Elektra Respect Thread

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NOTE:

See POST 34for a compilation of ALL of Earth-616 Elektra's feats from this thread.

See POST 24 for the 2003 Daredevil and 2005 Elektra movies.

See POST 26 for the Netflix shows (Daredevil season 2 and Defenders)

There is an excellent Elektra respect thread on Killer Movies. However it has not been updated in a few years. So this thread will sort of be a continuation of that threads and deal with some of her more recent feats.

The basic goal here is to show that Elektra is an extremely formidable H2H combatant with highly developed skills and abilities. I will skip over most of her various chi and psychic-based abilities, although she has used them on multiple occasions, just because they are somewhat inconsistent. However see the Killer Movies thread for examples of those if you are interested.

First I will sum up some of her past feats, which you can find on that thread. Please check out that thread for scans, or I can supply specific examples here upon request.

SUMMARY OF THE PAST

BATTLES

Elektra has defeated opponents such as Silver Samurai, Domino, Taskmaster, and Bullseye (granted, she lost to Taskmaster and Bullseye before she beat them, although even her first loss to Taskmaster was only due to him adopting the movements of her former love Daredevil, which emotionally threw her off and allowed him to take advantage of her distraction; before that, she was winning). She ended a short skirmish with Daredevil by putting him a chokehold, and took him down him a couple times when taking by surprise or when he was sick. I would point out that while these latter DD examples are often taken as asterisks (i.e. not real wins due to extenuating circumstances) I think they’re actually pretty solid since there’s not a heck of a lot of folks out there who can take him by surprise under any circumstances.

She beat Wolverine in Redeemer, and used nerve strikes to incapacitate him twice in a fight when he was mind-controlled in Enemy of the State. She also worked alongside him to kill a truly insane amount of Hand ninjas—seemingly in the hundreds—at once. Wolverine, who ought to know, has also called her the “world’s greatest ninja.”

She fought and defeated a group of amped Skrulls, who had powers and skills to mimic her own, plus those of Ghost Rider, Cyclops, Wolverine, Daredevil, and Nightcrawler, before finally being defeated by one with the powers of Colossus.

SKILLS

At the beginning of a short skirmish with Shang-Chi that ended in a friendly stalemate, he was holding a fly in some chopsticks. She cut the head off the fly, leaving the rest untouched. A very high feat of skill, especially considering that he wasn’t intentionally letting her cut it.

She has caught thrown knives on multiple occasions, and broke the blade of one in her hands.

She has used nerve strikes and touches, and joint breaks and locks, on multiple occasions, including breaking a wrist with her sai, or knocking someone out simply while shaking his hand.

She has thrown a sai into the barrel of a gun on multiple occasions. Once, after she threw the sai, the gun exploded when jammed, and she caught the sai after it was thrown out of the exploded gun.

She has strong internal body control, having demonstrated heartbeat control, the ability to deal with extremely cold temperatures in little clothing, and the ability to avoid Daredevil’s radar sense.

In a fight against another skilled ninja, she flipped above her in the air and intentionally cut the headband off the woman, without cutting her forehead at all. Imagine the amazingly finely-tuned ability this would take, to not cut a fraction of an inch farther than she did—while leaping in the air against a moving opponent.

She cut a guy’s limbs off, without removing them from his body, so he was still standing there alive with them all attached some time later, until the Punisher disturbed his body and they all fell off. Again, a ridiculous feat of anatomical knowledge and weapon control.

SPEED

In what is either an extreme feat of speed or an example of “ninja mind tricks/chi usage” (or a mixture of speed and chi), she was able to steal a suitcase from under a table in public and broad daylight from a watchful agent, and then return it later on, without either of the people at the table seeing her.

She has also disappeared from right in front of people on multiple other occasions, including in front of Nick Fury.

She has speed blitzed multiple camps/bases of enemy soldiers. Now most of these guys are fodder, but the point is that she has done it so quickly that she is able to defeat most of them before they even realized she was there, or could move, or could attack back. The efficiency is what is impressive.

When almost dead from dehydration and exposure in the desert, she was still able to kill a snake before it struck her.

She has blocked automatic machine gun fire with her sais, and redirected them back towards their shooter.

While standing several feet away from the Punisher, and while talking with him, she stole the gun out of his hands without him even noticing.

She has raced past people who are holding guns on her before they can fire, on multiple occasions.

STRENGTH

She lifted two guys who were impaled on her sais up in the air (one on each arm).

She carried a guy up a ladder holding him with one arm.

She threw a sai into the barrel of a gun, which then was rammed through the guy’s body (and his body armor) by the force of the thrown sai.

She has pierced Red She Hulk’s body with her sai. This could either be an example of strength or skill; in many martial arts traditions, the ability to focus one’s efforts or chi to penetrate or cut through an otherwise seemingly unbreakable object is an example of great skill/chi usage rather than mere muscular strength. Regardless, she has intense striking power.

She has broken 6 cinderblocks at once with a hand strike. Again, this could be seen as an example of strength or skill or both.

She has kicked through brick walls, seemingly without much effort.

She has punched through people’s bodies (with her bare hand) on multiple occasions, sometimes pulling their heart out while doing so. Again, this could be a mix of both strength and skill.

FOUND WEAPONS

She is very good at using found objects as weapons, having used her earrings as shuriken against the Hand, ice shards as throwing weapons against the Hand, an ashtray as a thrown weapon to kill a sniper, and a top ninja’s belt as a weapon against him. She was able to spit out one of her teeth to wound Paladin.

RECENT EVENTS

So, now let's catch up to more current feats.

Before I start with the current series, here are a couple random things from the recent past.

A fight with Bullseye. In it, she catches a bullet he throws at her, shoots it by stabbing the end of the bullet with her sai, then catches an arrow he shoots. The arrow is barbed and poisoned, and he kicks her off the roof. Despite her heavily drugged state--he remarks how strong the drugs are--she survives the multi-story fall, and then defeats him in H2H.

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A scene from a Batroc story. Batroc talks about how much mercenary supervillains are paid to fight heroes. Captain America is worth a certain amount. Black Widow is worth two-thirds that because, he says, his field is chauvinistic. But Elektra, despite being a woman, is worth 1.5x what Cap is worth, because she is so deadly.

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A scene with Night Nurse. Elektra tosses a miniscule medical device at Night Nurse's knees to make her fall down and not get hit by an incoming threat. This is a nice accuracy/skill feat because of the small size of the object--to throw something so small hard enough to knock someone down is not easy to do.

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Now on to the current series:

Elektra fights Lady Bullseye. According to Elektra, only a few people on earth can defeat Lady Bullseye--and she does have some good feats to back up that reputation.

This is an awesome fight, which includes Elektra blocking some shuriken with her sais. In the end Elektra defeats and almost kills her; LB would have died if she was not later saved by a guy named Bloody Lips.

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Who is Bloody Lips?

He is a metahuman who can copy the powers, abilities, and memories of people and animals by eating part of them. By the time he first clashes with Elektra, he has copied the abilities of Bullseye, Lady Bullseye, Scalphunter, multiple SHIELD agents, a giant monster from Monster Island, a shark, an ogre-faced spider, and a rhino (and presumably other unnamed animals and people in the past). He can see in the dark, has enhanced strength of an undetermined limit (he says he can rip apart an armored car with his bare hands, and after that he eats the monster that he says enhances his strength multiple times more), has enhanced speed, can breathe underwater, can swim at shark speeds, has Scalphunter's techno-transformation powers and healing factor, and the accumulated fighting skills of all the above characters, specifically including Bullseye's ability to turn anything into a weapon and throw it with great accuracy.

Here are some scans from multiple issues where he explains his powers.

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Here he blitzes some SHIELD agents and eats part of Bullseye

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Here he explains how much more he wants the abilities of Elektra compared to that of Lady Bullseye

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Back to Elektra.

In their first fight, Bloody Lips attacks Elektra in an underwater base, which rapidly fills with water. Despite his physical enhancements (she notes at one point that he can break through 12" of reinforced glass) and the fact that he is able to breathe and swim like a shark, she gets in most of the hits and forces him to a stalemate in which she intentionally allows him to try to drown her so she can stab him through the skull (and thereby saving her companion). Both of them are then stopped by a psychic attack from a third person who at the time is unknown.

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Elektra throws off the attack and swims to the surface, saving her companion on the way, going an extremely long time underwater without breathing. (I didn't bother to make scans of this but it was a while.)

She meets with another associate and they fly away but are followed by Bloody Lips. She jumps out of her plane, breaks into his, drops some bombs, and dives out, showing an extremely impressive aerial acrobatic ability.

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She crash lands in the arctic and is confronted by a top assassin, Cape Crow. More on her battle with him, and another battle with Bloody Lips, coming up soon in my next post. Plus, her recent appearance in Thunderbolts fighting Punisher.

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So after Elektra crashes, she ends up in a fight with Cape Crow.

Who is Cape Crow?

He's a new character, but supposed to be one of the greatest assassins around. However he retired and the other top assassins tried to kill him a few years ago. He faced off against Sabretooth, Bullseye, Scalphunter, and Taskmasterall at once and beat them all.

Let me repeat that. He beat Sabretooth, Bullseye, Scalphunter, and Taskmaster all at once.

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So, his son paid Elektra to find and help him, and she found him. But he doesn't want to be found, and they fight.

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He shoots at her but misses (it sort of looks like he hits her check but the narration explicitly says he misses, and we don’t see a wound later on, so I think it’s a miss), but it turns out he’s herding her towards him—he’s very strategic. They fight H2H, and not surprisingly this seemingly unbeatable guy is ahead, until he tells her that he’s a precog. He can see what someone is going to do a split second ahead of time, and avoid it/take advantage of it.

So she turns her mind off and fights back purely intuitively, sort of like Iron Fist's or Wolverine's fights vs Mister X. Now she does better. While he trashed an entire team of top-level villains a few years ago, she now gets in 5 hits to his 3 in the next series of exchanges.

Then he knocks away her sai and goes to grab it, but he is paralyzed by a neuro-shock when he touches it. It turns out that since she was killed by her own sai by Bullseye, she had a fail-safe built in so no one else can use them.

So she clearly beats him. It’s a win by prep or strategy, essentially, but still that’s impressive given this guy’s rep and past feats, and also given that she seemed to have the upper hand by the time he sort of desperately went for the sai.

Then Bloody Lips show back up.

Now he’s eaten a polar bear on top of all the other stuff he’d eaten before. He has seemingly increased in size to maybe 8 or 9 feet tall, and has claws. So this now-very-physically-amped guy claws at her with a pretty bloody strike. She fights back and stabs him through the head again (remember he has a healing factor in addition to enhanced speed and strength) but he grabs her. Then she decides to let him eat a little of her blood. It turns out that her memories are so insane and painful, he goes temporarily nuts. She takes advantage and kicks him off the ledge.

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Again, a clear win by smart tactics, and before that, still a good showing against a very amped and skilled character (stabbing him in the head would have put down any normal character). Plus, it shows the strength of mind she has to live with herself, considering that this already-nutball guy who has eaten all kinds of other nutballs can’t deal with her memories even for a short time.

It’s also worth noting how much punishment she takes here. Cape Crow was really giving her some serious hits, even in the second half of the fight, and Bloody Lips got a hard slash in there too, but she tanked them like they barely happened. (Later pages show her seemingly unhurt, not to mention not freezing in the arctic wearing the equivalent of a bathing suit, while the others are in full arctic gear).

Next issue will apparently bring the return of Lady Bullseye so that will be great.

Meanwhile, over in Thunderbolts,

Elektra has been having a relationship with Punisher but it’s gone sour. First we see Punisher remembering an old fight where they took out a yakuza stronghold. It’s mostly against fodder, but it’s a fun scene. He comments on the elegance of her style and also points out that it was one of the only times he felt outclassed.

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Most of the scenes here will feature Elektra vs Punisher. Frank is a pretty good H2H fighter, but he’s obviously not as good as her; I don’t think that’s controversial. What’s interesting is how clearly understands this fact.

Then, we see another flashback where Punisher and Elektra are training/sparring. Elektra easily deflects and dodges him time and again, and he gets mad because (as he says) she’s holding back while doing so. He even says he could “never” take her out physically. She also runs along the edge of a sword while it is being thrown in the air!

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So the point of this isn’t to show that she’s better than him, it’s to show just how far above him she is. She is on a whole other echelon.

Then later they fight in earnest. Or at least he’s fighting her in earnest, and she’s trying to figure out why, and so is holding back again. Once again, it’s painfully obvious how much better she is than he is. He drops her first by taking her by surprise, but she breaks his hand and throws away his knife, then cuts a grenade in half (recognizing ahead of time that it won’t blow up if she does, showing some modern weapons knowledge). She catches a thrown knife and says she can do this all day. She outruns him to a tree even though he started off closer.

Finally she gives him the chance to shoot her, standing still in front of him and putting a gun in his hand. But she warns him that if he does try to shoot, she’ll finally react seriously and kill him. He drops his gun in acknowledgement that he couldn’t stop her even when it looks like he has all the advantages.

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Now again, Punisher is not the best fighter in the Marvel Universe. But he does have some good fights against guys like Moon Knight and Bullseye and has clashed repeatedly with Daredevil and Spider-Man, albeit usually when he has weapons or prep. But again the point isn’t to show that she’s better than him, it’s that he has no chance whatsoever against her, and that’s pretty impressive. Punisher is normally at least willing to tangle with top streetlevel fighters; Elektra seems to be on a whole other unachievable level in his mind.

So to sum up from the past few issues:

Elektra has decidedly put down Lady Bullseye (someone who she says only a few people in the world can beat), Cape Crow (a precog who has simultaneously beaten Taskmaster, Sabretooth, Scalphunter, and Bullseye), and Bloody Lips (a massively physically amped guy with the skills/powers of Bullseye, Lady Bullseye, Scalphunter, and others). Some from tactics and prep, some from pure H2H skills. Plus during all this she tanked significant hits without much effect, survived underwater for great lengths of time, and jumped from one plane into another. In addition, she beat Punisher with embarrassing ease and ran across a sword blade in mid-air. All in all, a pretty solid record.

So, that’s where we are right now. I’ll keep updating this thread with new issues, and may dig into my back issues some more to see what else I’ve got.

Again, if anyone wants to see scans of the feats I mentioned at the top of the first post, I can post them upon request, I just didn’t want to replicate the other guy’s entire thread here.

I’d be especially interested to see any other good feats from the Thunderbolts series (or other recent series), I haven’t been following Thunderbolts much. Please post that sort of thing if you have it!

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#3 Edited by cameron83 (8548 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

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#4 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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#5 Posted by cameron83 (8548 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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I agree. I always saw Elektra as more skilled. I mean,I guess Black Widow's russian SSS would allow her to hang,but I honestly think that Elektra should have won. Then again,for the past few years,Black Widow has held her own against skilled fighters. Recently she went up against Lady Bullseye IIRC.

Anyway,I know Elektra has many more bullet cutting feats and whatnot. I might search later. There's a CAV of her with @lvenger currently.

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#6 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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I agree. I always saw Elektra as more skilled. I mean,I guess Black Widow's russian SSS would allow her to hang,but I honestly think that Elektra should have won. Then again,for the past few years,Black Widow has held her own against skilled fighters. Recently she went up against Lady Bullseye IIRC.

Anyway,I know Elektra has many more bullet cutting feats and whatnot. I might search later. There's a CAV of her with @lvenger currently.

I'm in agreement with you two here. Elektra should have eventually taken the win due to vastly superior skill though I can understand why Black Widow's stats gave her the win. Actually, if I recall correctly, Black Widow had trouble against Lady Bullseye in Secret Avengers whereas Elektra managed to beat her and stated that she was one of the fighters in the world capable of beating Lady Bullseye. I mention that in my Elektra vs Shang-Chi CAV. Thanks for spreading the word of it Cameron, I appreciate it. I was going to call Owie for votes anyway though seeing how he's an Elektra expert.

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@cameron83 said:

@owie said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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I agree. I always saw Elektra as more skilled. I mean,I guess Black Widow's russian SSS would allow her to hang,but I honestly think that Elektra should have won. Then again,for the past few years,Black Widow has held her own against skilled fighters. Recently she went up against Lady Bullseye IIRC.

Anyway,I know Elektra has many more bullet cutting feats and whatnot. I might search later. There's a CAV of her with @lvenger currently.

I'm in agreement with you two here. Elektra should have eventually taken the win due to vastly superior skill though I can understand why Black Widow's stats gave her the win. Actually, if I recall correctly, Black Widow had trouble against Lady Bullseye in Secret Avengers whereas Elektra managed to beat her and stated that she was one of the fighters in the world capable of beating Lady Bullseye. I mention that in my Elektra vs Shang-Chi CAV. Thanks for spreading the word of it Cameron, I appreciate it. I was going to call Owie for votes anyway though seeing how he's an Elektra expert.

Yeah, I think Elektra has the superior skill feats and honestly even better speed and strength feats. BW doesn't actually win here though, it's a stalemate with the two holding their weapons at each other's throats. My reading of the BW/Lady Bullseye fight was that Lady Bullseye was going to win if she hadn't been hit by the truck, whereas Elektra took a clear win over LB. (Of course if LB is coming back next issue we'll see how that goes.) Tag me when your CAV is done, I'd be really curious about that.

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@owie said:

@lvenger said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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I agree. I always saw Elektra as more skilled. I mean,I guess Black Widow's russian SSS would allow her to hang,but I honestly think that Elektra should have won. Then again,for the past few years,Black Widow has held her own against skilled fighters. Recently she went up against Lady Bullseye IIRC.

Anyway,I know Elektra has many more bullet cutting feats and whatnot. I might search later. There's a CAV of her with @lvenger currently.

I'm in agreement with you two here. Elektra should have eventually taken the win due to vastly superior skill though I can understand why Black Widow's stats gave her the win. Actually, if I recall correctly, Black Widow had trouble against Lady Bullseye in Secret Avengers whereas Elektra managed to beat her and stated that she was one of the fighters in the world capable of beating Lady Bullseye. I mention that in my Elektra vs Shang-Chi CAV. Thanks for spreading the word of it Cameron, I appreciate it. I was going to call Owie for votes anyway though seeing how he's an Elektra expert.

Yeah, I think Elektra has the superior skill feats and honestly even better speed and strength feats. BW doesn't actually win here though, it's a stalemate with the two holding their weapons at each other's throats. My reading of the BW/Lady Bullseye fight was that Lady Bullseye was going to win if she hadn't been hit by the truck, whereas Elektra took a clear win over LB. (Of course if LB is coming back next issue we'll see how that goes.) Tag me when your CAV is done, I'd be really curious about that.

Same here, LB had a clear edge over Widow whereas the shoe was on the other foot with Elektra. A clear demonstration that Elektra>Widow. And sure thing, you were already on my tag list anyway.

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@lvenger said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie said:

@cameron83 said:

@owie: Pretty awesome stuff! Thanks for making this sweet thread. She also cut a bullet in half with her fight with Black Widow for speed.

Thanks, and good point...I hadn't originally posted that fight since I think Elektra really ought to be able to beat her, not just stalemate her. I think Black Widow gets underestimated on the Vine, but I think Elektra is more skilled. Although at the same time I suppose Black Widow's SSS enhancement's ought to give her speed around Elektra's levels. Anyway, yeah, bullet-cutting!:

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I agree. I always saw Elektra as more skilled. I mean,I guess Black Widow's russian SSS would allow her to hang,but I honestly think that Elektra should have won. Then again,for the past few years,Black Widow has held her own against skilled fighters. Recently she went up against Lady Bullseye IIRC.

Anyway,I know Elektra has many more bullet cutting feats and whatnot. I might search later. There's a CAV of her with @lvenger currently.

I'm in agreement with you two here. Elektra should have eventually taken the win due to vastly superior skill though I can understand why Black Widow's stats gave her the win. Actually, if I recall correctly, Black Widow had trouble against Lady Bullseye in Secret Avengers whereas Elektra managed to beat her and stated that she was one of the fighters in the world capable of beating Lady Bullseye. I mention that in my Elektra vs Shang-Chi CAV. Thanks for spreading the word of it Cameron, I appreciate it. I was going to call Owie for votes anyway though seeing how he's an Elektra expert.

Anytime :)

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#10 Posted by deactivated-097092725 (10555 posts) - - Show Bio

This is one of the prettiest threads I have ever seen. Lovely display of Elektra feats.

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This is one of the prettiest threads I have ever seen. Lovely display of Elektra feats.

Well thank you very much!

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#12 Edited by Keenko (5187 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie: Great job on this thread. However I just want to point out that it's noteworthy that Frank had literally fought and beaten Ghost Rider that day so was not in his best condition. [I also think he'd beaten Deadpool that day/week too.]

Plus, Frank dropped the gun because he has romantic feelings for her, not because he 'knows that he has no chance.'

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@owie: Great job on this thread. However I just want to point out that it's noteworthy that Frank had literally fought and beaten Ghost Rider that day so was not in his best condition. [I also think he'd beaten Deadpool that day/week too.]

Plus, Frank dropped the gun because he has romantic feelings for her, not because he 'knows that he has no chance.'

True, in regards to his condition. And those are impressive wins. (I haven't read them directly but read about them in the inside cover.) Although his results in the present-day fight seem pretty similar to his results in the previous sparring match, so I'm not sure his condition would make a big difference.

I guess the reason he dropped the gun is up to subjective reading by each viewer. But I do read it as, he realized he couldn't win. Elektra says, "I like you too much to kill you, unless you leave me no choice. So go ahead. Try not to leave me any choice. See what happens to you." Then he looks like he's thinking and judging the situation, and drops the gun. Then she says "Good, I really didn't want to have to kill you."

Which to me means, he had to decide if he was really going to make a move to kill her, knowing (as he said or implied multiple times already) that he can't beat her, and that if he tries to do so, she'll kill him. So he puts the gun down. The fact that he has feelings for her comes across, but the dialog makes me think that he stopped because he knew that if he didn't leave her any choice, he knew what "would happen to him."

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#14 Posted by Keenko (5187 posts) - - Show Bio

@owie: Well, in almost every confrontation, they've been sparring/fighting h2h and I think anyone will agree that Elektra would beat Frank handily but I don't know about if Frank was fully armed and not exhausted. Either way, I don't wanna turn this into a Punisher vs Elektra thread, hahah. It's still a good showing for both of them imo.

I see where you're coming from, but Frank isn't really scared to die. He's not the type to give up just because he realizes that someone could kill him, I think it's because he realized that fighting her was pointless because she wanted to be with him more than be a Thunderbolt. Either way, it is really subjective.

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#15 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

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@owie: Well, in almost every confrontation, they've been sparring/fighting h2h and I think anyone will agree that Elektra would beat Frank handily but I don't know about if Frank was fully armed and not exhausted. Either way, I don't wanna turn this into a Punisher vs Elektra thread, hahah. It's still a good showing for both of them imo.

I see where you're coming from, but Frank isn't really scared to die. He's not the type to give up just because he realizes that someone could kill him, I think it's because he realized that fighting her was pointless because she wanted to be with him more than be a Thunderbolt. Either way, it is really subjective.

Yeah, I understand what you mean. From my perspective I don't think he was scared to die, he just didn't think he could accomplish his objective. But yeah, subjective.

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#16 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Elektra is now hunted down by the Assassins Guild, and in a flashback we see that she has beaten everyone who has come after her, including Blizzard, Crossbones, Shocker, Boomerang, Whiplash, Tiger Shark, Jack O'Lantern, Blackout, and Whirlwind. She even comments that these guys were all basically unworthy opponents. Now some of them are not necessarily top-level dudes, like Blizzard. But Crossbones, Jack O'Lantern, and Blackout are pretty serious. And Tiger Shark? He's nearly Namor level in strength and durability! Now we have no idea how she won these, but still, it's a pretty impressive set of battles, whatever happened.

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Next she is attacked by four members of the Serpent Society: Sidewinder, Black Mamba, Anaconda, and Death Adder. She defeats them all, with some slight help from her friend Matchmaker. The Serpent Society are often seen as kind of silly due to their snake theme, but they have some serious powers. Anaconda is strong enough to hold the Thing; Black Mamba has a telepathically-seductive darkforce control, Death Adder is superhumanly fast and strong and has a poisoned tail; Sidewinder can teleport and here has a poisoned kama.

She breaks Sidewinder's jaw. Then when Mamba tries to delude her mind with her special kind of darkforce, Elektra ignores the telepathic control, saying that "no one can infiltrate my mind...when I am prepared." She clearly still retains some of her chi skills. She bites off Mamba's nose and tells Matchmaker to use her gas grenades, which drives off Anaconda. Then Elektra beats down Death Adder pretty hard without getting hit once herself. She smacks Sidewinder around some more and crushes his leg (sucks to be Sidewinder!), then when Anaconda comes back she stabs her with Sidewinder's poisoned kama. Matchmaker then knocks out Black Mamba with a punch.

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So overall, we got a new long list of metahumans Elektra has taken out.

EDIT NOV. 11

OK, I posted too many in a row so I can't add a new post, I have to add on to this one.

Elektra is now confronted by Lady Bullseye, with a new power: she can turn her body into gas, so how can she be defeated? Elektra has a hard time, but fights really smart--and tough. After figuring out her power, she lets LB stab her in the gut with a sword, "twisting just in time to keep her from hitting anything vital." This is seriously hard core. LB's got a pretty giant sword, any stab in the gut is going to be a major injury no matter what, and Elektra just takes it. And for the rest of the issue, we don't even see that it's affected her at all.

Then, she inhales part of Lady Bullseye's face. Again, smart and hard core--I mean how disgusting is that? Then LB switches back to solid form and Elektra finishes her off. A really great win over a highly skilled and now metahuman opponent.

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Then she goes off to track down the Guild of Assassins. First she confronts some of their flunkies that she already beat (above). But now they've been enhanced too: Tiger Shark has a shark head, Jack O'Lantern is covered in fire, and Whiplash has 4 arms and a whip in each arm.

She takes them all out with style and speed. Now granted she's wearing some of Cape Crow's armor here, so she's better protected than her normal skimpy loincloth suit. But she deflects Jack's pumpkin onto Tiger Shark's face, jumps over Whiplash and stabs him in the back, jumps into the flame-covered Jack O'Lantern and punches him in the face hard enough to take him out, then stabs the highly durable Tiger Shark in his electrically-sensitive Ampullae of Lorenzini with her electrically-charged sai (which make their appearance here again after she previously used them on Cape Crow; she has clearly upgraded her tech). So again a very smart, tactical fight, in which she takes out classic Spider-Man, Iron Man, and Namor villains pretty much one-shot apiece.

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How easily did she beat them? Let's let this guy describe it. He's a member of the Guild and is reporting to one of his bosses:

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"Tiger Shark, Whiplash, and Jack O'Lantern dropped like prom dresses.

Their new abilities didn't matter a lick."

Then Elektra shows up and mercilessly takes out that guy, and his bosses in the Guild of Assassins. Bang, bang, bang, one shot each for these guys too. Now these guys are nobodies, I'm not claiming this takes skill. Just a nice example of Elektra's cold-bloodedness and efficiency.

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Finally she gets Sidewinder to beg for mercy. Again, just a nice example of her making supervillains quake in their boots. BTW he's talking funny because she broke his jaw earlier.

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#17 Posted by TheDandyMan (5175 posts) - - Show Bio

Top-notch stuff, this thread looks like it's taken a fair amount of time to write up so well done.

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#18 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

@thedandyman said:

Top-notch stuff, this thread looks like it's taken a fair amount of time to write up so well done.

Thanks...and thanks for bumping this so I didn't have to keep re-editing the last post to add new content! :)

Unfortunately, from this point on, I'll be following CV's new "only 3 pages of scans from a issue plus however many single panels you want" rule, which will alter how I do this. But, here goes. In the newest installment, Elektra invades a top-level SHIELD facility, which we see here in a single panel :)

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It's called Mercury Drop, and clearly it's a highly technologically advanced object that, as the following pages explain, moves around from place to place to avoid infiltration. Nonetheless, Elektra climbs in and takes out the first group of SHIELD agents...with paintball guns! Also, I'm "Elektra, you morons!" Then, she goes on a tear and takes out a bunch in H2H. Seriously, how rad is the art, and how rad is it that she's uses the paintball guns? (Rad enough for me to go back several decades and use the word "rad," I guess.) Anyway here's my 3 pages:

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There's a lot of craziness that follows, including her doing some sharpshooting with an energy rifle while flying around with a jetpack, and fighting a horde of magically-flying Hand ninjas, followed up by the appearance of a dragon. The part I liked best of it though was this scene, in which Maria Hill surrounds her in mid air with a bunch of flying Mandroid-like exo-suits. Maria says Elektra is outgunned and there's no way out--that is, without her becoming a bad guy. I like this because the implicit point is that Hill knows that Elektra could in fact beat them all, but she would have to use lethal means to do so, and she has avoided doing that so far (thus the paintball guns). Of course, this uses a very relativistic morality, since Elektra has killed way more than her fair of SHIELD agents in the past, so it's kind of like, "you're only a bad guy if you kill some more of my agents TODAY." But, what's a little moral relativism among friends?

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Unfortunately, with this issue it was announced that Elektra will be cancelled after a few more issues, so we won't be getting so much Elektra awesomeness on a regular basis after this series ends. But, I'll continue to keep an eye out for her appearances where ever she shows up for the purposes of this thread.

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#19 Edited by deactivated-097092725 (10555 posts) - - Show Bio

Catching up with this thread was a late night treat. I think I'll pick up Thunderbolts, especially since they cleared up that whole mess with Elektra "failing" to kill her brother. What she shared with Frank made total sense. Also, having that mob boss' heart bronzed to commemorate the first time they met just about floored me. It's almost enough to have me forgive Marvel for putting these two together in the first place. Almost.

Just wanted to let you know the time and effort you put into this thread is still appreciated. You do our girl proud. Her series is ending, but at least I can come in here and bask in the amazingness that is Elektra.

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#20 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

@ms-lola said:

Catching up with this thread was a late night treat. I think I'll pick up Thunderbolts, especially since they cleared up that whole mess with Elektra "failing" to kill her brother. What she shared with Frank made total sense. Also, having that mob boss' heart bronzed to commemorate the first time they met just about floored me. It's almost enough to have me forgive Marvel for putting these two together in the first place. Almost.

Just wanted to let you know the time and effort you put into this thread is still appreciated. You do our girl proud. Her series is ending, but at least I can come in here and bask in the amazingness that is Elektra.

Thanks very much once again. It is nice to know that people have been enjoying the thread.

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#21 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

In issue 9, Elektra searches out Bullseye, and ends up freeing the abovementioned dragon from magical control by the Hand. It joins her in demolishing a bunch of Hand who are trying to resurrect Bullseye, including two special ninjas, one a "son of Death" and one a sorcerer. She takes them out, hard core!

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Lots of other cool stuff in the issue to enjoy besides the battles, check it out.

Issue 10 didn't have much in the way of fighting feats, although it did include her taking a telepathic tour of Bullseye's mind (using someone else's telepathy), and she beat up a bunch of trained evil monkeys!

But moving on to issue 11, the final issue of this volume of Elektra, she faces Bullseye once again. Except this time, he has been enhanced by the Hand’s resurrection.

Here’s the whole lengthy sequence, which I’ll break down by section afterwards:

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First off, this contains a wonderful little scene for those of us who are tired of having to defend Elektra against people who don’t know anything about her other than that she was killed by Bullseye decades ago. Bullseye admits straight up that she’s better than him. Normally I minimize the pics in this thread, or put them under spoilers, but here, let's look at the full glory!

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This may be a little out of character for him to admit, since he’s so arrogant, but take into account that right after this he points out that he’s been enhanced and thinks he can finally beat her again. So it’s sort of a humblebrag.

And he does beat her down. As she says in the narration, and in this later scene, she’s blind in one eye, with a brain hemorrhage, and has a skull that’s broken so badly that she needs major reconstruction. So she’s pretty badly hurt. Things look bad.

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But, in what quite frankly is a completely unexplained act of apparently pure willpower and amazing recuperation, but fits in line with her recent incredible damage soak (like when she tanked Lady Bullseye’s sword in her gut), she gets right the hell up and starts blitzing Bullseye and the Hand ninjas that came along with him, including their two leaders who claim to be the sons of Death and have magical powers.

After killing the black “death” ninja, she jams his skull into Bullseye’s face, making them “kiss,” thus sucking all of Bullseye’s enhancements away and more, leaving him shriveled up and weak. Bullseye leaves, saying he knows when he’s “flying too close to the sun.”

So overall, we have some great stuff here:

--Bullseye admits that “You were always better than me, Elektra. Me in my prime, you in yours? You’d beat me, every day of the week and twice on Sunday.”

--After she is beaten down by an enhanced Bullseye and receiving major trauma that should render her totally incapable of fighting, she gets right the hell back up as if she wasn’t even hurt, thus displaying more of her insane pain resistance and damage soak.

--In the end she beats Bullseye once again as well as all her other foes--and gets the leader of the League of Assassins to make her their new leader (although later in the issue she says her goal is to destroy them, not lead them).

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#22 Posted by Bumparoo (7 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumparoo!

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#23 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

I’ve been reading through older issues of Elektra, trying to avoid relying on other people’s scans. I’m going to present some of those story arcs here. Much of this is also on the Killer Movies respect thread, but I want to expand and comment on them from my own perspective. In some of them, I'm adding an extra scan or two for context beyond what I've seen before.

DAREDEVIL 174

First, in Daredevil 174 (which is part of her original arc), he first starts coming into contact with her and the Hand in a couple scenes that show off her stealth.

The Hand ambushes Murdock in his apartment in what I believe is the first time they meet. In a testament to their stealth, Murdock can hear their heartbeat but not their breathing, and doesn’t pick them up on radar sense right away. He fights and defeats them. Meanwhile, Elektra also breaks in and kills a Hand ninja waiting in another room nearby—but Daredevil doesn’t pick her up with any of his normal senses or with his radar sense; he has no idea that she’s there until he finds the dead ninja. Granted that he was busy fighting, but this is good early support for her later claims/feats of getting past his radar sense.

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Later on, he’s caught in an explosion and temporarily loses his radar sense. He soon joins a fight that Elektra and Gladiator are in against the Hand. But he still can’t quite pick her up. He hears a female voice but can’t recognize it, and seems to never figure out where she is, even though she’s right there. At one point he thinks he hears a heart beat, but then thinks “no, it’s gone…I must have imagined it.” Again, he has a hard time picking her up through his enhanced senses—even though he’s using them with maximum sensitivity so he can pick up the movement of air caused by the Hands’ swords, etc.

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THE RETRAINING OF WOLVERINE

After Wolverine lost his adamantium, he went into a feral state. Stick asked Elektra to help him by retraining him. This is mostly around Wolverine 100-106. It has a few interesting scenes of note.

First, before she joins up with Wolverine, she looks in on him during a fight between the X-Men and Ozymandias. At one point, Jean Grey tries to psychically see who she is, but isn't able to. To be fully transparent, Jean points out that Ozymandias is creating a lot of psychic static at the time, but still it's a pretty good feat of psychic shielding.

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Soon after that she kicks some rock creatures that had been causing trouble for several X-Men off a ledge, in a nice striking power feat. They must weight tons.

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After she meets up with Wolverine, she retrains him, helping him find the man underneath the animal. Here are a few random shots of Elektra hitting Wolverine without him being able to hit her back, or jumping right past him. Now granted he is in his feral state here, and not using his skills, but he's still fast with good instincts.

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This is his final training moment where he has to prove himself, and does. Both come off well here--she shows that she knew that he was trying to game the ostensible goal of the session.

Later, they show how much they have come to respect each other, with Wolverine taking Elektra to his annual pilgimage to Silver Fox's grave, and Elektra taking Wolverine to her home, which no one has been to before. I'm showing a few selected shots from this scene just to point out how well Wolverine has come to know and respect her, which comes into play later on in the Enemy of the State storyline.

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ENEMY OF THE STATE

Moving into recent years, we have Wolverine: Enemy of the State and Agent of SHIELD. (Wolverine #20-31). This is well-worn territory, but I want to get into some details.

The backstory is that Wolverine has been captured, killed, and resurrected by the Hand, then brainwashed by Hydra. He engages in a worldwide series of terrorist attacks, and is very effective. He undergoes a continual battle between his normal personality and his brainwashed personality, but the brainwashed personality is easily dominant and eventually allows him to have pretty effective attacks on the Fantastic Four and X-men among others.

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First, however, Hydra plants him in such a way that SHIELD finds him hurt and brings him to a ship to heal, not knowing he’s brainwashed. He gets up and starts killing people. Elektra, who is now employed as a freelancer by SHIELD, is on the same ship, and they fight.

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The fight starts with both of them being aware of the other’s presence, and seemingly looking forward to the contest. Wolverine gets in a scrum of SHIELD agents, and Elektra waits on the side for the proper moment to strike. She does, and paralyzes him.

After an explosion that he set earlier rocks the boat, he breaks her sai with his claws, but she stabs him immediately with the remains, creating what he says is a pretty bad wound. He also notes, “Man, she’s fast,” a worthwhile comment from someone who is usually considered to have meta stats himself.

While he’s dealing with the neck wound, she says, “Tried to be nice, but you had to be stupid, Wolverine.” This implies that she is confident of winning, and that she has the upper hand at this point. She doesn’t feel outclassed, and a warrior of her caliber ought to know if she was.

He seems to agree: “Another two seconds and I’m…” While the sentence isn’t finished, he presumably means “I’m done for,” since he’s still on the ground trying to pull the sai out, and in a vulnerable state.

However, a second explosion rocks the boat, and water rushes in to the passage. The water power is immensely strong: Wolverine calls them “hundred mile an hour waves” that will kill everyone else. Yet she manages in a great strength feat to pull herself back to safety through the rushing water. In fact, she is chasing him, and he’s the one who is running: after remarking on how she always manages to escape death, he says “Hope it slows her down and gives me a head start at least.”

Main takeaways:

  • Wolverine is brainwashed, but as seen in later issues, he’s still pretty effective—effective enough to put the entire intelligence and hero community on red alert.
  • Both combatants are raring to go, and I would say that both seem to feel that Elektra has the upper hand for much of it.
  • Elektra has a solid strength feat fighting back against the strong current.
  • Elektra also has two very effective strikes against Wolverine considering his healing factor and skill: the first a paralyzing nerve strike, the second a neck wound damaging enough to temporarily incapacitate him.
  • Wolverine comments on her speed.

Smarty Pants

This next part is just a shot of her reading James Joyce’s very challenging modernist novel, Ulysses, during a SHIELD briefing. She’s smart enough to simultaneously comprehend one of the most complicated books of the 20th century and an intelligence briefing.

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Fighting the Hand in the Snow

Elektra is now being paid $400,000 a day by SHIELD for her freelancing, including hunting down Wolverine, who has been free for 5 weeks.

She decides to go out into a snowstorm in her underwear for a little run around the city, and runs into a pack of 15 or so Hand ninjas. They remark on her scanty attire in the weather, which doesn’t slow her down a bit. She takes them out easily, first by throwing shards of ice, then breaking a metal pipe off the roof, then using it and a sword she takes from one of them as a weapon, showing that she can fight ambidextrously with weapons of very different weight and style. At one point she impales two of them with the pipe at once.

At the end, she says she had three “perfect ideas” for catching Wolverine during the fight, showing that she can simultaneously fight and devise with strategies that SHIELD hasn’t come up with in 5 weeks. (One of these strategies is later implemented.)

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Main Takeaways:

  • Endurance: fighting barefoot and in her underwear in a snowstorm
  • Making make-shift weapons (ice shards)
  • Strength and striking: breaking the pipe, shoving it through two guys
  • Respect from the intelligence community: sky-high fees
  • Strategic abilities as seen in plans for Wolverine

A Big-Name Partner

Later on, we discover that Wolverine and Gorgon, the top-tier villain who’s behind all this, want a new “big-name” partner to help Wolverine with his terrorist attacks. They plan to kill, resurrect, and brainwash this new person. We are tricked into believing that this new intended new partner is Daredevil, but it is really Elektra.

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Wolverine stages an attack on Daredevil to get Elektra’s attention, and it works. She is waiting for him and shoots at Wolverine with a sniper rifle from a distance. She misses, however, because Gorgon sneaks up and cuts off her rifle barrel. This isn’t a poor showing for Elektra: Gorgon was also able to sneak up on Wolverine. He is a ninja with superhuman stats, has an incredible healing factor, can telepathically read people’s plans so he can counter them, is an intellectual genius, and also turn people to stone if they look into his eyes. He’s the one who killed Wolverine so they could brainwash him.

Gorgon clearly respects Elektra. He starts by saying what a good shot she is: she hasn’t missed in 5 years. He says it's a pleasure to make her acquaintance, and throws her a sword, clearly thinking it would be a worthwhile fight. While fighting he says “Nice. Even better than expected.”

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Eventually he gets more serious and takes her down, and he is too fast/skilled for her to respond. It should be noted though that it takes 11 strikes to take her down, far more than most people, a testament to her durability.

While her fight/loss with Gorgon has some good points, what I am most interested in is Gorgon/Wolverine’s overall strategic goal. They want a partner for Wolverine, and they intentionally choose Elektra over any else they could choose, including Daredevil. They think she will be more useful than DD is. This is made clear in panels like this, where Wolverine says DD was just the bait:

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… and later when the Hydra leaders are meeting and they say they “got who they wanted.”

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In fact, when Wolverine is later captured and un-brainwashed, the very knowledgeable Hydra leader Elsbeth Von Strucker supportively tells Gorgon that they lost Wolverine but gained Elektra, as if that was actually a better trade-off.

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This shows an impressive degree of respect from both Gorgon and Wolverine, who are both top-level combatants and insurgents, as well as Elsbeth Von Strucker, who has been supporting various evil deeds for over a hundred years, for Elektra in comparison with other possible streetlevelers. I’d also like to point out that they don’t choose her because she’s more amenable to killing than, say, Captain America—whoever they brainwashed would turn into a killer, so they’re choosing her for her skills, not her morals.

Overall takeaways:

  • Gorgon, Wolverine, and Hydra choose Elektra to be Wolverine’s new partner over all other candidates, including Daredevil
  • Elektra is a great shot and hasn’t missed in 5 years
  • Gorgon respects her enough to want to take the time to fight her
  • It takes 11 hits to take her down

Undercover Soldier of Hydra

After Elektra is captured by Gorgon, she is killed, resurrected, and brainwashed just like Wolverine was. However, she is able to shake off their brainwashing, due to her previous experience being resurrected by the Hand, and probably due to her chi/psychic abilities. She then works undercover for SHIELD, pretending to still be brainwashed, and gathering intelligence on the Hand/Hydra/Gorgon. [See the next sections for scans showing that she shook off the brainwashing.]

While pretending to be brainwashed, she captures/kills at least 24 supervillains in 24 hours along with a squad of Hand.

She also captures the dead body of Northstar from under the noses of Iceman, Dani Moonstar, and Polaris, blitzing them and teleporting away with the body so quickly that Polaris responds, “What the hell was that?”

She and Northstar then lead an army of supervillains in an attack on a SHIELD helicarrier, the Blackhawk. Despite the presence of Nick Fury and the now-good-again Wolverine, Elektra and the villains successfully crash the helicarrier, killing hundreds of SHIELD agents.

All these scenes are put together here.

Takeaways:

  • Capturing/killing a large number of villains very quickly and efficiently
  • Leading and army to crash a helicarrier

Elektra and Wolverine vs Tons of Hand

Wolverine eventually seeks revenge on the Hand. He plans an attack on them, riding in on a SHIELD-controlled Sentinel.

Before the attack, he learns there are 1800 Hand in the world. As we can see here, an awful lot of them are in the base he attacks.

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The Sentinel clearly kills a very large number of them, as seen here.

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However, as can be seen in the first couple pictures in the full set of scans, there are still MANY of them left alive inside after the Hand destroy the Sentinel.

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Inside, Elektra telepathically reveals that she is now the leader of the Hand, but also that she has been undercover. She and Wolverine then proceed to kill the entire clan of Hand, in a battle that even Wolverine clearly thinks is crazy: “You’re out of your mind! There’s way too many! Out of your damn mind!” She seems to easily hold up her part of the slaughter. It’s unclear how many Hand they kill here, but it must be in the hundreds at least. It should be pointed out that these Hand ninjas were able to destroy a Sentinel--with just their swords--immediately previous to this.

After the fight, Wolverine shows his continued respect for her, saying “I’m in love.”

Wolverine also says right afterward that the total number of people he has killed so far during his revenge spree is actually 5000, a much higher number than the 1800 he said earlier.

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Overall takeaways:

  • Elektra is able to break her Hand brainwashing, something that Wolverine, who also has experience with brainwashing--not to mention a healing factor--could not do.
  • Uses telepathy, or something like it, to talk with Wolverine despite his psychic defenses.
  • Starts a fight that Wolverine thinks is crazy, with both killing an enormous number of Hand

Elektra and Wolverine vs Gorgon

Here’s the fight, in which the now-both-unbrainwashed Wolverine and Elektra attack Gorgon, who pretty much wipes the floor with both of them until Wolverine gets Gorgon to turn himself to stone. Elektra and Wolverine both have a lot of SHIELD tech to help, but it doesn’t really help much. Elektra gets knocked out after her psi-blockers are broken, so he can read her actions ahead of time. At one point later, Gorgon takes her to SHIELD headquarters and they are somehow communicating at the “speed of thought,” which presumably means telepathically—so fast that the SHIELD guards around them seem to be in slow motion. To me, this feat is kind of unclear, but it seems to imply that Elektra is at the least able to have a telepathic conversation at high speeds.

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One of the most notable parts of this fight is that Wolverine (who is well-versed in the world of the ninja, having been trained by Ogun) famously calls Elektra the “world’s greatest ninja” in this sequence. But what I think is more interesting is that then he asks himself, “what chance do YOU have?” In other words, if Gorgon took down Elektra, what chance does Wolverine have to beat him. This implies that Wolverine actually thinks Elektra had a better chance against Gorgon that he does himself.

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After this battle, Elektra disappears, ostensibly to start her own branch of the Hand. However, what actually happens is that Pagon the Skrull abducts her and takes her place. Pagon then takes over the Hand. (I can show scans of this if anyone wants.)

Takeaways:

  • Elektra is chosen by SHIELD/Wolverine to be his partner for this critical mission, out of all the possible candidates they might have considered
  • Wolverine calls Elektra the “world’s greatest ninja” and them compares himself to her: “what chance do YOU have?”
  • Somehow capable of speaking/communicating at the speed of thought. It is fast enough for them to think and act before the guards “register their presence.”
  • Elektra is an important assassin—she’s also being paid by the Vatican!

DARK REIGN

Moving on to Dark Reign: after she escapes from Skrull custody along with all the other captured heroes, she is captured by SHIELD. Note that this is after being tortured by the Skrulls for a very long time.

While being captured, is called “most dangerous assassin on the planet” by Iron Man, who ought to be aware of international assassins in his role as then-Director of SHIELD:

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SHIELD then becomes HAMMER, and is run by Norman Osborn. They further torture her in captivity for a long period of time.

She shows that she is able to heal herself using chi and meditation while being tortured, although they find ways to keep her from fully healing:

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Escaping the Helicarrier

She escapes, first freeing herself by defeating Paladin:

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The she fights her way through a squad of HAMMER agents. This is partly notable due to some dodging and endurance feats. It is important to take into account that her constant torture for (at least) months is a big factor here. She’s beating these guys when she is in really terrible shape.

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Note that they call her an “omega level threat” to the helicarrier.

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Takeaways:

  • Spits a tooth out of her mouth and into Paladin’s throat, temporarily disabling him
  • Rams a blunt pole through Paladin’s body, for a nice striking damage feat
  • Dodges bullets/aim dodging
  • Defeats them despite apparently having her ankle broken in the process.
  • Jumps off helicarrier and catches up to a parachuting HAMMER agent, and takes his parachute in mid-air, letting him fall to his death.

Revenge of the SHIELD Agents

After the scene with the Night Nurse which I included in a post way up above in the OP, two former SHIELD agents who were on the crashed Blackhawk helicarrier attack: one in person, one is a sniper.

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Machine gun dodging details (these are two separate incidents within the same scene):

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And throwing the sai into the gun:

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There is a particular sequence here that I would like to get people’s input on. It’s confusingly drawn. The only way I can interpret is that Elektra throws a sai out the window, above the SHIELD agents’ head. Then (I think), she throws something else at the sai, to deflect it and make it fall down and strike the SHIELD agent. If that's what’s going on, it’s a cool aiming feat. Or it may be that the SHIELD girl shoots the sai, which makes it fall on herself, which is just lame of the girl.

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Takeaways:

  • Dodges bullets from machine gun (close up) and sniper rifle (long distance).
  • Weird deflecting sai thing
  • Throws sai into gun barrel (a feat she has done multiple times)

SHADOWLAND

During Shadowland, when Murdock is coming under the Hand’s influence, she has multiple psychic conversations with ninja master Izo. She has two of these in the middle of combat, which distracts her from the fights she’s in, but she is still able to win them:

Fighting mobsters while having a psychic conversation

Fighting Hand while having a psychic conversation (this scene starts just after she stops talking with Izo; they catch her while she's distracted, then she starts paying attention again)

Some details from those scans:

Pressure point
Pressure point
Pressure point
Pressure point
Aiming tactically
Aiming tactically
Punches through guy and wall
Punches through guy and wall

Takeaways:

  • Kills mobsters and then later the Hand while in psychic conversations
  • Uses pressure points on the one mobster’s face in the middle of multiple-opponent combat, and also on a CIA agent.
  • Punches through a guy and the wall (something she has done several times)
  • Fights tactically: she aims at important points like the Hand’s hand that is holding the sword.

One of the Elektra/DD fights was actually Pagon/DD

I realized that one of the only recent fights between Elektra and Daredevil, the one where she gets him in a chokehold so he watches what’s on TV, is from the Murdock Papers storyline. This means that it isn’t Elektra after all, it’s Pagon the Skrull fighting Daredevil. So this fight is no longer valid for (or against) Elektra. This is the one I’m talking about:

Scans

That’s the end of the old stuff for now. Remember to check the post above for the final issue of her current series!

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#24 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm going to switch gears here and give a description of Elektra's MOVIE feats. I'm sure you can find videos out there if you want, I don't know how to do DVD ripping, so this will be imageless. I will start with the Daredevil movie, then discuss the Elektra movie, and sum up.

DAREDEVIL MOVIE

Physical abilities

Daredevil, Bullseye, and Elektra, while all human, all show superhuman feats of leaping, agility, and durability. For instance, DD is shown jumping perhaps 20 stories down a building onto a window washing ledge, or fighting after being hit in the throat by a dish thrown by Bullseye, which would surely be lethal.

Given that Elektra is shown to be able to keep up with DD in two fights, she clearly possesses these same basic characteristics. In particular, she is shown being able to flip around on, and fight while balanced on two see-saws simultaneously. She is also shown to jump from one building's rooftop to another three times during the final battle, distances that are clearly beyond normal human jumping distances.

Fighting Prowess

She says that her father had her train with a different sensei every year since she was five years old.

She spars with Murdock in a playground. It is more or less even throughout. He probably gets the upper hand more often, but also notes that she's holding back and asks her not to. The match ends with her winning, with her foot at his throat.

She has a fancy training session where she slashes a bunch of randomly-falling sandbags, but while cool it probably doesn't show any specific noteworthy feats.

In probably her best fight scene, she fights Daredevil. Here, she's bloodlusted, believing that he killed her father. DD is only trying to protect himself and not fighting offensively. They fight reasonably evenly, until she clearly wins by stabbing him through the chest with her sai. Although DD is only fighting defensively, I would note that no matter how much he loves her, he would obviously have avoided letting himself get stabbed in the chest if he could have.

She then fights Bullseye. She throws her sai at him, but he catches it and throws it back. When she tries to catch it, it stabs her in the hand. He then defeats her in H2H in a reasonably short fight unfortunately, and kills her.

Summary of Daredevil movie feats

She shows superhuman jumping and agility, and wins her two fights with Daredevil, with the caveats that the first one was sparring, and DD was only defending himself in the second one.

I would note that she must be resurrected by Stick (as described in the Elektra movie) pretty quickly, since she leaves a braille necklace for Matt soon after her death.

ELEKTRA MOVIE

Elektra is resurrected by Stick and continues her training under him. She also learns some mystic/psychic powers.

Psychic powers:

Elektra learns a special mystic martial arts mental power called Kimagure. This can be used for various things, including telepathy/astral projection, precognition, clairvoyance, resurrection of the dead, and something along the lines of mind-clouding. Here are her specific feats with it:

Mind-clouding/super-speed: On at least three occasions, Elektra is talking with someone, then speeds around to the other side of them without them seeing her move. This is similar to various disappearing acts/speed feats she has had in the comics. It is unclear whether this ability is due to super-speed or temporarily making herself invisible to someone/putting their mind on pause/mind-clouding. I lean toward mind clouding, with some speed mixed in. Instances: (1) Elektra is talking with Abby, who turns to walk away and finds Elektra on the other side of her, maybe 5' from her original position.. (2) Mark is walking towards her. She is sitting on a high stump. She suddenly is standing on the other side of him, perhaps 10' from her original position. (3) She is talking with Mark on a porch. He turns away for a split second while she is talking, and she is gone when he looks back. (4) Some Hand ninjas use the same power: they are walking behind her on a path, then disappear when walking past her. She seems aware of what they have done. It is because of this instance that I tend to see it as a psychic feat, which she is capable of seeing through in others.

Clairvoyance: She sees others at a distance from her on several occasions, including: (1) "sees" the Hand outside McCabe's farmhouse (2) "sees" Tattoo's location during the final battle and finds her way towards him (3) "sees" Typhoid in the maze during the final battle, and uses the clairvoyance to accurately target her with a thrown sai, killing her (more on this below).

Telepathy/astral projection: she mentally communicates, using clear conversation, with Kirigi to set up their final battle.

Precognition?: when Kirigi, a speedster, rushes her in his final attack, she knows where to put her sai ahead of time so he runs into it. It's not totally clear that this is a use of precognition, as opposed to skill, but since Kirigi mentions to Abby just beforehand that kimagure helps you learn to predict your enemies' movements, it seems likely.

Resurrection: she resurrects Abby from the dead after she was killed by Typhoid.

She gains these last two powers only at the end of the movie; earlier she says only a master can resurrect the dead. This shows that she has become a kimagure master by the end, after learning self-acceptance.

Strength

In a training sequence, she does several one-armed pull-ups. Also see the hedge row sai sequence under Throwing.

Agility

She is regularly seen jumping around quite a bit, although in a more grounded-universe way than in Daredevil. A couple examples: she jumps up and stabs a ninja that she can't see through a roof. She dodges numerous point-blank shots from another ninja, who is using a gun that propels darts in a gatling-gun-like manner. She throws some throwing darts into a tree across a wide forest clearing, then runs up the vertical tree trunk by using the (very small) darts as steps. When the tree trunk is chopped down and is falling, she runs along the trunk with no balance problems.

Throwing Skill

She throws a sai across a very long room into the back of a guy's chair, killing him.

She throws a utility knife (box cutter) across another wide room (maybe 40'?) at Abby, who is running. She sticks Abby's shirt sleeve to the wall. This is impressive not only due to the weapon, which is hardly balanced for throwing, the distance, and the fact that Abby was running (and that Abby is a Treasure, meaning a prodigy martial artist), but that Abby's shirt was pretty tight, meaning that you'd have to hit the sleeve perfectly to only stab through the material and not her arm.

Using her clairvoyance, she sees Typhoid in the maze. She then throws her sai at her through numerous hedge rows--maybe 20 rows?--killing Tyhpoid. This is impressive for several reasons: hitting a moving target using only her clairvoyance as a guide; throwing the sai at such a distance; and throwing it through all the hedge rows, which it had to break through as it went, showing significant strength as well.

Durability

Typhoid kisses her for a lengthy amount of time to drain her life energy. She does get very sick, but doesn't die, whereas the same amount of time or less killed Abby, and apparently others. Typhoid was able to kill plant material pretty quickly. Overall it seems like Elektra was able to resist Typhoid a little better than average.

Elektra walks through Tattoo's mass of snakes with no difficulty, whereas they were able to drag down Abby.

She is kicked by Kirigi, a speedster, on two occasions, and survives at a better-than-human level: the first time, he kicks so fast/strong that it creates a pulse/ripple effect throughout the room, knocking everything down. She is hurt, but survives. The second time, he kicks her a distance against a well wall, clearly using a super-human striking power, and she manages to get back up again.

Fighting Skill

In the beginning sequence, she is described as killing numerous mercenaries, who are supposed to be the best money can buy, with no problem.

She is also described as being one of Stick's best students, and wipes the floor with the rest of the students with a bo staff.

She beats Abby, a "Treasure" who is supposed to be a once-in-a-generation martial artist and is described as a prodigy from the age of 5, in a sparring match. Granted that Abby is only 13, but she displays a fair amount of skill, doing most of the work in defeating a superhuman guy named Kinkou, doing OK against Kirigi, killing a spirit wolf, and beating up a bunch of Stick's students.

She fights Kirigi twice. The first time, he beats her with the superhuman "pulse" kick described above. Kirigi is a speedster, capable of running at what may be similar to classic Quicksilver levels: he can effectively disappear from one spot and reappear in another, and uses this tactically in his fights. He may also have some low-level telekinetic powers, as he was able to make a bunch of sheets float distractingly in the first fight. The second time, they fight much more evenly, with Elektra generally keeping up with his speedster attacks, although he still has the advantage. He kicks her the second time, but she realizes she needs to save Abby and pulls herself up and attacks again. This time she anticipates his moves and stabs him when he rushes her, killing him in a straight-up encounter.

Summary of Elektra movie

The stuff I was most impressed with was her throwing skill. The utility knife feat and the sai in the hedge rows feat were very impressive. Her agility was good. I wish there was a bit more direct featuring of her fighting skill against other top combatants, but the last fight with Kirigi was pretty legit, given his powers, as was her sparring match with Abby, even if she is a kid. She also clearly learned a lot in terms of kimagure, and with the precognition now in her pocket, it makes her an even more dangerous adversary.

Overall Summary

Between the two movies, Elektra has superhuman feats for leaping, agility, and strength (as seen in throwing the sai). She was able to beat Daredevil twice albeit in somewhat asterisk circumstances, as well as Kirigi and Abby. She had amazing throwing skills and impressive durability. Her powers of precognition and super-speed/mind-clouding are formidable.

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#26 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

MCU Elektra (Netflix Daredevil/Defenders) Respect Post

Updated to include Defenders feats.

First I will list all her main feats, per episode, and then analyze a bit.

DAREDEVIL SEASON 2 EPISODE DESCRIPTIONS

Since much of this involves comparing Elektra to Daredevil, and Daredevil to others, I’ve included feats from most of the characters throughout the show, since this will give context on what is possible for people to do in this show. Summing up the first 4 episodes before Elektra shows up: Daredevil fights Punisher multiple times, resulting what I could call a 2-to-1 win ratio in favor of the Punisher (Punisher wins their first meeting by shooting Matt in the head, and their second meeting by being able to chain Matt to the chimney; Matt then beats him on the rooftop). Daredevil also beats up a very large number of motorcycle gang members in a stairway, and some Irish thugs when rescuing Punisher.

***A word on the number of ninjas Elektra and Daredevil beat: the ninjas are generally all wearing the same clothes, fighting in low-lit shots, and with sometimes highly-edited shots, where a ninja going down in one shot is potentially getting back up again a second later in the next shot—or maybe it’s a different ninja. So it’s usually hard to count exactly ninjas how many a particular character really dropped. I give my best estimates below.****

Episode 4

Elektra breaks into Matt’s apartment. He comes in, drunk and his mind focused on Karen, and doesn’t notice her sitting there in front of him. Regardless of his mental state, this is a pretty good evasion of his senses. She throws a spike at him with no warning, which he just manages to catch.

Episode 5

10 years ago, while they’re in college, Elektra and Matt Murdock friendly-spar evenly in a boxing ring. She does better at first, when Matt isn’t trying; when she gets him to actually try, it’s even. She mentions training in various martial arts disciplines when she was younger.

Episode 6

Elektra and Daredevil each defeat 2 of 4 motorcycle-yakuza in her apartment. Later Elektra and Daredevil fight a few security thugs behind some frosted class in the high-rise, beating them more or less equally (the frosted glass makes it hard to count but I’d guess they both beat 2).

Episode 7

Elektra and Daredevil fight 4 yakuza in the train. Both Elektra and Daredevil avoid being shot at close range. Together they eventually knock them out (2 each? Hard to say, but Matt seems to do slightly better than Elektra). Afterward, Elektra sinks to the ground and says something unintelligible (I played this a million times and can’t figure out what she said; if you know, please tell me). But it seems something like an admission of it being hard. Then several more yakuza show up. This time Elektra and Daredevil seem to fight more equally, but still at the end Elektra is winded and Daredevil is not. She also has two shallow cuts, in the arm and neck. Overall she did well but Matt did better—on the other hand Matt is wearing armor and Elektra is not, which is particularly relevant in the matter of the cuts. Later Daredevil viciously beats up a few guards outside the pit building.

Episode 8

Elektra and Daredevil fight maybe 10 Hand at the giant pit, with Matt and Elektra fighting at even levels until Elektra is about to kill a Hand, and Matt distracts her by yelling “NO,” at which point she is severely injured. At one point Matt dodges several shuriken at once. Stick shows up and helps save the day. As they escape, Matt catches an arrow. Stick shoots several Hand while barely looking from the car. Elektra was poisoned by the stabbing and almost dies, but Stick heals her, and says she has been through worse in the past. Elektra is said to be too sick to stand. Later one Hand shows up, and shoots Matt with an arrow in the upper right chest from behind. Matt beats him after a long fight, dodging multiple shuriken again. At one point Elektra comes out to help but is knocked away due to being so sick. Daredevil beats the Hand but can’t believe he’s so young, so he stops. Elektra has no qualms about this and kills him, and Daredevil passes out from his injury.

Episode 9

Matt wakes up after being unconscious all night. Elektra, despite being so sick, was awake and took care of the Hand’s body with a cleaning crew. Elektra admits to killing someone for the first time when she was 12 years old. Daredevil invades The Farm and off-screen, takes down several guards. He fights Nobu in the blood farm basement, and Nobu beats him decisively. [Now in prison, Punisher attacks the prisoner who runs the prison and his guard, and kills them easily with a shiv. Then when he’s about to leave, he is trapped with 8-10 other prisoners. Several of them are armed, and Punisher is now unarmed. He viciously kills them all, taking one major injury to his arm. Later Fisk fights Punisher and beats him down fairly decisively.]

Episode 10

Fisk grabs Murdock at the jail and bashes his face into the table multiple times. Matt breaks his grip once but then they hold on to each other. Fisk is clearly in control: Matt’s breath is ragged, and when they’re done, Matt slips on the ground while leaving, his legs not fully under his control.At the airport, Chaste member Jacques Duchamp says he knows Elektra has assassinated many people. Elektra fights him fairly evenly, then he pulls out two sai. She gets control of the sai and quickly kills him with them.

Episode 11

Daredevil fights several Hand at the hospital but leaves before beating them all when he jumps out a window to save Claire Temple. The remaining Hand take the patients away. Later Daredevil beats up a few Chinese thugs at Madame Gao’s laundry place. Punisher, now out of jail, brutally kills two mobsters, including pistol whipping a guy’s face into pulp. He is injured. Frank invades a drug ship and kills a few guys. Punisher and Daredevil fight, Daredevil wins pretty decisively, although Punisher is hurt. Elektra stabs Stick’s two main Chaste guys in the back in the car.

Episode 12

Elektra fights Stick; she has the sai; he has a katana, and was waiting for her. At one point it she holds back his sword with her hands, using her gloves directly against the edge of the blade; perhaps her gloves are protective? She then chokes Sticks with a lamp cord and has him at her mercy when Daredevil pulls them apart. Daredevil says she could have killed him. A few Hand attack. Stick, Daredevil, and Elektra all do well against the Hand until the lights are turned out and they take Stick. Flashback: a young Elektra beats 3 Chaste in a no-holding-back sparring. She would have killed one of them if Stick hadn’t stopped her. Then later that Chaste guy attacks her with a knife and she kills him. Back in the present: Daredevil fights 3 Hand in the train tunnels. They leave unbeaten; he had trouble due to their silence. Later he fights a few more when saving Stick. He still has trouble with their silence, but then Stick teaches him to listen for their breath and he beats them. After a confrontation with Nobu, in which all three heroes fight some Hand, Elektra runs off with Stick, sometimes holding him up while beating up Hand at the same time. Alone, Daredevil plows through 3 more Hand in perhaps his easiest stomp of the ninjas in the series, then stomps Nobu, who falls from a great height. However Nobu gets up soon after.

Episode 13

Gladiator gets Elektra an armored costume too, and gives Daredevil an improved club. Daredevil breaks into the Hand’s warehouse HQ and fights maybe 5 Hand, including dodging close quarter machine gun fire, although he gets hit in the shoulder. Then he fights some more Hand. Elektra comes in and helps beat them, then they fight together equally against maybe 6 more and win. Elektra and Daredevil go up the stairs. Camera shots show at least 40 Hand, as I count them, on the roof. When Elektra and Daredevil go out, there’s now really only about 20 lined up on one side based on my count. Elektra and Daredevil run towards them and they both dodge some arrows from 4 Hand archers. But then Nobu shows up with 4 more Hand on the other side of the roof, so Elektra and DD end up not attacking the line of 20 Hand yet. They finally engage after talking with Nobu. In the very first clash, Nobu attacks Elektra and Daredevil. He kicks off Elektra and engages with Daredevil. From this point, Elektra takes on all the Hand and tends to be surrounded by around 6-8 Hand at any one time. (The 4 Hand that were originally standing by Nobu just keep standing there and don’t do anything, so she’s basically fighting the original 20.) Daredevil just focuses on Nobu. Daredevil and Nobu fight more or less evenly with each other, although they spend most of the time missing each other; Daredevil gets in maybe the only 2 hits. Nobu and Daredevil both disarm each other. After finishing off all of the Hand (except Nobu’s 4 guards), Elektra jumps in with Nobu and gets hit twice. She still has one sai. Then Daredevil jumps back in and from then on they both fight Nobu together, pretty evenly. Nobu finally gets a hit in on Daredevil, and both Daredevil and Elektra hit Nobu. Nobu gets knocked down by Daredevil. They threaten each other for a second, then Nobu, Daredevil, and Elektra fight together, with all getting in hits. Elektra drops her sai. Then Nobu changes the tide—he knocks Daredevil down briefly, then gets Elektra on the ground with a hold and injures her arm. Then Nobu kicks Daredevil in the head, stunning him, and then punches Daredevil in the head, hitting him so hard Daredevil flips in the air before dropping to the ground. Both heroes are on the ground. Nobu picks up Elektra’s sai and prepares to stab Daredevil, who is still stunned. Elektra gets in the way and she sacrifices herself for Matt: Nobu stabs her. But before she drops, she backhands Nobu and knocks him down and out. Nobu is knocked out for as long as the time he fell off the railing in Episode 12. Elektra dies. Daredevil goes nuts and starts beating up the remaining 4 Hand and Nobu, who is now back up. Punisher shoots 3 of the 4 Hand from an adjoining rooftop, taking care of them so Daredevil can focus on Nobu. Daredevil beats on Nobu pretty badly. Matt picks up his club, gets its grappling wire around Nobu’s neck, and throws Nobu off the roof. Nobu doesn’t die (he gets up after about the same amount of time as before), but Stick stabs Nobu in the heart and decapitates him, presumably actually killing him.

Below: a pic of the 20 Hand she fights. There's no shot of all 20 totally unobscured by her body, but this is close.

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DAREDEVIL SEASON 2 ANALYSIS

Random Fights

• When she is stabbed by the pit, I don’t think that is a sign of lower skill than Daredevil, since it was Daredevil who distracted her. Without Daredevil’s distraction, she would have killed the guy and been fine.

• Her fights as a child against the Chaste are pretty impressive. The first scene against 3 of them may be sparring, but since she’s said to be killing one of them, and the other two are unable to stop her, she clearly has truly defeated all three of them, not just in a “friendly sparring” kind of way.

• Her fight against the Chaste Duchamp isn’t bad either; he is one of Stick’s top men, chosen by Stick to assassinate her, so presumably Stick thought he was good enough to do the job. The hand to hand part of the fight took a while, but once he pulled out the sai, it was all over quickly.

• Her fight against Stick is very good. Daredevil only beat him in the first season with difficulty, and I would say that Elektra does equally well here, if not better, since the stakes are higher, with both intent on killing the other. Stick believes that if he doesn’t beat her that it could be the end of the world, so he’s got a lot of motivation. She doesn’t fully beat him since Matt stops it, but Matt says she could have killed Stick. This shows she’s at least as good as Season One Daredevil.

The Final Scene

When Elektra takes on the Hand, and Daredevil takes on Nobu, I see this as a signal of the writers’ intent to create an largely equal challenge for both characters. Narratively, they have only one Big Bad, so Daredevil takes on him, and Elektra takes on an overwhelming number of his soldiers to make her fight equally as impressive. Elektra beats about 20 Hand. This is way more Hand than any of the characters beat up to this point: Matt never faced off against more than about 6 or 8 Hand at once. And each time anyone has fought Hand, the Hand have taken a decent amount of time, effort, and work to defeat them. Fights against the Hand range from one of Matt’s high points in the season (at the end of the train tunnels episode), when he ran right through 3 Hand without hardly slowing down, to the fight against the young Hand in his apartment, who fought pretty evenly with him for a lengthy amount of time, and gave him a real challenge, before Matt won.

So taking out 20 on her own is an extremely impressive achievement. She never fights all 20 at the exact same time, there’s usually a smaller group that comes and goes, but it’s still a lot to defeat as a whole. (Matt is focusing on Nobu the whole time, he never gets into fighting the Hand at all.)

This is also a show where fighting “fodder” is often a real accomplishment; for instance, Matt’s fight against the biker gang in the hallway and stairs, and Punisher’s fight against the criminals in jail are big moments showing how good they are. This scene of Elektra shows her quality in the same way, even if it’s not photographed and choreographed with the same level of gruesome detail as the Daredevil/biker and Punisher/criminal fights.

Nobu/Daredevil/Elektra

Earlier in the season, Nobu first beat Daredevil pretty badly, and then Daredevil beat Nobu pretty badly. There wasn’t a lot of difference in context in these fights other than that Daredevil was really angry in the second fight. In the final scene, Nobu gets unanswered hits on Elektra a few times towards the beginning, but once she gets warmed up with him, she does as well as Matt. Matt gets in more total hits to Nobu than Elektra does, but he’s been fighting him for longer. When Nobu finally gets the advantage over them both, he actually hurts Matt more than he does Elektra, injuring her arm but literally knocking Daredevil for a loop. So up to this point in the fight, I’d describe it as Nobu having the advantage over both of them, considering that he is able to ultimately ground both Matt and Elektra.

Basically I’d say all their skill is about the same level, but Nobu’s durability and striking power are better, enabling him to trade blows evenly with either one or both of them, and to absorb their hits, and thus win over time. After being stabbed Elektra has perhaps her best feat, knocking Nobu out in one strike. Even when Matt stomped Nobu in the tunnels, he only won by knocking him off the railing, never (in either season) by actually knocking him out directly. But Elektra KOs him with a backhand. Granted, this comes after Nobu has been hit many times in the fight; but he clearly heals very quickly, and he had rallied to ground both the heroes right before this, so it’s not like he was almost knocked out before she hit him. Matt then reverts to the mental state that he was in in the tunnels, and stomps Nobu—but still only by knocking him off the building again, and not KOing him directly like Elektra.

DAREDEVIL SEASON 2 SUMMARY

Overall, I’d say Elektra is pretty close to Matt’s level (with the exception of his enraged fights, discussed below). She doesn’t have some of his reaction and agility feats (catching arrows, dodging multiple shuriken) or durability feats, but this is perhaps to be expected when he’s the star of the show and has way more screen time, and thus more opportunities to prove himself. She does have decent agility, as seen when she parkours up between the train cars, dodges arrows, and dodges machine gun fire, and decent durability as well, as seen in the many hits she takes from yakuza, Hand, and Nobu—perhaps most especially the hits she took from the Chaste as a kid—usually without much adverse reaction. Holding back Stick’s sword with her hands was also good. Next season will hopefully bring more opportunities for feats in these areas.

Matt also beats up a lot more total Hand, just because he is in more scenes with them. However, when they are shown fighting side-by-side, they tend to do about equally with each other, usually beating around the same number of thugs/yakuza/Hand.

The exception is when Elektra is specifically shown as being somewhat below Matt in the fight in the train, where she has to take a breather at two separate points. It’s odd because they seem to be trying to show her as being somewhat inexperienced in this scene, but on the other hand they soon show her as having a lot of experience training with the Chaste as a child, talk about her history of assassinations, and Stick says she’s been through worse than the deadly poison wound she gets. So I feel like the train scene is a bit contradictory to the overall picture of her past.

The difficulty is in how to square this scene with her other feats which suggest that she is much closer to Daredevil’s level.

I think the difference here comes down to Matt’s gear:his batons and his armor. In the train, Matt has his armor, and Elektra has nothing. Perhaps not surprisingly, Matt does better. Daredevil clearly made a step up in his ability to take punishment when he got the armor at the end of the first season, so the fact that she is mostly able to hang with him for most of the second season when she has no armor is actually a testament to her abilities. On the roof, Elektra now has her sai and armor, bringing her up to Matt’s level of performance. Matt even has his new improved baton in the final scene, helping him get an extra edge—in fact the edge he needs to finally toss Nobu off the roof again. The armor theory even explains why she did equally with Matt before the train as well—when she fought evenly with him in her apartment against the motorcycle ninjas and in the high-rise against the yakuza. In both of those cases Matt was wearing normal clothes, thus taking away the armored edge he had at the train. So when they are both armored, and when they are both unarmored, they have pretty similar performance levels; it’s largely only when Matt is armored and she is not that there’s a noticeable difference, which is perfectly reasonable.

The other major difference is when Matt goes into his full-on rages, as seen twice: in the tunnels and after Elektra is killed. Those times, he’s able to beat Nobu; other times he is not. Otherwise, Elektra seems to be able to stand up to Nobu about as well as Matt can when he’s not in a rage.

When Matt is in the throes of his full-on rage, he goes beyond anything Elektra has been able to do so far. But when she has similar gear, I’d say they’re about the same in fighting ability, with her perhaps just a slight bit below. (Matt is by no means on some perfect unachievable level above her, as seen by his losses to Punisher, and his physical subjugation to Fisk.) Her best feats, in my opinion, are:

• beating 3 Chaste at the age of 12

• getting into a position where she could have killed Stick

• her ability to take down 20 Hand

• her ability to fight more or less at Matt’s level when they simultaneously fought Nobu

• and her ability to knock Nobu out.

DEFENDERS EPISODE DESCRIPTIONS

Again, I am listing everyone's feats from Defenders, for context.

Episode 1

Elektra fights a random Chaste-affiliated guy who knows about the Hand and almost kills him when Danny shows up and knocks her down from behind. She throws a sword and he dodges. She fights Danny equally for a while and fatally stabs the original guy and knocks Danny down, then disappears. Danny gives chase. She attacks from shadows and slashes him in the chest, then he hits her with the Iron Fist. She disappears again.

Colleen later says she moved faster than anyone she’s ever seen, and Danny says “yeah, and she hit like it too.”

Luke breaks some handcuffs.

Episode 2

Daredevil throws something to knock out a street light, then beats up 3(?) street hoods. Then a guy with a shotgun shows up, he throws something else to disarm him then beats him up.

Luke lifts a giant chunk of concrete and dents a beer keg

Elektra cuts through a door’s deadbolt lock, dodges multiple shots from the architect and deflects one with her sword, then blocks a punch from Jessica and hits Jessica through some debris. Jessica gives chase but she disappears.

Colleen beats up two street kids dressed as “cleaners” including one with the pommel of her sword. Danny beats up one.

Danny fights Luke, and does no damage at all. Luke grabs and hits him several times, and dents an electrical box, and finally hits him pretty hard in the face. Danny is stunned somewhat but OK. He does the Iron Fist and hits Luke in the face and knocks him back a decent distance, and he is stunned—but OK.

Episode 3

Flashback:

Elektra is resurrected. She comes out very weak; Alexandra easily defeats her.

She trains, and first has trouble with a guy with a staff when she has two short sticks. Then she beats him.

She fights against 3 guys who have katana-length sticks, and she has two wakizashi-length sticks, and beats them quickly.

She spars against 6 guys in the same way and wins. Then immediately after she fights 10 Hand in the dark. They have swords, she is unarmed, and she beats them fairly quickly and takes two of their swords in the process.

Modern time:

Luke describes Danny’s punch as being like he was hit with a sledgehammer.

Alexandra tells Danny she has known many Iron Fists, the difference between him and them is she won’t kill Danny.

Stick is handcuffed to a post with Elektra holding a sword at his throat and Alexandra at his heart. He headbutts Elektra, takes Alexandra’s sword, fights off one or two other Hand, cuts off his hand to get out of the cuffs. Cuts Elektra, punches back Alexandra and other guys, and escapes.

Danny disarms a woman who had a gun at the back of his head. He beats up about 10 Hand with extendable rods in the board room, then more guards come with dart guns, he dodges some darts. He mostly beats them too, including shooting and using darts by hand, then they mass-grab him and hold him down. He seems unable to summon the Fist. Luke comes in, they fight those guys and more, including Luke smacking guys into the wall hard enough to dent the wall, and blocking bullets to protect Danny. Even more guys come, and now Danny summons the Fist. Jessica and Matt joint them, and Elektra comes out, and more guys.

Matt and Elektra have a very even, lengthy fight. She has a sword and her new suit (which, since it’s a different design from her previous armored suit in Daredevil season 2, I assume means it is not armored), he is unarmed and in clothes. She kicks him through a glass wall. They fight evenly again, he gets in more punches, but she’s using a sword so they really can’t have her hit. She splits her sword in two. She kicks him to put him down. He hesitates, partly because he seems actually exhausted, and partly because he now realizes who she is. She is about to kill him.

Danny stops Elektra by breaking her sword with the Fist, and knocking her through a wall.

The others fight a bunch of dudes for a while. Jessica is doing fine, knocking guys out and not getting hit.

Episode 4

Matt says that Elektra didn’t kill him in the fight in Episode 3 and she had a chance.

Matt says he can’t hear her heart.

Jessica tilts a heavy bureau in front of a door.

Jessica smashes a car window and beats up a Hand with a knife. She does some dodging from the knife strikes.

Alexandra shows up in the restaurant without any of the Defenders, including Stick and Matt, noticing.

Elektra kicks down the door to the restaurant.

Jessica seemingly pushes a car hard through the restaurant wall and knocks Elektra down. She gets up again.

Episode 5

They all fight. Murakami joins in. Alexandra does not fight. Pairings include Murakami vs Matt and Danny, and Jess and Luke vs Elektra. Murakami and Alexandra step aside, and new guys come in with Gao and Sowande and shoot up the place. Defenders hide, Luke takes it. Then most of the Defenders fight random Hand. Matt and Elektra pair off outside, and fight evenly, no weapons. He has her at a disadvantage at one point although she gets out. He’s definitely holding back because of who she is. Murakami knocks down Jess. Murakami comes out and Elektra hits him hard, he goes flying against wall. Luke and Sowande fight. He does much better than Danny did against Luke and seems to give him pain. Luke is hit by a truck and transported away. Gao hits Danny with a chi-enhanced open palm and he’s knocked down.

Jessica tips over a dumpster and pushes it in front of the door, and Gao knocks it away with a chi blast, it goes flying.

Bakuto and Colleen fight, Bakuto stomps her and cuts her. He leaves when Luke and Danny shows up (Luke grabs the sword).

Jessica fights Murakami; he’s winning and about to fatally stab her when Matt shows up. They double team him then Jessica throws him off a balcony and he disappears.

Matt says that Elektra could have killed him both times (Episode 3 and 4).

Sowande gets out of his chair and grabs Iron Fist; Stick decapitates him.

Episode 6

Danny and armored Matt fight evenly. Jessica grabs and flips Danny onto the ground. Danny makes the Fist and punches Luke and the impact knocks back everyone and the furniture—a big blast. Then Jessica knocks Danny out.

Stick knocks out Luke with smoke. Elektra, with two swords, fights Stick who has a sword in his one remaining hand (his left hand; he was shown to be left-handed before) and stabs his leg. Stick gets his sword under her neck at his mercy. She gets up and twice kicks him back to the ground, hard. Danny passes out due to Stick’s smoke. Matt and Jessica show up. Elektra kills Stick.

Elektra knocks out Matt with one kick before he even closes. Jessica and Elektra wrestle over her swords, seemingly showing Elektra being able to equal her muscle power. Jessica punches Elektra multiple times around the head and Elektra ignores it. Elektra punches her a couple times and then kicks Jess into the wall hard, and knocks her out. Luke wakes up and they fight briefly, then Elektra knocks out Luke by a kick to the head.

Murakami plans to kill Alexandra, and thinks he can. Interrupted by Elektra bringing in Danny.

Elektra stabs Alexandra in the back, then cuts her head off, killing her.

Episode 7

Elektra fights Danny, both unarmed. She beats him, face down in a pool of water. He gets up with the Fist, and hits her directly. She flies back and is stunned, but gets back up fairly quickly. They fight again, with her now pulling her sai, and she basically toys with him until she uses the sai to redirect his Fist to hit the wall. He is KOd (by the expenditure, presumably.) Thus she wins tactically and strategically.

Armored Matt, Jessica, and Luke fight Murakami, Bakuto, and Gao. Gao knocks a big palette of cinderblocks towards Jess and Luke with her chi. Luke kicks it back and Gao knocks it apart. Jess and Luke fight Gao. Gao blocks some hits from Luke and also gives him some solid hits. Jess and Luke grab her arms together but she shakes Luke off across a car. She chi-blasts the SUV against Luke hard enough to dent the concrete wall. Jessica hits her at least once with a metal canister. Armored Matt fights Bakuto and Murakami for a long time, evenly. They switch, so Luke fights Murakami (Luke breaks a concrete block with a punch) and Matt fights Bakuto (who at one point cuts a concrete block to pieces with his sword), and Jess continues against Gao, who chi-blasts her against a car too. Gao tries to chi-blast Jessica in the face on the ground, but Jess kicks her off a distance. Colleen shows up and helps Matt against Bakuto. The Hand strikes a fire from a pipe and escape. Luke puts the gas fire out with his hands.

Episode 8

Gao and Danny face off, Gao blasts him back, Murakami grabs his neck from behind.

Colleen fights Bakuto. She does well but they are interrupted several times by guards, Misty, and Claire. Claire takes out a couple guards with a wrench and some difficulty. Bakuto cuts Colleen in the back. Colleen throws a knife into a guard’s chest. Misty shoots him in the chest and he shrugs it off (surprisingly given how Alexandra was killed). He knocks out Misty temporarily. Claire attacks Bakuto with some wrenches and Bakuto gets Claire in submission between swords. Misty stops him and gets her arm cut off. Colleen charges him and cuts his head off, but not really in a “fair fight,” he wasn’t really ready for it I’d say.

Armored Matt, Luke, Danny, Jessica fight a lot of Hand and Murakami and Gao. At one point Danny sweeps Gao. Elektra does not engage. They mix it up in all combinations. Jessica does well vs Hand. Danny temporarily knocks out Murakami. Murakami comes back. Eventually Gao and Danny face off, and this time his Fist knocks her back against her chi blast, and many Hand are also knocked down. Luke fights Murakami who does less well now, and Luke knocks him through a thick pillar. Danny loses his Fist. Eventually it’s only Elektra left. She fights them all, evenly. She does no real damage to Luke (although she uses a garrote against him). Gao hides. Jessica eventually grabs Elektra and throws her hard against a wall and she is KOd.

Danny, Luke, and Jess go up the elevator. Armored Matt and Elektra fight unarmed and argue. Matt doesn’t want to hurt her. She says she does, but doesn’t really. They fight pretty evenly, with both getting the other in situations to their advantage, but Matt having the overall advantage if anything. She gets out her sai and cuts him in stomach. They fight more. He breaks out the clubs and smacks her around the head multiple times quite hard. They fight till they’re on their knees, again though if anything Matt has the advantage. At this point it’s clear that she does not want to kill him either. Eventually they kiss and get caught in the explosion.

Gao finds Murakami who at some point was impaled and incapacitated by a metal rod. The bomb goes off.

DEFENDERS FEATS SUMMARY (each feat followed by episode number)

Speed/agility/blocking:

Colleen says she moved faster than anyone she’s ever seen (1). Dodges shots from the architect, blocks one with sword (2). Blocks punch from Jess (2).

Striking Power:

Danny says she hits harder than anyone he’s ever seen (1). Cuts through deadbolt (2). Hits Jess through some debris (2). Kicks Matt through glass wall (3). Kicks down door to restaurant (4). Hits Murakami so hard he flies against wall (5). Kicks Stick hard twice (6). Knocks out Matt with one kick (6). Wrestles with Jessica over sword (6). Kicks Jess into wall and KOs her (6). Kicks drugged Luke in head and KOs him (6).

Durability:

Hit by the Fist, is OK enough to disappear immediately after (1). Hit by the Fist through a wall and presumably disappears again although they don’t look for her (3). Hit by a car pushed by Jess and is fine after a second (4). Hit by Jessica multiple times and ignores it (6). Hit by the Fist and gets up in a second (7). Jess throws her against a rock wall and she is KOd (8). Her last fight with Matt includes some serious head shots with his clubs that leaves them both very beat up (8).

Fights:

Kills a random Chaste-affiliated guy (1). Fights Danny to a draw until he uses the Fist; she is armed (1). Beats up Jess (2). In flashback, quickly kills 10 armed Hand in the dark, while unarmed herself. Fights Matt fairly evenly when she is armed and he isn’t and eventually gets the advantage; as Matt says in 4 and 5, she could have killed him (3). Quick loss/retreat when Danny unexpectedly interrupts with Fist (3). Briefly fights Jess and Luke (5). Fights Matt fairly evenly but he’s holding back, he later says she could have killed him (5). One-shots a surprised Murakami (5). Stabs Stick, Stick gets the advantage on her, then she beats and kills him (6). Beats Matt, Jess, and Luke one after the other (6). Beats Danny without the Fist while she is unarmed (7). Beats Danny with the Fist while she is armed (7). Fights Luke, Jess, Danny, and armored Matt at once, evenly, until beaten by Jess (8). Fights evenly with armored Matt while they both are both unarmed and then armed (8).

Stealth:

Disappears into shadows twice in tunnel with Danny (1). Disappears in Jessica’s stairway (2). Matt can’’t hear her heart (4).

DEFENDERS COMMENTARY

The Black Sky version of Elektra, and the Defenders in general, seem inconsistent to me in their performance.

For instance, in the garage in episode 7, we go from Matt, on his own, fighting evenly against both Bakuto and Murakami, to then both Matt and Colleen together fighting evenly against just Bakuto on his own.

With Elektra, she goes from being able to defeat all the Defenders one-on-one (episode 6 for Matt, Luke, and Jessica, and episode 7 for Danny), and then fighting equally against all the Defenders at once (episode 8), to then fighting equally with just Matt by himself, and if anything being on the losing side against him. Possible explanations—she was hit pretty hard by Jessica, and had tired herself out fighting them all—but on the other hand Matt had also fought a lot, and got cut in stomach. However, this (and the fight against all of them immediately previous) is her only fight with Matt when he was armored, so perhaps that made a difference as it seemed to in Daredevil season 2. Or, perhaps the Black Sky's power was lessening once she was turning to good? Also, while Matt made a point of saying she could have killed him in their two previous fights, they seemed to be pretty close to me, and he was definitely holding back in the second, so this third equal fight in episode 8 is basically par for the course with him. So how to explain her one-shotting him in episode 6, and also being able to fight them all at once in 8? It seems just inconsistent.

HOWEVER, we do have some consistencies. Her durability is very solid. While she was knocked out by Jessica once when thrown at a rock wall, she also completely tanked multiple shots from the superhuman Jessica earlier, and she was hit by the Iron Fist three times. The first two times we don't see her immediately after but she basically left after finishing the job. The third time her reaction to it wasn't any worse than that of Luke Cage when he was hit in episode 2, so presumably that was her reaction earlier as well. As we saw, the Iron Fist was capable of massive kinetic bursts knocking back furniture and numerous people besides the target, so this is darn good durability for her.

She is also pretty fast, as noted by Colleen in episode 1, and her ability to deflect a bullet with her sword.

She has very good striking power, as noted by Danny in episode 1, and her hits (especially kicks) that regularly sent people flying back against a wall, including Murakami, Matt, Stick, and Jessica. She also seemed to be able briefly grapple equally with the superhuman Jessica over her swords.

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#27 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's kick some more ass! [EDITED to include Agents of SHIELD; edited again to add context scan to 2016 DD vs Elektra fight]

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I’m adding a ton of scans here. A lot of these are from her first two volumes, and also from a few other older random mini series and other issues. Most of this, although not all, can be found in the Killer Movies thread that originally inspired me, but I rescanned all of this myself from the originals and am including some context and analysis that adds to them IMHO. I still have some older stuff to get through but this is a pretty giant chunk of what I now have. I am also including her fight with Daredevil in the current Daredevil volume. I’ll address that first, then the older stuff.

The scans are linked to Imgur. I have tended to show full scenes to give as much context as possible, so they are not yet broken up into discrete feat panels. I will add individual panels like this in later to the second cross-referenced section, but right now you’ll just have to look at the whole thing.

AGENTS OF SHIELD, issues 8 and 9 (so far)

Elektra takes over a SHIELD group. Introducing herself, she throws a sai to cut a force field cable at some distance (nice accuracy), then fights some Hulkbuster robots, kicking a crack in one and chopping a crack in another, while also getting them to shoot each other. Deathlok and Mockingbird were previously unable to affect them. To reiterate: she broke HULKBUSTER armor with nothing but her body, twice. Full scans here, followed by excepts below.

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Her team then fights Coulson's team. While a generally unremarkable fight, she does dodge his gunfire from point blank range and then disassembles his pistol with a touch, saying it was one of the first things she learned to do. Full scans here, followed by excerpts below:

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ELEKTRA VS DAREDEVIL, CURRENT DAREDEVIL VOLUME 6 & 7

A very impressive fight. Please check this out.

(FIGHTING SKILL, STRIKING POWER)

Descriptions:

Part 1, Issue 6

Scans. Elektra has been brainwashed by unknown forces into believing that she has a son, and that Daredevil took him. He agrees to meet, not knowing why. [I had the wrong link on here for ages and just fixed it--SORRY!]

She throws some throwing stars, one of which cuts his leg. Then she strikes him in the head, about which he says, “that almost took my damn head off!”

She throws a sai, and he blocks it.

She punches him in the face, knees him in the gut, knees him in the back of the head, and knees him in the face. He’s left on his hands and knees.

She pulls a sai and is about to stab him when an invisible Blindspot stops her. It’s not clear that Daredevil could have stopped her otherwise. She breaks Blindspot’s arm.

DD bullrushes her and says he’s ready to fight. They both attempt to hit, and miss. She flip-throws him off the side of the building. When he swings back up, she throws a sai into his shoulder, which as he says is mostly but not entirely stopped by his armor. She kicks him in the face.

She punches him in the face, then he stops another punch and throws her off.

Total successful strikes/throws so far: Elektra 10, DD 2. (After saying he’s ready to fight: Elektra 4, DD 2 [including his bullrush right before he says he’s ready]).

Part 2, Issue 7

Scans. She throws a sai and he blocks it with his club.

He says he “has to stop this before she kills me,” clearly implying that that’s a possibility—if not a probability. He says he won’t fight any more and she kicks him in the chest, then he says that if she hadn’t pulled it, he’d “be dead,” clearly saying that she has the striking power to kill him.

She pulls the sai out of the club and stands over him. He says that she can see something is weird here too, “so I’ve got a chance”—again implying that he’s fighting against the odds in trying to beat her, and that he’s only got “a chance” and not a likelihood of winning. She agrees to stop and tells what she believes to be the story of her child (irrelevant so not shown here).

Later, after finding evidence that the story is not true, Daredevil meets Elektra, saying that he’s there even though he knows how she’d react—implying that it would be dangerous for him. When she leaves, he says, “I think I almost died back there”—saying straight up that she could have killed him if she had taken the news badly.

Total successful strikes: one kick from Elektra, but Daredevil let her do it.

Analysis:

The fight was completely in Elektra’s favor. It’s true that at first he’s unaware of what’s going on, while she’s bloodlusted. During this first part, people might say that Daredevil was holding back, but that seems unlikely. I’d argue that he’s taking way too many hits for this to be an example of him holding back, i.e. not doing his best. He would at least try to block, not let her hit him—he knows she’s too dangerous for him to give her any advantage like letting her get free hits (as supported by his later multiple comments about how dangerous she is). At best (from his perspective) he was losing due to her greater motivation.

As more evidence regarding “holding back,” during the first phase of the fight she hit him with 6 successful strikes to 0. Again, he’s not going to let her have 6 free hits with no hits back—if not from self-preservation, then from ego, which is not unsubstantial for him; in addition they have an almost flirtatious sparring style, he would be used to fighting back just as a habit; it’s not like he’s afraid of breaking her if he hits her. Also, just to be clear, the last time their relationship was highlighted, in a flashback in the last Elektra volume, she still loved him, and he turned her away. So this is not a case where he loves her too much and doesn’t want to hurt her. At best he is trying to only fight defensively and doing a terrible job of it.

After deciding he has to be more aggressive, he still only gets in 2 successful strikes to her 4.

He notes twice that her strikes almost killed him (the one almost took his head off, the pulled kick that could have killed him). He also notes three times that there was a significant danger of losing or being killed (“has to stop this before she kills me,” “he’s got a chance” to win because she also sees something weird is going on, and “I almost died back there.”)

The upshot: clearly, at the very least, in the case of a bloodlusted Elektra vs a normal Daredevil, Elektra beat the snot out of him, and he knew she would be able to. A more bullish interpretation would be that the second half of the fight, where he was fully invested, and his various remarks about his chances, give major implications for her chances to beat him in a fight with equal motivations.

EDIT: In issue 20, he reflects on the fight (revealing that it was Purple Man who mind-controlled her), but more importantly saying that "I survived that...barely." If he was "barely" able to "survive," this clearly implies that he was doing everything he could to defend himself and barely managed to stay alive.

OLD SCANS

ELEKTRA VOLUME 1

How Bullseye trained for Elektra (which implies the FIGHTING SKILL required to beat him)

I’ve shown the fight where Elektra beats Bullseye above, and referenced how he had been training to fight her for a long time. Here are the details.

Bullseye spent months training for Elektra, to an intense degree, so that he dreamed of her at night, and “by day his every thought and action is directed towards her.” They train him using holograms and video, computer breakdowns of her movements, information on her body, personality, and history.

Elektra later goes to his apartment and finds these training holograms.

Dodges bullets while surrounded (DODGING, SPEED)

Some Ukranian mobsters break in a door and come shooting through it with multiple automatic weapons. She dodges effortlessly in the chaos, possibly by getting behind them without them noticing. They completely surround her and the girl, Nina, that Elektra wants to protect. There are at least 11 guns pointed at her. She dodges out of the circle unharmed while they fire.

Dodges more gunfire (AGILITY, DODGING)

Agilely dodges more gunfire in the same situation at close enough range to close in and disarm the guy.

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Dodges gunfire (DODGING, AGILITY)

Jumps off a speeding motorcycle while dodging gunfire at close range.

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Disarms with a sai (FIGHTING SKILL, ACCURACY)

While fighting those mobsters she disarms someone with a thrown sai.

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Beats Razorfist (FIGHTING SKILL)

Despite his stupid gimmick, Razorfist is actually a decent fighter. Elektra dodges his attacks and takes him out in two strikes.

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Fights Taskmaster, parts 1 and 2, now with more context (FIGHTING SKILL, SPEED, PSYCHIC RESISTANCE)

I showed this above, but have a few pages of extra context here.

During a tournament of assassins, to find out who is the best, Elektra fights Taskmaster directly after fighting other assassins. When he copies her technique, she fights too fast for him to keep up. She has the advantage, but then he copies Daredevil’s fighting style, which “threw her for a fatal second,” enabling him to take her down. She has a hallucination of Stick right after, which confirms that the reason she lost was because Taskmaster impersonated Daredevil.

They meet again soon after, still during the assassin tournament, and Taskmaster tries to copy Daredevil again. This time, she two-shots him, knocking him out. Then Shatterhead, a psychic, tries to attack her. He can cause psychic pain in people which is extremely debilitating, and which he successfully used on her once before. However, now she sucks up the pain and embraces it, to his shock. Blacklash then kills Shatterhead since he had previously raped and killed Blacklash’s wife.

Elektra swings Nina above her head (STRENGTH)

Elektra swings a grown woman above her head with one arm.

Holds a guy out of a window with one arm (STRENGTH)

Holds a guy out of a window with one arm.

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Breaks through 7 concrete blocks (STRIKING POWER)

Breaks through 7 concrete blocks.

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Kicks a van door off (STRIKING POWER)

She kicks off the door of a van from the inside, for nice striking power.

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Professional Broadway Dancer (PHYSICAL APTITUDE)

Elektra is asked to create and star in a Broadway dance show, even though she has no experience. She does almost no practice for it whatsoever. It is an immediate hit although it closes soon after due to tragedy.

This honestly shows a ridiculous level of physical and artistic aptitude. A solo Broadway show is the highest level of achievement for this art field and she achieves it without any effort or professional experience whatsoever.

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Disappears in front of Stick’s Ghost (STEALTH)

She has been communing with Stick’s ghost, who often disappears on her. In this instance, she disappears on him, leaving him to know what it feels like, for a pretty stellar stealth feat.

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Elektra vs Shang-Chi (FIGHTING SKILL, ACCURACY, PERCEPTION)

Elektra meets Shang-Chi. He catches a fly in the ends of his chopsticks, and she cuts off just the fly’s head—an absurdly hard skill feat. Shang-Chi throws the chopsticks at her, and she blocks them; she throws her sais but he stops them with the table, and kicks the table in such a way as to knock them back at her, but she catches them. Shang-Chi then catches all his spilled noodles before they hit the ground. She points out that she was always aware of his spying on her, which he thought had been a secret, showing that her perception is better than his stealth.

Elektra vs Bizen of the Hundred Poles (AGILITY)

While invading a Hand stronghold, Elektra fights Bizen, a Hand master who fights on top of poles. She shows some nice agility and kills Bizen in teamwork with Yukio.

Elektra and Daredevil vs American Samurai, 1 and 2, plus “who is American Samurai?” (FIGHTING SKILL)

The American Samurai is a giant man with enhanced strength (able to bend steel doors), a blade that can easily cut through steel, and who can teleport, all due to a sacred koan he knows. (See below)

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Elektra and Daredevil confront him and he leaves after a brief, unresolved fight, during which American Samurai hit Elektra, tanked her kick, and almost took DD’s head off. Elektra and Matt’s banter shows the equally unresolved status of their beliefs about which of the two of them is better.

They confront him again later, when he wants to die in battle. This time they win, after Elektra hits him 3 times and Daredevil once.

Shows off better deductive skills than Daredevil (PERCEPTION)

Elektra and Daredevil are at a crime scene. Despite his enhanced senses, Daredevil thinks there is “not much to see.” Elektra schools him, showing that she can deduce several abstract and specific qualities about their target (American Samurai) from very little evidence.

One-shots each of the Four Winds (FIGHTING SKILL, SPEED, DODGING, DURABILITY)

The Four Winds are a ninja order with mystic powers. Elektra first fights the North Wind, with an ice sword. He nicks her, but she one-shots him. The narration notes that he “never met a man or woman as fast as this.” The other three Winds show up, and note that normally even that little nick would have killed her by freezing her heart (both physically and metaphorically?), so she could only have survived through her Hand training and personal darkness. She responds that she’s a quick healer. The South Wind attacks with a heat blast, which she dodges, the East Wind with speedy throwing stars, which she reflects back at the South Wind, one-shotting him. The West Wind sprays “clouds of confusion” but she goes close to the floor, pins the West Wind’s feet to the ground, and one-shot-kicks the East Wind.

So overall she one-shots four infamous powered ninjas.

Shang-Chi shows up right after and knows their reputation. He is impressed, saying that he is surprised at how easily they were defeated, backing up this feat’s impressiveness.

Kills the Architect (AGILITY, WEAPON CONTROL, POWER OF INTENT/MIND)

The Architect is a super-powerful near-immortal mystic entity intent on world conquest. He possesses Elektra’s friend Konrad. He blasts at her, she dodges, and it takes her “three seconds to land,” which is actually a crazy long time, showing what a high jump it was. The Architect creates a psychic shield. He wants her to kill him but for complicated plot reasons he can’t make it easy (he is the one who organized the tournament of all the best assassins to find out who would be good enough to kill him), and he assumes she won’t be able to do it. But, she penetrates his shield (perhaps because she is able to draw on the darkness of her soul?), in a blow clean enough that even when she cuts him directly through the body, he doesn’t feel it until his torso falls off.

Breaks out of Dr. Strange’s spell (POWER OF INTENT/MIND)

Dr. Strange catches her and says she “cannot break out of this simple but effective spell,” but she does and stabs at him threateningly. He says he is impressed.

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Flashback Issue (FIGHTING SKILLS, DODGING)

Although I don’t believe this issue fits in with her origin any more, here she first learns about martial arts—only through books—and is then able to dodge gunfire and pull out a mobster’s eye, with no other experience.

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Respected by Wolverine (REPUTATION)

Just two minor slice-of-life scenes showing Wolverine’s personal respect for her after she retrained him. Wolverine doesn’t respect or trust just anybody.

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Scares Killer Shrike just by her presence (REPUTATION)

Killer Shrike breaks and tells her what she wants to know just because her presence is so scary in itself. She also apparently did something terrible to someone with her fingernail.

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ELEKTRA VOLUME 2

Olympic caliber gymnast at 15 (AGILITY)

She was an Olympic caliber gymnast at 15, before spending her life training to be a ninja.

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Parkour to top of building (AGILITY)

A nice jump to the top of a building.

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Elektra escapes strait jacket (ESCAPE SKILLS)

Context: Elektra has been severely drugged and is in the process of being brainwashed. She is chained and in a strait jacket.

Despite her mental condition, she is able to temporarily throw off her conditioning and escape the strait jacket.

Elektra stabs snake in the desert [SPEED]

Context: Elektra was severely drugged, brainwashed to hate herself, then stranded in the desert with extensive heat and sun exposure and no water for at least a day. A rattlesnake strikes, but despite all of the above she is fast enough to stick it to the ground with the hilt of her sai.

Elektra kills numerous soldiers in the desert (ENDURANCE, SPEED, STEALTH, STRATEGY)

Context: Elektra was severely drugged, brainwashed to hate herself, then stranded in the desert with extensive heat and sun exposure and no water for at least a day. After catching a rattlesnake, she intentionally lets it bite her.

More time passes, with greater sun exposure, and the snake venom coursing through her.

3 members of a paramilitary squad find her; their leader and his two partners wants her killed. Despite all that’s happened, she blocks one soldier’s hands with great speed. When the others pick her up, she kills them all off-panel.

[Not shown here: She takes their guns, grenades, and radio. When a full squad of soldiers, and their 3 bosses, come, she sabotages the helicopter and pins them down with sniper fire. The soldiers search for her.]

3 soldiers go in one direction. One signals another that he found something: the third guy, dead. Even though they were all close to each other, they didn’t see it happen. They lift him, and grenades go off, killing them both.

3 more guys go in that direction. The guy in the rear dies, possibly by sniper fire. She takes down the second guy with a thrown sai to the head. Note that she’s attacking them from nearby in order to throw a sai, even though just VERY shortly before she was in the direction that they’re running TOWARDS, which has got to be several hundred feet away based on the picture. So she has traversed a great distance very quickly and with great stealth, despite little cover. Then she attacks the third guy with a sai from behind and underneath, where she was apparently hiding under a cover of dirt—despite just attacking from at least some short distance away with a sai a few seconds ago. Once again not just showing great stealth, but great speed with that stealth.

She then shoots the main leader, an experienced soldier, in the head, and lets his two parters go. (This is a total of 10 dead soldiers.)

This whole scene is impressive for a few reasons: one, she was almost dead right before this due to being drugged, exposure, dehydration, and rattlesnake venom. She had wanted to die. Second, she shows great travel speed and very impressive stealth, to hide from experienced soldiers with very little cover, and showing she could hide herself extremely quickly and closely to the victim. Third, obviously these guys are fodder and any hero could have defeated them—BUT she killed them all with a great degree of finesse and panache. It’s HOW she killed them that is impressive. She could have just sniped them all, but instead she took them through a fear-inducing, subtle campaign of picking them off one at a time from stealth. To me, it’s a masterpiece on how to kill fodder with flair and precision under highly adverse circumstances while being at her personal worst in terms of physical shape.

Nerve strikes (NERVE STRIKES)

She uses a nerve strike on a lady’ neck from behind, knocking her out.

There are also these nerve pinches.

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Defeats Dictator who has Scorpio Key (FIGHTING SKILL)

The Dictator of Iraq, “coincidentally” also named Saddam although with a different last name than Hussein, has the Scorpio Key, a powerful item that he uses (for example) to destroy multiple jet fighters. (Fun fact: this storyline was printed just after Sept. 11.) It can also teleport the user and other objects, up to city size (this is the same key that Scorpio used).

She sneaks into his office and rushes him while he’s holding it, and kills him. While it’s not like Saddam is shown to have a lot of combat awareness, it’s a nice example of her defeating a guy with a hugely powerful weapon using nothing but a sword.

Makes a SHIELD agent think he killed her (MIND TRICKS)

A SHIELD agent thinks he shot Elektra in the head, point blank. Then he has a blackout. He later describes the experience in his logs as seen here. Nick Fury later explains that she “ninja mind scrambled” her and that he should have been trained against this. This agent later turns out to be an LMD; I’m not sure if it’s more or less impressive to do a mind trick on an LMD, honestly, since they’re artificial intelligences.

So she is capable of altering people’s memories and understanding in the midst of a fight.

Stealth on a jeep (STEALTH/MIND TRICKS)

An aingent of SHIELD who actually works for Hydra is on a open jeep in the middle of the desert with no cover at all. It’s almost impossible that the agent could have gotten in the jeep without noticing someone else in the back, but when she looks in the mirror, she sees Elektra’s ribbon. The agent stops and jumps out. From a bird’s eye shot, we see no one in the jeep. The agent also sees no one in the jeep or in any direction. Then she turns back and Elektra is in the jeep, driving off.

A huge example of using stealth, perhaps with the additional use of chi/ninja mind tricks to help.

Appearing and disappearing in front of Nick Fury and multiple SHIELD agents (STEALTH/MIND TRICKS)

After referring to how she “ninja mind scrambled” another agent who should have been trained against that, Nick Fury wonders if she has secreted herself into his hidden bunker. She has, and steps out of the shadows where she was hidden—showing that she can do it even to Fury, who presumably really ought to be trained against her techniques. After talking to him, she disappears in the same way.

Hunts down rich dude (STEALTH, SPEED, STRATEGY, DETERMINATION/INTENT)

Second telling of how Elektra hunts down Prebble, who is guarded by a Frank Bauer, a “topflight security professional, with years of both national and covert military experience.”

Prebble says she has already killed a dozen guards, supposedly the best. She kills two more, and he runs off. He goes to the Hamptons. She spies, kills 6-8 armed guards in different areas with her sai in a blitz. Throws one’s body against an electrified door to defuse it, kills the head guard. Prebble runs. He goes to Provence, she spies. She breaks into the guarded, hidden wine cellar, turns off the lights. Kills more guards. Lets him run to a mountain (kills at least 2), the jungle (2), the shore (2), then his last house. Kills more, scares off Bauer, kills Prebble.

Like the soldiers in the desert, I know that any hero could beat this fodder. What’s nice is the determination, flair, and finesse she shows in doing it.

The next several scenes all involve Drake, an ex-Hand and Chaste martial artist.

Who is Drake?

Drake’s father learns martial arts from the Chaste in Japan after WWII. He comes back and teaches his son, James. James teaches Drake, who is a very small child. They all go back to Japan and the Chaste. James is described as a prodigy, and is trained by the Chaste. Stick watches Drake but doesn’t train her. James teaches Drake for 3 years. She’s better than he is—Stick knows too. Stick makes them fight: whoever wins can stay. Drake beats James, and he has to leave. Drake now turns her back on her brother who taught her for so long when everyone else ignored her. She was full of anger. She kills a Chaste in a match, and is kicked out. She joins the Hand. She has to fight a challenger in a pit, and kills him—he turns out to be her brother. She stays with the Hand and becomes a successful killer. Then one day they fight the Chaste, and she kills her father. She eventually leaves both groups.

UPSHOT: Drake is trained by the Hand and Chaste, an unusual combination. She is able to beat her father and prodigy brother who were also selected for their skill.

Fighting with Drake (FIGHTING SKILL, ENDURANCE)

Elektra first meets and fights Drake without knowing anything about her, while Drake has been given a complete file on her. Drake manages to out-speed Elektra, showing after-images—this is extremely impressive considering Elektra’s speed is one of her main attributes. Drake sweeps a bunch of shrunken out of the air with a cloth. Drake gets in all the hits. She says “you’ve got great moves and buckets of know-how, but you’ve got no heart.” And “you know how to fight and kill, all that good stuff, but you’re still a million miles from enlightenment.” “You’re truly one of the best I’ve ever seen, and I know what I’m talking about. But as the short green man said, you still have much to learn.”—explicitly setting it up so that Drake will be the Yoda to Elektra’s Luke. Elektra finally gets some hits in. Drake: “You’re a great fighter, like I said. But you suck as a martial artist. Spilling chi everywhere, crutching on your ninja tricks with no understanding of harmony.” She grabs Elektra’s sai and bends it with her hands. Elektra wants to be her student and Drake refuses.

The recap in the next issue states that this fight took six hours.

This is the culmination of a story where Elektra admits she is addicted to violence and is empty inside. As Drake says, she needs to fix what’s inside her to advance as a martial artist. She doesn’t lose to Drake due to her skill, but her character and use of chi. Drake helps her with this.

Waiting to be trained with Drake (STRENGTH)

After being refused as a student, Elektra continues to wait for admittance, as often seen in Asian monastic traditions. When she sees Drake hold two water cans at arm’s length, which would take a lot of strength, Elektra does the same with two paint cans for an unknown but obviously lengthy amount of time.

After various other scenes like this, Drake admits her as a white belt. Now that she can learn to grow towards enlightenment and acceptance of her addiction to violence, she can grow as a martial artist as well.

Sparring with Drake (FIGHTING SKILL)

While being taught, she now spars more evenly with Drake. She mentions that she has killed hundreds of people.

Fighting super-powered Hand ninjas (FIGHTING SKILLS)

Aided by Locke, a bodyguard/paramilitary type. Locke shoots Thought, one of 3 powered ninjas, leaving Pain and Shadow. There are also a ton of normal Hand—“twenty of our best,” as Thought says, and she has already killed “thirty dead at the dojo.” Locke continues to shoot some of them as she fights them. Shadow goes up to kill Locke. Pain, who remains, can make a sort of Iron Fist charged energy hand. She chops off Pain’s hands and kills him. Goes after Shadow, who has captured Locke. She stabs Shadow through Locke’s chest.

I don’t have a lot of info on these powered ninjas but they clearly are more powerful than normal Hand. Also, beating 50 Hand in a short time is impressive. Compare this with when the New Avengers fought the Skrull Elektra and numerous Hand in Japan—there were maybe 50 Hand there, but they had a whole New Avengers team with folks like Wolverine, Spider-man and Spider-Woman, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Dr. Strange to take them on, and they still didn’t win outright. Hand may be a kind of fodder, but there’s got to be some limit where it’s impressive to beat a certain amount. (See also when she and Wolverine kill hundreds of Hand in their temple in the Gorgon storyline.)

“Perfect Death” (REPUTATION)

Note that the Hand name for her is “Perfect Death”: she is their ultimate trainee.

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World’s Most Dangerous Assassin (REPUTATION)

Note that the book’s tagline for her at one point is “the world’s most dangerous assassin.” Not “one of the most,” but “the most”—as defined by Marvel, not just in a character’s opinion.

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It costs $2 million per kill to hire her (REPUTATION)

She charges $2 million per assassination (I know this panel isn’t totally explicit but it’s backed up in a few other panels through the issue where they talk about it in code).

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Confrontation with Murdock at grave (THIS REALLY HAS NO FEATS BUT IF ANYONE WANTS TO SEE THE WHOLE CONTEXT FOR THIS CHECK IT OUT)

In a flashback, Elektra and Daredevil fight, with her seemingly having him at sai point at one point—but who knows.

Then, they run into each other at her grave. He insults her, she throws a couple kicks that miss, she runs off. Like I said, it’s all kind of pointless—and has terrible art—but many people have posted it and I thought it was worth showing the whole scene.

OTHER STUFF IN NO PARTICULAR ORDER

BLACK WIDOW VOLUME

Elektra vs Black Widow (SPEED, ACCURACY, DODGING)

Generally speaking I think this is a high showing for Black Widow (although I also think Black Widow is underrated), especially given that Widow is seriously injured at the time, but they fight evenly. The best feat for Elektra is cutting a bullet in half that was fired from only a few feet away. She also dodges shots from a few feet away, and Black Widow has recently been noted by Daredevil as one of the three best shots he knows.

OLD-SCHOOL DAREDEVIL

Kills her sensei (FIGHTING SKILLS)

After her Chaste training, and as an initiation to join the Hand, Elektra is tricked into killing her sensei. Granted that he’s drugged and featless, but still he’s her former sensei, and she three-shots him.

Resurrection scene (DETERMINATION/INTENT)

Shows how after she first died, the Hand prepare to resurrect her, and get her close to life, sacrificing some of their own lives. Daredevil hears her heart beat once. Then she is purged of her inner darkness by Daredevil using Chaste techniques, and then finally fully revived by Stone (a master of the Chaste), who sacrifices his life to bring her completely back. She is then pure enough to climb the Chaste’s mountain, which only the most pure can do.

HERC

Vs Herc and Zeus (FIGHTING SKILLS)

Elektra beats the crap out of a depowered Zeus, then one-shots a depowered Herc and takes a package from him. She beats them up again later, not shown here because it turns out to be intentional on their part; however the scene shown here seems to be sincere.

Pins Spider-God by the neck (ACCURACY)

She pins a Spider-god to a wall with the prong of her sai.

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HEROES FOR HIRE

One-shots two superhumans on Raft (FIGHTING SKILL, NERVE STRIKE, DODGING)

An escaped prisoner on the Raft, Mash-Up, has “surgical and bionic enhancement. Ultra strength.” Another, Firefight, is pyrokinetic. Both give the Shroud trouble, but Elektra shows up and one-shots Mash-Up with what looks like a nerve strike, and dodges Firefight’s fire blasts and KOs him with a kick.

Elektra and Shroud vs Purple Man(FIGHTING SKILLS, BLIND FIGHTING, CONTROL OF BODY)

Purple Man controls a ton of escaped prisoners on the Raft, a prison for super criminals whose powers are now active. Elektra and Shroud wade into them. Elektra considers it stimulating; Hero for Hire’s rules against killing are the only thing making it a challenge for her. Shroud covers the place in Darkforce, and Elektra blind fights effortlessly, just as well as Shroud. Purple Man controls Shroud, and then tries to control Elektra to kill Shroud. But she doesn’t obey, and KOs Killgrave instead. She explains that she held her breath against his pheromones for five minutes, which is both physically and strategically impressive. Even Shroud, who is very experienced in eastern cult mysticism and martial arts, is shocked that she could hold her breath that long (or resist Killgrave).

Tagline is "World's Greatest Assassin" (REPUTATION)

Again, Marvel's assessment is that she is the "world's greatest assassin."

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PETER PARKER/ELEKTRA SHARED ANNUAL

Elektra vs Silencer 1 and 2 (FIGHTING STRATEGICALLY)

The Silencer is a superhuman with powers of intangibility, teleportation (out of darkness?), able to pull hand weapons and guns out of his cloud, superhuman strength, possible superhuman speed (able to hit Spider-Man with little difficulty), and fear generation.

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She first fights him and is unable to hurt him, although she is unhurt as well.

The second time, she and Spider-Man fight him, again to no avail, until they notice his weakness to magnetism, and they both realize how to beat him through strategy.

SAVAGE WOLVERINE

Breaks into SHIELD and dodges lasers (CUTTING CAPACITY, STRIKING POWER, AGILITY)

Elektra breaks into a SHIELD facility to find Bullseye’s body, but it’s not there.

This has a couple great feats. First, sword-cutting ability: she cuts through the locking mechanism between two metal doors on the first page, and then cuts through a metal lock on Bullseye’s door on the second page. Elektra just carries normal swords, so this is kind of crazy.

Second: strength? On the first page, after she cuts the lock, the door busts inwards, and is bent—curved—by the blow. How did she do this? Kick it in? We don’t see, but since there’s no sound of an explosion, I think we have to assume she hit it physically somehow. It’s what, a foot thick? To cause that kind of deformation of the door is crazy.

Third, agility: nice example of dodging in a very agile fashion through a laser web, with a pretty high jump.

Last and least: elbows through a safety visor.

Honestly, I had originally loaded this up for the agility and hadn’t really noticed the cutting through steel, or deforming a foot-thick steel door, but those are very impressive.

Elektra fights better than Wolverine vs the Hand (PERCEPTION, FIGHTING SKILL)

Elektra and Wolverine invade a Hand base. She is able to hear their hidden presence like Wolverine is. Wolverine notes that she’s killed so many Hand it must be boring to her, and compares that to himself: “Me, it takes a while to get warmed up. Truth is I ain’t much good in a fight. Not at first. Then I take a few hits and somethin’ in me starts waking’ up.”

Wolverine and Elektra fights vs Shikaru the Mute (FIGHTING SKILL, ENDURANCE)

First, Wolverine fights a giant, muscular, clawed Hand creature known as Shikaru the Mute. “There is no peak to which his rage will not build a road.” Wolverine attacks, and “healing factor or not…this is the kind a’ fight that leaves scars. Neither one a’ us is gonna be the same.” Clearly Wolverine thinks Shikaru is extremely formidable. They both go berserk. “There’s a part a’ me that wants to tear flesh and rend bone. A part that would rather kill than think. Used to believe that part a’ me was inexhaustible. That no one could tussle with it long enough to find its end. I was wrong. There’s nothing left. He’s taken it all.” So Wolverine goes full-on against him and loses in pure endurance and willpower, and Shikaru fights all the way through Wolverine’s healing factor. Wolverine is shown KOd, and later wakes up as a prisoner.

When he wakes up, Wolverine sees Elektra fighting Shikaru. It’s not clear exactly how long she has been fighting him before this, or after he wakes up, but while most of the panels show her getting hit, she stays in the fight, not giving up. Finally Wolverine breaks free, and digging deeper than before, beats Shikaru.

Therefore, presumably due to some combination of her agility and speed and skill, which are all arguably higher than Wolverine’s (note his own comment on her skill in the earlier scene), she puts in a better showing than Wolverine’s first attempt, since she isn’t beaten by the time they stop, and she doesn’t even have a healing factor to help her—whereas Wolverine needed his healing factor for the fight, and even that wasn’t enough. Granted that Wolverine was later able to beat Shikaru (directly after Elektra fought him, so Shikaru was presumably weakened) by digging even deeper into his rage—but still, doing better than Wolverine against a hugely powerful warrior is still a very solid feat.

DAREDEVIL ANNUAL

Nick Fury says Shang Chi is “at least her equal” (REPUTATION)

Nick Fury says Shang Chi is “at least” Elektra’s equal. Clearly this is a very open-ended statement and could mean Shang Chi is a billion times better than her, but the way he says it makes it sound like they’re pretty close. Otherwise why not say “we need someone better than her”? Also, Shang Chi does not contradict Fury’s assessment.

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Elektra, Daredevil, Shang Chi, and Ghost Maker (FIGHTING SKILL)

This is a three-part series of fights

Ghost Maker, Elektra, and Shang Chi: Ghost Maker and Daredevil fight. Ghost Maker thinks that Daredevil’s reflexes “nearly rival” his. Elektra shows up (“out of nowhere,” meaning he was unable to detect her) and Ghost Maker believes he can’t fight both at once, so he leaves.

Ghost Maker vs Shang Chi: This time he is able to be near Elektra undetected. While Ghost Maker does admit Shang is his superior, he gives him a pretty good fight, and doesn’t even use most of his weapons. Ghost Maker recovers more quickly from a surprise than Shang does. Eventually Ghost Maker retreats, mistakenly thinking he killed Shang in a blast.

Ghost Maker vs Shang Chi, Daredevil, Elektra: Daredevil sneaks up on him. Daredevil and Ghost Maker fight, with Daredevil getting in most of the hits but Ghost Maker hangs in with no major problem. Elektra sees Shang Chi, who was hurt a bit earlier, and says that Shang is “in no condition to take” her. She also says “to take me, you had better be as willing to lose your life as I am mine.” I.e., whatever the situation, she thinks the fight would be close and based on intangibles. Ghost Maker finally takes the advantage over Daredevil after more or less losing before, by using electric shuriken. Shang and Elektra show up. Ghost Maker throws a sai into Shang. Daredevil and Elektra together fight Ghost Maker. They dodge his point blank fire. Daredevil disarms him of the pistols. Ghost Maker tries again and fails with explosives. They seem to have the advantage on him, but then he cuts Daredevil’s chest (where he has armor plating) and disarms Elektra. Shang throws the sai to Elektra, and she uses it to kill Ghost Maker. The narrative calls Elektra “one of the world’s deadliest assassins.”

Perhaps the best part of this, in terms of an Elektra respect thread, is that when Shang throws the sai, he chooses to throw it to her. Perhaps it’s because it’s hers; perhaps because he knows she has more of a killer instinct, but one way or the other it seems that he determined that she was the better person to use it against Ghost Maker.

Ghost Maker’s weapons include: two katanas, handguns (able to shoot DD’s baton-rope), flight through jet pack. Two knives, electrified throwing stars, belt of explosives, explosive throwing disks, possibly more.

GLIMPSE AND ECHO MINISERIES

Vs Lyle possessed by the Beast (AGILITY, FIGHTING SKILL)

Lyle has been possessed by the Beast. This is an era where there are only a few Hand. He is the Beast’s central focus. In addition, he is a star professional basketball player, so he obviously has a decent amount of strength, speed, and endurance. And he has been physically trained by the Hand to be their champion.

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At first he has power, but isn’t completely turned into the Beast yet. He swings, she blocks. He swings, she flips over it. She kicks him and he is impaled on a chunk of rubble—basically she one-shots the great hope of the Hand.

Then the white cats (symbols of the Beast) enter him and fully transform him. He is now gargantuan, with tentacles. She continuously evades its attacks, as it realizes that it’s too powerful for a human body to contain. She stabs him and decapitates him, killing him.

Theoretically, Lyle ought to be as powerful, or even more so, than Shadowlands Daredevil, who was also possessed by the Beast, and who trashed numerous heroes including Spider-Man and Iron Fist.

Throws sai into shrunken hole (ACCURACY)

She throws a sai into the hole in the middle of a shuriken, thrown by a ninja master, showing nice accuracy.

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Ninja notes her speed (SPEED, DODGING)

Elektra dodges numerous shuriken from a Hand. She one-shots him, throwing a sai into his chest. He remarks, “Huh—So quick.” Dying, he says “Forgive me. I must try,” realizing how much of a higher level she is than him. She says to take his shot, and he misses, saying again, “So fast.”

Speaks to the dead (CHI POWERS)

Elektra is able to speak with the dead on their plane of existence due to Hand training/chi powers. She is shown as being separate from the rest of reality; others cannot see them.

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CURRENT SPIDER-WOMAN

Spider-Woman vs Tiger Shark (FIGHTING SKILLS)

Compare Spider-Woman’s fight vs Tiger Shark, which takes many pages, vs Elektra's fight vs Tiger Shark, who one-shotted him. Spider-Woman, obviously, has superhuman strength and agility, venom blasts, and is a trained Hydra and SHIELD agent. She is also, for instance, able to defeat a huge number of Skrulls, which can be extremely dangerous.

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#28 Posted by BruceRogers (17320 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump, love it. Keep up the good work

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#29 Posted by DSTREET45 (5280 posts) - - Show Bio

Love it. Good work man.

@owie said:

Afterward, Elektra sinks to the ground and says something unintelligible (I played this a million times and can’t figure out what she said; if you know, please tell me). But it seems something like an admission of it being hard.

Not sure if you still need to know but she said: "The best things in life leave you breathless, right?"

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#30 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Love it. Good work man.

@owie said:

Afterward, Elektra sinks to the ground and says something unintelligible (I played this a million times and can’t figure out what she said; if you know, please tell me). But it seems something like an admission of it being hard.

Not sure if you still need to know but she said: "The best things in life leave you breathless, right?"

Oh cool, thanks. I can't tell you how many times I rewound that thing trying to figure it out. Glad to have that resolved!

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#32 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Edited to add an issue of the new Elektra series. 5/14/17, and edited again on 7/20/17 to add more to it.

I'm going to add scans from a few issues here, then in the next post update the "Cross-listed" set of scans categorized by attribute (Strength, etc.)

Spider-man 2099:

Summary: Elektra temporarily teams up with Spider-man 2099 against a Greek-themed villainess.

Elektra sneaks up on Spider-man 2099, and later drugs him and Captain America 2099, even though Miguel has enhanced senses.

Fights Iron Man 2099. Dodges a blast while he comments on her speed. She disappears in plain sight over a cliff’s edge, and is only picked up by his electronic detection. Note that this isn’t just normal Iron Man level tech, but future Iron Man tech.

Holds Iron Man 2099 in the air with one arm for a sustained amount of time (granted he is a Little Person).

Disappears while directly next to Spider-man 2099 (who has enhanced senses) and Captain American 2099.

Elektra fights a superhuman woman named Medea who says she got her powers from the Greek gods. Stabs her with a thrown sai, tanks a blast from her. Captain America 2099 and Spider-man 2099 step in, then Elektra is the one to kill her.

Uncanny Avengers (from 2016):

Summary: Elektra helps out the Uncanny Avengers against the Hand and their resurrected Hulk.

Elektra penetrates Hulk's eyes with her sai. Soon after, Human Torch goes nova on Hulk and he's basically fine, so Hulk's durability was just fine when she did this.

Elektra turns down being an Uncanny Avenger, kisses Human Torch, saying, "So that's what handsome idiot tastes like."

2017 Elektra series:

Summary: Elektra goes to Vegas and annoyingly gets a face mask like in the Netflix show, even though everyone knows who she is and what she looks like.

Swiftly kills two mobsters.

Elektra quickly kills some thugs.

Elektra makes short work of Arcade's super-strong card-themed robots. Includes accuracy, speed, and strength feats.

Elektra kills some more mobsters.

Elektra kills some wanna-be assassins with advanced energy weapons with some sticks of bamboo.

Elektra, starting off unarmed, defeats a giant robot run by Arcade. She eventually gets help from a friend who gives her an amp connected to Arcade's Murderworld set.

The above fight includes an example of her:

• doing giant leaps

• being hit a long distance by the massive robot and being fine

dodging multiple shots from the robot

deflecting MANY simultaneous attacks from the robot (this is while wearing the amp-suit; it's unclear what it does beyond flying and shooting energy shuriken)

• and afterwards punching through the glass of Arcade's escape sphere.

Elektra & Wolverine: The Redeemer:

Summary: In this earlier limited series, Elektra is working as an assassin when she meets Wolverine for the first time. A girl teen engineered with Logan's powers named Avery Connor (no, NOT X-23!) becomes attached to Elektra.

These posts replace the Redeemer scans I included above, as these are far more in depth.

Notes on Redeemer's Chronology:

Redeemer has an unusual format, being more of an illustrated novel than a traditional multi-panel comic (although it was published in 4 floppy-comic issues). However, as far as I can tell it is considered to be canon, having been included in the handbook-style The Classic Marvel Figure Collection #17. It is listed as being part of 616 by Wikipedia, marvunapp and marvel.wikia.

Where it fits in chronology is confusing. One argument is that it takes place after Elektra is tainted by Erynys and works as an assassin again (1994), and before she next meets Wolverine to retrain him in Wolverine 100 and thereafter (1996).

However, Elektra seems to feel that the scar that killed her is pretty recent, which would lean towards soon after her resurrection (Daredevil 190, 1983). However, she was purified by her resurrection, and wasn't working as an assassin then.

Wolverine starts going feral in Wolverine 90 (1995), which is due to when he lost his adamantium in X-Men 25 (1993). Elektra helps him regain his sanity after Wolverine 100. He gets his adamantium back in Wolverine 145 (1999).

Since Logan has his adamantium in Redeemer, it really ought to take place before 1993 or after 1999 (and it can't be after 1999 since he and Elektra had already met in other comics by then). Since he is fully sane in Redeemer, it ought to be before 1995, or after 100, and again it can't be after 100 because they have already met by then.

Also, there’s no mention of the X-Men or Weapon X, but he clearly has SOME of his Weapon X memories, so it takes place after he regains those memories. Presumably he is taking a break from the X-men at this time.

So by Elektra's timeline it ought to take place after 1994, and by Wolverine's timeline, it ought to take place before 1993. So, there is a bit of fudging regarding dates. Given her feelings of the recent nature of her scarring, and the general lack of mention of the X-Men, I believe it took place soon after her resurrection, and they just messed up with the bit about her working as an assassin.

Elektra kills a man with a poisoned syringe.

She climbs the outside of a skyscraper for 2 hours, then later jumps out of a window with a parachute.

She balances on an eighth-inch ledge.

Elektra is willing to kill a fourteen-year-old girl just for seeing her. (Also beats this enhanced-speed girl down the stairs by jumping off a balcony, and kills a guard).

Avery is a fourteen-year-old girl with enhanced speed, strength, and durability, and a healing factor. She is supposed to be an improvement on Wolverine. However, she is not a trained fighter. After some back and forth strikes that Avery is able to keep up with due to her speed, Elektra wins through a lock.

For context on her speed, Wolverine sprints 60’ in the same issue, reaching and defeating a guard before he can react.

Elektra vs Wolverine. Wolverine is guarding a woman and her daughter. They are in a limo, Wolverine is alert. Elektra blows it up with a rocket launcher. After he’s out, he only just dodges a strike from her. He is “barely” able to parry fast enough against more strikes. She is “fantastically quick, and inherently dishonest, feinting and faking.” He tries to feint, but she knows it and almost gets him. He cuts her, but she let him do it to get close to the mother and daughter. He attacks, she dodges. She stabs him in the chest with both sai. He goes down and she takes the child. He lays there for some time, healing, unable to move.

Later, she says “I’ve killed you once. I will do it again.” “He grinned, not because he didn’t believe her, but because he absolutely did. He suspected that Elektra never made threats; she just kept promises.” So he agrees that she could beat him again.

Also later, “If he refused the hostage’s order, it didn’t matter. She would simply kill him again. It would require more work, but Elektra would have no other choice. The little man seemed to be thinking something similar.” So again he agrees that she would have the advantage.

In a second brief fight, they clash and he hits her from the back. They engage again with no result. She dodges some bullets from Kiefer. She disarms Kiefer.

She has no doubt that she could kill 30 guards with automatic weapons if she did it alone (more evidence of numbers), by stealth.

5 minutes of prep is called “an eternity” for Elektra.

Angry that she only hit 3 out of 4 small targets, uses poisoned shuriken.

Has a garrote wire in her sash.

Kills Kiefer, the bad guy, in a sweet double strike.

After killing more than 20 guards, the remaining few are surrender monkeys, giving up as she points her sai at them.

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#33 Posted by deactivated-097092725 (10555 posts) - - Show Bio

This will remain one of the most glorious threads on this site. Thank you so much for all your hard work and dedication in showcasing my favourite comicbook character.

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#34 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

This post gathers all the feats for 616-comics Elektra that are in this thread and organizes them by characteristic (strength, speed, etc.). It also includes many other feats for her that are not in this thread. This list will stay here at post 34 from now on.

The original posts may include more context on the feats and go into them in more depth (for instance, in the instance where she stabs Hulk in the eyes, the original post has a supporting scan that shows that same version of the Hulk was able to withstand Johnny Storm's Nova blast with no problem).

This post is where to find the main feats without context, but organized in a comprehensive, easier-to-use fashion.

Images/scenes will often be listed under more than one category, depending on their content. This is not an attempt to pad the list, but an attempt to be exhaustive about categories.

***Almost all of the scans in this post are mine, but I did include some from the Killer Movies respect thread in order to be more comprehensive, so credit for those scans goes to the creator of that thread***

ALL FEATS, ORGANIZED BY THEME

STEALTH

Disappears in front of Stick’s Ghost

Elektra appears and disappears multiple times while killing soldiers in the desert where there is no cover

Stealth on a jeep (disappears and reappears multiple times in plain sight)

Appearing and disappearing in front of Nick Fury and multiple SHIELD agents

Disappears while fighting Skrulls

Sneaks up on Spider-man 2099, who has enhanced senses.

Drugs Spider-man 2099 and Captain America 2099, despite his senses.

Disappears while directly next to Spider-man 2099 (who has enhanced senses) and Captain American 2099.

Fights Iron Man 2099. She disappears in plain sight over a cliff’s edge, and is only picked up by his electronic detection. Note that this isn’t just normal Iron Man level tech, but future Iron Man tech.

Disappears over the edge of a roof in front of Iron Fist, reappears from the other direction, very similar to the Iron Man 2099 feat.

While Daredevil is fighting some Hand, Elektra kills another Hand in the next room, and he never senses that she's there with either enhanced senses or radar sense

While Daredevil is fighting some Hand, his enhanced senses (he is temporarily without radar sense) have a hard time picking up or identifying Elektra (for instance, he hears a Hand's heartbeat behind him, but then it disappears--he never picks up that Elektra killed that Hand)

Elektra catches a radar-less (but not enhanced-senses-less) Daredevil by surprise and smacks him in the head with a thrown sai

Elektra catches a sick Daredevil by surprise and smacks him in the head with a thrown sai

Hunts down rich dude (continuously avoids detection)

Takes a suitcase a guy is guarding, and then returns it, without him or anyone else noticing

Runs across the snow without leaving a trace(Assassin)

She runs on the snow without a mark at the age of 12, confirming Assassin’s similar scene.

She pranks Garrett on multiple occasions, using mind-clouding psi powers and/or stealth. Here she shot his beer can, stole his pistol out of his shoulder holster, and took a gun out of the floor and made it fall apart when he picked it up without him knowing she was there at all. Here she steals his gun again. Here she plants drugs on him and steals his plane ticket—while he is specifically looking for her. (Assassin)

Disappears directly in front of Daredevil and his enhanced senses.

In a dream sequence by Daredevil--where he would presumably not dream this if it were not true, he says "she never makes any sound at all. Not unless she wants to."

She leaves Daredevil: "Then Elektra's gone, silent as she came. Her ninja ways invisible to even his senses."

She throws a sai as a calling card when she arrives; Daredevil notes that "her heartbeat caught my hypersensitive ear a split second before the sai found its mark."

Disappears in front of a guy at a casino.

Kills a bunch of guards without any of them firing a shot.

Disappears out of an alley when she was just ahead of two guys.

Even standard Hand are great at stealth. Here, two ex-Hand members are amazed that a whole troop of Hand appear as if "they're coming out of thin air."

SPEED (see also under Agility and Deflection)

Fights Taskmaster, parts 1 and 2, at least in part by out-speeding him

One-shots each of the Four Winds (dodges speedy throwing stars)

Elektra stabs snake in the desert while almost dead

Elektra races around killing soldiers from different angles while almost dead, and with great stealth

Hunts down rich dude (speedily invades compound)

Gets from behind couch, throws ashtray to disarm, stops dart with book, takes two robots down, all before they can react.

Fights Iron Man 2099. Dodges a blast while he comments on her speed.

Described as "fantastically quick, and inherently dishonest, feinting and faking."

An ex-SHIELD agent says, "She's fast."

Ninja notes her speed twice

Wolverine, who has enhanced speed, comments, "Man, she's fast."

She runs a fair distance from an ex-SHIELD agent she beat up then climbs a 4-story building in what is clearly a very short time: one, two

Repeatedly strikes feral Wolverine without being hit in return, or leaps past him without being hit: one, two, three, four

Steals Northstar's body from under the noses of Iceman, Polaris, and Dani Moonstar so fast they barely even register it ("What the hell was that?"): one, two, three

Knocks a guy out via nerve strike, and disarms him, in mid-sentence.

Has a psychic conversation with Gorgon "at the speed of thought," before SHIELD agents are able to react: one, two

Catches knife

Catches knife from Skrull

Catches an arrow at 12, semi-confirming a similar scene in Assassin about catching a bird in flight.

Catches Punisher's thrown knife, says she can do this all day

Outruns Punisher to a tree, even though he started out closer

Runs through a group of guys faster than they can finish a sentence

Says she's faster than Cape Crow

Takes the Punisher's gun from him without his noticing until she points it out, while standing several feet away (MAY be a chi feat)

Various examples of Elektra blitzing through guards at high speeds

Defeats several agents before they get off a shot. (Assassin)

She knocks away a gun that was pointed at her head before he can shoot. (Assassin)

She can catch a bird in flight as a child. (Assassin)

Here she swings a sword faster than a camera can record, and kills four SHIELD agents in 2 seconds. (Assassin)

Here she kills six agents in six seconds. (Assassin)

Here she quickly punches a guy’s nose into his head and then breaks another guy’s arm more quickly than Garrett can see—while underwater. (Assassin)

Storms a militia camp. Blitzes two guards right in front of the child leader without him seeing her, then kills three in one run, looking like a blur without them being able to react. Then starts killing and intentionally scaring off the rest of the pretty huge army, being able to kill handfuls at a time without them reacting. By morning they are all dead or run off.

With a bullet wound to her shoulder, she still manages to climb a wall faster than they can keep track of her with a spotlight.

AGILITY (see also Dodging)

DODGING

DEFLECTION (also often examples of Weapons Control)

ENDURANCE/DURABILITY

Ignores deadly wound from magical ice sword, says she heals quickly

Elektra kills numerous soldiers in the desert while almost dead from exposure, dehydration, snake venom

Wolverine and Elektra fights vs Shikaru the Mute (fights against creature who KOs Wolverine)

Fighting with Drake (fights for 6 hours)

Is punched a long distance by a giant robot and is fine (and able to dodge attacks right after)

When she finds out Lady Bullseye can become incorporeal, she lets her stab her in the abdomen with a giant longsword, moving her body so all the important organs are out of the way. She seems completely fine after this, and even goes on to easily defeat Jack O'Lantern, Tiger Shark, and Whiplash, and then kill the leaders of the Assassins Guild as if she is completely uninjured. I need to emphasize that no matter how you move your organs out of the way, being stabbed completely through your abdomen should be a lethal injury, the fact that not only did she survive this at all, but acted as if she was totally fine, is an amazing feat of durability, not to mention pain tolerance.

An enhanced Bullseye beats her down, to the degree that she can't move, her skull is broken, she has a brain hemorrhage, and is blind in one one, and eventually needs a steel plate in her head. This is the definition of beaten beyond the ability to fight. And then (full fight including getting hurt) she gets up out of pure willpower and beats the crap out of a bunch of Hand, their magical leader, and Bullseye.

Tanks a hit by the clawed and extremely super-strong Bloody Lips (seems to be unaffected by it later)

Is blasted three times by a Skrull with Cyclops powers and while hurt is still able to kill it.

Bulletproof when so desired: She deflects a bullet with the back of her hand—and moves fast enough to intercept it, for that matter, in a clear bullet-timing example. (Assassin)

She manages to hang on to a helicopter while it’s hit by a rocket. Then it’s hit by another direct hit, crashes, and she’s largely fine (I didn’t show the repercussions, but she basically just gets up). (Assassin)

After Perry breaks her leg and partially breaks her spine, she still ends up defeating him (the fingers through the brain scan above). (Assassin)

CONTROL OF BODY

ARTISTIC APTITUDE AND INTELLIGENCE

STRENGTH

STRIKING POWER

Vs Daredevil: hits him hard enough to almost take his head off;kicks him hard enough to kill him if she didn’t pull it

Breaks through 7 concrete blocks

Kicks a van door off

Deforms thick steel door, curving it inward

Breaks Hulkbuster armor with her hands

Kicks down a brick wall

Knocks two multi-ton rock monsters off a ledge with one kick.

Punches through a guy and the wall behind him (possibly my favorite of the various times she has punched through people)

Punches through guy and pulls out his heart

From Elektra Lives! (non-canon, but fun for continuing the theme): punches all the way through a ninja's chest

Stabs through two Hand with a blunt pipe

Casually embeds a sword into brick

Rams a blunt pipe all the way through Paladin

Punches through Arcade's escape sphere

Throws some SUPER-SMALL medical parts at Night Nurse's knee hard enough to knock her down (one, two)

Slices through a grenade

Cuts through metal twice

Stabs through the back of a movie seat (including the hilt bars of the sai): one, two

Stabs into Red She-Hulk

Elektra stabs Hulk in the eyes, clearly piercing his eyes with her sai.

She crushes a guy’s skull, or at least his jaw. (Assassin)

Stabs through a guy’s throat and “her fingers cut the floor” while she is in terrible shape. (Assassin)

In the same context, she crushes a skull, likening it to an eggshell, and also crushes a throat. (Assassin)

In the same context, she “shoved her hand through a guard—punched holes in a surgical team—left a doctor with two scalpels in his eyes.” (Assassin)

Breaks through a door. (Assassin)

While being tasered, she is still strong enough to punch through a guy’s body armor—not just his body—and was reaching for his heart. (Assassin)

Her punch is likened to being hit by a Mack truck. (Assassin)

She pulls out a guy’s heart. (Assassin)

Cuts the head and hand off Perry, a nearly indestructible cyborg. (Assassin)

Worms her hand up through the inside of Perry's nearly indestructible head to destroy his brain. (Assassin)

Knocks out Morbius with double hits to the sides of his head with her sai handles. This era of Morbius has a significant healing factor, for instance being stabbed solidly through the torso by Stone, then being fine a few hours later.

Two different versions of a scene where she slices a guard's torso in half with a sai.

She rips some of the armor on this Hand armored suit ("Skriiiiip"), then pierces it and takes it down in one strategic hit. This armor is bulletproof.

ACCURACY/WEAPONS CONTROL

Disarms with a sai

Disarms a Hand with a shuriken

Elektra vs Shang-Chi: cuts head off fly

Pins Spider-God by the neck with sai

Throws sai into shuriken hole

Throws sai into cable from a distance

Throws sai into already-aimed pistol.

Throws a sai into a gun barrel (which she threw so hard the gun and hand then go through the guy's body armor and chest)

Throws a sai into one gun barrel while simultaneously disarming the other with a shuriken

Throws a sai into a gun barrel, which explodes, and then shoots the sai back at her where she catches it

Throws shuriken into camera from a distance while running

Throws sword across room to incapacitate robot.

Uses two ashtrays to disarm two guns from one robot (same fight as above).

Angry that she only hit 3 out of 4 small targets.

Hadn't missed a shot in five years.

Stabs the back end of a bullet with a sai to make it shoot at Bullseye

Chokes Paladin by spitting her tooth down his throat

This is an example of accuracy as well as speed: Deflects NUMEROUS continuous machine-gun-style shots from a giant robot.

Cuts a bullet in half that was fired by the highly-accurate Black Widow from point blank range

Able to accurately throw some SUPER-SMALL medical parts at Night Nurse's knee (one, two)

Shoots down a flying capsule with an energy rifle while in a jetpack

Knocks a guy with with a thrown sai that rebounds off a wall

Cuts a guy's arms and legs off so they don't fall off, and he stays in one piece, alive, until he's touched--which would take incredible skill

Cuts the Architect in half without him knowing it

Flips over the running Nina (a ninja) and cuts her handband in half, without cutting her forehead at all--again, incredible weapons control

Kills four Hand hidden in the drapes with one toss of shuriken

Throws a sai into Ben Urich from across the street: one, two

She shoots a guy in the neck with a crossbow from several hundred yards away while she is on a carnival ride rotating one direction and the target is on a ride rotating the other direction. The narrator emphasizes the skill it takes to do this. (Assassin)

While hanging upside down on a moving helicopter, she shoots another helicopter with a rocket launcher. (Assassin)

She shoots an arrow into a gun barrel. (Assassin)

After stealing SHIELD security details, she goes behind the wall where her target is sitting and stabs him through the heart (without any direct physical sensation of where he is).(Assassin)

Throws some shuriken to cut through a guy's flamethrower tubes.

Throws a cloud of shuriken to block a powered ninja's chi.

Throws an ungainly pair of garden shears into a guy's back.

HER SAI

Are booby trapped so they give a paralytic shock to anyone else but her (one, two)

Unlike normal sai, they usually have sharp edges (just a couple examples: they can cut through a grenade or cut a bullet in half [you can see the edge of the blade there], or effortlessly cut this guy's shirt)

Although sometimes, as seen here, they're pointy but do not have sharp edges.

UNUSUAL WEAPONS/WEAPONS KNOWLEDGE

NERVE STRIKES/BREAKS ETC.

FIGHTING SKILLS/SMALLER FIGHTS

Disarms with a sai

Beats Razorfist

Elektra and Daredevil vs American Samurai, 1 and 2

One-shots each of the Four Winds (including reflecting throwing stars at opponent)

Pulls out guy’s eyeball with little training

Defeats Dictator who has Scorpio Key

Fighting super-powered Hand ninjas

Elektra's fight with Tiger Shark in comparison with Spider-Woman vs Tiger Shark

Kills her sensei

Vs Herc and Zeus

One-shots two superhumans on Raft

Elektra and Shroud vs Purple Man

Elektra fights better than Wolverine vs the Hand (Wolverine favorably describes her fighting skills compared to his)

Both the Wolverine and Elektra fights against Shikaru the Mute (Elektra does better against Shikaru than Wolverine does on his first attempt, where Wolverine is completely beaten)

Vs Lyle possessed by the Beast (quickly defeats Hand’s champion)

Quickly kills 2 mobsters

Takes 6 alert and armed mobsters by surprise, kills them in the dark, then surprises and kills at least 4 more.

Defeats several more armed mobsters.

Vs Avery, a girl with Wolverine-style enhanced speed, strength, durability, and healing factor.

Defeats 3 of Arcade's card-themed super-strong robots.

Kills the "immortal" Greek-god-powered Medea.

Elektra kills some wanna-be assassins with advanced energy weapons with some sticks of bamboo.

Repeatedly strikes feral Wolverine without being hit in return, or leaps past him without being hit: one, two, three, four

Kills 24 supervillains in 24 hours

Stabs Wolverine in such a way that she knows it will take longer for him to heal and make it hard for him to fight back (as seen by the fact that he stays on the ground and she is up and about on the next page): one, two

Defeats at least 15 Hand while, as they point out, almost naked and unarmed.

Elektra beats up Paladin, despite starting out locked up, and being in terrible shape due to continuous torture by the Skrulls and HAMMER

Beats up a squad of HAMMER agents, with some aim dodging, despite being in terrible shape due to continuous torture by the Skrulls and HAMMER (as pointed out), and in the process then being shot twice and having her ankle broken. She also starts off with only a knife.

Beats up two ex-SHIELD agents, despite all the injuries listed immediately above, and again having only her basic hand weapons against machine guns and a rifle.

Has a psychic conversation while beating up some mobsters.

Has a psychic conversation while beating up some Hand.

Fights with a pipe in one hand and a sword in the other--two very differently-weighted weapons, with very different styles

Defeats a giant robot of Arcade's, starting out unarmed and eventually getting amped by Murderworld gear.

Defeats all the guards of SHIELD's best prison, just with paintball guns.

Beats a bunch of yakuza with Punisher.

Effortlessly beats Punisher in sparring while holding back.

Beats Punisher in fight and various challenges

Kills Kirigi, an immortal champion of the Hand (some background on him, and some more background)

Fights the Silencer (he has teleportation and intangibility powers and enhanced strength) and then she and Spider-man beat him in the rematch using strategy

Elektra kills numerous soldiers in the desert

Defeats two SHIELD Hulkbuster robots

A Chaste says "already, she is a mighty warrior" after only a year of training.

Quickly beats Boomerang and Bushwhacker at once

Blind fighting: Elektra and Shroud vs Purple Man (fights while in Darkforce as well as Shroud)

She precisely describes that an opponent has three possible kicks he can use, but he uses what she knows is the wrong one, showing her extreme level of skill/tactics. (Assassin)

Disarms Chastity after surviving a crashed helicopter. (Assassin)

Chastity confirms that Elektra has an “inhuman combat ability,” “an excellent sense of strategy,” and “paranormal powers.” (Assassin)

Here she quickly punches a guy’s nose into his head and then breaks another guy’s arm more quickly than Garrett can see—while underwater.(Assassin)

The Beast tries to kill her with its magic, but she resists and stabs it with a spear, temporarily defeating it. (Assassin)

Kills four heavily-armed mercenaries in 37 seconds, and uses poisoned shuriken.

At twelve years old, after only two years of martial arts training, she beats her sensei.

She gets out of the invulnerable Stone's grip by using a painful head butt and throw.

Beats 11 skilled martial artists she is training (off panel)

Quickly beats off attacks from the Chaste masters Flame, Star, and Claw.

A college-era Elektra brutally takes out five thugs, including throwing one guy at least 15' using only one arm, and potentially using one of her patented "punching through the body" techniques, given how the guy is bent over and bleeding from the stomach after she punches him in the belly, although that detail isn't clear.

BIGGER FIGHTS

First fight with Daredevil. She wins via prep, then throws sai into Ben Urich

Vs Daredevil in 2016 1, 2 (See above for context; he says he "survived that...barely") [I had the wrong link on here for ages, and just fixed it--SORRY!]

Fights Taskmaster, parts 1 and 2, now with more context

Elektra vs Shang-Chi

Fighting with Drake

Sparring with Drake

Elektra, Daredevil, Shang Chi, and Ghost Maker parts 1, 2, 3

Fights Wolverine in Redeemer: Main fight. Short interrupted fight later.

Spars Wolverine as she teaches him to raise himself from feral to samurai mind-set. She knows he is trying to trick her with his strategy; overall the fight is even.

Fights Wolverine in Enemy of the State. The fight starts with both of them knowing the other is there; there is no surprise. She incaps him with a nerve strike which he only gets out of due to an explosion, then strikes him again in such a way that it takes him a while to heal so that he is on the ground and she is up and about, and he comments on her speed and thinks that "another two seconds and I'm...", clearly implying "dead." Knowing he's going to lose, he runs off and decides to try to drown her, saying that's his "only way."

Elektra and Wolverine kill hundreds if not thousands of Hand. This is one of the most impressive fights against "fodder" that I've ever seen. Except they're not fodder, because these same Hand just defeated a Sentinel robot with just swords. Elektra clearly fights as well as Wolverine here, and in fact he would not have started the fight because he thought there were too many. (See post 23 above for estimates on their numbers).

In two parts (one, two) she brutally beats a bunch of Hand on jetpacks, plus two Hand that call themselves the "Sons of Death" and have magic powers. Then she steals their dragon.

In a montage, beats Blizzard, Crossbones, Whiplash, Shocker, Boomerang, Jack O'Lantern, Blackout, Whirlwind, and Tiger Shark in groups of ones and twos--all Iron Man, Spider-Man, Ghost Rider, Namor, and Captain America villains.

Beats Lady Bullseye in their first match.

She beats Lady Bullseye, who has been enhanced so she can become incorporeal. again.

She fights enhanced versions of Whiplash, Tiger Shark, and Jack O'Lantern all at once, and pretty much one-shots each of them. These are Iron Man, Namor, and Spider-man villains, and they've had their powers enhanced by the Assassins Guild. Also, this is pretty much right after she was stabbed in the torso by Lady Bullseye. How badly did she beat them? The League of Assassins said she "dropped them like prom dresses" and that their "new abilities didn't matter a lick."

Easily beats and almost solos the Serpent Squad (she gets a little help from Matchmaker): Black Mamba, Sidewinder, Death Adder, and Anaconda, the last two of which are physically very formidable, and Black Mamba has tough psychic powers.

Beats Cape Crow

Fights Bloody Lips the first time (interrupted by psychic attack on them both)

Beats Bloody Lips

Fights multiple Skrulls with super-powers. She kills three: one with martial arts skills with Ghost Rider powers; one with Wolverine powers; and one with Daredevil, Nightcrawler, and Cyclops powers. She is finally beaten by one with Invisible Woman, Colossus, and Thing powers.

Beats Silver Samurai

Fights Iron Fist to a draw until he unleashes a major chi explosion.

FIGHTS AGAINST BULLSEYE

Elektra has fought against Bullseye four times in canon. I will include all of them here for comparison's sake. She was killed by him the first time, and has roundly defeated him each time since then. In the most recent battle, he admitted that "you were always better than me, Elektra." And "Me in my prime, you in yours? You'd beat me, every day of the week and twice on Sunday. So there is no question that she is currently far superior to him.

(Any other fights between them are not canon, and are either alternate universe fights like Elektra Lives!, or they are actually the Skrull Pagon, such as the fight in the Murdock Papers arc in Daredevil vol. 2. The following four fights are the only canon fights.)

Fight One: She has the advantage over him (7 landed attacks against 4) until he throws a card at her throat, disabling her, and then kills her. So it's kind of a cheap-shot win. Here is Daredevil's fight against Bullseye right after for comparison (5 hits by Daredevil vs 2 by Bullseye, not counting any of the bullrushes since it's less clear who gets the advantage from them, before they get on the wire and Daredevil drops him. So about the same hit ratio).

Fight Two: He trains for months specifically to defeat her, aided by a group that gives him holograms of her to spar against and an extensive database on everything about her. He knows everything about how she moves and fights. In short he is as ready as he will ever be to fight her. He wins for a while, then she trounces him.

Fight Three: She has just escaped from a HAMMER Helicarrier. Immediately previous to this, she had been tortured by the Skrulls, and then HAMMER, for months each, with many narrative notes about how she is in terrible shape. She just woke up at Night Nurse's place, got shot at, and then fights Bullseye. He tricks her into getting poisoned, which he notes is so lethal a poison that he can't believe she can stand. Then she falls off a four-story building (height shown in another scene). Then, when he thinks he's got her, she gets the hell up and acrobatically flips over Bullseye and stabs him in the back, in a mirror of how he killed her, completely defeating him. He's almost dead and only rescued by an ambulance.

Fight Four: Bullseye has been magically enhanced by the Hand to become faster and stronger. He admits (see links above) that he could normally never beat her. But, with his enhancements, he does beat her to the ground, severely, so she's half blind and has brain and skull injuries. Then she get gets the hell up and shakes it off (like in the previous fight) and proceeds to beat a bunch of Hand, the magic-powered white and black Hand leaders, and Bullseye (using the magic black ninja's skull to remove Bullseye's Hand enhancements and super-age him) for a complete victory.

ESCAPE SKILLS/INFILTRATION

Elektra escapes strait jacket while drugged and brainwashed

Can slip out of a strait jacket even when in her Beast-mind-controlled semi-conscious state. (Assassin)

Successfully infiltrates SHIELD's best prison, just with paintball guns.

OTHER ABILITIES

STRATEGY/PREPARATION/LEADERSHIP

Elektra kills numerous soldiers in the desert (races around killing soldiers from different angles while almost dead, and with great stealth)

Hunts down rich dude (strategically takes him down over a long period)

Elektra vs Silencer 1 and 2 (figures out how to beat Silencer with magnets at same time as Spider-Man)

She has no doubt that she could kill 30 guards with automatic weapons if she did it alone, by stealth.

Elektra jumps out of a high-rise building’s window with a parachute.

5 minutes of prep is called “an eternity” for Elektra.

Leads an army of resurrected supervillains to successfully crash a helicarrier that was protected by Nick Fury and Wolverine: one, two, three

Reads Ulysses (one of the most complex works of Modernist literature) while simultaneously being involved in a SHIELD briefing

Fights strategically by disarming a Hand with a shuriken

Comes up with "three perfect ideas" for capturing Wolverine while in the middle of a fight

Teaches feral Logan back into a "samurai" level of mind again, preparing him to use strategy again after previously only being mindless; she knows that he is trying to trick her with the final "sword-sheathing" gambit.

When she fights Lady Bullseye, who has been enhanced so she can become incorporeal, she tricks her into becoming physical and intentionally lets her stab her in the abdomen in order to beat her!

Beats Cape Crow through prep (her sai are booby trapped)

Beats Bloody Lips by tricking him into absorbing her traumatic psyche

She and Spider-man beat the Silencer by noticing his weakness to magnetism

Beats Daredevil with a trap

Chastity confirms that Elektra has an “inhuman combat ability,” “an excellent sense of strategy,” and “paranormal powers.” (Assassin)

In an impressive example of psychological warfare, she kills a bunch of soldiers, making the rest of the very large militia to all run off during the night.

Using strategy, she pretends to be dead, then cuts through a major ninja’s throat using a bow string.

After stealing SHIELD security details, she goes behind the wall where her target is sitting and stabs him through the heart (without any direct physical sensation of where he is).(Assassin)

PERCEPTION

PSYCHIC/CHI/MAGIC POWERS

Makes a SHIELD agent think he killed her

Stealth on a jeep (disappears and reappears multiple times in plain sight)

Appearing and disappearing in front of Nick Fury and multiple SHIELD agents

Speaks to the dead on their plane

Resists Shatterhead's psychic powers.

Shields herself from Jean Grey's psi-probe (in circumstances where Jean's powers are a bit fuzzy from the environment)

Heals herself through meditation

Her SHIELD/HAMMER file says she has powers of "mind transference" and "possession" (in a reference to Elektra: Assassin)

Initiates a psychic conversation with Wolverine

Is able to quickly shake off the Hand's mind-control from her (second) resurrection. This mind control worked effectively for a very long time on Wolverine, getting him to carry out effective strikes on the Fantastic Four and X-Men, and was only able to be removed via intensive and lengthy official de-conditioning, despite his psychic defenses and healing factor. It also worked on hundreds of supervillains. One, two.

Has a psychic conversation with Gorgon "at the speed of thought," before SHIELD agents are able to react: one, two

Has a psychic conversation while beating up some mobsters.

Has a psychic conversation while beating up some Hand.

Resists Black Mamba's formidable powers, saying "no one can infiltrate my mind--when I'm prepared."

Chastity confirms that Elektra has an “inhuman combat ability,” “an excellent sense of strategy,” and “paranormal powers.” (Assassin)

She psychically visits Daredevil’s Beast-controlled mind and communicates with his true self.

Hears her parents’ conversation while in the womb.

Mind-controls several Hand very soon after joining the Hand.

Using her chi, she makes several stalactites fall off a cave roof.

Telepathically communicates with the Chaste, including Stick against his will. (Assassin)

She reads Stick’s mind without his permission at 12. This is again confirmed later in the series. Confirms Assassin’s similar scene.

Telepathically communicates with Garrett, a SHIELD agent she mind-controls. (Assassin)

When she has a vision of the Beast’s plans, she is able to send the vision “like a movie” to Garrett. (Assassin)

Switched places with Sandy, a girl in a coma. This meant BOTH inhabiting Sandy’s body with Elektra’s mind, AND making Elektra’s body look like Sandy. Eventually the Beast, the Hand’s super-powerful demon lord, helped Sandy, and Elektra was almost trapped in Sandy’s body. (This is just a selection of pages from a very long episode.) (Assassin)

Psychically kills Sandy, despite the Beast’s powers, and escapes.

Switches bodies/creates illusions around SHIELD agent Chastity McBryde. She made Chastity look like Elektra, so Garrett shot Chastity. Then they took “Elektra” into custody, did a bunch of tests, and only after a long time did they realize that it was actually Chastity, which shows the power of her illusions. (Assassin)

Confirmation of what happened while possessing/switching places with Chastity. (Assassin)

Creates a long-lasting mind control over Garrett (this is a non-sequential series of examples). (Assassin)

Confirmation that she can do mind control and hallucinations (Assassin)

Silent shout--a physical blast that can knock someone backwards and out. (Assassin)

She is captured by SHIELD and they try to read her mind with a machine. Instead she simultaneously mind-controls Garrett and probes their security details through the computer, learning everything she needs to know about SHIELD. (Assassin)

When she gets out, she kills the SHIELD agent using the machine through psychic feedback. (Assassin)

At the end of Assassin, she seems to switch the minds of Garrett and presidential candidate Ken Wind. Garrett then becomes president in Wind’s body. However, in Daredevil’s Fall from Grace arc, it turns out that she actually just created a permanent delusion in Garrett’s mind that he was president, and also imparted part of her own tainted soul into his body. (Assassin)

After stealing SHIELD security details, she goes behind the wall where her target is sitting and stabs him through the heart (without any direct physical sensation of where he is).(Assassin)

She pranks Garrett on multiple occasions, using mind-clouding psi powers and/or stealth. Here she shot his beer can, stole his pistol out of his shoulder holster, and took a gun out of the floor and made it fall apart when he picked it up without him knowing she was there at all. Here she steals his gun again. Here she plants drugs on him and steals his plane ticket—while he is specifically looking for her. (Assassin)

She telekinetically moves a roulette ball.

For context on what kinds of chi abilities the Hand have, here are some examples of the abilities of Hand ninjas Thought (a telepath), Pain (a little unclear, but it seems like his strikes cause added pain), and Shadow (stealth, doesn't reflect in mirrors).

DETERMINATION/INTENT/POWER OF MIND

REPUTATION

Scares Killer Shrike just by her presence

Gets Sidewinder to beg for mercy.

After killing more than 20 guards, the remaining few are surrender monkeys, giving up as she points her sai at them.

It costs $2 million per kill to hire her

Batroc says the price to pay a villain to fight Elektra is 1.5 times what it costs to fight Captain America

Made $400,000 a day when working for SHIELD

Respected by Wolverine 1, 2

She respects Wolverine and he respects her. He brings her to Silver Fox's grave, and she brings him to her home in Greece.

At the end of her fight with Wolverine in Enemy of the State, Wolverine clearly believed she was going to defeat him, saying, "Another two seconds and I'm--."

Wolverine thinks the only way he's going to beat her is to drown her. In other words he doesn't think he can win by fighting. If that doesn't work he has to hope he can run away: "Have to drown her. It's the only way. Hope it slows her down and gives me a head start at least." She clearly thinks she could beat him too: "You think a locked door is going to save you?"

Wolverine thinks she is the "world's greatest ninja" and also strongly implies that if she couldn't beat Gorgon, then he can't either ("what chance do you have").

Gorgon, who is a genius, and Elsbeth von Strucker, who is a genius, as well as Wolverine, want a new partner, and explicitly choose Elektra over Daredevil. (This is not due to her willingness to kill, as their mind control would make anyone willing to kill or fight their friends, as it did with Northstar and Wolverine.) So all these people think Elektra would be the most effective person in creating havoc in the world and attacking the world's super-teams and security forces. When they end up losing Wolverine but gaining Elektra, Gorgon and Elsbeth clearly consider it a net win, meaning they think she is better than Wolverine, despite the fact that he has been carrying out successful strikes against the Fantastic Four and X-men, and has had "half the the world's security forces on red alert."

Elektra and Wolverine vs Gorgon. While Elektra and Wolverine are thoroughly beaten, it is worthwhile to point out that Wolverine and SHIELD chose her to be his partner in this attempt out of all the other heroes in the world.

Even the Vatican will hire Elektra.

Punisher compliments her fighting style in many ways, saying he is outclassed.

Bloody Lips considers Elektra's blood (which he can use to copy her abilities) of greater worth than Lady Bullseye's (and seemingly anyone else's)

The Hand’s name for her is “Perfect Death"

Comic tagline is “World’s Most Dangerous Assassin” and "Most Dangerous Assassin in the World"

Nick Fury says Shang Chi is “at least her equal”

Is called an "Omega-level threat" to a helicarrier even while she is in terrible shape from extended torture from the Skrulls and HAMMER

Tony Stark, Director of SHIELD, calls her the "most dangerous assassin on the planet."

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#35 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

@ms-lola said:

This will remain one of the most glorious threads on this site. Thank you so much for all your hard work and dedication in showcasing my favourite comicbook character.

Thank YOU so much for the kind words. Knowing people enjoy it makes the time worthwhile.

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#37 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Post 34 has now been completed. It contains all the feats for the comics version of Elektra that are in this thread, as well as all the other feats I've collected for her that are not in this thread. This list will stay at post 34.

As I add more posts in the future, I will add their feats to post 34 so that it remains the comprehensive location for all feats. The individual posts will be the place to find the background and context for the feats that are collected in post 34.

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#38 Posted by dami24434 (4367 posts) - - Show Bio

bump.i feel her recent showings against iron fist is needed here too.

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#39 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

This will include several major updates, some recent, some from the past. (@dami24434, here you go)

(Feats from this post have been added to the main "collection of feats" post 38.)

An original sketch by Bill Sienkiewicz I got this year.
An original sketch by Bill Sienkiewicz I got this year.

ELEKTRA VS IRON FIST, DEFENDERS 7.

Elektra and Iron Fist fought for really no reason, but it was a pretty straightforward, serious fight, and a good comparison of their skills.

I think it was presented in such a way as to show that they were evenly matched. Overall, it gave a sense of tit for tat. However, at the end, Elektra seems to break his wrist, pushing Danny to react with a massive chi blast, knocking her out.

Given Danny’s conversation at the end with Daredevil, where Danny asked Matt why he didn’t help, it’s obvious that Danny was fighting with serious intent, albeit without his Iron Fist. Clearly Iron Fist would not have wanted help unless it would have been useful, which means that he was fighting as well as he could on his own.

For comparison’s sake, here is Iron Fist vs Shang-Chi, which took place only weeks earlier in Iron Fist 7. The fight has the same general sense of even-ness, although it is true that Danny does use his Iron Fist here (partially due to the greater stakes, as Shang-Chi was mind controlled). I’d also point out that Elektra and Shang-Chi don’t use their own chi/psi-abilities in their fights with Danny.

While the fight was generally even, Elektra did in fact have an edge when it came to connected strikes. Here's my count, including only strikes that connect, no blocks, misses, or catches:

Elektra kicks Danny

Danny kicks Elektra

Elektra knees Danny

Danny elbows Elektra

Danny punches Elektra

Elektra open-palms Danny

Elektra kicks Danny

Elektra punches Danny

Elektra grabs Danny in a head/neck hold

Danny pushes them both out through a window

Danny throws Elektra

Elektra locks his hand and kicks him (this one is possibly a missed kick, hard to visually interpret)

Danny throws Elektra

Elektra breaks TV on Danny

Elektra smashes Danny's head onto counter

Danny kicks Elektra off

Elektra kicks Danny

Danny kicks Elektra

They grab each other's hands

Elektra breaks Danny's wrist

Which I make 11 connected strikes to 8 in Elektra's favor (the grabbing hands I didn't count for either).

This fight compares well with her win and draw with Wolverine, her win over Taskmaster, her various fights with Daredevil where she has always ended up on top albeit usually with context/prep (here, here, here, here part one and part two, and her draw in a short sparring match with Shang-Chi, to show that she is among the elite of Marvel’s skilled combatants.

Also of note is her disappearing act over the edge of the building at the beginning of the fight.

ELEKTRA: ASSASSIN

I just wrote a blog post that assesses the canonicity of Elektra: Assassin. Long story short though, I think the evidence is on the side that it is canonical, or at least largely so. I have generally refrained from putting up Assassin scans on this thread in the past due to my concerns about its canonicity, and also because I wanted to be comprehensive instead of scattershot in reviewing all its feats. I finally went back and re-read it; having come down on the side of canonical, I am here presenting all the feats. However, I will write (Assassin) next to each one in the main “collection of feats” post 34, for those who are not convinced. If you do have arguments against its canonicity, I welcome them, but please make those arguments in the canonicity blog post, not here.

Striking Power:

Elektra has a number of high-end striking feats, including multiple examples of her signature punch through the body.

Here she crushes a guy’s skull, or at least his jaw, hard to tell.

Here, in a situation where the Beast has removed her memory and is making her insane, and she doesn’t have conscious awareness of her skill, she still stabs through a guy’s throat and “her fingers cut the floor.”

In the same context, she crushes a skull, likening it to an eggshell, and also crushes a throat.

She “shoved her hand through a guard—punched holes in a surgical team—left a doctor with two scalpels in his eyes.” This is from the same episode as the two above feats, and reinforces what she did there.

Breaks through a door that Garrett had reinforced to keep her in.

While being tasered, she is still strong enough to punch through a guy’sbody armor—not just his body—and was reaching for his heart.

Her punch is likened to being hit by a Mack truck. It also notes that she has defeated several agents before they got off a shot.

She pulls out a guy’s heart.

She has some great cutting feats against Perry, a cyborg. See here for details on him first. These scans (which are not sequential, but taken from throughout the book) emphasize his extremely high durability and “unprecedented destructive power.” He survives a helicopter crash, being set on fire, and being shot with no problem. He is then firebombed by air with no problem. He is described as fireproof, bulletproof, and shock proof. He has all kinds of built-in weapons and sensors. He is again shown being shot by guns and shot with an arrow with no problem. He is hit by a helicopter and crashed into a building. SHIELD, in trying to destroy him, brings a massive tank in the hopes it can damage him.

Despite all that durability, she is able to cut Perry’s head off with a sword—a good sword, but a normal sword. The text emphasizes: “Elektra cut through the toughest alloys SHIELD could make—with a god damned samurai sword.” She then cuts off Perry’s hand as well. Then, she manages to worm her hand up through the inside of his head to destroy his brain for a very slow-action kind of “striking power.”

Accuracy/skill:

Durability:

Bulletproof when so desired: She deflects a bullet with the back of her hand—and moves fast enough to intercept it, for that matter, in a clear bullet-timing example.

She manages to hang on to a helicopter while it’s hit by a rocket. Then it’s hit by another direct hit, crashes, and she’s largely fine (I didn’t show the repercussions, but she basically just gets up).

After Perry breaks her leg and partially breaks her spine, she still ends up defeating him (the fingers through the brain scan above).

Speed:

Psychic Powers:

Elektra’s psychic/chi/magic powers have always been a matter of some debate. You can see the blog post on canonicity for this. But suffice to say, she has shown regular use of paranormal powers for decades, although their specific effects have varied.

She has been able to communicate telepathically since she was an early teen. Here she communicates with the Chaste, including Stick against his will, and here we see her communicating with Garrett, a SHIELD agent she mind-controls.

When she has a vision of the Beast’s plans, she is able to send the vision “like a movie” to Garrett.

She switched her mind and/or body with people twice. First she switched places with Sandy, a girl in a coma. This meant BOTH inhabiting Sandy’s body with Elektra’s mind, AND making Elektra’s body look like Sandy. Eventually the Beast, the Hand’s super-powerful demon lord, helped Sandy, and Elektra was almost trapped in Sandy’s body. However, she then managed to psychically kill Sandy, despite the Beast’s powers, and escape. (This is just a selection of pages from a very long episode but it should get the point across.) Then she did essentially the same with SHIELD agent Chastity McBryde. She made Chastity look like Elektra, so Garrett shot Chastity. Then they took “Elektra” into custody, did a bunch of tests, and only after a long time did they realize that it was actually Chastity, which shows the power of her illusions.

Most importantly in this series, she is able to create a long-lasting mind control over Garrett (this is a non-sequential series of examples). She makes him do all kinds of things subconsciously, and also overtly against his will, eventually turning him into what he admits is her slave.

This scan confirms that she can do mind control and hallucinations, and this one confirms what happened while possessing/switching places with Chastity.

Elektra and the Hand can make a “silent shout.” (Lots of people call this the “silent scream,” but it’s “shout.”) This creates a physical blast that can knock someone backwards and out.

Her psychic powers also extend to reading computers’ information. Here she is captured by SHIELD and they try to read her mind with a machine. Instead she simultaneously mind-controls Garrett and probes their security details through the computer, learning everything she needs to know about SHIELD. When she gets out, she kills the SHIELD agent using the machine through psychic feedback, which is the second example of her being psychically lethal.

At the end of Assassin, she seems to switch the minds of Garrett and presidential candidate Ken Wind. Garrett then becomes president in Wind’s body. However, in Daredevil’s Fall from Grace arc, it turns out that she actually just created a permanent delusion in Garrett’s mind that he was president, and also imparted part of her own tainted soul into his body.

After stealing SHIELD security details, she goes behind the wall where her target is sitting and stabs him through the heart (without any direct physical sensation of where he is). This is probably a combination of accuracy, prep, and paranormal sensing.

Similar to some modern examples where she steals things without people knowing, which seem to be due to either mind-clouding psi powers, extreme stealth and speed, or both together, she pranked Garrett on multiple occasions. Here she shot his beer can, stole his pistol out of his shoulder holster, and took a gun out of the floor and made it fall apart when he picked it up without him knowing she was there at all. Here she steals his gun again. Here she plants drugs on him and steals his plane ticket—while he is specifically looking for her.

Who is Garrett?

A lot of these scans show her taking advantage of Garrett. Just to show that he’s not a moron, here’s some descriptions of him by an agent that hates him but still respects him: “superlative physical skill and combat ingenuity…excellent marksman, and unusually adept with agency technology…an exceptionally capable operative.” “His skills are those of a first-rate field agent.” Garrett is also a cyborg with enhanced strength and durability.

Vs the Beast:

The Beast tries to kill her with its magic, but she resists and stabs it with a spear, temporarily defeating it. It should be emphasized that the Beast is quite powerful (recall its possession of Daredevil in Shadowland, or Daredevil’s recent visit to China to rescue Blindspot, or Elektra’s battle against it in Glimpse and Echo).

Random skills:

She can make a healing poultice from jungle ingredients, run across the snow without leaving a trace, and can slip out of a strait jacket even when in her Beast-mind-controlled semi-conscious state. She is somehow able to breathe underwater and gave Garrett the same ability.

SOME OTHER OLDER COMICS

Here are a number of feats from various older comics.

Elektra: Root of Evil

Root of Evil is a relatively early miniseries for her, and generally feels pretty Assassin-ish in the way she uses her psychic abilities.

She runs on the snow without a mark at the age of 12, confirming Assassin’s similar scene.

She reads Stick’s mind without his permission at 12. This is again confirmed later in the series. So she is not only telepathic, but a stronger telepath at 12 than a mature Stick. Confirms Assassin’s similar scene.

Catches an arrow at 12, semi-confirming a similar scene in Assassin about catching a bird in flight.

She seems to have had psychic powers even as an infant, hearing her parents’ conversation while in the womb. This implies she didn’t gain all her powers from Hand training, but some of it was innate.

Mind-controls several Hand very soon after joining the Hand.

Using her chi, she makes several stalactites fall off a cave roof.

Holds on to stalactites, without sliding off, for a while, pretty serious grip strength.

Using strategy, she pretends to be dead, then cuts through a major ninja’s throat using a bow string.

Beats Takegi using strategy, poisoning her armor so they are both poisoned, then has a friend heal her. Also, she attacks nerve points.

Perception—she notes the time it takes for fly eggs to be laid on a body.

Shadowland arc

She psychically visits Daredevil’s Beast-controlled mind and communicates with his true self.

Elektra 1, 2001

Elektra 30, 2004

Disguises herself as a teen Asian girl, which is persuasive enough that it holds up when a guy grabs her face and looks closely.

Storms a militia camp. Blitzes two guards right in front of the child leader without him seeing her, then kills three in one run, looking like a blur without them being able to react. Then starts killing and intentionally scaring off the rest of the pretty huge army, being able to kill handfuls at a time without them reacting. By morning they are all gone. This is an impressive example of both directly slaughter and psychological warfare. When the official army comes in to clean up, they say “even a squadron couldn’t cause this much carnage.”

Daredevil, Fall from Grace arc

Knocks out Morbius with double hits to the sides of his head with her sai handles. This era of Morbius has a significant healing factor, for instance being stabbed solidly through the torso by Stone, then being fine a few hours later.

MAJOR TAKEAWAYS FROM ALL THIS

Equal fight with Iron Fist, sans the use of chi

Extensive use of psychic powers in Assassin and Root of Evil, including mind control, illusions, body-switching, telepathy, telekinesis (the stalactites), and silent shout.

Multiple faster than the eye speed feats.

Multiple impressive striking and cutting feats, including a variety of punching through the body hits, as well as cutting apart the super-durable cyborg Perry.

Good disguise skills.

Multiple uses of very effective strategy and tactics.

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#40 Posted by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Please note that I've updated the MCU Elektra post (post 26) to now include the Defenders show.

Here are some random older scans from Root of Evil and Shadowland that I didn't have before. They are also incorporated into the "all scans" post (post 34).

Kills four heavily-armed mercenaries in 37 seconds, and uses poisoned shuriken.

Throws some shuriken to cut through a guy's flamethrower tubes.

Disappears directly in front of Daredevil and his enhanced senses. A lot of her previous cloakings/disappearances/surprising with Matt have involved Matt being sick, or not having his radar (the one other example where she straight up said she could get past his senses was the Skrull Pagon). This one is Matt in perfect condition, with the narration even specifically noting that his enhanced senses can't find her.

At twelve years old, after only two years of martial arts training, she beats her sensei.

She gets out of the invulnerable Stone's grip by using a painful head butt and throw.

Disappears in front of a guy at a casino.

While it's ambiguous, given that Root of Evil focuses a lot on her use of chi, including her telekinetically pulling down stalactites, I interpret this scan to mean that she telekinetically moves the roulette ball in the last panel.

Beats 11 skilled martial artists she is training (off panel).

Deflects a shuriken with her sai back at the thrower.

As a confirmation of the Hand and Chaste's mind powers in general, Master Izo, who is hundreds of years old and was a member of the Hand and founder of the Chaste (and trainer of Lady Bullseye), notes that he can use sense-clouding.

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#41 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

A collection of scans from random back issues, mostly from her second volume. This completes scans from all her solo volumes.

These scans are also incorporated into the "all scans" post (post 34).

Kills a bunch of guards without any of them firing a shot. (Some time passes between each of these 3 pages.)

Disappears out of an alley when she was just ahead of two guys.

With a bullet wound to her shoulder, she still manages to climb a wall faster than they can keep track of her with a spotlight. This is kind of subtle, but consider that the guy moving the spotlight can't keep up with her.

Jumps out of a helicopter she crashes into a bunch of guards, dodging machine guns as she jumps. This was a relatively big jump.

Agile flipping around.

Flipping-around style fighting.

Even when massively sick (as seen in the double images in the lower panels), she can still agilely dodge close-range bullets. This whole arc is about how she has a deadly flu but doesn't realize it; she passes out seconds later, so dodging gunfire right beforehand is pretty solid.

Jumps over close-range pistol shot.

Tells Drake to slow down her heart to slow down poison; obviously Elektra thinks she could do the same thing.

Discusses an ancient martial artist, says she has the same abilities to increase his adrenaline for strength, control his endorphins to resist pain, and have total body control. This is just a statement, but it helps explain some of her abilities.

Two different versions of a scene where she slices a guard's torso in half with a sai. A nice striking feat--look at the angle of her sai, she's cutting through his whole body at running speed.

Throws a cloud of shuriken to block a powered ninja's chi. He's one of a group of ninja described as "chi batteries." He does regain his chi soon after.

Throws an ungainly pair of garden shears into a guy's back. I'm mostly impressed with the completely non-aerodynamic quality of the weapon, but she still throws it accurately.

Quickly beats off attacks from the Chaste masters Flame, Star, and Claw. These are three masters of the Chaste, they should be approximately equal to Stick.

This is just kind of funny. Drake gives her some sai, pointing out that they're blunt like real sai are supposed to be, but you can see right in the drawing that they're pointed. Then soon after, this guy cut's a guy's shirt with them effortlessly, showing how sharp they are.

Also just for context, here is Drake, who is somewhat above Elektra at this point, bending chain links into place with her fingers.

Also for context on what kinds of chi abilities the Hand have, here are some examples of the abilities of Hand ninjas Thought (a telepath), Pain (a little unclear, but it seems like his strikes cause added pain), and Shadow (stealth, doesn't reflect in mirrors).

EDIT: I've also redone the scans for her fight with Silver Samurai. I put the individual pages together in spreads, which was important since there were a lot of panels that crossed the spine, and I also cropped out the people talking on the TV above and below the fight (they're unrelated to the fight), so it's easier to concentrate on the fight itself. The art still sucks, but it should be a lot better reading experience now.

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#42 Posted by dami24434 (4367 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

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#43 Edited by Owie (7175 posts) - - Show Bio

Adding a few random scenes from some more old issues: Man Without Fear, Daredevil 375, Over the Edge 8, and one of the Chichester Daredevils, I think in the Tree of Knowledge arc, I forgot to note the issue number.

These have all been added to the "all scans put together" post (post 34).

Cold resistance

Elektra once again shows she has no problem wearing a bathing suit in freezing weather, even on top of the Empire State Building's antenna, where the height and wind would make it ridiculously freezing. But now we know it's not artistic laziness! In this case, she expressly says she is used to the cold, likely due to her training with the Chaste on their mountain.

Leaping ability and athleticism

Speaking of being on the antenna of the Empire State Building, she then leaps down from the antenna to the observation deck. This might not sound like a big deal, comics characters make big leaps all the time right? Not like this. There are two levels of antenna, and two levels of observation deck (86th floor and 103rd floor). It can't be the 103rd floor (higher) observation deck, it doesn't have a tall fence, as you can see in the very last image on this link, while the deck she lands on does. The 86th floor deck does have a fence like in the drawing, so that's the one she lands on. There are two levels of antenna. Both thin down to a thinner section at the top, as you can see in the photos. But the lower section is pretty thick--way thicker than what she is standing on. So it must be the upper section of the antenna. Now, even if she jumped from the lower antenna to the 86th floor deck, she would be jumping 269 feet. But she's not, she jumping from the upper section of the antenna to the 86th floor, which is a whopping 315 feet down!!!!!!!! Even for a comic character this is off the hook.

Here's just one of many examples showing how Elektra's agility and overall athleticism are at least as good as Daredevil's, using parallelism to show equality. The fact that she's actually even better than him is made more clear here, where she's totally playing with him, and then even more so the following day (notice once again she's wearing scant clothing in the snow) when she jumps off this cliff, he confirms that she goes through the ice at the bottom, and then when he follows and looks for her, she's already back up at the top of the enormous cliff. Granted this is an early Matt--but then again it's also an early Elektra.

Stealth

Most of the scenes in the Death of Daredevil arc aren't valid, since it was all a dream of Daredevil's. BUT, here he says "she never makes any sound at all. Not unless she wants to." I'd argue that this one is in fact valid, since it's simply a statement of what Daredevil knows as a fact based on reality. In other words, he wouldn't just make this up for a dream, his dream self is thinking it because it's what his awake self knows. So--one more confirmation that she has complete control over her stealth.

But if that's not convincing enough, here she leaves Daredevil: "Then Elektra's gone, silent as she came. Her ninja ways invisible to even his senses."

Also, here she throws a sai as a calling card when she arrives; Daredevil notes that "her heartbeat caught my hypersensitive ear a split second before the sai found its mark." So once again she largely avoids his detection.

Incidentally, even standard Hand are great at stealth. Here, two ex-Hand members are amazed that a whole troop of Hand appear as if "they're coming out of thin air."

Striking power

Elektra first rips some of the armor on this Hand armored suit ("Skriiiiip"), then pierces it and takes it down in one strategic hit. How tough is this armor? Well, it's bulletproof. So her sai attacks are more piercing than bullets.

Dodging

Easily dodges projectile darts from that same armor. (Which is operated by a member of the Hand, so it should have excellent aim.)

Disguise

Elektra is also good at disguise. Here she disguises herself as a prison inmate so she can protect Karen Page over an extended period of time while Karen is on trial. She goes unrecognized by the prison officials or Karen.

Some classic fodder-izing

An early Elektra, when she's just started seeing Matt in college, brutally takes out five thugs, including throwing one guy at least 15' using only one arm, and potentially using one of her patented "punching through the body" techniques, given how the guy is bent over and bleeding from the stomach after she punches him in the belly, although that detail isn't clear.

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