@standardized:
He's not capable of contending though. Jiren simply outclasses him in everything.
Him blocking and evading Jiren's assault is the literal evidence to prove that he can contend. What more evidence do you need?
Just because Jiren outclasses him in everything doesn't prove that Hit cannot contend. For all we know Jiren might only be slightly better, still dosen't change that he's better in everything but it certainly shows that his opponent can not only contend, but give him hell.
Well we literally see Jiren reacting to Hits time skip and it was never stated Jiren had knowledge on it.
Hit was famed universally for his expertise, that's why U11 initially picked Dyspo to face him and it's reasonable to deduce that by extension, Jiren has knowledge of it.
Hit could never kill Jiren he is simply outclassed like I previously said.
He's outclassed when restrained, and battle damaged.
Unrestrained and completely fresh? It's debatable.
Again, kindly address whether Jiren has any healing or regenerative abilities, because if he dosen't, then just concede that Hit's unrestrained killing abilities would murder him like any mortal being. Power isn't a factor when resisting a heart striking attack.
Hit's time skip is useless,
It certainly isn't if Hit managed to adapt and Time Skip to land a point blank attack on him.
Besides, Jiren has precognitive abilities, he was able to perceive the movements of the blocks and determined that it wouldn't hit him. That is why he was able to counter Time Skip. Not his power.
you fail to realize that Jiren also wasn't trying to kill hit.
So? Jiren dosen't become stronger if he's determined to kill. When Jiren tried to kill the spectators during his fight with MUI Goku, his attack didn't get any more potent.
This rule only applies to Hit.
Hit literally states "that the moment I couldn't end it in one hit my loss was confirmed"
And what does it prove, exactly? It only shows that his gamble failed and that's all.
Vegeta rage boost came from him about to let bulma, trunks, bulla, and cabba down and break his "promise"
Yes, and that boost would totally help him in any situation in battle who's name is not God of Destruction Toppo, when U6 isn't destroyed and when his universe is not at stake.
Oh wait.
You didn't debunk anything tho. Toppo was ko'ed while vegeta was still up is that not a win?
Read this again:
Vegeta was drained and was clearly severely wounded afterwards. Toppo was only knocked out for a few seconds before regaining composure and appeared to be in a better shape than Vegeta on the bench.
Log in to comment