for some, which will be after they see your sequential pages, and they won't hire people whom don't draw backgrounds. I am not criticising, I am merely warning you of what the companies want, and how they hire folks.

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#30 Posted by JugJugBanks (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

though, let it be said, it is better for you to practice on better paper with better markers and developing a delicate flow of line before you spend any money on real bristol or india ink and nibs. I suggest some paper with a slight sizing to it (less absorbent than copy paper, like parchement paper for letter writing), and a decent fibre tip pen you can get most places, like the Staedtler triplus fineliner. I'll post something done this way later.

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#31 Posted by Claymore1998 (16541 posts) - - Show Bio

Awesome.