Which Saiyans have the most potential?

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#1 Posted by thatduderox (309 posts) - - Show Bio

Cabbe, Kale, and Caulifla all have great potential. Vegeta noted himself that Cabbe's base level was near his own during the Champa Arc, and this was after Vegeta's training with Whis. Caulifla was able to unlock Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 within minutes of each other. And Kale's beserker mode shot her up to a level beyond's Caulifla's Super Saiyan 2.

All that being said, the Saiyan hybrids have all been stated to have enormous potential as well; more so than their full blooded Saiyan fathers. Gohan, Future Trunks, Trunks, and Goten all reached the Super Saiyan forms as children; though Goten and the current Trunks were much younger. We've also seen Gohan and Future Trunks power levels rise dramatically in Super, and they were able to do it in rapid time.

Out of these two groups; one being the Universe 6 Saiyans and the other being the Universe 7 Half Saiyans; who has the most potential?

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#2 Posted by Corvin123 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

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#3 Posted by Emanresu_20 (51 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparently Kale

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#4 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (3502 posts) - - Show Bio

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

I've read this kind of stuff multiple times, it makes no sense, Caulifla was among the 10 most powerful people of her WHOLE UNIVERSE, people talking about her like she was a chump are ignoring that fact altogether.

OT: Gohan has the most potential, use the plot Gohan use the plot!!

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#5 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

Hybrids.

-Saiyan Saga: Gohan in a year of training went from having a Power level of 1 to being even stronger than Raditz.

-Cell Saga: Training a year in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber, Gohan became the stronger Saiyan.

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#6 Posted by Corvin123 (360 posts) - - Show Bio

@corvin123 said:

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

I've read this kind of stuff multiple times, it makes no sense, Caulifla was among the 10 most powerful people of her WHOLE UNIVERSE, people talking about her like she was a chump are ignoring that fact altogether.

OT: Gohan has the most potential, use the plot Gohan use the plot!!

It is a fact dude. She got owned by Goku's base form because she was an amateur. Then she somehow ( cough cough) became a martial artist in an instant and went toe to toe with ssj2 Goku. Being in top10 means nothing. U7 has Roshi, Tien, Krillin... all of them are fodders. U10 considered to enter the tournament with regular body builders because they could not find 10 capable warriors in their whole universe.

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#7 Posted by Gaoron (3839 posts) - - Show Bio

Ones with highest number of midichlo... S Cells.

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#8 Posted by jaycool2 (8956 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron said:

Ones with highest number of midichlo... S Cells.

Dammit. I came to say that.

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#9 Edited by Lord_Spectrum (2265 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron said:

Ones with highest number of midichlo... S Cells.

So someone has read the translations. XD

May the Yamoshi be with you. :D

On topic: I think Gohan, the guy has ridiculous potentian and with minor training can achieve ridiculous power.

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#10 Posted by SladerAcer (236 posts) - - Show Bio

Future Trunks, he solo'd Black and Zamasu. Trunks came from an Apocalyptic worlds and most of the time it was him against the world. By Feats Trunks should take this but then again Kale did give Goku SSB the hands and made him break a sweat. MErged Zamasu was someone Goku nor Vegeta im SSB form could put down however they needed to bring out SSB Vegito. Trunks, by himself, put up a decent fight against a merged Zamasu. Trunks has my vote here.

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#11 Posted by TheKinfing (9047 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: That still makes me cringe.

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#12 Posted by zoldycklogic (832 posts) - - Show Bio

Potentials =/= how fast one can grow. It's how much he can grow.

I guess Goku has the most potentials.

The best answer would be, no one knows

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#13 Posted by thatduderox (309 posts) - - Show Bio

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

Super has enough BS to pass around. It's hypocritical to call out Caulifla and Kale while ignoring that Trunks and Gohan not only rose to God tier, but did so without God ki, training from an angel, and did so in rapid time; Trunks in a couple of days, Gohan within the span of a training session with Piccolo. Just think about it. They went from Buu tier power levels to arguably achieving God Tier. We still haven't gotten and explanation for Super Saiyan Rage, or how Trunks not only learned the Spirit Bomb, bit learned to infuse it within himself, he also learned one of the most difficult techniques in Dragon Ball by watching on a phone. As well as his Super Saiyan 2 being able to go toe to toe with Black and Zamasu the entire arc. Super's whole foundation is PIS. The writers don't care about consistency, they care about selling merchandise. I don't see how people can call out Kale and Caulifla but ignore everything else in this series that makes no god damn sense.

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#14 Posted by password65 (188 posts) - - Show Bio

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

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#15 Edited by password65 (188 posts) - - Show Bio

Goten and Trunks.

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#16 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

True anwer

The main character of xenoverse, if is Saiyan.

--The guy/girl goes from being weaker than Raditz to being God level in the course of a single game.

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#17 Posted by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

I have really begun to hate the idea of "potential" in DBS .

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#18 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

I have really begun to hate the idea of "potential" in DBS .

In fact "potential" is a practically omnipresent in the Shonen.

A character just training can go from having trouble lifting a bike to being able to lift more than 1,000 tons.

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#19 Posted by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

@camilopezo: That's exactly why I dislike it . Its a plot device . For Example , Goku had to train for years to master SSb , and Gohan reached that amount of power after training for less than a day because he has this "potential" .

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#20 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

@camilopezo: That's exactly why I dislike it . Its a plot device . For Example , Goku had to train for years to master SSb , and Gohan reached that amount of power after training for less than a day because he has this "potential" .

In fact that exaggeration is due to Super.

Gohan has always had potential, but to unblock it, generally he took a hard training or an external buff.

--Gohan needed 1 year to get over Raditz.

--Gohan need help from the Guru to get 15,000

--Gohan need enter Hyperbolic Time Chamber to be as strong as his father.

--Gohan need help from the old kai to get stronger than Super Buu.

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#21 Posted by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

@camilopezo:

Gohan had his potential unleashed in DBZ . I don't understand why they are still using that as an excuse .

And Gohan moved from SS2 levels at best to SSB levels in one-night . That's just crazy . In the previous powerups , he at least had some context or some hard training .

DBS straight up used his "potential" as an excuse for an undeserved power up.

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#22 Posted by LeonardoTMNT (2220 posts) - - Show Bio

@camilopezo: That's exactly why I dislike it . Its a plot device . For Example , Goku had to train for years to master SSb , and Gohan reached that amount of power after training for less than a day because he has this "potential" .

Goku achieved God status through a ritual though, he didn't train at all for that. Pretty comparable to Gohan getting his mystic form.

The only one who deservingly reached God levels was Vegeta, (and Frieza to a far lower extent).

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#23 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (3502 posts) - - Show Bio

@camilopezo:

Gohan had his potential unleashed in DBZ . I don't understand why they are still using that as an excuse .

And Gohan moved from SS2 levels at best to SSB levels in one-night . That's just crazy . In the previous powerups , he at least had some context or some hard training .

DBS straight up used his "potential" as an excuse for an undeserved power up.

Why do ppl keep saying this? He hasn't shown to be on this level, final form Frieza was shown to be above him during Gohan's fight with the random Yardat

SSB = Golden Frieza > Final Form Frieza > Gohan

Gohan hasn't shown to be close to God level yet.

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#24 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (3502 posts) - - Show Bio

@trololololol said:

@camilopezo: That's exactly why I dislike it . Its a plot device . For Example , Goku had to train for years to master SSb , and Gohan reached that amount of power after training for less than a day because he has this "potential" .

Goku achieved God status through a ritual though, he didn't train at all for that. Pretty comparable to Gohan getting his mystic form.

The only one who deservingly reached God levels was Vegeta, (and Frieza to a far lower extent).

What? Vegeta had help from an Angel to reach God level, Frieza only had a talking punching bag, he deserves it more!

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#25 Posted by NeoNazi (34 posts) - - Show Bio

@thatduderox:

Cabbe, Kale, and Caulifla all have great potential. Vegeta noted himself that Cabbe's base level was near his own during the Champa Arc, and this was after Vegeta's training with Whis. Caulifla was able to unlock Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan 2 within minutes of each other. And Kale's beserker mode shot her up to a level beyond's Caulifla's Super Saiyan 2.

All that being said, the Saiyan hybrids have all been stated to have enormous potential as well; more so than their full blooded Saiyan fathers. Gohan, Future Trunks, Trunks, and Goten all reached the Super Saiyan forms as children; though Goten and the current Trunks were much younger. We've also seen Gohan and Future Trunks power levels rise dramatically in Super, and they were able to do it in rapid time.

Out of these two groups; one being the Universe 6 Saiyans and the other being the Universe 7 Half Saiyans; who has the most potential?

Superman

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#26 Posted by deactivated-5a2b0053414c5 (8165 posts) - - Show Bio

@corvin123 said:

You mistook potential with PIS. Caulifla and Kale were nothing but tools to bring out UI the second time.

Caulifla became a martial artist like Goku from brawler in seconds. She just pulled the necessary techniques and decades of experience out of her ass just because. This is not potential, this is PIS.

Super has enough BS to pass around. It's hypocritical to call out Caulifla and Kale while ignoring that Trunks and Gohan not only rose to God tier, but did so without God ki, training from an angel, and did so in rapid time; Trunks in a couple of days, Gohan within the span of a training session with Piccolo. Just think about it. They went from Buu tier power levels to arguably achieving God Tier. We still haven't gotten and explanation for Super Saiyan Rage, or how Trunks not only learned the Spirit Bomb, bit learned to infuse it within himself, he also learned one of the most difficult techniques in Dragon Ball by watching on a phone. As well as his Super Saiyan 2 being able to go toe to toe with Black and Zamasu the entire arc. Super's whole foundation is PIS. The writers don't care about consistency, they care about selling merchandise. I don't see how people can call out Kale and Caulifla but ignore everything else in this series that makes no god damn sense.

This

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#27 Posted by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: Gohan held his own quite well against Goku . Infact , he landed more blows on Goku than Goku on him .

As for the Frieza fight , they were both holding back .

The yadrat fight wasn't about power . It was to show that Gohan was relatively inexperienced and can't think like a warrior .

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#28 Edited by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

@LeonardoTMNT: Yes , it was a ritual. It had context . That's why you can't call it an asspull . Gohan's powerup was . He achieved God level power in one night while training with PICCOLO. No ritual , no hard training , no Godly guidance , and yet extreme power came his way . That's really silly. If the creators really did want Gohan to have a powerup , they could have at least done something like send him to the RoSaT .

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#29 Posted by DJudgment (323 posts) - - Show Bio

@LeonardoTMNT: Yes , it was a ritual. It had context . That's why you can't call it an asspull . Gohan's powerup was . He achieved God level power in one night while training with PICCOLO. No ritual , no hard training , no Godly guidance , and yet extreme power came his way . That's really silly. If the creators really did want Gohan to have a powerup , they could have at least done something like send him to the RoSaT .

If i remember correctly he got one shotted by Blue?

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#30 Posted by Trololololol (141 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: He got one-shotted by SSB Kaioken . It may have been times 10 or even 20 since Gohan was forcing Goku to show his full power.

Gohan against Normal SSB Goku was fine , and even landed more blows on Goku than Goku did on him .

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#31 Posted by ad-arts (1231 posts) - - Show Bio

All wrong... Goku has most potential.

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#32 Posted by DJudgment (323 posts) - - Show Bio

@djudgment: He got one-shotted by SSB Kaioken . It may have been times 10 or even 20 since Gohan was forcing Goku to show his full power.

Gohan against Normal SSB Goku was fine , and even landed more blows on Goku than Goku did on him .

After refreshing my memory, you are correct he got one shotted by SSB KK ! We don't actually know how big the multiplier was so don't want to start throwing numbers about.

Gohan and SSB Goku had the total of 4/5 blows overall ? Since when has that been regarded as a full fight, and Gohan just moaned at Goku seconds before to get serious? And landing 3 out of a total of 5 blows isn't exactly a huge feat. I think that's been taken way to seriously and critically.

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#33 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts: Nope.

Gohan >> Not God Goku

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#34 Posted by jplaya2023 (473 posts) - - Show Bio

half saiyan potential >>>u6 saiyan potential >>>> full blooded U7 saiyans potential

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#35 Posted by ad-arts (1231 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts: Nope.

Gohan >> Not God Goku

Goku has and always had most potential. This is why Goku is the top dog.

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#36 Edited by MainJP (2143 posts) - - Show Bio

Whichever one gets the most screentime.

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#37 Posted by Ryokuma100 (726 posts) - - Show Bio

If Trunks can go from SS2 to a level close to or around God level in a matter of days, then I'd say Gohan has the most potential.

If not Gohan, then I'd say Goten personally due to his young age and the ability to train longer at a higher state if he chooses to.

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#38 Posted by Alsimmons77 (255 posts) - - Show Bio

Gohan probably with Caulifla as very close second, Kale could be actually Nr 1 but is hard to gauge.

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#40 Posted by camilopezo (931 posts) - - Show Bio

@ad-arts: Goku without ki Divine is weaker than Gohan.

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#42 Posted by Ryokuma100 (726 posts) - - Show Bio

@ryokuma100:

Trunks' powerup was an asspull.

I know, just going off the asspull and relating it to every other Saiyan. With how DBS writers are thinking, I don't put nothing pass them

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#43 Posted by Jgames (6697 posts) - - Show Bio

Trunks or Caulifla. Caulifla actually want to learn, and it seem their Asian race can achieve new form quickly if given the right knowledge.

Trunks to be fair did train with Vegeta before he got the power level, even though they did not focus on it and would have been an easy way to to explain the new form................

Gohan because his writing was excellent and felt earn and not people being lazy at even explaining the freaking asspull God dammit.

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