There's a fissure in time that is leaving repercussions in the past, present, and future. Barry Allen must find the Flashpoint before it destroys all time.
Calling it now, this is how DC explains Bruce being the only Batman again. What would be really ballsy, though probably cause a huge backlash, would be rewinding shit all the way back to golden age status, character-wise. (Dick Grayson Robin, etc.)
To be honest, I don't really care at this moment anymore
If it were me, I'd just finish all current story-lines, maybe fix a few past mistakes (like return Cassandra Cain's dignity, or undo the pointless death of Lian Harper, amongst other things), and then completely cancel the entire mainstream continuity Only creator-owned titles and re-prints of stories that stood the test of time should be produced from that point, maybe with the occasional self-contained miniseries with the classic characters, if someone actually gets a good idea for once
My guess is Johns will use this like he used Infinite Crisis to tweak some stuff, but it'll more or less go back to being the same. That or there will be a couple of miniseries that branch out of this for a bit before things gradually go back to being the same.
It's about time I think. Personally I think they need to retire or at least semi-retire some characters and invent some new ones, or at least give more focus to some lesser known preexisting characters.
It's about time I think. Personally I think they need to retire or at least semi-retire some characters and invent some new ones, or at least give more focus to some lesser known preexisting characters.
I have to say a full scale reboot wouldn't be so good in my opinion and I can't really see Morrison letting that happen with the way he is setting up Inc and the Tim Drake being in charge of the Outsiders along with all the other plans that involve Batman. I know somepeople have problems with Morrison but he could be a reason to hope for a few correcting changes versus a total reboot. I could see things happening such as the return of some of the more pointless deaths such as Garth, and Lian, Perhaps, (I hope), one of the changes faceing the Superman comics (since Flashpoint may affect it), is the return of Chris from the Phantom Zone. I really hope it isn't the retconning of Clark and Lois's marriage. I agree that there might be changes for Wonder Woman, hopefully for the better. I would hate Bart to be destroyed, since we just got him back.
I think this is a good idea. The comic book industry needs some new, big things happening.
Only that the 900th DCU reboot is not a 'big thing'. It is a boring think which feels like it has been done over and over already.
Also, the motivation of DC for spreading this rumor is rather transparent. Of course they need to give people the feeling that this is the real deal, that Flashpoint will really change the status quo. 'cause if people expect that after Flashpoint everything will revert back to normal, then DC's big summer event suddenly downgrades about 5 levels from 'blockbuster must-have event' to 'extended What If story'.
but what happens to specific characters storys if they reboot. Such as the bat family what happens to Tim as Red Robin and Dick as Batman will Batman Inc mean anything at the end if it all reboots?
It'd be a shame if they do reboot things. They've done it too much now, to the point where it's becoming as ridiculous as the number of characters who get resurrected.
I think there's a lot they can do with all those new character approaches but no way they fully reboot the dc universe and leave the stuff running right now
Wait..... reboot? I thought this story line took place on a vast meaningless earth from a different dimension that no one cared about?.... So this is really happening? .... OH.... S%*#....
Dang...i didn't know that on august 31st only 1 issue of DC comics will be released...this event MUST be huge and bring about some big changes.
i guess ill start collecting this story event.
I'll give you the benefit of doubt and just assume you are kidding.
oh no please enlighten me with your vast comic book intellect =)
;p
on a serious note though. I do not follow these big story lines that much. They tend to be rather disappointing and just not worth it. How many reboots or big "change" events have we had to go through with DC? If they are changes that will stick Ill welcome them. But if they brush them off in a year...last DC big event I purchase.
Hey, as long as there's a good story behind it and the character is still respectable as it's original version.. then I have no problems with reboots whatsoever.
Have to agree with Raven575. Puh-leese! Let's give these epic themes a break. Usually we have a universe changing storyline once a decade, now DCU does it every month or so. DCU wonders why comic sales are down? It's because readers don't want to buy 50 or 60 issues just to get a storyline. The recent Green Lantern story arcs are a prime example. You couldn't JUST buy Green Lantern to completely follow Blackest Night or Brightest Day, you had to buy all the tie-in titles. Just by reading Brighest Day, you would never know what happened with Max Lord and Magog, if anyone actually cared. My thoughts, narrow down the titles and just get along with normal story lines. We don't need four or five Superman, Batman, Green Lantern titles - one will do. As far as Flashpoint - not read any, not paid any attention to it. As far as the last DC issues I've read, DCU is going downhill. Perhaps it is time to put DCU down like a horse that broke its leg.
new reader here: i just got into comics and this is kind of a good deal, FOR ME! but i can totally understand that people will get frustrated with this ordeal. I guess we will just have to see when Flashpoint #5 comes out.
Have to agree with Raven575. Puh-leese! Let's give these epic themes a break. Usually we have a universe changing storyline once a decade, now DCU does it every month or so. DCU wonders why comic sales are down? It's because readers don't want to buy 50 or 60 issues just to get a storyline. The recent Green Lantern story arcs are a prime example. You couldn't JUST buy Green Lantern to completely follow Blackest Night or Brightest Day, you had to buy all the tie-in titles. Just by reading Brighest Day, you would never know what happened with Max Lord and Magog, if anyone actually cared. My thoughts, narrow down the titles and just get along with normal story lines. We don't need four or five Superman, Batman, Green Lantern titles - one will do. As far as Flashpoint - not read any, not paid any attention to it. As far as the last DC issues I've read, DCU is going downhill. Perhaps it is time to put DCU down like a horse that broke its leg.
LOL Are you willingly ignoring the clusterfuck that was Marvel's Siege or Shadowland? Please! Blackest Night, as an event, was very coherent. You didn't need to buy all the issues unlike with Marvel's crossovers. It's mind-numbing and headache-inducing what Marvel does, and you say that's what DC does? And as for the number of titles, they happen to work just fine. I seriously don't see a problem with having GL, GLC and GL:EW, their stories are self-contained until WotGL, which also happens to do just fine; last week's reviews are a testament to this. You say you don't need multiple titles? Well, I do! It's called variety.
I decieded to look at everything that is going on in August before in the ominous Flashpoint 5, It seems that Batman Incorporated the showdown with the Leviathan Group in the last issue, Gates of Gotham wraps up this month as well. For Clark the Grounded arc is completed with a possibility of him losing what he holds dear (my Bet it involves Lois, hopefully not a DC One More day copy) and in Action has the "final" battle with Doomsday, These few titles along with some others may give a dark feeling to most people, But at the same time in Red Robin Tim finally gets his new HQ ready and deals with Boomerang. Dick and Damian seem to have an adventure that will continue as well. I know I only mentioned a few of the story arcs but it seems that some books have plans to be continued. I have a feeling that it won't be a reboot. perhaps slimming down the number of books somehow. I can't see them getting rid of all the things they have built upon over the last few years. Perhaps they are cutting down on the number of flashes as part of this.
I decieded to look at everything that is going on in August before in the ominous Flashpoint 5, It seems that Batman Incorporated the showdown with the Leviathan Group in the last issue, Gates of Gotham wraps up this month as well. For Clark the Grounded arc is completed with a possibility of him losing what he holds dear (my Bet it involves Lois, hopefully not a DC One More day copy) and in Action has the "final" battle with Doomsday, These few titles along with some others may give a dark feeling to most people, But at the same time in Red Robin Tim finally gets his new HQ ready and deals with Boomerang. Dick and Damian seem to have an adventure that will continue as well. I know I only mentioned a few of the story arcs but it seems that some books have plans to be continued. I have a feeling that it won't be a reboot. perhaps slimming down the number of books somehow. I can't see them getting rid of all the things they have built upon over the last few years. Perhaps they are cutting down on the number of flashes as part of this.
Well, they did hint at the termination of Green Lantern Corps. So, I don't know, I better take this with a grain of salt.
I decieded to look at everything that is going on in August before in the ominous Flashpoint 5, It seems that Batman Incorporated the showdown with the Leviathan Group in the last issue, Gates of Gotham wraps up this month as well. For Clark the Grounded arc is completed with a possibility of him losing what he holds dear (my Bet it involves Lois, hopefully not a DC One More day copy) and in Action has the "final" battle with Doomsday, These few titles along with some others may give a dark feeling to most people, But at the same time in Red Robin Tim finally gets his new HQ ready and deals with Boomerang. Dick and Damian seem to have an adventure that will continue as well. I know I only mentioned a few of the story arcs but it seems that some books have plans to be continued. I have a feeling that it won't be a reboot. perhaps slimming down the number of books somehow. I can't see them getting rid of all the things they have built upon over the last few years. Perhaps they are cutting down on the number of flashes as part of this.
Well, they did hint at the termination of Green Lantern Corps. So, I don't know, I better take this with a grain of salt.
I agree with the grain of salt theory, with the GL Corps, I mean it's been "terminated" before.
What D.C needs to do IS have one final Crisis that really sticks..... I understand Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent, and Wonder Woman etc. are iconic but c'mon. They've been milked dry. They are *dare I say* too old. These guys need to be put to rest before people lose all respect for them. Whenever I see something like this I know whats going to happen. It's TOO predictable. Something big happens but in a year or two, it's as if nothing happened. All the dead and/or warped super heroes are returned to normal and all is right with the world. DC sales are falling because they aren't willing to take a chance. If this whole Flash Point thing really does end up rebooting the big DCU, I for one hope they stick to it. Im a huge Batman fan and I think Thomas Wayne as Batman COULD be a good thing. Sure it's a slap in the face to all the Old School Batfans, but im pretty sure Batman getting canned for good would be an even bigger one. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
Well they just recently said this is exactly what they are going to do. As long as they don't touch the Batman/Catwoman relationship in a negative way I'm perfectly fine with this.
It's been confirmed by Bleeding Cool that DC is indeed rebooting this universe.
I say, GOOD RIDDANCE.
It's about time for some new refreshing interpretations of these characters. The best stories coming out of DC now are the one from alternate universes or serve no purpose to the overall universe. Mainly because it's something new and fresh. Some of these characters, mainly Superman and Wonder Woman have become stale and boring.
I'm not happy about this....what was the point in bring Bruce back, bringing John Constantine and Swamp Thing back to the DC Universe...why go through all the trouble of getting all of their characters back to ground zero like Bruce back as Batman, Barry back as the Flash, and others if they were just going to reboot everything anyway....plus I don't think that people understand the true ramifications of this....all of the 2nd and 3rd generation heroes like the original Teen Titans and current Teen Titans are GONE
I'm not happy about this....what was the point in bring Bruce back, bringing John Constantine and Swamp Thing back to the DC Universe...why go through all the trouble of getting all of their characters back to ground zero like Bruce back as Batman, Barry back as the Flash, and others if they were just going to reboot everything anyway....plus I don't think that people understand the true ramifications of this....all of the 2nd and 3rd generation heroes like the original Teen Titans and current Teen Titans are GONE
John Constantine is still going to be in the new reboot. He's going to appear in the Lois Lane series.
See that trench coat wearing blond guy in front of London's own Big Ben? Take a wild guess on who that is.
As for Swamp Thing and Batman....meh....About time those characters got a reboot. If it means something new and original and fresh. I'll take it.
I'm not happy about this....what was the point in bring Bruce back, bringing John Constantine and Swamp Thing back to the DC Universe...why go through all the trouble of getting all of their characters back to ground zero like Bruce back as Batman, Barry back as the Flash, and others if they were just going to reboot everything anyway....plus I don't think that people understand the true ramifications of this....all of the 2nd and 3rd generation heroes like the original Teen Titans and current Teen Titans are GONE
John Constantine is still going to be in the new reboot. He's going to appear in the Lois Lane series.
See that trench coat wearing blond guy in front of London's own Big Ben? Take a wild guess on who that is. As for Swamp Thing and Batman....meh....About time those characters got a reboot. If it means something new and original and fresh. I'll take it.
that's a Flashpoint book not a new DC Universe book
I'm not happy about this....what was the point in bring Bruce back, bringing John Constantine and Swamp Thing back to the DC Universe...why go through all the trouble of getting all of their characters back to ground zero like Bruce back as Batman, Barry back as the Flash, and others if they were just going to reboot everything anyway....plus I don't think that people understand the true ramifications of this....all of the 2nd and 3rd generation heroes like the original Teen Titans and current Teen Titans are GONE
John Constantine is still going to be in the new reboot. He's going to appear in the Lois Lane series.
See that trench coat wearing blond guy in front of London's own Big Ben? Take a wild guess on who that is. As for Swamp Thing and Batman....meh....About time those characters got a reboot. If it means something new and original and fresh. I'll take it.
that's a Flashpoint book not a new DC Universe book
Flashpoint is the event that's rebooting this universe. Obviously the Flashpoint universe is going to become the new dc universe. Once Flashpoint ends, all of the ongoing series reboots back to a new issue #1. That's the whole point of the reboot. No DC comics will be brought out in August except for Flashpoint, then everything is wiped clean and rebooted. My guess is that the new rebooted series will be in this new Flashpoint universe (which means John Constantine will be in this new rebooted universe) or another universe (Unlikely but if that is the case then it's a toss up if John is in that new universe or not)
But Flashpoint is the whole reason for the reboot, so it's safe to say this new flashpoint universe will probably be the new DC universe
@danhimself: I don't know, seems kind of weird to have Flash travel to this universe of rebooted superheroes and then travel to another universe that becomes to main DCU. It's either he'd make it home to his original universe (Not happening) or stay in the one he traveled too (probably).
I'm not happy about this....what was the point in bring Bruce back, bringing John Constantine and Swamp Thing back to the DC Universe...why go through all the trouble of getting all of their characters back to ground zero like Bruce back as Batman, Barry back as the Flash, and others if they were just going to reboot everything anyway....plus I don't think that people understand the true ramifications of this....all of the 2nd and 3rd generation heroes like the original Teen Titans and current Teen Titans are GONE
Amen! I understand Justice League, God knows that Robinson wasn't doing anything ever since he got paired up with Bagley, as well as with Wonder Woman. But rebooting Superman, Batman, Green Lantern? Coming out with a 52-issue reboot? That's damn near blasphemous! It is industrial insanity and sincerely unnecessary! I was looking forward to have Detective Comics #900 by next year, which at the same time, coincides with the release of The Dark Knight Rises. This example alone is a missed opportunity that DC could have sincerely solidified their footing in comics...
As far as change goes, i think Jim Lee and Geoff Johns are a good pair to do it. Partly due to X-Men's success upon gaining Lee and Claremont, and partly cos i'm used to Jim Lee's art
Reboot wishes ...... Black Canary never hooks up with Green Arrow. There is only 1 Batman. New Krypton, War of the Supermen, Grounded never happens. Superman doesn't hook up with Lois Lane. Aquaman keeps his hand. Wally West is the Flash. Hal Jordan is dead.
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