Android 17 is a horrible character

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I legitimately don't get the love for him. What did he even do??

-Show up

-Act cocky

-Fight piccolo

-Get absorbed

-Become a park ranger

That's it. His entire ordeal in super was horrendous and there is no way on earth to justify his growth.

This guy lived on an island fighting poachers and grew to SSBKiokenx20 level.

Freiza is somewhat understandable as Freiza's race us shown to be naturally strong only for Freiza to then go and train hard.

Let 17 train with proper fighters and by that logic he should be as whis.

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No u.

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@hudyman: 17 is fine as a character, not the greatest, but decent. Are we still really complaining about his power increase? Nothing compares to new Broly, if you want to go and complain about a BS power up then that's your guy. Broly went from Namek saga tier level at best and surpassed all of Z and SSJB level in just minutes.

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ssbkkx20 level? The hell is you smoking.

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@standardized: 17 didn't train before the tournament.

He fought awakened jiren and made him kneel until MUI goku came. That means he was easily above kkx20

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#6  Edited By camilopezo

@hudyman: He was tired by UI Goku.

Also, Power increase =/= Personality.

If someone has a bad personality, it's his sister.

-She refused to fight if there was no money involved. (Even when the universe was in danger)

-Insults her husband for being eliminated first, even when he was eliminated for helping her.

-Act as if sacrificing a cruise, to save 7 universes was a great sacrifice.

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17 I don’t like but Super 17 was epic.

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#8  Edited By LeonardoTMNT

@hudyman said:

@standardized: 17 didn't train before the tournament.

He fought awakened jiren and made him kneel until MUI goku came. That means he was easily above kkx20

17 was nowhere near kkx20 Goku. And 17 never made a non weakened Jiren kneel. What fan fiction were you reading? Power wise by tournaments end it was clearly Goku>>Vegeta>>>Frieza>=17.

I think it's clear you're just salty because someone other than one of the main characters got a little shine, pretty clear, lol

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@hudyman: 17 was losing to base Toppo, so he is at best SSB level, but yeah, even that's BS. In the manga he only actually fought ssj3 Goku, stalemated Dyspo off screen, and tried to fight Jiren but got beat up in seconds.

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#10  Edited By Eragale

@camilopezo said:

@hudyman: He was tired by UI Goku.

Also, Power increase =/= Personality.

If someone has a bad personality, it's his sister.

-She refused to fight if there was no money involved. (Even when the universe was in danger)

-Insults her husband for being eliminated first, even when he was eliminated for helping her.

-Act as if sacrificing a cruise, to save 7 universes was a great sacrifice.

Being " tired " does NOT affect power output - it affects stamina

Even during the fight between SSJ3 Goku vs. Kid Buu … Goku was tired constantly yet was still able to destroy kid buu ( just no permanently until after Genki-dama )

The Timestamp below justifies that too

https://youtu.be/c5J6kr-4jZM?t=684

@hudyman I agree m8. And so far, your posts are looking good too :3

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@hudyman: 17 is fine as a character, not the greatest, but decent. Are we still really complaining about his power increase? Nothing compares to new Broly, if you want to go and complain about a BS power up then that's your guy. Broly went from Namek saga tier level at best and surpassed all of Z and SSJB level in just minutes.

Brolys power was explained and he also watched Paragus die

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@hudyman said:

@standardized: 17 didn't train before the tournament.

He fought awakened jiren and made him kneel until MUI goku came. That means he was easily above kkx20

I thought it was stated that he was training ever since the cell saga?

The only time he made jiren 'kneel' was after jiren lost to MUI goku and was nowhere near his original power.

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@kgb725: How does "harnessing" the power of the great ape give him the ever rising ki? Doesnt make sense.

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