Which of these is true ?

He not only erased his own timeline's universe [all of time and matter gone ... ] , he also destroyed zamasu who was leaking into other timelines as well

What a great feat ...

@hypnos0929: He wouldn't have left his timeline if that was the case.

Neither, still powerful tho

@freshflintstone: Well definitely omniversal at least . He just wiped off his own timeline without any problem ...

well considering he doesn't exist as a single individual through all timelines he is definitely not omni

He's Multiversal+

He's just high level multiversal :D and still too powerful and that casually so far, we don't know full extent of his power, could there be one Zeno outside of all existence that rule all these Zenos? Maybe...

Neither.

Based on what?

@mysticmedivh:

Episode 67

@edbeatle: I'm guessing he didn't watch the episode.

Neither. As shown other versions of himself can exist some that don't even know who the hell or what has transpired. Future Zeno didn't know Goku and he didn't even know wth Zamasu was doing until he got there. Since there can be more than one existing Zeno isn't omniversal or even omnipresent.

@panda_emperorix: fixed it with spoiler block just in case then.

I'm guessing you don't know what multiversal is.

That makes him high multiversal how exactly?

Wiping out a small handful of universes is called multi-universal.

Multiversal refers to infinite universes.

So not only are you saying that Zeno is multiversal because he destroyed a couple of universes, but he's high multiversal? Something above destroying infinite universes?

Nonsense.

@mysticmedivh: So just because DBU has 12-18 Universes and Zeno only wiped them all , means he cant wipe off the same amount of universes as marvel has ??

Whats your logic based on ???

@dsb: Yes because he doesn't have feats beyond that. Or are you suggesting no limits fallacy?

@dsb: He thinks a planet buster is enough to kill Zamasu , ignore him

What's your logic based on?

We base things on feats, not fan speculation, assumptions, and wishful thinking.

By your logic, Green Lantern destroyed a planet with a blast. Why can't he destroy a trillion planets with a blast?

Because there's no feats to suggest he could. Why would we just assume he can destroy a trillion planets if at best we've seen him destroy just one?

@josephgomes619: Exactly that . Just because someone doesnt have a certain limit because the STORY limits him from that , doesnt mean it cant be done in another situation

He just Obliterated the ENTIRE Timeline dude .. That white void signifies that only .. Plus Herms confirmed that anyway ..

Who says Zeno already didnt destroy Trillions of planets ???

Do we even know how many Planets a DBU universe have ?

@mysticmedivh: You don't understand the term i think. Infinite number of Multiverses is the Omniverse so the terms would be interchangeable if that's the way you define the multiverse. Which is why multiple universes is a better term for multiversal

@dsb:

He just Obliterated the ENTIRE Timeline dude .. That white void signifies that only .. Plus Herms confirmed that anyway ..

That doesn't translate into being able to destroy infinite universes.

Who says Zeno already didnt destroy Trillions of planets ???

Reread my post. It looks like you didn't understand.

I used Green Lantern as an analogy in regards to your logic.

@freshflintstone

You don't understand the term i think. Infinite number of Multiverses is the Omniverse so the terms would be interchangeable if that's the way you define the multiverse. Which is why multiple universes is a better term for multiversal

A universe is a reality.

A multiverse is a collection of more than one or many universes, though a multiverse is usually infinite universes such as that in Marvel. However, not the case in Dragon Ball.

When we say someone or something is multi-universal, it means that they can affect more than one universe but less than infinite.

When a being is truly multiversal, it usually means they can affect infinite universes.

Now none of what I said is set in stone or absolute, but those are how the terms are usually used and applied in comic book forums and comic cosmology.

I dont understand what you are trying to say .

Green lantern busted a Planet with his Ring's power ... Why cant he just Trillions of Planet with the same power in his ring ? Is that what you are saying ?

Well first , GL destroyed a Planet and then his power ring's energy ended . Sure he can recharge his ring and blow up other planets , but he can bust one planet at one try ...

Zeno obliterated the entire Timeline without effort . Entire 12-18 Universes ... Instantly ...

Here's an Analogy for you ...

If i am extremely hungry ... yet i ate 3 Apples because i have only access to 3 apples only , does that mean i cant eat more apples ? just because i ate 3 doesnt mean my hunger is satisfied . I can eat as much as i want , till i lose my hunger

Similarly , Zeno can obliterate AS MANY Universes as he wants , as long as he's not limited by a certain amount ... and he actually has the power to destroy ALL universes he's given to destroy

@dsb

I dont understand what you are trying to say .

Green lantern busted a Planet with his Ring's power ... Why cant he just Trillions of Planet with the same power in his ring ? Is that what you are saying ?

Well first , GL destroyed a Planet and then his power ring's energy ended . Sure he can recharge his ring and blow up other planets , but he can bust one planet at one try ...

That's not true. Kyle destroyed Oa rather easily as a rookie Lantern and was completely fine afterwards. No problems.

Zeno obliterated the entire Timeline without effort . Entire 12-18 Universes ... Instantly ...

Again, just because he destroyed multiple universes does not mean he can destroy infinite universes.

The gap between 12 or 18 and infinity is infinite.

Similarly , Zeno can obliterate AS MANY Universes as he wants , as long as he's not limited by a certain amount ... and he actually has the power to destroy ALL universes he's given to destroy

Again, this is unproven by actual feats.

You're making assumptions.

Zeno plays clean up to a barren timeline devoid of life after Zamasu kills everything. Zeno is somehow omnipresent and omnipotent at the same time. Yet 2 zenos exist. An omnipresent Zeno would imply he knew everything transpiring in DBS. And that there is only one of him. At all times.

@mysticmedivh: Listen buddy ... just because comics have unlimited amount of Universes because they are on for DECADES , Dragon Ball Super isnt on for more than a year .

You stay with your feats , because you cant defeat my Apple logic which correctly lines up With Zeno's power

Zeno can destroy 12 universes because He has ONLY THAT MUCH to work with . If DBU had unlimited universes we would have seen a Zeno who can destroy Unlimited Universes ...



Its like arguing with a wall ... i give up

Oh yeah , and that PM battle ... Zeno f*cks Thanos IG or even HOTU thanos . End of story

@dsb

Zeno can destroy 12 universes because He has ONLY THAT MUCH to work with . If DBU had unlimited universes we would have seen a Zeno who can destroy Unlimited Universes ...

You can't prove that he can destroy an unlimited amount of universes.

Oh yeah , and that PM battle ... Zeno ***** Thanos IG or even HOTU thanos . End of story

Based on what?

Even if you want to assume Zeno can destroy an infinite amount of universes, Eternity is capable of doing the exact same thing, and Thanos already defeated him.

i give up

Sounds good to me.

Bye.

@edbeatle:

I'm not quite sure what you're arguing about, but I'll say this:

If you want to define multiversal or high multiversal as being able to destroy multiple universes, then by all means. I have no problem with that. In that case, Zeno is multiversal or whatever you want to call him.

However, if you want to say Zeno can destroy infinite universes, that is not true because there are no feats to prove or suggest that.

@mysticmedivh: How can there even be proof? DBverse is only 12 universe big, people can't even wank properly nowadays. And the NLF attempt was so cringy lol

@josephgomes619:

Unfortunately.

Depends on the definition you use really. If by multiverse you mean either more than one universe or all universes then sure, Zeno has multiversal feats. If by multiversal you mean infinite universes then no, Zeno doesn't have multiversal feats. That isn't too say he can't bust an infinite number of universes. We just have no proof that he can.

Nope

This episode confirms nothing

It just shows Zeno destroying a universe. Even Monarch did it. Lol, erasing 6 universes from existence is better feat.

@apex_pretador: So you are gonna just ignore the fact that an insider , herms , confirmed and stick to what you believe ?

Pretty much states how "open minded" you are

@apex_pretador: I agree.

He's neither Omniversal or Omnipotent, but, as mentioned, incredibly powerful. He wiped out all twelve universes and the timelines with it and for some reason the feat is still being questioned and underestimated.

He destroyed 12

@zzagirl: its called hating

Massive multiversal

if hating is being analytical then so be it, a lot of people are not clouded with nostalgia glasses anyway.

@apex_pretador: U r correct

Here's Herms98 qutoes He confirmed it.That it's a universal destruction

https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/800256902084980737

Herms is a translator. So?

And Zeno destroyed a universe, nothing more in this episode.

@galactic_1000: He just said yes ... yet previously [and please refer to kazenshuu, DBZF , and even Geekdom101] he siad he destroyed all universes and spacetime

@dsb: Just show me the link.

@galactic_1000: link of what ?

@dsb: Link of multiversal destruction.

@galactic_1000: The Tweet

Also watch Geekdom101's latest video review ... he chatted with Herms on Skype , and herms confirmed the multiverse destruction

@dsb: U just give me the same link.

he said Universe/Universes means Universe or universes.