How fast are the current toptiers?

In travel speed? MFTL.

Combat speed? Less than 500 times FTL.

Slower than snails

@baph: lol.

Faster than Toriko, slower than Saint Seiya

MFTL+ combat speed and travel speed.

To this day people can’t post FTL speed feats of ssj3 level beings.

Not fast.

@emanresu_20: dont need to.

lets lowball saiyan saga goku to mach 30 and max speed and kaioken times 20x which increases stats linear would make goku mach 600.

now turn him to ssj which is a bigger increase in speed since goku vs frieza proves ssj >>> kaioken times 20.

so ssj gives a balanced increase in every stat.

now the known power levels were 3mill for base goku in namek saga.

and saiyan saga was below 8000 in base without power up(not kaioken).

lets say goku powered up(not kaioken) is actualy mach 30.

in namek vs frieza is 3mill and since goku increases his ki to increase his power level which are basicly the same thing his speed increases with it unless he chooses to balance it diffrently.

so base goku in namek saga is mach 10K atleast.

him going kaioken times 20 makes him undeniably mach 200K.

now thats lowballing on the highest level.

lets say saiyan saga goku was mach 100.

he would be mach 750K atleast on namek with 20x kaioken.

and ssj is a bigger increase and thats still lowballing and you have almost light speed goku pre ssj on namek.

the funny thing is you cant even deny this becouse kaioken is linear.

if another author wrote dragonball and made character threaten the planet and bust moons and lift to fingers to destroy entire citys in the first arc ,we would have seen space fights and ftl shit every chapter afterwards.

dude made base buu saga gohan‘s travel speed equal to Beginning of Z piccolo if this is not enough to tell you that going only by feats in db is stupid than idk what will.

im pretty sure every1 knows this.

really really fast

Been MFTL for awhile. I always come to site to see downplay to funny lmao

They have been MFTL+ for long especially the top echelons. And their combat speed is generally faster than their travel.

Goku has been MHS since he was child. They reached relativistic speeds late DB/early DBZ, lightspeed on namek, FTL in the Android saga, MFTL Boo saga and after

MFTL++++ right now