How do you think Emma will fair post Schism?
with there being a new Hellfire Club will she go back to them (or will she be its leader)?
Will she side with Scott or Wolverine
or do you think she will be pushed to the side and leave the x-men?
Emma Frost
Character » Emma Frost appears in 6154 issues.
Emma Frost is a fictional character originating from Marvel Comics. Originally starting off as a super villain and enemy of the X-Men, during which she was the White Queen of the Hellfire Club, Emma Frost is a powerful mutant telepath who can transform herself into organic diamond. She has become a prominent member of the X-Men. A gifted teacher, Emma is renowned for her beauty, wit, and sense of fashion.
Emma post Schism
She'll stay with Scott, and he'll stay with her. If they leave, they'll leave together. As a partnership.
I've been thinking abut making a post like this, so I'm glad you've done it. I'm not convinced she'll side with Cyclops. She's still discovering more of Cyclops' secrets & is irritated at the very mention or thought of Jean.
Don't even put that out there. If Emma and Scott split, argh, I don't even want to think about it.I've been thinking abut making a post like this, so I'm glad you've done it. I'm not convinced she'll side with Cyclops. She's still discovering more of Cyclops' secrets & is irritated at the very mention or thought of Jean.
If done right, I'd really dig the idea of a new Hellfire Club though, I can't help but think Emma might think it a bad idea to sort of return to the past, even with a new attitude. I really miss the aspect of her teaching and interacting with students. Now that I think about it, most of my favorite Emma scenes in recent years have been to do with her and students. Negasonic Teenage Warhead stuff, Cuckoos stuff, X-23 stuff, Hellion stuff, when she chewed out Ms Marvel, plus a few other such moments. I'd prefer if she didn't really side with either Wolverine or Cyclops. She works better as a twitchy character thats unpredictable in such moments, prone to shouting at one side, but then turning around and shouting at the other.
I think she is too valuable an asset to the X-Men brand, so she'll be somewhere.
@SC: I hadn't thought of the possibility of returning to the Hellfire Club. But I know what you mean about her being involved in the X-Men "Brand". After Wolverine & the X-Men and X-Men First Class, it's clear that Marvel WANT her to be publicly associated with the X-Men.
However, if Schism is going to be so big that it leads to the cancellation of Uncanny X-Men, then I would not be surprised if she leaves Cyclops. And if Jean does somehow return (and considering the current trend in Uncanny X-Men to ignore established continuity) then I wouldn't be surprised if it throws Cyclops enough for Emma to walk out on him. Just look at her reaction to the appearance of the Evolutionaries. Just the very mention of Jean's name left her reeling.
Yost use to write Emma so much better in New X-Men.
@SC: It's true. She was the b!£ch with a heart in New X-Men.
And I agree that they all need space. Being on different teams is one thing. Perhaps even return Emma Frost to the Massachusetts Academy? The Westchester school has been rebuilt so many times, I'm sure the Mass Acad can be rebuilt to it's former glory too. Let her focus on being a teacher again, not just a mutant-fodder trainer.
I think she's gonna stay with Scott. i don't see her going back to the Hellfire club whether it's a new one or not, especially after Quarantine since it wasn't that long ago, and to me the significance of that was to finally show Emma's moved on and put the idea of her returning to the HFC whether new or old to rest or it should for atleast awhile. And if she did decide to go with Wolverine, i wouldn't be ticked off, but if anything I would end up being more confused as to why. Just my 2 cents.
Emma Frost is a woman of age. She obviously loves being a mentor/teacher to young people, yet she's expressed no desire for kids. Yes she has the Cuckoos, but they have no emotion and aren't completely in love with her. I'd like to see Emma take on a role that gets her back to using her unique set of maternal instincts. I also want her to have a child one day, via surrogate of course, but that's way off.
I don't want to see her go off and do her own thing :( I like her as a prominent X-Men figure. But I actually want her to take Logan's side. I love her and Scott's relationship and want that to last, but I'm tired of seeing her as Scott's accesory on a team.. At least that's how I see it.
Based off the new interview i read covering the Schism, i even put it up on the schism board, is it's basically just splitting the team , one goes Wolverine, one goes Cyclops. I'm positive that Emma will stay with Scott's. And as for Jean, Cykes has moved on, and they i think they have established that. If anything though too, i'd like Jean go with Wolverine and his group. It would be like the opposite of Emma and Cyclops.
" Of course, Wolverine isn't leaving the franchise either as a result of the series with Aaron saying, "There will definitely be a different situation for Wolverine to be in that changes his role."
With X-men lately, telling where things will end up is getting to be quite the chore. I couldn't have guessed for you that Colossus would end up becoming the Juggernaut, nor Legion would
have " Dial-A-Power ". Where I hope is not any kind of a huge weird twist/change because I actually like the point they've developed Emma to currently.
What I would like to see (and most probably will not happen)is for Emma to become a solo series character. I feel at this point Emma would really shine as a solo hero. Let a more than decent author have a crack at her, allowing them the chance to deeply explore the White Queen we all know and love today. I would love to see more of Emma's past catch cup to her in the future: HFC, Astrid Bloom, her brother Christian, and anything else that could tie into her past and be somewhat plausible. I want Emma to choose a third route, one where her passion guides her to find and teach mutants. I want to see Emma as a strong anti-hero female and not Scott's moral support.
Actually i like the idea of Emma being a teacher again, and a new X-students book would be a welcome addition.I don't think there's any chance of another student book as long as Generation Hope is still going on. But at least Emma did do some teaching there even if it seems Hope really does not like her.
Also seems very doubtful that the former "New X-Men" students would be put back in class (at least in a book about it) now that they have already graduated in a way due to Cyclops proclaiming everyone to be X-Men. Seems to me the best they can hope for is to get a little focus every now and then between being wallpaper and event-fodder.
Emma has lost her independence sine becoming the blonde Jean. She's whiney & weepy if she doesn't have Cyclops' attention for more than 5 minutes. She's reduced to being his bit in bed. Even when written by a competant writer like Chris Yost, she's still reeling from the very mention of Jean's name.
Emma needs to be away from Cyclops & rediscover her what made her the uber b!£ch White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
I'm not saying that she should join the HFC, because I don't agree with that! She's moved on from being a typical scantilly clad villain. But she needs that viscious spark that made her worthy of being an iconic figure in the world of mutantkind.
Even? I think only would be closer to the truth even if also other writers are to "blame". I don't recall any other writers who have regularly had her weeping though. Well, there is Fraction who had her shed a single tear during Utopia while they were fighting the Sentinelized citizens. But at least that was not related to Cyclops ;)Emma has lost her independence sine becoming the blonde Jean. She's whiney & weepy if she doesn't have Cyclops' attention for more than 5 minutes. She's reduced to being his bit in bed. Even when written by a competant writer like Chris Yost, she's still reeling from the very mention of Jean's name.
I personally think she should move away from Utopia and become the lead in Legacy after the Havok Polaris Marvel Girl stuff. It should go back to being character specific and having a character go on a meaningful arc so maybe she could find her sister and brother or maybe Astrid could come back i don't know just something centring on her as a character for an arc or two but it shouldn't take her back to the hellfire club in any way it should deal with a different part of her life.
I do however, think she should stay with Cyclops just because his character has benefited from her but i agree with Xerox she imo should go back to how she was written in Grant Morrison's run thats where I personally went from being a Jean Grey fan to being an Emma Frost fan
Marvel NEEDS a new x-students book with Emma being a teacher again.@fesak said:
Actually i like the idea of Emma being a teacher again, and a new X-students book would be a welcome addition.@lorex said:
I just can't see her ending things with Scott, but I could see her going a separate way as a teacher while Cyclops heads up a team. The one thing I see coming is the X-Men will not all be concentrated in one location, however the leadership struggle shakes out.
Agree with all these usersEmma has lost her independence sine becoming the blonde Jean. She's whiney & weepy if she doesn't have Cyclops' attention for more than 5 minutes. She's reduced to being his bit in bed. Even when written by a competant writer like Chris Yost, she's still reeling from the very mention of Jean's name.
Emma needs to be away from Cyclops & rediscover her what made her the uber b!£ch White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
I'm not saying that she should join the HFC, because I don't agree with that! She's moved on from being a typical scantilly clad villain. But she needs that viscious spark that made her worthy of being an iconic figure in the world of mutantkind.
Yes, she HAS moved on from being a scantily clad villain. She's now a scantily clad super hero... LOL! (I'm just playing.)Emma has lost her independence sine becoming the blonde Jean. She's whiney & weepy if she doesn't have Cyclops' attention for more than 5 minutes. She's reduced to being his bit in bed. Even when written by a competant writer like Chris Yost, she's still reeling from the very mention of Jean's name.
Emma needs to be away from Cyclops & rediscover her what made her the uber b!£ch White Queen of the Hellfire Club.
I'm not saying that she should join the HFC, because I don't agree with that! She's moved on from being a typical scantilly clad villain. But she needs that viscious spark that made her worthy of being an iconic figure in the world of mutantkind.
I would actually like to see what Cellphonegirl said, Emma leading a new team of "new mutants."
I only see one small problem with that (which I could overlook.) I can still remember (somewhat) what it was like to be a teenage guy... I cannot fathom having a teacher that looks and dresses like Emma and actually LEARNING from her. My mind would have been....elsewhere.... LOL!
Nonetheless, I think Emma is a great character...She's a leader and needs to get out of Scott's shadow.... ALTHOUGH, it's getting to where becoming a student of Emma Frost is like being the new guy on Star Trek that wears the red shirt at the beginning of the episode....
Well, spoilers for post-schism show that she's splitting with Scott and is going to be in Wolverine's team.That's not confirmed. It's a stupid image and the worst idea ever.
It's just a picture.
@dm_jlifan: If that's true, then Rogue and Magneto are also splitting up. And Prof. X gets cut in half. It's just a picture.We'll see come October. Marvel releases these images for a reason. Besides, most of the fans want Scott/Emma to split so Marvel might actually cater to them. Personally I want them to stay together, and if they do I'm happy If not then its okay since I don't follow any X-book anymore.
If you notice in the promo, Emma is leaning on Wolverine but her hand is on Cyclops' shoulder. Not saying that the image has anything to do with what will actually take place, but if it does perhaps this means Emma is working as a double-agent for Cyclops on Wolverine's team (like she did with Norman Osborn) so that Cyclops can keep tabs on "Wolverine and the X-Men". Prof. X being split in half would also clearly indicate that he is split between both sides. On one hand he is loyal to Cyclops, who he thinks of as a son, but on the other hand he is perhaps more ideologically inclined to side with Wolverine.Or it's a family picture split in half?
No doubt the writers will think they are being clever and try to throw a curve ball at us. Personally I hope Emma stays with Scott no matter what. That being said I think this a good time for her he reclaim some of her inner bitch.
She needs to be written with a bit more of an edge and recently her attempt to get rid of Shaw was a step in the right direction. Others have said it but Emma needs more exploration of her past, like her family, her HFC days
perhaps an old rival, Astrid Bloom and what became of her.
I love that poster. It reminds me so much why I love Bachalo's art.
I've said all along that Emma needs to get some breathing space from Cyclops. It doesn't mean that she's divorcing him (although they're not technically married, only common-law man & wife... but I can't imagine Emma liking the word 'wommon' being applied to her ;)
@AngelDust616 said:
@xerox-kitty: I like Bachalo's art quite a bit as well. As much as I enjoy Cyclops and Emma together, you make a good point. Some time away from Cyclops would certainly help her evaluate her life. Recently their relationship has just been written so poorly, with Emma either flipping her shit at the mere mention of Jean (I have trouble believing that Emma Frost, queen bitch and all-around badass chick, would be that neurotic) or her treating Cyclops like he's whipped (after the AoX events where he kissed Frenzy). Whenever they are written properly, as equals who feed off each other's strengths, it's easy to see why the two of them together is infinitely better than Cyclops being with Jean.
Couldn't agree more with this post if I wanted to. Well said.
Hope Courtney Ross and Emma get into it, wonder how the White Queens will settle everything out ever since their last encounter.
Reclaim her "Inner Bitch" ??? LOL!!!! I LOVE that expression... I completely agree with you. Well said...No doubt the writers will think they are being clever and try to throw a curve ball at us. Personally I hope Emma stays with Scott no matter what. That being said I think this a good time for her he reclaim some of her inner bitch. She needs to be written with a bit more of an edge and recently her attempt to get rid of Shaw was a step in the right direction. Others have said it but Emma needs more exploration of her past, like her family, her HFC days perhaps an old rival, Astrid Bloom and what became of her.
Oh, and Scott and Emma definitely break up... That'll make it easier for Scott to get back together with Jean when she comes back to life... AGAIN....
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