Dragon Ball Broly Dimension feat

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#1 Posted by emperorthanos- (16386 posts) - - Show Bio

So I was discussing this with some other but I wanted to see what people think about this feat. So during Broly's fight with Gogeta the two of them blast each other with enough power to send themselves into another dimension and then later the two clash with each other and shatter said dimension

Here's the light novel description

Energy containing the might of a different dimension collides between the two. A flash of light surges as a silent explosion expanded. The next instant, Gogeta and Broly found themselves within a dimension of swirling strange lights. The boundary of the dimension could not withstand the energy released by them and got torn apart

So I was wonder what people's thoughts on this feat were, and how they would quantify it. I have seen pretty varied opinions.

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#2 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9416 posts) - - Show Bio

It means they are finally strong enough to take on GT Goku in base form. ;)

After the second time I watched, I thought the dimension was destroyed but that light novel text makes it seem like they were just breaking through dimensional walls during the fight.

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#3 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18332 posts) - - Show Bio

Does the light novel say anything about the clash between Broly and Gogeta that brought them back to Earth?

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#4 Edited by emperorthanos- (16386 posts) - - Show Bio

@majinblackheart said:

It means they are finally strong enough to take on GT Goku in base form. ;)

After the second time I watched, I thought the dimension was destroyed but that light novel text makes it seem like they were just breaking through dimensional walls during the fight.

Buy the novel please. Can get it translated better.

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#5 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9416 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9416 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok it's on the slow boat from Japan I'll let you all know when I get it and translate.

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#7 Posted by emperorthanos- (16386 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok it's on the slow boat from Japan I'll let you all know when I get it and translate.

Thanks mate.

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#8 Posted by Zannrebel (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: A complete translation of the gogeta vs broly is already up on narutoforums.

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#9 Posted by emperorthanos- (16386 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: A complete translation of the gogeta vs broly is already up on narutoforums.

that's the naruto forums one but I don't know how accurate it is.

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#10 Posted by Zannrebel (26 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: MShadows the guy who translated it does understand Japanese if that helps at all.

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#11 Posted by zoldycklogic (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: @emperorthanos-: If the biundaries of said dimension can not withstand their energy. Meaning the whole dimension was destroyed.

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#12 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5637 posts) - - Show Bio

I have no Idea.

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#13 Posted by Scotchbear (2182 posts) - - Show Bio

@thewatcherking: this is what’s important, because the animation when they escape back to earth is different than when they break into the dimension.

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#15 Posted by TheWatcherKing (18332 posts) - - Show Bio

@thewatcherking: this is what’s important, because the animation when they escape back to earth is different than when they break into the dimension.

When ssj Gogeta and ssj Broly clash they obviously didn’t destroy the reality they live in, just the dimensional barrier. The clash that brought them back to earth looks more like the dimension that clashed in as SSB Gogeta and lssj Broly could have been destroyed.

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#16 Posted by Straja (685 posts) - - Show Bio

The real question should be how much energy is enough to destroy dimensional barrier? And also how is their clash comparable to beerus vs goku? In BoG side effects of battle thretaned to destroy universe but in Broly movie they broke dimensional barrier and that is what i do not understand...

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#17 Posted by Lordragoon (147 posts) - - Show Bio

The novel already been translated at narutoforums. It also accepted as well since no one else came to refute the translations. Ssj broly and ssj gogeta can bust dimensions outside of the universe.

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#18 Edited by Devilmenworks (739 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think it is as impressive as some people seem to think it is. The Z Fighters and villains were able to break through dimensions during Fusion Saga (Buu Arc). Super Buu did and later SSJ3 Gotenks broke the dimensional barrier.

The only difference is that the Z Fighters are far more powerful and they should dimension bust more often but don't due to plot reasons or Akira Toriyama forgetting this ability.

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#19 Posted by Lordragoon (147 posts) - - Show Bio

This feat >>> any feat in DBZ. The feat of buu collapsing the universe is not even cannon. Also the feat of gotenks and buu ripping a hole in the dimension doesn't even compares to this since they shattered the dimension at the end of their clash. Shattering a dimension out side of the universe >>> ripping a little whole with vice shout.

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#20 Posted by Lordragoon (147 posts) - - Show Bio

Also Analaza did similar feat compared to gotenks and buu when he literaly ripped a small hole in reality by just punching. Even that feat > better than the buu saga feat.

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#21 Posted by Gaoron (8826 posts) - - Show Bio

Without the size of those dimensions we can't really say. And it's not like it's the first time dimensional stuff like that happened. Toei fell in love with those stuff after Toriyama first shown Buu/Gotenks yelling a dimensional portal, Vegeta destroyed RoSaT dimension twice, GT Goku destroyed dimension, whole deal with Buu crashing alternate dimensions, Goku and Jiren breaking Hit dimension, Anilaza warping space with his punches, Kale and Caulifa destroyed dimension of that chick pride trooper aswell. It happenns all the time but without concrete size those feats are pretty much useless (except as a BFR counter I guess).

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#22 Posted by MajinBlackheart (9416 posts) - - Show Bio

OK, so another translation of what you already posted can be "the boundaries of the dimensions cannot withstand the energy of the two" before they enter the new dimension.

There is mention a few times of "hitting" or "slamming" into the walls and scattering sparks/fragments of energy. Mostly just descriptions of what is happening visually.

It ends by saying when the two clash fists that "something is wrong" with space again and the strange sky disappears and returns to the original scenery of the 'real' world.

I'd say there isn't anything in here to suggest those dimensions were destroyed. In fact, the notion that they were passing through dimensional walls and destroying them as they go would indicate that they destroyed their world, but they didn't and returned to it in the end.

However, it is interesting to note that from what I did read, neither Whis nor Gogeta were trying against Broly, especially when Gogeta went SSB where it said Broly could not even react to him.

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#23 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5637 posts) - - Show Bio

"The boundary of dimension" Yeah It has boundaries and It's finite.No need to make it universal for no reason.

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#24 Posted by Xdragon2002 (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@lordragoon: can you post that translated version here I can’t seem to find it

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#25 Posted by ps4gamerdude (55 posts) - - Show Bio

@emperorthanos-: @emperorthanos-: If the biundaries of said dimension can not withstand their energy. Meaning the whole dimension was destroyed.

@straja said:

The real question should be how much energy is enough to destroy dimensional barrier? And also how is their clash comparable to beerus vs goku? In BoG side effects of battle thretaned to destroy universe but in Broly movie they broke dimensional barrier and that is what i do not understand...

In this case, it is breaking a dimensional wall/barrier instead of the place itself. We don't know how big it is. A universe and an alternate dimension could be two totally different things, depending on context. In this case, it isn't a universe in and of itself, but just an empty plane of existence. In GT (don't get started on its canonicity) Goku busted a dimension wall to escape from Sugoroku Space (albeit it was becoming unstable and on the verge of collapse).

Anyway, I wouldn't place them on dimensional tier or dimension busting. But shattering a dimensional wall is still impressive. It's something rarely done in the series.

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#26 Posted by zoldycklogic (1094 posts) - - Show Bio

In this case, it is breaking a dimensional wall/barrier instead of the place itself. We don't know how big it is. A universe and an alternate dimension could be two totally different things, depending on context. In this case, it isn't a universe in and of itself, but just an empty plane of existence. In GT (don't get started on its canonicity) Goku busted a dimension wall to escape from Sugoroku Space (albeit it was becoming unstable and on the verge of collapse).

Anyway, I wouldn't place them on dimensional tier or dimension busting. But shattering a dimensional wall is still impressive. It's something rarely done in the series.

I beg to differ. As stated in many other threads and witnessed by fans several times throughout the show. Dimensional wall breaking was achieved first by Super Buu in DBZ and the feat was replicated by Gotenks. Then the anime version of Buuhan was threatening to destroy the universe by collapsing other dimensions on it.

In Super, Vegeta Manage to force his way out of hyperbolic time chamber twice, and he managed to free himself after being trapped in the " Mafuba Jar'' by frost in the tournament of power.

I would not classify what Gogeta and Broly did as impressive after replicating feats previously achieved by weaker characters. Further proving that Goku's and Beerus' shockwaves feat should be considered an outlier.

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