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Dick Grayson
Character » Dick Grayson appears in 9479 issues.
As the first Robin, Dick Grayson was the most famous sidekick in comic book history. As he ventured forth on his own, he formed the Teen Titans and became their leader. When the boy became a man, he became the independent hero known as Nightwing.
Dick Grayson's Post-FOREVER EVIL Fate Has Been Revealed
1. Hey, Bleedingcool was actually right for once.
2. The fact that Dick is using a gun makes me want to strangle someone at DC Editorial. They better at least use this as a catalyst for Dick and Jason to patch things up. Jason could even train Dick how to use guns.
3. Return of Spyral. Sweet. Wonder if we'll see more Kathy Kane.
4. Tim Seeley. Awesome.
5. G on the chest is so cheesy...I love it.
6. Who the hell's the blonde in the Batsgiving teaser then!?
I hope he's still closely connected to the Batfamily, yet has his book remain independent from events and stuff. That was what caused Kyle Higgins to shrink his run down and take out some of the most interesting aspects.
Does anybody else think it's going to be absolutely hilarious seeing a character with (presumably) next to no training in the usage of firearms (besides counteracting them) utilizing them? I feel like this can only end well.
Anyway, I've never been a huge Nightwing/Dick Grayson fan, so I don't have too much to comment on here. For those who are fans of the character, I hope this does well both in the growth and development of the character and in sales.
Though some of the vehemence towards just the very idea here is somewhat frightening.
To the people complaining, why? Every time the big two take a chance on a new idea you guys complain and then complain the next week that they're doing the same old schtick. At least this is something new and interesting
This, and Winter Soldier was an assassin not a spy.......
This concept is an old schtick, It's Winter Solider who faked his death during a large event and became more of a spy in his solo series meets Nick Fury via 1968. So what is new and interesting to DC and it's current fan base is something taken from Marvel's recent past and something taken from there nostalgia.
Well, to half-adopt the tone of this, and almost every new announcement on this site:
I am looking forward to it, it's bound to be better than any of the other New 52 books!
Not gonna lie, it's weird, but I don't hate the idea. I love, love, love, Seeley's Hack/Slash. And I like a good espionage story. Count me in.
And, in other news, DC has announced the new series "West", in which fan-favorite character Wally West makes his triumphant return! Only this time, he's a fighter pilot who works for the KGB!
But, seriously, this looks like it could be cool. I'll definitely be giving this a shot.
or a random black guy
Why does having a public ID mean he can't be Nightwing? It works for Captain America and Iron Man.
Because it would fuck up batman's life.
Not really. If Oliver Queen's identity were exposed in the GL/GA days, that wouldn't affect GL.
In other news, Bucky Barnes fakes his death, becomes a circus acrobat, and wages war on street crime.
I laughed so hard my 120 lb dog was concerned.
Ya gotta admit its pretty cool they gor an ex CIA agent help writing it that scores points in my book
Oh and to Gun complainers its just cover art it doesn't mean anything we know come on stop looking through the angry lenses and even if he uses the gun it will probably be rubber bullets
And its not like Buckys the first Super Spy in the world
I'm on board with this because it gives more of one of the weirder, cooler ideas in Morrison's Batman run. Plus, the creative team is very good, and I know he'll be back as Nightwing before too long.
I don't see why everyone keeps comparing him to Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier was brain washed and became a villain, he didn't plan to fake his death, his identity was never exposed to all his rogues. Nightwing is just faking his death to the world so all his rogues will get off his back and joining a secret agency because if he stays with the Batfamily they will be targeted more than what they already have been.
Hmm, this is interesting, not sure how I feel about it yet. Waiting to see how he actually utilizes firearms.
They should have just killed him if this is what they where planing... :(
(dagmar_merrill said it first but at least half of us most be thinking it)
So Winter Soldier has a monopoly over espionage stories now? I guess there's no such thing as Nemesis,Steve Trevor etc but heh fanboys bitching and moaning isn't new.
New direction for Dick CHECK
Seeley CHECK
I'm on board.
@gustavoburciaga1: During Feat Itself Bucky who was then Captain America was killed off. Later we learned he faked his death and became the Winter Solider again yet the world thought he was dead only Black Widow and Nick Fury knew he was alive. He had a solo book a few years ago that was espionage focused. Does that not sound very familiar to this Grayson book?
First thought, WTF!? Better processed thought, I'll hold final judgment until I actually read an issue. It just all seems so weird, even for New 52 DC.
Now, how long until we get a Secret Justice League? And two, who will be the new Nightwing in the supposed Nightwing and Bluebird book?
Should've had him become Red Hood and had Jason become Agent of Spyral.
Why does having a public ID mean he can't be Nightwing? It works for Captain America and Iron Man.
Because it would fuck up batman's life.
No it wouldn't. Bruce Wayne is publicly known as financing Batman and Batman Inc, which would've included Nightwing. This means nothing other than one person financed by Bruce Wayne was unmasked. Considering the distance put between himself and the identity of Batman via coming out as the one paying for Batman and the staged rescue of himself in Year Zero, there's plenty of wiggle room there to keep people from eying Bruce as Batman.
For all those saying Dick Grayson doesn't know how to use a firearm, read Robin: Year One. Bruce trained all the Robins to be proficient in firearms from day one. I don't understand the negativity. Dick has always been an ever evolving character. Read the book before you hate or love it.
So Winter Soldier has a monopoly over espionage stories now? I guess there's no such thing as Nemesis,Steve Trevor etc but heh fanboys bitching and moaning isn't new.
New direction for Dick CHECK
Seeley CHECK
I'm on board.
STOP BEING LOGICAL! We are comic book fans, it is stated in the handbook, that we have to b*tch and moan about news prematurely. It is also stated that we have to judge a book harshly by its cover and premise, thirdly, we must be paradoxical. We have to complain about stories being the same and repetative, yet still rage when the status quo is changed, so it has been written, so we must comply.
Hey, I like it. Plus Spyral's coming back so that's a plus for us Batman Inc. fans
Indeed
@ares94 Thank you!!!!!!! this whole I'm like they use guns and don't kill people in person of interest
Sigh... DC... sigh...
Spending time building up Nightwing and his Rogues gallery, showing off all his awesomeness without Batman reliance...
Then make him not like that at all anymore...
Oh, and everything is better with guns *rolls eyes*
To the people complaining, why? Every time the big two take a chance on a new idea you guys complain and then complain the next week that they're doing the same old schtick. At least this is something new and interesting
This, and Winter Soldier was an assassin not a spy.......
Wasan assassin. Now he's a spy. During his previous series he was a spy. During most upcoming series he will most likely be a spy.
@papinacho: Seriously, my first thought after I read the article.
I just realized, is that dick Grayson with a gun?! A gun?!? Is he killing people now? Bruce raised him better than that! I don't care he's no longer Nightwing, he was trained to do things without a gun. Thank you for destroying a other character, Geoff Johns.
what is this? i loved dick he was is my favorite batmanfamily character but im not sure ill be able to continue following him.
I don't see why everyone keeps comparing him to Winter Soldier. Winter Soldier was brain washed and became a villain, he didn't plan to fake his death, his identity was never exposed to all his rogues. Nightwing is just faking his death to the world so all his rogues will get off his back and joining a secret agency because if he stays with the Batfamily they will be targeted more than what they already have been.
Actually, Bucky did fake his death as Captain America during the Fear Itself storyline since he was outed as being the Winter Soldier.
Sigh... DC... sigh...
Spending time building up Nightwing and his Rogues gallery, showing off all his awesomeness without Batman reliance...
Then make him not like that at all anymore...
Oh, and everything is better with guns *rolls eyes*
He can still have his own rogues gallery. I honestly don't understand why he can't.
@inkink: Not really. Winter Soldier just straight out became the enemy. We're not even sure what Actions Dick is going to take. For all we know he won't even kill anyone.
@hushofthewind: eh not really bucky was hunting down sleeper agent wasn't he. grayson well be undercover working for spyral(hydra).also faking there own death is the only common thing but where the story go from there is way differnt
I just realized, is that dick Grayson with a gun?! A gun?!? Is he killing people now? Bruce raised him better than that! I don't care he's no longer Nightwing, he was trained to do things without a gun. Thank you for destroying a other character, Geoff Johns.
I'm not gonna judge a book by its cover, especially a DC cover, which are notorious for being misleading, I can't see Dick using a gun at all. He probably just carries it for show, or even if he does use it, it's probably just to incapacitate. Like Book, from Firefly.
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