Tao pai pai respect thread

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#1 Edited by APEX_pretador (20276 posts) - - Show Bio

Tao pai pai is the greatest assasin in the world, and is closer to powerhouse tier than mid tier, like many DB characters.

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Strength:

He killed general blue with HIS TONGUE.

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The same general blue survived this thing without much injury

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He killed bora easily.

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Bora can survive tank HUGE machineguns without scratch

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Which means he could throw the spear at massively faster speed than even machineguns, with so much force that th spear penetrated into someone who couldn't even be scratched by machineguns.

Breaks a pillar with one finger:

Throws it at a speed that he can go 2300 km and come back in 30 minutes.

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(feat calculation)

Tao pai pai = 1.72m , the pillar is about 1.8x his height = about 3 m.

The relative diameter is about 1/6 of the length of pillar = 0.5 m

Volume = 0.607 m^3 , mass ~= 1.51 ton + 0.07 ton (tao) = 1.58 ton

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Horizontal speed = 2555.56 m/s

Speed needed = 3614 m/s (absolute minimum)

Energy ~= 1.03 x 10^10 J ,

equivalent of lifting 800,000 TONS overhead

But , remember that:

He did it twice = 2.06 x 10^10 J

He did it casually-one handed.

He still had most of his energy left intact , in which he used dodonpa against goku. Even after including all this, he wasn't a bit tiredSo, he must have ATLEAST half of his energy still remaining after the battle. Also, common logic indicates that dodonpa's energy > Pillar's energy.

So:

E = 8.2 x 10^10 J (ATLEAST)

This is equivalent to being able to lift 5,000,000 tons off the ground to over his head. However, he will nearly die in using that much power.

Speed:

He can operate in atleast low milliseconds, if not better.

Krillin was already operating in high milliseconds at 21st TB , & general blue was faster than him.

Goku was a good bit faster than general blue, and he couldn't touch tao.

His pillar jumping reaction feat

He jumped on pillar before it traveled a few dozen m. This gives his reaction time at less than a few milliseconds, and possibly microseconds.

Combat speed:

He threw pillar at ATLEAST 3614 m/s

He jumped on the pillar at atleast 2x the speed pillar was going (otherwise he may not be able to catch it)

Combat speed >= 7200 m/s ~= 26,000 km/h

Durability

He tanks a kamehameha

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Durability : can tank possibly mid mountain level without much effort.

Energy output:

According to roshi , dodonpa > regular kamehameha , and this is tao's dodonpa.

Also , since tao is stronger than (pre karin) goku , it is pretty fair to say that tao's dodonpa > goku's KHH

Energy output : possibly mid - high mountain level

CYBORG TAO:

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Krillin himself says that tao pai pai is stronger than ever. So, Tao pai pai can now exert physical force much higher than 5 million tons

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He is confident to beat Tien , and so is his brother Tsuresenin (master shen in dub) , who knows how strong was tien back then. Indicates Cyborg tao > 22nd TB tien

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Tao says tien has gotten better than before , but this means he knew how strong was he before, again implying that he > 22nd TB tien.

It's just too bad for him that tien has become incredibly , incredibly stronger.

Speed:

Obviously increased a good deal since his organic days.

As evident from above scans, he is most likely faster than 22nd TB tien , who is atleast 2x faster than organic tao.

Speed : >= 14,400 m/s ~= 52,000 km/h

Energy output:

He has super dodonpa:

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Just to mention the following points:

  • Master roshi destroyed moon at 21st TB with his super kamehameha
  • He then trained for 22nd TB , becoming massively stronger
  • Then he admits inferiority to tien, who wasn't even going all-out.
  • Then he says that a regular dodonpa >> regular kamehameha

From above points, we deduce:

  • Cyborg Tao is > 22nd TB tien > 22nd TB roshi > Moon blowing roshi
  • Super dodonpa >= Super kamehameha >> Moon

Energy output: Most likely moon + level

Durability :

unknown, mid mountain + level atleast

Debunking the lowballing:

1. Tao couldn't survive a bomb, how can he survive hits from the likes from the thing or collosus or anyone

The bomb was not a weak one. Given that his dodonpa was already capable of mid-high mountain power , and still failed to take goku out, but he believed that the bomb will do the trick , the bomb must be MUCH stronger than his best effort dodonpa

2. Tao as a cyborg has only low showings, he didn't do anything to put him above regular tao. He is actually weaker

Krillin said he was much stronger

Tsuresenin said he was much stronger

Tao said he was much stronger

Tao & Tsuresenin were confident that he will be able to take out tien (who has improved from 22nd TB) , and they both know tien's strength perfectly well. It is just sheer bad-luck for him that tien improved too much to rival goku.

He also has feats - he beat chaotzu incredibly worse (a weaker chaotzu could freeze 22nd TB goku)

3. Tao is not intelligent , & will lose by being dumb.

Tao never once showed being dumb. He is actually one of the most intelligent guys. He always had plans for back him up - like that sword and incredibly powerful bomb.

He hid a knife in his arms as he returned as a cyborg even though he was extremely powerful.

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#2 Posted by Thedarkpaladin (22886 posts) - - Show Bio

I've always wondered how Blue could survive a headbutt from Arale...

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#3 Posted by SoWhatsUp435 (340 posts) - - Show Bio

sooooo many respect threads i feel like we will eventually get "farmer with the gun respect thread"

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#4 Posted by JohnCena69swag (3871 posts) - - Show Bio

Note that he killed him by the blunt end, not sharp end.

It was actually the sharp end of the spear that killed bora.

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Other than that pretty good respect thread.

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#5 Posted by APEX_pretador (20276 posts) - - Show Bio

Note that he killed him by the blunt end, not sharp end.

It was actually the sharp end of the spear that killed bora.

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Other than that pretty good respect thread.

thanks for ointing out. I'll correct.

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#6 Posted by AlexTheBoss (17423 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice thread however I don't like to use calcs because I know Toriyama didn't think of things like that. However these are still impressive feats.

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#7 Posted by Gokurot (136 posts) - - Show Bio

In battle threads on other websites people always seem to ignore Taopaipai's obvious speed and power when they pit Dragon Ball Characters against other universes like Juan Piece, Detergent, and NAUTO like these guys who thought Doflamingo could easily beat Piccolo Daimao.

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#9 Posted by APEX_pretador (20276 posts) - - Show Bio
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#10 Posted by Sean12345 (440 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador:

Tao pai pai = 1.72m , the pillar is about 1.8x his height = about 3 m.

The relative diameter is about 1/6 of the length of pillar = 0.5 m

Volume = 0.607 m^3 , mass ~= 1.51 ton + 0.07 ton (tao) = 1.58 ton

Did you run a regression to get these stats? Nice thread btw!

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#11 Posted by APEX_pretador (20276 posts) - - Show Bio

@sean12345: Tap pai pai's height is used from guidebooks, and the size of pillar is calculated from approx pixel scaling from various pages.

Some approximation is made however.

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#12 Posted by Cull_Obsidian (3862 posts) - - Show Bio

@apex_pretador: great thread , he is such an underated character, I mean he travels on a pillar that he threw lol that's impressive

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