Should SSB2/Royal Blue be the “normal” form in a new series?

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#1 Edited by Scotchbear (2282 posts) - - Show Bio

Just like ssb was in dbs.

Would you like SSB2 to be the new ssb in a new db series?

It kind of cuts the power creep a little bit.

UI can show up in a huge main bad guy battle.

Since there is confusion. SSB2 is the dark blue form vegeta uses in the ToP

It’s official name is super saiyan blue evolution

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#2 Posted by Omega_kai (3166 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope, I feel they should just stick to one form (SSB) and learn techniques.

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

that would contradict the lore and would be a retcon, since the only reason why super saiyan + God Ki'ed base-form is a thing is because

par example, king kai fist require the body work to multiply for it to multiply the energy usage, kaioken 10 would multiply the body work percentage from 100% to 1000%, that would be impossible and fatal for a human body unless if immortal though even then the body would just keep failing and regenerating in itself,

the reason super saiyan form cannot be used alongside king kai fist is because the body percentage is already over 50.000%, and to an impossible percentage of 400.000% for super saiyan 3, hybriding it with king kai fist would be a death wish,

as for the reason those points are mentioned, is because God ki doesn't add stress or overwork to the body, it simply pressure the energy to not leak, thus being hybridable with super saiyan, though multiplying that would break the God ki mode as the energy would leak thus revert back to ki.

it simply is not possible based in the current lore as it would require a retcon, which would be poor writing honestly, it better not to, there is already Super saiyan God ritual mode.

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#4 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

that would contradict the lore and would be a retcon, since the only reason why super saiyan + God Ki'ed base-form is a thing is because

par example, king kai fist require the body work to multiply for it to multiply the energy usage, kaioken 10 would multiply the body work percentage from 100% to 1000%, that would be impossible and fatal for a human body unless if immortal though even then the body would just keep failing and regenerating in itself,

the reason super saiyan form cannot be used alongside king kai fist is because the body percentage is already over 50.000%, and to an impossible percentage of 400.000% for super saiyan 3, hybriding it with king kai fist would be a death wish,

as for the reason those points are mentioned, is because God ki doesn't add stress or overwork to the body, it simply pressure the energy to not leak, thus being hybridable with super saiyan, though multiplying that would break the God ki mode as the energy would leak thus revert back to ki.

it simply is not possible based in the current lore as it would require a retcon, which would be poor writing honestly, it better not to, there is already Super saiyan God ritual mode.

What? How would it contradict the lore? What does this even mean?

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: maybe specify what the question is?, or rather maybe you are asking what does all of it mean, it means that super saiyan forms already overwork the body, God ki is simply ki that's pressured to not leak, as far as lore is concern, you can't have a body that's overworking ki to pressure ki to not leak as well, though that is an exception for SS since it has a natural mode or what's known as Grade 4 since it doesn't overwork the body as Grade 1 or simply controllable rather than berserker, that's not the scenario for SS2 since it doesn't have a natural mode, which would break The God ki mode and just make it meaningless honestly

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#6 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: maybe specify what the question is?, or rather maybe you are asking what does all of it mean, it means that super saiyan forms already overwork the body, God ki is simply ki that's pressured to not leak, as far as lore is concern, you can't have a body that's overworking ki to pressure ki to not leak as well, though that is an exception for SS since it has a natural mode or what's known as Grade 4 since it doesn't overwork the body as Grade 1 or simply controllable rather than berserker, that's not the scenario for SS2 since it doesn't have a natural mode, which would break The God ki mode and just make it meaningless honestly

How would ssjb2 contradict anything? I'm not even sure if you know what you're talking about right now.

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#7 Posted by Scotchbear (2282 posts) - - Show Bio

@phantomshepherdmanga: SSB2 or super saiyan blue evolution is the dark blue form vegeta used in the tournament.

It’s the next step after ssb, essentially SSB2

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#8 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@scotchbear: no such thing is confirmed though, SSB evolution is simply SSB mastered or SSB with Ultra instinct as far as we know, and like i said, it would be a retcon to use SS2 with God ki since SS2 doesn't have a natural mode like SS1 does

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#9 Edited by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

well, well, mind to clarify how God ki would work alongside a form that is not yet mastered?, maybe i should use simple terms, Grade 4 stands for master Super saiyan 1, in this state, goku is able to use this form naturally, doesn't drain his ki, and is able to use it as if base-form, that's how he use it alongside God ki, SS2 however does not have a master state, making it impossible to be used alongside God ki that require your ki to be pressured to not leak. maybe you should first know what is being talked about rather than talk about it, maybe.

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#10 Posted by Standardized (1502 posts) - - Show Bio

well, well, mind to clarify how God ki would work alongside a form that is not yet mastered?, maybe i should use simple terms, Grade 4 stands for master Super saiyan 1, in this state, goku is able to use this form naturally, doesn't drain his ki, and is able to use it as if base-form, that's how he use it alongside God ki, SS2 however does not have a master state, making it impossible to be used alongside God ki that require your ki to be pressured to not leak. maybe you should first know what is being talked about rather than talk about it, maybe.

You're literally just rambling on about stuff that has no correlation to the question at hand. And no SSBE is not blue with ultra instinct lmfao.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: it has relevance since i already posted that the show would require a retcon to do that if not then there is no point in talking about and how that is just hypothetical, maybe read all of my posts before you respond to them?, and Yes, it is odd to why Goku hair change to white when he use UIO since the angels have it though again, the angels have white hair, so maybe, and the lords of destruction don't have white hair, does this mean that only a mastered one give a white hair?, and i'm pretty sure SSB evolution was just vegeta using UIO

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@standardized: it has relevance since i already posted that the show would require a retcon to do that if not then there is no point in talking about and how that is just hypothetical, maybe read all of my posts before you respond to them?, and Yes, it is odd to why Goku hair change to white when he use UIO since the angels have it though again, the angels have white hair, so maybe, and the lords of destruction don't have white hair, does this mean that only a mastered one give a white hair?, and i'm pretty sure SSB evolution was just vegeta using UIO

Head canon.

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized: ?, and why it might that be for you who claim shall answer perhaps for such a thing?, his eye did turn gray and he did state that he was seeing Jiren movement with whis stating that vegeta is going at the process as well, that's enough for me to take it as a maybe, other than that, nothing is confirmed, or rather are you speaking of the Gods and the angels thing?, it is confirmed via feat and statement that beerus as a lord of destruction does have a feat and confirmed by whis statement, and whis was already teaching goku UIO at the rof arc, or are you speaking maybe of the the angels white hair theory, you know, it is called a maybe for a reason. wouldn't you say?

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#14 Posted by cromulor (2672 posts) - - Show Bio

That’s kind of a weird question. It’s like you’re asking if SSJ2 should’ve been made the main form for a series haha.

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#15 Posted by JohnCena69swag (4128 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like for it to be Vegeta's main form but not Goku's. Goku has kaioken so this is a good way of keeping them on equal footing.

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#16 Edited by Scotchbear (2282 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: I mean how in dbs you saw Goku and Vegeta use ssb almost the whole series

In a new series what if Goku and Vegeta used the royal blue form vegeta used in the ToP. Would that be a good “go to” form for them?

Because UI would be too op. They’d stomp everyone short of the angels and jiren lol

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#17 Posted by LeonardoTMNT (2818 posts) - - Show Bio

@cromulor: I mean how in dbs you saw Goku and Vegeta use ssb almost the whole series

In a new series what if Goku and Vegeta used the royal blue form vegeta used in the ToP. Would that be a good “go to” form for them?

Because UI would be too op. They’d stomp everyone short of the angels and jiren lol

Vegeta can have royal Blue. Goku already has SSJB Kaio-Ken to equal him. That seems good enough to me. It's due time got his own form to himself. Goku had SSJ3 and Gohan had mystic. Royal Blue should be Vegeta's

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@phantomshepherdmanga said:

well, well, mind to clarify how God ki would work alongside a form that is not yet mastered?, maybe i should use simple terms, Grade 4 stands for master Super saiyan 1, in this state, goku is able to use this form naturally, doesn't drain his ki, and is able to use it as if base-form, that's how he use it alongside God ki, SS2 however does not have a master state, making it impossible to be used alongside God ki that require your ki to be pressured to not leak. maybe you should first know what is being talked about rather than talk about it, maybe.

You're literally just rambling on about stuff that has no correlation to the question at hand. And no SSBE is not blue with ultra instinct lmfao.

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#20 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6142 posts) - - Show Bio

@standardized said:
@phantomshepherdmanga said:

well, well, mind to clarify how God ki would work alongside a form that is not yet mastered?, maybe i should use simple terms, Grade 4 stands for master Super saiyan 1, in this state, goku is able to use this form naturally, doesn't drain his ki, and is able to use it as if base-form, that's how he use it alongside God ki, SS2 however does not have a master state, making it impossible to be used alongside God ki that require your ki to be pressured to not leak. maybe you should first know what is being talked about rather than talk about it, maybe.

You're literally just rambling on about stuff that has no correlation to the question at hand. And no SSBE is not blue with ultra instinct lmfao.

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#21 Edited by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: you know that can be considered a spam, right?

bonus: you can respond like a rational person or never response or spam again which might get you banned

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#22 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6142 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: you know that can be considered a spam, right?

bonus: you can respond like a rational person or never response or spam again which might get you banned

@rukelnikovftw said:
@standardized said:
@phantomshepherdmanga said:

well, well, mind to clarify how God ki would work alongside a form that is not yet mastered?, maybe i should use simple terms, Grade 4 stands for master Super saiyan 1, in this state, goku is able to use this form naturally, doesn't drain his ki, and is able to use it as if base-form, that's how he use it alongside God ki, SS2 however does not have a master state, making it impossible to be used alongside God ki that require your ki to be pressured to not leak. maybe you should first know what is being talked about rather than talk about it, maybe.

You're literally just rambling on about stuff that has no correlation to the question at hand. And no SSBE is not blue with ultra instinct lmfao.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5b2c5d95484dd (275 posts) - - Show Bio

@rukelnikovftw: you chose rather a poor fate for your retainability in comic-vine, don't be surprise once a ban is present

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@rukelnikovftw: Stop spamming. If you don't have something new just let it go

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