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    Emperor Palpatine

    Character » Emperor Palpatine appears in 489 issues.

    Palpatine is the public face of Darth Sidious, the heart of the Sith, from the time before the Empire, and until slightly after. His Sith apprentices include: Darth Maul, Darth Tyranus and Darth Vader in addition to multiple Dark Jedi apprentices such as Mara Jade. He is a true master of the Dark Side of the Force and is considered to be the most powerful Sith Lord that ever lived.

    ROTS Palpetine vs Dark Empire Palpetine

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    #1  Edited By dosage

    If you take a look at the Dark Empire Sourcebook, it states:

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    This is mostly subjective; it depends on how much stock you put into the term ' increased significantly'. On the other hand, from the same source we have:

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    If you've read DE, Palpetine had to use the force quite sparingly between his clones to prevent them from literally rotting. He had no such problem in his original body.

    If they had a fight, consider a few things:

    • DE is an old comic, so it doesn't consider ROTS feats
    • DE Palpetine doesn't have access to more than one clone for this battle
    • 30 meters starting distance
    • Fighting on Byss
    • No Prep as mentioned
    • Standard Equipment
    • Morals on

    Note : this thread was not created with a winner in mind, I'm just highlighting some important information. food 4 though.

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    wrong forum

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    @killerwasp: The current Lucky Strike/Red Ranger strikes again.

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    @dosage: No this isnt, this is an argument over if DE palps is stronger than RotS palps, if this was a battle you would stated

    Rots palps vs DE palps. This is not a battle.

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    #6  Edited By dosage

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    What can I say? I'm sorry this thread isn't idiot proof. but it's always a good idea to read to the OP.

    @dosage said:

    If you've read DE, Palpetine had to use the force quite sparingly between his clones to prevent them from literally rotting. He had no such problem in his original body.

    If they had a fight, consider a few things:

    • DE is an old comic, so it doesn't consider ROTS feats
    • DE Palpetine doesn't have access to more than one clone for this battle

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    @dosage: LOL wow insulting a viner already at post 43. Once more this isn't a battle, its why no one is even arguing on it, you're in the wrong forum

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    #8  Edited By dosage

    @killerwasp: flagged for derailing and coating this thread with your salt

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    #9 JediXMan  Moderator

    This is a question, no matter how you try to spin it. You also clearly made it with a particular winner in mind (ROTS > DE).

    Moved to Palpatine's board.

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    @dosage:its not detrailing if its fact, your battle isn't set up properly at all, and people like you shouldn't be here lack of standard knowledge on how to make a battle should be a crime.

    If it's such a battle you speak, where is the fight located? Do they have any amps or non standard gear? Do they have prior knowledge and prep??? Victory conditions? Starting distance?? Outside help??? is it in character or not? What feats are allowed, strictly RotS and strictly DE??? You know the common sense rules.... Flag all you want get your stuff right and you wouldn't be bugged about it, this isnt derailing, your just mad cause your bad. However, flag all you want it wont matter because I'm flagging for a real reason, which is you being a jerk for no reason at all. Your set up is terrible, you got this going on for some reason ROTS palps > DE palps instead of oh you know the common way RotS palps vs DE palps, and didn't even bother tagging anyone at all, and lack of rules makes it bad, and you're biased in the fight as well.... sigh save ur flags for a real reason.

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    Palpy's feats in D.E. are still better; his Force Storms can be used at an instant whereas it took RotS Sidious prep, and he's more powerful than a non-amped Luke, who brought down Imperial Walkers with a hand gesture, has casually deflected lasers from an Imperial Walker, has one-shotted Sedriss, blocked Sedriss's Force pushes, collapsed a gigantic statue of Vader like it was nothing, etc.

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    There are other quotes establishing the fact that Palpatine's powers increased after the Battle of Endor:

    Resurrected in a youthful clone body, Palpatine does not reveal himself immediately. Studying the dark side of the Force to become more powerful, his education results in three manifestos: The Book of Anger, The Weakness of Inferiors, and The Creation of Monsters.

    --Taken from The Ultimate Visual Guide

    Palpatine knew precisely why the Empire couldn’t last without his dread power: he had designed it that way. No one ever suspected how much he relied on the Dark Side of the Force. He shaped those of his government by using the Force against them. He used it to control his fleets and to drive his soldiers on to victory. He used it to destroy his enemies from a distance and learn of conspiracies against him. Without it, there was no way the Empire could endure, as he had designed it. The Dark Side flowed through him like some primordial ichor and was the key to all his power.

    Soon he was ready to strike. Fully healed and in greater control of the Dark Side than ever, he finally acted to end the Mutiny.

    --Taken from Dark Empire Sourcebook

    Concerning feats, RotS Sidious has a longer list of combat feats, between killing Jedi and wrecking rival dark siders, but what few combat showings DE Palpatine does have are still good. Same is true for comparative physical feats. Comparing Force feats, one obvious skill DE Palpatine has that RotS Palpatine never did is Force Storm, which he learned some time after RotS but before RotJ and was perfecting it until DE. His skill with the Force Storm was sufficient for him to generate wormholes at will, accurately enough to collect Luke from Coruscant and transport him unharmed to a ship which brought him to Byss. He also appears to have greater reserves of Force energy, having himself become a Force nexus. Palpatine's mastery of Essence Transfer is similarly impressive, a skill he never learned until well after RotS. Although Evasive Action portrays Palpatine beginning construction on Byss and draining its inhabitants, construction and population of the planet never finished until some time after; his mental subjugation of Byss is something he didn't appear to exhibit in Evasive Action and thereby must have occurred later. His dark side influence over the Empire gradually grew after its initial inception as well. Despite RotS Palpatine already having spread his darkness over the galaxy and imbalancing the Force toward the dark side, his penumbral influence continued to expand in the years leading up to RotJ until, as the DE sourcebook tells us, the Empire is completely unable to function without his dark side control and guidance. His Sith alchemy and his various creations were developed mostly after RotS as well.

    Overall, combatively, there probably isn't much of a difference between them, but as regards knowledge, mastery, and the progression of Sith techniques, Palpatine did grow after Revenge of the Sith. DE Palpatine is the most powerful and formidable incarnation of the character, the unreliability of his clones notwithstanding.

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    Yeah, Palpatine is still more powerful, even by more recent sources published after RotS. I doubt there's a real disparity in skill between the two, or even physical differences, but DE Palpatine is simply more powerful, masterful and knowledgeable in the Force.

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    DE Sidious curbstomps.

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    They have a cup of coffee together

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    DE Sidious stomps.

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