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    First teaser for the CW's Batwoman.

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    I'm glad Legends is going back to historical figures again

    The Monitor appearance was classic Legends

    The Zari twist was some good time travel shenanigans and it's been a while since we had a good one. Wonder if she'll be back next season

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    Was the monitor invisible to the legends and everyone else in the last scene ?

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    @eobard21 said:

    Was the monitor invisible to the legends and everyone else in the last scene ?

    No, he was just watching from the shadows. No need to make his presence known. He was just judging them and had a Tony Stark meets the Guardians in IW moment

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    Because moving forward, she's a bit of an internet celebrity of some sort. It's the girl who tamed dragons.

    Legends Showrunner

    New Zari is the mother of dragons next season, confirmed.

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    @saintwildcard: I see thanks, and it was funny as hell seeing him eating popcorns while watchting them

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    @eobard21 said:

    Was the monitor invisible to the legends and everyone else in the last scene ?

    Monitor was in the legends final scene? Oh shit

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    How did the Arrowverse season rank this year?

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    @the_kidd said:

    How did the Arrowverse season rank this year?

    I haven't seen Flash (maybe I will) and I just can't with Arrow. Haven't finished Black Lightning, but I liked what I saw. I love Legends, but I wish they could recapture that S2 balance. Nothing but gold in that season and it has some of my favorite episodes of the entire series (I may just write a blog about my top 10). S3 had some good ones, but S4 probably would have a handful at best. The ending was also kinda lame. I hope they get better in S5, they plan on getting back to their historical roots, but it honestly feels like they've burned through all their good storylines and character arcs in S2. I hope it picks up, cus if it doesn't, next season could be my last

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    @the_kidd said:

    How did the Arrowverse season rank this year?

    I haven't seen Flash (maybe I will) and I just can't with Arrow. Haven't finished Black Lightning, but I liked what I saw. I love Legends, but I wish they could recapture that S2 balance. Nothing but gold in that season and it has some of my favorite episodes of the entire series (I may just write a blog about my top 10). S3 had some good ones, but S4 probably would have a handful at best. The ending was also kinda lame. I hope they get better in S5, they plan on getting back to their historical roots, but it honestly feels like they've burned through all their good storylines and character arcs in S2. I hope it picks up, cus if it doesn't, next season could be my last

    For 2 seasons in a row I couldn't make it to the end of Flash. Legends kind of disappointed me this season, wasnt too keen on the side characters given focus(Ava, Gary, Mona, Nate's Dad) and the humor this year was nauseating. Was plenty surprise with the few Supergirl episodes I saw and from sound of things, they broke The Arrowverse S4 Curse.

    I think after Arrow finale season & COIE I'm done with the Arrowverse.

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    #316  Edited By mrmonster

    @the_kidd said:

    How did the Arrowverse season rank this year?

    I'd say pretty low. The Flash had by far it's worst season ever, and Arrow it's second worst. It's still definitively above the season 4 garbage, but still disappointing from a show that used to be so great.

    I've heard Supergirl and Legends actually had a good seasons though. I wouldn't know since I don't watch those shows anymore, but good for anyone who does.

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    @the_kidd said:
    @saintwildcard said:
    @the_kidd said:

    How did the Arrowverse season rank this year?

    I haven't seen Flash (maybe I will) and I just can't with Arrow. Haven't finished Black Lightning, but I liked what I saw. I love Legends, but I wish they could recapture that S2 balance. Nothing but gold in that season and it has some of my favorite episodes of the entire series (I may just write a blog about my top 10). S3 had some good ones, but S4 probably would have a handful at best. The ending was also kinda lame. I hope they get better in S5, they plan on getting back to their historical roots, but it honestly feels like they've burned through all their good storylines and character arcs in S2. I hope it picks up, cus if it doesn't, next season could be my last

    For 2 seasons in a row I couldn't make it to the end of Flash. Legends kind of disappointed me this season, wasnt too keen on the side characters given focus(Ava, Gary, Mona, Nate's Dad) and the humor this year was nauseating. Was plenty surprise with the few Supergirl episodes I saw and from sound of things, they broke The Arrowverse S4 Curse.

    I think after Arrow finale season & COIE I'm done with the Arrowverse.

    Same. Arrow is the only CW-DC show I still watch, and that Batwoman trailer pretty much killed any interest I had in it.

    On the plus side, what could be a better stopping point than something as epic as Crisis on Infinite Earths?

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    #318  Edited By SaintWildcard

    @eobard21: @tonymartial: @the_kidd:

    Recently I did a count of episodes of each Legends season that were good (mainly 2 and 3) to compare it to 4. I'll probably do a review soon, but there is an abbreviated version of that. S4 is probably barely above S1 of Legends. S1 had some arcs and had an epic, albeit convoluted , finale. But the characters were melodramatic and it didn't really get a sense of what it wanted to be till the Western episode, but they didn't apply that formula till S2. Now, this is a rough and mostly subjective count, but both 2 and 3 had 10+ episodes that I can look to and enjoy. S2 has like one more than S3, and you have to take into account that S3 had one more episode. S2 was perfection, both in tone, comedy and arcs. S3 lacked the arc count of S2, a good villain and Vixen wore here welcome (but Zari balanced that ding out and Wally's redemption did too). I struggle to think of a negative for S2, outside of that the Doomworld was only an episode, and I wanted to see more of it.

    Disclaimer- I wanna clarify that just cus an episode isn't counted into the "good episode" list, doesn't mean the rest were bad, it's just that they were average episodes. "Good Episodes" for me have to be memorable.

    But how about S4? What's it's good episode count.... like 5... maybe? Which doesn't even include the finale. Outside of the cool Zari twist, it was probably less enjoyable than the *pukes in mouth* S1 finale. Now, this season is plum out of arcs for most of its crew, and the only one with a true arc this season was John. The rest were either relationships and Nate's strife with his father. It's still up to the writers to give their characters shit to do, but I do sympathize with the writing staff. I thought having John one would make the show have to meet in the middle and have the comedy of S3. be reeled back a bit to include the character of John, and it did.... for a minute. It just kinda falls apart later on. They handled him well at the start, but the zanyness won out.

    This has gone on lone enough, and there will be a more official one down the line. I just wanna wrap this up by saying, I'm interested to see where we go from here. the Zari stuff should be interesting and the return to historical figures (and I believe they said time pieces) is a must. I don't know if I think the show ill ever recapture that magic of S2. It seems they keep going further and further into the wackyness. Maybe I'll accept it next season, and I'm hoping I will, we'll see.

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    It has begun. Batwoman is already planning on taking a popular Batman story and putting it into it's show. It's going to make Hush have a connection to Kate.

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    @the_kidd: I saw and it sucks. Ray was the heart of that team (not freaking Vixen as he once said). If anyone should have left it should have been Mick. I loved him in S2, but since then they have no idea what to do with him.

    As for them not having a say, really odd and I wonder why? Maybe it's a money thing?I have no problem with the show having a revolving cast, I just hope they know what they're doing. Not gonna miss Mona if she does leave.

    Jesus! That scene actually has him competent and not over the top cheesy Superman. I thought it was just gonna be a reference/dig to the JL Flash/Superman race, but it was actually much better than that. If only he was portrayed like that the entire time.

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    #322  Edited By SaintWildcard

    New Flash Suit

    I'm glad the Chin guard is back, because he looked fat without it in some shots. The suit is also finally taking inspiration from the New 52 version. I also just found out that Cisco isn't leaving the show, which I thought for months he was, which is why he took away his powers.

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    Jonah Hex will be in Crisis

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    Judging from some interviews, some people seem to think that the Legends writers may have realized they kinda blew it with the last season. Depending on how you read it, people point out that they promised us a spooky seasons, but it leaned way too light and the writer acknowledged they couldn't help themselves.

    They state that next season is going to be a return to form, with them going back to fixing history, but this time stopping some of the worst criminals of history. I do hope S5 improves, because S4 was a major let down in many ways.

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    New Flash Suit

    I'm glad the Chin guard is back, because he looked fat without it in some shots. The suit is also finally taking inspiration from the New 52 version. I also just found out that Cisco isn't leaving the show, which I thought for months he was, which is why he took away his powers.

    An improvement, all the new Arrowverse suits look solid this year. Personally I don't mind if Cicso actor leaves, the character have been pretty irrelevant and disappointing the last couple seasons.

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    @the_kidd: the SUpergirl one is great... if only her show wasn't such shite. I actually watched S4 just to see how they handle Lex... it was a hard watch for the most part.

    As for Cisco, I just thought it was odd he was leaving before Crisis, which is going to be a massive freaking event. Seems like a dumb career move. Maybe he'll die, or Jimmy since he is leaving the show. Good riddance though. Their take on Jimmy is atrocious

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    @saintwildcard: The Supergirl suit is awesome, has a MoS vibe to it. Didn't watch S4 but from I heard their Lex was good.

    Wouldn't mind if Cisco became a part timer who pops in now and then.

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    Midnight looks terryfying. Love that 💕💕💕💕

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    I'm worried about the direction the shows will take after Arrow ends.

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    @paperbag said:

    I'm worried about the direction the shows will take after Arrow ends.

    how do you mean? Arrow never really affected the other shows as much.

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    @saintwildcard: It was always the emotional anchor for the entire universe though, they way I saw it, I'm afraid after it's over they'll all turn into a Port man's Flash or Supergirl. Even Legends has lost its charm from S2, and Batwoman doesn't look too inspiring.

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    Thea is returning for the final season of Arrow. That'll be good, even though I'd put money on her dying (and for good this time).

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    Tom Welling's Superman is gonna be in Crisis. I'm hyped for this. I'd be more hyped if I wasn't currently on season 4 of Smallville, but still, I'm hyped.

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    @mrmonster: BRUH OMGOSH!!!! IM STOKED! Also it only gets better after Smallville season 4. Season 4 is probably the worst but the finale is awesome!

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    WELLING SUPES RETURNS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😍😍😍😎😎😎😎

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    Legends missed a real chance to have the catalyst for next season be the Crisis. Their season I believe starts with their Crisis tie in. Could have been cool to see how the merge (if there is one), affect their universe. Maybe we get to see them meet young Superman

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    Unfortunately, Smallville's Lex Luthor will not be returning.

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    It's been two seasons since I ever actually watched an Arrow episode and looked forward to the next one. I skipped the last two seasons, but I knew I had no choice to watch this last one since they stated it was going to be tied to Crisis... and I gotta say it was a damn good episode to come back to.

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    Hot damn, Arrow's season 8 premiere was awesome. Possibly the best season premiere the show has ever had. It did help that they have a Crisis to setup, but still, great way to start the final season.

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    Although, the one thing I hate is that Oliver is still doubting his legacy. He's saved the entire world on several occasions but is still doubting himself because of the possibility that this mom would still be alive.

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    Season 8's 2nd episode, while not as good as the premiere, continued to showcase Arrow at its best. Arrow is shaping up to have the great final season it deserves.

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    #346  Edited By mrmonster

    I wonder if Jessie Quick and/or Harry died when Earth 2 was destroyed?

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    Sooo after Episode 2:

    Katana > China White > Oliver

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    I'm finding it hard to express just how excited I am for Crisis on Infinite Earths.

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    #349 the_stegman  Moderator

    Man...that finale of Arrow tugged at my heartstrings. What a ride.

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    I was bored for that finale until John got the ring.

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